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"I'm not really interested, I only care that the movie does its job for the 2 hours we will share, and that is to entertain me." | |||
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"I'm not really interested, I only care that the movie does its job for the 2 hours we will share, and that is to entertain me." Im hopeful it will be a great movie. | |||
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"Ffs i was in a good mood until now grrrrr huuuuuuuulk smaaaaaaaash" Roll over, let me tickle your belly. Sun's getting real low big guy | |||
"Dont mind equality but things are getting just plain stupid " I agree that there has been a political agenda going on for a while now. Im no mangina. This series in particular has been growing stale for years | |||
"Ffs i was in a good mood until now grrrrr huuuuuuuulk smaaaaaaaash Roll over, let me tickle your belly. Sun's getting real low big guy " | |||
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"Would be better if she was a different double 0, but it has got the Internet in a twist has it made to look like she be by the next James bond, and it's like wait a min James bond was written has a white male. But to have a female agent of a different number black or white would be intresting in fact if they did it has a spin off set of films with in the same universe has bond. We have never seen a female action hero yet. " There were talks of doing one a spin off for jinx halle berry would have been great but u dont mess with the msn who opened the olympics | |||
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"I will be angry i have every right to be this is just a bandwaggon bullshit thing first dr who now 007 avengers did it with the girls brigade scene whats next remake queen elizabeth films with a man in drag this is all kinds of bolox i hope Barbara broccoli chkes on her broccoli" | |||
"Woke?" It's a youth thing! My staff tried to educate me in it. Basically, socially aware from what I could gather. | |||
"Bring on Alan in wonderland. " Things are getting worse. It's even affected my favourite band, now known as Personfred Person's Earth Band. | |||
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"Did somebody call?..." Lol!!!! | |||
"I will be angry i have every right to be this is just a bandwaggon bullshit thing first dr who now 007 avengers did it with the girls brigade scene whats next remake queen elizabeth films with a man in drag this is all kinds of bolox i hope Barbara broccoli chkes on her broccoli" Aww bless, do you need your safe space snowflake? | |||
"I will be angry i have every right to be this is just a bandwaggon bullshit thing first dr who now 007 avengers did it with the girls brigade scene whats next remake queen elizabeth films with a man in drag this is all kinds of bolox i hope Barbara broccoli chkes on her broccoli Aww bless, do you need your safe space snowflake?" snowflake first time iv ever been called that hahaha wow my 3yr old has better insults to the dog | |||
"But doesn’t this one start off with James Bond retired, and this new actress just taking over his now vacant mi6 number? " Yes, they did the smart thing in that they created a new character instead of changing the race/gender/sex/sexuality of the main character,anenfit it in to the already existing lore and story. However the way they did it (making her 007) it is still riding on the coat tails of James bond instead of the character being allowed to shine on their own. A better way would have been for her to be a trainee/rookie (not 007) and then go in to her own spin off movies set on the same world. Very few people actually care on who the lead character is so long as they are well written and the story is solid. The issue people have is changing a well established character to fit in with a new agenda. | |||
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"Im sure it'll be as popular as women's football. " never watched it was it good? | |||
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"Im sure it'll be as popular as women's football. " That's just people being stubborn as fuck though. Stuck in their ways and unable to accept something. Women's football is not an agenda (though some use it to further their own). They are very talented sports women who to be honest deserve just as much praise and admiration as their male counterparts. | |||
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"I honestly can’t believe how some people are so resistant to change. And it’s kind of weird that someone would call it “PC” or whatever wording. It’s not politically correct to have a woman, or a black person or whatever else in a movie. That’s just life. That’s just normal. It’s not a big deal. I find it odd that it would get someone worked up. James Bond is shit anyway." The vast majority of people are not against a woman or any race being the lead in a movie. It's the simple bullshit of changing a well established character to fit an agenda for not reason other than to ride the coat tails of tbe big branded name. Make a well written movie plot, write the main character as an original character and written well and very few will complain that the character is a black woman with a prosthetic leg. Just stop changing well established characters in the name of change. | |||
"I honestly can’t believe how some people are so resistant to change. And it’s kind of weird that someone would call it “PC” or whatever wording. It’s not politically correct to have a woman, or a black person or whatever else in a movie. That’s just life. That’s just normal. It’s not a big deal. I find it odd that it would get someone worked up. James Bond is shit anyway. The vast majority of people are not against a woman or any race being the lead in a movie. It's the simple bullshit of changing a well established character to fit an agenda for not reason other than to ride the coat tails of tbe big branded name. Make a well written movie plot, write the main character as an original character and written well and very few will complain that the character is a black woman with a prosthetic leg. Just stop changing well established characters in the name of change. " Agree . Although also agree James Bond films are crap too | |||
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"Isn't it about time James bond was biologically female, but identified as Male, married to a gender fluid pansexual?! I mean come on! It's 2019!" fuck no | |||
"Problem I have is there's loads of female secret agents films already. So there's no need to do it. I mean look at Ghostbusters.Terminator.Captain Marvel. turning male lead films in female. Now Thor is female. So is John Wick or Johnny English next. And as for Dr Who they made a bad guy weak by putting a chip into him. Because that was the only way they could think of why he was weaker than her. (Trying to keep this bit clean)" There are lots of women in the world already so why do you dress as one? Is it really such a big thing that James Bond’s code number is going to be taken by a woman? | |||
"Problem I have is there's loads of female secret agents films already. So there's no need to do it. I mean look at Ghostbusters.Terminator.Captain Marvel. turning male lead films in female. Now Thor is female. So is John Wick or Johnny English next. And as for Dr Who they made a bad guy weak by putting a chip into him. Because that was the only way they could think of why he was weaker than her. (Trying to keep this bit clean) There are lots of women in the world already so why do you dress as one? Is it really such a big thing that James Bond’s code number is going to be taken by a woman?" I was worried when i read that Thor was going to be played by a woman, but when i saw it was Natalie Portman i thought well, at least she's fit. | |||
"I honestly can’t believe how some people are so resistant to change. And it’s kind of weird that someone would call it “PC” or whatever wording. It’s not politically correct to have a woman, or a black person or whatever else in a movie. That’s just life. That’s just normal. It’s not a big deal. I find it odd that it would get someone worked up. James Bond is shit anyway. The vast majority of people are not against a woman or any race being the lead in a movie. It's the simple bullshit of changing a well established character to fit an agenda for not reason other than to ride the coat tails of tbe big branded name. Make a well written movie plot, write the main character as an original character and written well and very few will complain that the character is a black woman with a prosthetic leg. Just stop changing well established characters in the name of change. " 1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. | |||
"Woke? It's a youth thing! My staff tried to educate me in it. Basically, socially aware from what I could gather. " I think it's more than just socially aware. You need to virtue signal your social awareness, loudly band repetitively | |||
"I honestly can’t believe how some people are so resistant to change. And it’s kind of weird that someone would call it “PC” or whatever wording. It’s not politically correct to have a woman, or a black person or whatever else in a movie. That’s just life. That’s just normal. It’s not a big deal. I find it odd that it would get someone worked up. James Bond is shit anyway. The vast majority of people are not against a woman or any race being the lead in a movie. It's the simple bullshit of changing a well established character to fit an agenda for not reason other than to ride the coat tails of tbe big branded name. Make a well written movie plot, write the main character as an original character and written well and very few will complain that the character is a black woman with a prosthetic leg. Just stop changing well established characters in the name of change. 1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. " at the minute the agenda is overpromoting female lead characters cos its trendy | |||
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"I honestly can’t believe how some people are so resistant to change. And it’s kind of weird that someone would call it “PC” or whatever wording. It’s not politically correct to have a woman, or a black person or whatever else in a movie. That’s just life. That’s just normal. It’s not a big deal. I find it odd that it would get someone worked up. James Bond is shit anyway. The vast majority of people are not against a woman or any race being the lead in a movie. It's the simple bullshit of changing a well established character to fit an agenda for not reason other than to ride the coat tails of tbe big branded name. Make a well written movie plot, write the main character as an original character and written well and very few will complain that the character is a black woman with a prosthetic leg. Just stop changing well established characters in the name of change. 1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. at the minute the agenda is overpromoting female lead characters cos its trendy " If as a film producer you can think of a way to get your film talked about and the viewing figures up, you’ll do it. All successful films follow the trend | |||
"So who's gonna park the Aston now or is it just gonna look abandoned outside Primark? " | |||
"I honestly can’t believe how some people are so resistant to change. And it’s kind of weird that someone would call it “PC” or whatever wording. It’s not politically correct to have a woman, or a black person or whatever else in a movie. That’s just life. That’s just normal. It’s not a big deal. I find it odd that it would get someone worked up. James Bond is shit anyway. The vast majority of people are not against a woman or any race being the lead in a movie. It's the simple bullshit of changing a well established character to fit an agenda for not reason other than to ride the coat tails of tbe big branded name. Make a well written movie plot, write the main character as an original character and written well and very few will complain that the character is a black woman with a prosthetic leg. Just stop changing well established characters in the name of change. " | |||
"Dunno what woke is mind you" Same hear. Wot dus WOKE meen ? | |||
"So who's gonna park the Aston now or is it just gonna look abandoned outside Primark? " You don't drive an Aston Martin and shop at Primark. | |||
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"1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. " 1. I don't. It very well could be amazing, though bonds latest track record is not great. Same goes for a large amount of movies these days. 2. So what if its fiction? People have a passion for fiction, some uses forms of it to get through their life problems. They are invested in what happens. 3. The agenda of attempting to tick boxes of a SJW agenda. An agenda that is not subtle, but rams itself down your throat in bucket fulls. Usually with piss poor story. Ghost busters, hot shit. Star wars, garbage. Dr who, one of the worst. Ocean's 8, which I didn't mind too much to be honest, but didn't have the charm of the Clooney versions. The SJW agenda is so pretty that they went after Toy Story 4, an animated movie which is the conclusion of an already established movie characters plot line, because it didn't have a lead character that was black. 2 of the characters that were a big part of the movie were voiced by black actors. But no, a movie about toy characters was attacked for not fitting the agenda of ticking SJW agenda points. As I have said, with Bond they are being very clever with it, they are doing very similar to what I think they should do, introducing a new character instead of throwing the established association with a character out of the window and just slapping the name on them. The movies writting suffers when it tries to tick all of these SJW boxes. When in fact people would have less of an issue if it was introduced much more naturally and subtle. | |||
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"So who's gonna park the Aston now or is it just gonna look abandoned outside Primark? You don't drive an Aston Martin and shop at Primark." Oh behave yourself . . It's a bloody joke . . Or must we go into line by line explanations? | |||
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"1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. 1. I don't. It very well could be amazing, though bonds latest track record is not great. Same goes for a large amount of movies these days. 2. So what if its fiction? People have a passion for fiction, some uses forms of it to get through their life problems. They are invested in what happens. 3. The agenda of attempting to tick boxes of a SJW agenda. An agenda that is not subtle, but rams itself down your throat in bucket fulls. Usually with piss poor story. Ghost busters, hot shit. Star wars, garbage. Dr who, one of the worst. Ocean's 8, which I didn't mind too much to be honest, but didn't have the charm of the Clooney versions. The SJW agenda is so pretty that they went after Toy Story 4, an animated movie which is the conclusion of an already established movie characters plot line, because it didn't have a lead character that was black. 2 of the characters that were a big part of the movie were voiced by black actors. But no, a movie about toy characters was attacked for not fitting the agenda of ticking SJW agenda points. As I have said, with Bond they are being very clever with it, they are doing very similar to what I think they should do, introducing a new character instead of throwing the established association with a character out of the window and just slapping the name on them. The movies writting suffers when it tries to tick all of these SJW boxes. When in fact people would have less of an issue if it was introduced much more naturally and subtle." What’s SJW? | |||
"1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. 1. I don't. It very well could be amazing, though bonds latest track record is not great. Same goes for a large amount of movies these days. 2. So what if its fiction? People have a passion for fiction, some uses forms of it to get through their life problems. They are invested in what happens. 3. The agenda of attempting to tick boxes of a SJW agenda. An agenda that is not subtle, but rams itself down your throat in bucket fulls. Usually with piss poor story. Ghost busters, hot shit. Star wars, garbage. Dr who, one of the worst. Ocean's 8, which I didn't mind too much to be honest, but didn't have the charm of the Clooney versions. The SJW agenda is so pretty that they went after Toy Story 4, an animated movie which is the conclusion of an already established movie characters plot line, because it didn't have a lead character that was black. 2 of the characters that were a big part of the movie were voiced by black actors. But no, a movie about toy characters was attacked for not fitting the agenda of ticking SJW agenda points. As I have said, with Bond they are being very clever with it, they are doing very similar to what I think they should do, introducing a new character instead of throwing the established association with a character out of the window and just slapping the name on them. The movies writting suffers when it tries to tick all of these SJW boxes. When in fact people would have less of an issue if it was introduced much more naturally and subtle. What’s SJW?" Social Justice Warriors | |||
"1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. 1. I don't. It very well could be amazing, though bonds latest track record is not great. Same goes for a large amount of movies these days. 2. So what if its fiction? People have a passion for fiction, some uses forms of it to get through their life problems. They are invested in what happens. 3. The agenda of attempting to tick boxes of a SJW agenda. An agenda that is not subtle, but rams itself down your throat in bucket fulls. Usually with piss poor story. Ghost busters, hot shit. Star wars, garbage. Dr who, one of the worst. Ocean's 8, which I didn't mind too much to be honest, but didn't have the charm of the Clooney versions. The SJW agenda is so pretty that they went after Toy Story 4, an animated movie which is the conclusion of an already established movie characters plot line, because it didn't have a lead character that was black. 2 of the characters that were a big part of the movie were voiced by black actors. But no, a movie about toy characters was attacked for not fitting the agenda of ticking SJW agenda points. As I have said, with Bond they are being very clever with it, they are doing very similar to what I think they should do, introducing a new character instead of throwing the established association with a character out of the window and just slapping the name on them. The movies writting suffers when it tries to tick all of these SJW boxes. When in fact people would have less of an issue if it was introduced much more naturally and subtle." The fact that such absolutely basic stuff like putting more women in films winds up fragile boys like you is the best reason to keep doing it | |||
"1. How do you know it’s not a well written story? It’s not even out yet 2. It’s fiction. Chill out. 3. An agenda? This is the exact thing I meant I my comment. What the hell is the agenda? That’s a nuts thing to say. 1. I don't. It very well could be amazing, though bonds latest track record is not great. Same goes for a large amount of movies these days. 2. So what if its fiction? People have a passion for fiction, some uses forms of it to get through their life problems. They are invested in what happens. 3. The agenda of attempting to tick boxes of a SJW agenda. An agenda that is not subtle, but rams itself down your throat in bucket fulls. Usually with piss poor story. Ghost busters, hot shit. Star wars, garbage. Dr who, one of the worst. Ocean's 8, which I didn't mind too much to be honest, but didn't have the charm of the Clooney versions. The SJW agenda is so pretty that they went after Toy Story 4, an animated movie which is the conclusion of an already established movie characters plot line, because it didn't have a lead character that was black. 2 of the characters that were a big part of the movie were voiced by black actors. But no, a movie about toy characters was attacked for not fitting the agenda of ticking SJW agenda points. As I have said, with Bond they are being very clever with it, they are doing very similar to what I think they should do, introducing a new character instead of throwing the established association with a character out of the window and just slapping the name on them. The movies writting suffers when it tries to tick all of these SJW boxes. When in fact people would have less of an issue if it was introduced much more naturally and subtle. The fact that such absolutely basic stuff like putting more women in films winds up fragile boys like you is the best reason to keep doing it " I have no problem at all about more women in movies, be they lead characters or minor characters. I'm looking forward to black widow. I'd wish they would make a scarlet witch movie series. I'd love to see a movie series of hit-girl ALIEN and ALIENS, Terminator 2, Fury Road, Underworld (at least the first one). A few of my favourite movies that I watch more than once a year. Hell, Jessica Jones is my favourite of the 4 Netflix marvel shows. Trinity from the matrix, awesome character (in the first 2). I've binged the shit out of buffy the vampire slayer more times than I care to admit. Willow being my favourite character by far, oh look a gay female regular character. I welcome more female leads in movies, so long as there is great plot, well written character development and not changing a characters gender for the sake of it. Spider-woman, awesome addition to the marvel line up, and thanks to the multiverse/spiderverse they can add that in to make sense without it being forced. Agenda driven movies are focused on the agenda and the plot suffers for it. I want more female leads and focused movies. But I will not White Knight my way through it all and accept bad (or uninteresting) movies thst focus on a female lead for the sake of having a female lead. | |||
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"I'm just disappointed they didn't use a disabled female actor. The possibilities for a souped-up wheelchair with all the gadgets are endless and it would show that disabled people can be international super spies too. I think they missed an opportunity." Are you implying women can't be International Super Spies? Because there are plenty of women in the Intelligence Corps, GCHQ, MI5 and MI6. Many of whom do field work. | |||
"I'm just disappointed they didn't use a disabled female actor. The possibilities for a souped-up wheelchair with all the gadgets are endless and it would show that disabled people can be international super spies too. I think they missed an opportunity. Are you implying women can't be International Super Spies? Because there are plenty of women in the Intelligence Corps, GCHQ, MI5 and MI6. Many of whom do field work." Also going back to Ethnicity. Isn't it MORE likely, in this day and age.. that our International Super Spy is most likely brown skinned? I cant see many Toffy English Eatonian infiltrating Al Qaeda or IS. | |||
"I cant see many Toffy English Eatonian infiltrating Al Qaeda or IS. " Sorry old chap but you can't just introduce logic and common sense into a discussion on the internet. Just not the done thing doncha know. | |||
"I cant see many Toffy English Eatonian infiltrating Al Qaeda or IS. Sorry old chap but you can't just introduce logic and common sense into a discussion on the internet. Just not the done thing doncha know. " fuck it.. I'll have a Martini instead. | |||
"I'll use the same argument I've used before.. only defending someone else who wasn't an upper crust, white Englishman. There are lots of Bond films. Most of which are not connected to each other in any way. They only loosely follow the books they are based on, some less so than others. If Bond, Q, M and Moneypenny can be played by wildly different actors, bringing their own brand of gravitas, under the direction of many Directors using a vast array of different story telling styles and techniques. Then the Bond Franchise has ZERO continuity. Meaning.. Whoever produces and directs the next film, has the freedom to do whatever they like with it. Which is good, because there are lots of Action/Spy movies around and they're all a bit same and immature if you ask me. Fans of the franchise can only come up with one possible solution to the continuity error and that the names Bond, Q and Moneypenny are CODENAMES. Passed on from Agent to Agent. That being the case.. there is again.. ZERO reasons why the next Bond can't be female, or a different ethnicity, or transgender, or gay. IF its agenda driven.. does it matter? Provided it's an entertaining story? One that doesn't remove from the story. It's quite clear Disney/Marvel have an equality agenda and have really pushed the Female heroes. Changed the ethnicities of some heroes to make it more reflective of the world we all inhabit. Does it ruin the MCU? Only when it's forced, like one of the latter scenes in "End game" With the "Girl power" Moment. Yes, there are plenty of scenes where it's just the boys doing there thing. They don't all gather at once for a "Boy power" Moment. With the next generation of avengers rumoured to have some LGBTQ heroes added to the Avenger roster, I hope I'm not subjected to a cringe worthy "Pride Power" Moment. Black Panther was agenda driven, the whole film was a "Black Power" Moment. It didnt detract from the story though. It added to the Universe it's set in and provided a brilliant possible alternate history "What if.." Theories. Agenda or not, I'd question anyone's outrage at seeing a beloved franchise take a slightly different turn every now and again.. Provided the story line or lack of continuity allow for it. It's not YOUR story to tell. Swapping Hermione out half way through the Series for a young black actor would be insane. To start it all over again using young black actor? Where is the harm in it? " but there would be riots if black panther or shaft was played by liam neeson great actor but not as the character was designed As a kid i always wanted to be james bond he was my movie hero this movie pisses on my childhood | |||
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"I'm just disappointed they didn't use a disabled female actor. The possibilities for a souped-up wheelchair with all the gadgets are endless and it would show that disabled people can be international super spies too. I think they missed an opportunity. Are you implying women can't be International Super Spies? Because there are plenty of women in the Intelligence Corps, GCHQ, MI5 and MI6. Many of whom do field work." No, I said "disabled female actor" It's all just fiction anyway, who really cares? | |||
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