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over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes 
Surely stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason... some people must conform to them?"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Surely stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason... some people must conform to them?"
Why must we conform to them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes "
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person. "
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me "
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you "
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about "
People will have those stupid stereotypes regardless though.
Should every gay guy live their lives the same way so as not to confirm stereotypes? For your benefit?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about
People will have those stupid stereotypes regardless though.
Should every gay guy live their lives the same way so as not to confirm stereotypes? For your benefit?
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Yes if gay men want real equality and respect then they should conform and stop deliberately trying to stand out. It drags us all down and is harmful and embarrassing. You are not in my shoes so will not be able to understand but I appreciate your interaction on the matter even thoughI do not agree with you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about
People will have those stupid stereotypes regardless though.
Should every gay guy live their lives the same way so as not to confirm stereotypes? For your benefit?
Yes if gay men want real equality and respect then they should conform and stop deliberately trying to stand out. It drags us all down and is harmful and embarrassing. You are not in my shoes so will not be able to understand but I appreciate your interaction on the matter even thoughI do not agree with you"
What?!
So basically people shouldn’t be themselves if it makes them stand out?! Everyone deserves equality  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about
People will have those stupid stereotypes regardless though.
Should every gay guy live their lives the same way so as not to confirm stereotypes? For your benefit?
Yes if gay men want real equality and respect then they should conform and stop deliberately trying to stand out. It drags us all down and is harmful and embarrassing. You are not in my shoes so will not be able to understand but I appreciate your interaction on the matter even thoughI do not agree with you
What?!
So basically people shouldn’t be themselves if it makes them stand out?! Everyone deserves equality "
Exactly!
Don't you see? That's literally like some straight guy telling you you should "be straight" cos you being gay is making people think every man is gay.
So silly. If people wanna stereotype you, fuck them! You are who you are. You and everyone else should be able to live however the fuck you want providing you're not hurting anyone.
Why shouldn't the OP?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You often find that homosexuals are homophobic themselves
"My kind of gay is the right way. Everyone else is an embarrassment""
So true! And such a shame! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about
People will have those stupid stereotypes regardless though.
Should every gay guy live their lives the same way so as not to confirm stereotypes? For your benefit?
Yes if gay men want real equality and respect then they should conform and stop deliberately trying to stand out. It drags us all down and is harmful and embarrassing. You are not in my shoes so will not be able to understand but I appreciate your interaction on the matter even thoughI do not agree with you
What?!
So basically people shouldn’t be themselves if it makes them stand out?! Everyone deserves equality "
Prancing around with flappy wrists, effeminate put on voice and weird little outfits annoys many people, both straight and masculine gay. It is a show up and anti-social in my eyes, deliberate provocation and attention seeking. Again you have not been in my shoes the last 23 years and do not appreciate the harm these types do to us.
Ladies I think we are all going to have to agree to disagree on this subject |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about
People will have those stupid stereotypes regardless though.
Should every gay guy live their lives the same way so as not to confirm stereotypes? For your benefit?
Yes if gay men want real equality and respect then they should conform and stop deliberately trying to stand out. It drags us all down and is harmful and embarrassing. You are not in my shoes so will not be able to understand but I appreciate your interaction on the matter even thoughI do not agree with you
What?!
So basically people shouldn’t be themselves if it makes them stand out?! Everyone deserves equality
Prancing around with flappy wrists, effeminate put on voice and weird little outfits annoys many people, both straight and masculine gay. It is a show up and anti-social in my eyes, deliberate provocation and attention seeking. Again you have not been in my shoes the last 23 years and do not appreciate the harm these types do to us.
Ladies I think we are all going to have to agree to disagree on this subject "
Yep. Definitely agree to disagree.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You often find that homosexuals are homophobic themselves
"My kind of gay is the right way. Everyone else is an embarrassment""
Please don’t brand me homophobic it is an insult, I was fighting against serious homophobia in the 1990s as a teenager and did my bit to try to educate a lot of people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Why are their actions embarrassing to you?
A lot of women on here do shit that makes me cringe, doesn't make a difference to me though. I'm a different person.
The stereotypes of gays are much worse than the stereotypes of women. Many ordinary gay and bi men feel the same as me
That's not what I asked you.
Would you change the way you live because it's annoying to a total stranger? He obviously enjoys what he enjoys, whether or not that makes him fit a stereotype is his business. It really doesn't affect you.
OP, don't worry about what other's think, do you
You are wrong, gay stereotypes and those who enforce them do affect me, mainly on how I am treated immediately by heterosexual strangers and colleagues. I have 23 years experience of this, I know what I am talking about
People will have those stupid stereotypes regardless though.
Should every gay guy live their lives the same way so as not to confirm stereotypes? For your benefit?
Yes if gay men want real equality and respect then they should conform and stop deliberately trying to stand out. It drags us all down and is harmful and embarrassing. You are not in my shoes so will not be able to understand but I appreciate your interaction on the matter even thoughI do not agree with you
What?!
So basically people shouldn’t be themselves if it makes them stand out?! Everyone deserves equality
Prancing around with flappy wrists, effeminate put on voice and weird little outfits annoys many people, both straight and masculine gay. It is a show up and anti-social in my eyes, deliberate provocation and attention seeking. Again you have not been in my shoes the last 23 years and do not appreciate the harm these types do to us.
Ladies I think we are all going to have to agree to disagree on this subject "
Absolutely!
You're telling people they should live according to your rules. I definitely disagree. And I think it's really quite sad you feel that way.
Acceptance should be for EVERYONE! Pride should be for EVERYONE. Not just those you deem to be the right kind of gay. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You often find that homosexuals are homophobic themselves
"My kind of gay is the right way. Everyone else is an embarrassment"
Please don’t brand me homophobic it is an insult, I was fighting against serious homophobia in the 1990s as a teenager and did my bit to try to educate a lot of people."
Sorry, but your comments are homophobic
As you said to the ladies, "we'll have to agree to disagree" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I know you mean well ladies but you do not understand how wide spread my opinions are amongst many ordinary masculine gay men, loads feel the same. I know you are posting with good intentions though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You often find that homosexuals are homophobic themselves
"My kind of gay is the right way. Everyone else is an embarrassment"
Please don’t brand me homophobic it is an insult, I was fighting against serious homophobia in the 1990s as a teenager and did my bit to try to educate a lot of people.
Sorry, but your comments are homophobic
As you said to the ladies, "we'll have to agree to disagree""
I am going to stop interacting with you |
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"You often find that homosexuals are homophobic themselves
"My kind of gay is the right way. Everyone else is an embarrassment"
Please don’t brand me homophobic it is an insult, I was fighting against serious homophobia in the 1990s as a teenager and did my bit to try to educate a lot of people."
I can only imagine that must have been a difficult period. And yes, I have never walked in your shoes..its difficult enough sometimes to walk in my own. I understand what your saying but still...
I may live with rose tinted on glasses on but I like to see people being themselves. It's their path, their right, their life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I know you mean well ladies but you do not understand how wide spread my opinions are amongst many ordinary masculine gay men, loads feel the same. I know you are posting with good intentions though "
Just because some people agree, doesn't make what you're saying correct.
Many people agree with Trump, doesn't make him any less of a cunt.
(Not putting you in the same box as Trump, just an example).
I genuinely don't understand how you could think it's ok to tell people they shouldn't be a certain way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Now to get to another point. Effeminate/ gay men attack masculine gay men claiming they are self-hating or fake gays etc as they are not camp. But many masculine gay men are naturally masculine. It is getting worse now, seems masculinity is under blatant attack with many gays these days. So it works both ways. Off to work now thanks for the discussion folks |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Now to get to another point. Effeminate/ gay men attack masculine gay men claiming they are self-hating or fake gays etc as they are not camp. But many masculine gay men are naturally masculine. It is getting worse now, seems masculinity is under blatant attack with many gays these days. So it works both ways. Off to work now thanks for the discussion folks "
Two wrongs don't make a right |
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"Now to get to another point. Effeminate/ gay men attack masculine gay men claiming they are self-hating or fake gays etc as they are not camp. But many masculine gay men are naturally masculine. It is getting worse now, seems masculinity is under blatant attack with many gays these days. So it works both ways. Off to work now thanks for the discussion folks
Two wrongs don't make a right"
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
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Surely stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason... some people must conform to them?
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Why must we conform to them? "
You obviously missunderstand. A stereotype is created from observed behaviours, so some people must demonstrate those behaviours before they become a stereotype.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Now to get to another point. Effeminate/ gay men attack masculine gay men claiming they are self-hating or fake gays etc as they are not camp. But many masculine gay men are naturally masculine. It is getting worse now, seems masculinity is under blatant attack with many gays these days. So it works both ways. Off to work now thanks for the discussion folks
Two wrongs don't make a right"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Now to get to another point. Effeminate/ gay men attack masculine gay men claiming they are self-hating or fake gays etc as they are not camp. But many masculine gay men are naturally masculine. It is getting worse now, seems masculinity is under blatant attack with many gays these days. So it works both ways. Off to work now thanks for the discussion folks "
How would you feel if I told you to stop being gay because you are an embarrassment to men. Just conform to the heterosexual norm and stop being different? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Now to get to another point. Effeminate/ gay men attack masculine gay men claiming they are self-hating or fake gays etc as they are not camp. But many masculine gay men are naturally masculine. It is getting worse now, seems masculinity is under blatant attack with many gays these days. So it works both ways. Off to work now thanks for the discussion folks "
You're contradicting yourself.
So it's ok for you to be yourself, and be masculine, even though others might not like it.
But it's not ok for others to be themselves and more "effeminate" because you think it causes people to make false judgements of you?
Complete double standard.  |
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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago
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"Some gays/ bi on here really embarrass us, enforcing stereotypes
Surely stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason... some people must conform to them?"
More like a small minded minority create the stereotypes and then seek to make everyone else conform to them |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The OP has the right to put whatever he wants in his profile or act however he wants, just as everyone has the same right regardless of stereotypes or opinions.
I'm not sure many straight guys would be into fisting though OP  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is campness natural or learned behaviour? "
It can be both
For some, it is undoubtedly natural
For others, there is a tendancy to 'camp it up'
It becomes a persona |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The OP has the right to put whatever he wants in his profile or act however he wants, just as everyone has the same right regardless of stereotypes or opinions.
I'm not sure many straight guys would be into fisting though OP "
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