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ACTA - 'The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement'
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Fair do's or Big Brother watching you?
Your internet freedom is under threat.
watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Xg_C2YmG0
a bit long winded but it is rather worrying. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The internet has got to be policed one way or another, it's too Wild West on it at the moment and I think Wyatt Earp is long overdue. You can't walk out of a music store with cds you haven't paid for so why should t'internet be any different. I'm not whiter than white and I've downloaded music from youtube and converted them into wmv files for playing in the car, but that's only for my own enjoyment - still illegal yes, hands up to that, but I'm not distributing the files for resale on a mass scale like some do. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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your provided will be obliged under this to open any bundle you send via the net and check for contraventions. You mean to say, you are ok with that?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I signed the ACTA petition a couple of weeks ago. In the meantime the Irish government has just signed into law their equivalent of SOPA.
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People like Wishy seem to think that these laws are benign and will only be used to stop international gangsters counterfeiting on a massive scale. They won't; like most laws like this are used in a blunderbuss manner against easy targets and often as a means of controlling dissent, not piracy. A couple of years ago half the local authorities in the UK admitted using anti-terrorism legislation (RIPA) to spy on people putting their rubbish bins out on the wrong day.
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To use Wishy's analogy about a music shop, how would he feel if the shop was closed down by the authorities because a record company claimed the somone had put an advert on the shop's free-to-use noticeboard selling a 30-yr bootleg cassette of a Rolling Stones concert? That is what can happen to a website.
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Claire's Accessories, a massive US company has been caught blatantly copying the designs of independent jewellery designers. Do you think the FBI or Interpol will close down Claire's Accessories' website? Will they buggery.
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SOPA was worse than ACTA, but ACTA's pretty damn bad. SOPA would have broken the fundamental structure of the Internet while not touching the infrastructures used for the really illegal activity
ACTA "just" removes existing (entirely sensible and legitimate) safeguards and exemptions from international trade agreements, adds a hefty presumption of guilt into copyright-related proceedings and makes fighting back against false or malicious claims even more onerous and ineffectual than it already is.
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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At least they have had the decency to tell us they are now spying on us, I bet they have been watching for ages. Information gathering and exploitation is big business, has been before the net arrived, and will be in the future. Personally, I think we will just have to live with it and the many forms it will come from just plain spying or targeted advertising. Copyright will be harder policed as the law differs across the globe, soft touch Britain will sign up for anything, so I see plenty of prosecutions here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"SOPA was worse than ACTA, but ACTA's pretty damn bad. SOPA would have broken the fundamental structure of the Internet while not touching the infrastructures used for the really illegal activity
ACTA "just" removes existing (entirely sensible and legitimate) safeguards and exemptions from international trade agreements, adds a hefty presumption of guilt into copyright-related proceedings and makes fighting back against false or malicious claims even more onerous and ineffectual than it already is.
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Rather than use Google to er "google", i use the much simpler "DuckDuckGo" which promises not to spy on your usage. Whether they do or not i don't know or care.
It also has a setting to return "adult" results, apparently.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well, I just hope that when I mention the planned surprise for granny's birthday should go off with a BANG and that she won't know what HIT her, and that it should be a BLAST - that nobody is listening who shouldn't be cos it'll scupper all our carefully laid SECRET planning.  |
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"Well, I just hope that when I mention the planned surprise for granny's birthday should go off with a BANG and that she won't know what HIT her, and that it should be a BLAST - that nobody is listening who shouldn't be cos it'll scupper all our carefully laid SECRET planning. "
Yeah, well be careful when discussing skiing on that white stuff called SNOW in chatrooms. I was banned wtf.
Which in some ways is a blessing in disguise. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well, I just hope that when I mention the planned surprise for granny's birthday should go off with a BANG and that she won't know what HIT her, and that it should be a BLAST - that nobody is listening who shouldn't be cos it'll scupper all our carefully laid SECRET planning.
Yeah, well be careful when discussing skiing on that white stuff called SNOW in chatrooms. I was banned wtf.
Which in some ways is a blessing in disguise. "
Aha! Jodrell Bank was listening and GRASSED you up.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I signed the ACTA petition a couple of weeks ago. In the meantime the Irish government has just signed into law their equivalent of SOPA.
.
People like Wishy seem to think that these laws are benign and will only be used to stop international gangsters counterfeiting on a massive scale. They won't; like most laws like this are used in a blunderbuss manner against easy targets and often as a means of controlling dissent, not piracy. A couple of years ago half the local authorities in the UK admitted using anti-terrorism legislation (RIPA) to spy on people putting their rubbish bins out on the wrong day.
.
To use Wishy's analogy about a music shop, how would he feel if the shop was closed down by the authorities because a record company claimed the somone had put an advert on the shop's free-to-use noticeboard selling a 30-yr bootleg cassette of a Rolling Stones concert? That is what can happen to a website.
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Claire's Accessories, a massive US company has been caught blatantly copying the designs of independent jewellery designers. Do you think the FBI or Interpol will close down Claire's Accessories' website? Will they buggery.
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