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By *ot-Ash OP Man
over a year ago
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Is it wrong to over celebrate?
The USA women's football team recently thrashed Thailand's women's team 13-0 at the world cup but have been accused of over celebrating and showing a lack of class...
There is nothing wrong with celebrating scoring a goal but were their antics over the top and did the show a lack of respect to the opposition?...
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By *ot-Ash OP Man
over a year ago
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"I haven’t seen it but was it really more OTT than those celebrations displayed by Male players?"
I thought it was...The striker who scored 5 times especially was counting how many times she had scored on one hand showing disrespect to Thailand.... |
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"Why how did they over celebrate?
I thought it was way over the top...You know how the Americans sometimes go a bit crazy when they do well in sports...!
Whoop whooping and screaming? Lol "
Americans don’t scream.... it’s ‘whooping and a’hollering’! |
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By *ot-Ash OP Man
over a year ago
London |
"Not seen it but isn't it just a case of sore losers?"
The Thailand womens team haven't been complaining about their thrashing...Most of the complaints have actually been coming from other sports men and women in the USA... |
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"Why how did they over celebrate?
I thought it was way over the top...You know how the Americans sometimes go a bit crazy when they do well in sports...!
Whoop whooping and screaming? Lol
Americans don’t scream.... it’s ‘whooping and a’hollering’!"
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong to over celebrate?
The USA women's football team recently thrashed Thailand's women's team 13-0 at the world cup but have been accused of over celebrating and showing a lack of class...
There is nothing wrong with celebrating scoring a goal but were their antics over the top and did the show a lack of respect to the opposition?...
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basically whilst i don't tend to agree with running up the score (being top of their group avoid a really hard last 16 game), i can see why they did it... but the way they were celebrating at the end was a bit too OTT for me |
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By *ot-Ash OP Man
over a year ago
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"Why how did they over celebrate?
I thought it was way over the top...You know how the Americans sometimes go a bit crazy when they do well in sports...!
Whoop whooping and screaming? Lol "
I really hate the get in the hole shouts from the Americans when the golf is on!... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not seen it but isn't it just a case of sore losers?
The Thailand womens team haven't been complaining about their thrashing...Most of the complaints have actually been coming from other sports men and women in the USA..."
Why? Do they think its not in the spirit of the game. |
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"Not seen it but isn't it just a case of sore losers?
The Thailand womens team haven't been complaining about their thrashing...Most of the complaints have actually been coming from other sports men and women in the USA...
Why? Do they think its not in the spirit of the game. "
As a sportsperson or team your celebration is an acknowledgement of being victorious in the competition, the key, I think is, ‘competition’ at 4-0 I guess the competition was over ... it is no longer competitive .... therefore celebration should match the achievement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think because we as a nation are more reserved.....it's seen as bad taste...."
Yes I agree but it seems to be more America's are annoyed by it, if twitter is anything to go by. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not seen it but isn't it just a case of sore losers?
The Thailand womens team haven't been complaining about their thrashing...Most of the complaints have actually been coming from other sports men and women in the USA...
Why? Do they think its not in the spirit of the game.
As a sportsperson or team your celebration is an acknowledgement of being victorious in the competition, the key, I think is, ‘competition’ at 4-0 I guess the competition was over ... it is no longer competitive .... therefore celebration should match the achievement. "
OK that makes sense. |
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By *ot-Ash OP Man
over a year ago
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"Not seen it but isn't it just a case of sore losers?
The Thailand womens team haven't been complaining about their thrashing...Most of the complaints have actually been coming from other sports men and women in the USA...
Why? Do they think its not in the spirit of the game. "
No..That's what most of the complaints have been about... |
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"I think because we as a nation are more reserved.....it's seen as bad taste....
Yes I agree but it seems to be more America's are annoyed by it, if twitter is anything to go by. "
Maybe their a bit embarrassed by their teams over celebrating ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not seen it but isn't it just a case of sore losers?
The Thailand womens team haven't been complaining about their thrashing...Most of the complaints have actually been coming from other sports men and women in the USA...
Why? Do they think its not in the spirit of the game.
No..That's what most of the complaints have been about..."
Oh, well that told me! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I suspect that it relates to the semi correographed routines at the side of the pitch. I guess the only things I'm not used to in one sided games like it that, were a) the winning team never let up and took it easier and b) the celebrations were with gusto for each goal.
On a) fair enough as they were wanting the record for winning margin. On b) most of the goals actually meant something meaningful to the scorer - highest number of goals scored, or scoring after a return to side, or the contribution made to game.
I loved the game and was impressed with the Americans. I said to someone that they were a good football side, not just a good women's side. Was a joy to watch. |
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I noticed since the 90s, the USA team can show very poor sportsmanship - world champs (athletic, swimming) and olympics. You can see the european athletes tend to shake hands with one another but the americans usually treats their competitors as enemy rather than fellow athletes.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I noticed since the 90s, the USA team can show very poor sportsmanship - world champs (athletic, swimming) and olympics. You can see the european athletes tend to shake hands with one another but the americans usually treats their competitors as enemy rather than fellow athletes.
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Usually agree, but last night there was no gloating on show and indeed at end of game they genuinely seemed to be sympathetic to the Thai side and several went and commiserated with the Thai goalie |
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"I noticed since the 90s, the USA team can show very poor sportsmanship - world champs (athletic, swimming) and olympics. You can see the european athletes tend to shake hands with one another but the americans usually treats their competitors as enemy rather than fellow athletes.
Usually agree, but last night there was no gloating on show and indeed at end of game they genuinely seemed to be sympathetic to the Thai side and several went and commiserated with the Thai goalie"
A bit patronising don't you think... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I noticed since the 90s, the USA team can show very poor sportsmanship - world champs (athletic, swimming) and olympics. You can see the european athletes tend to shake hands with one another but the americans usually treats their competitors as enemy rather than fellow athletes.
Usually agree, but last night there was no gloating on show and indeed at end of game they genuinely seemed to be sympathetic to the Thai side and several went and commiserated with the Thai goalie
A bit patronising don't you think..."
Not really, to me it was a sign of recognising that the opposition had tried their hardest but were not in the same class. |
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"I noticed since the 90s, the USA team can show very poor sportsmanship - world champs (athletic, swimming) and olympics. You can see the european athletes tend to shake hands with one another but the americans usually treats their competitors as enemy rather than fellow athletes.
Usually agree, but last night there was no gloating on show and indeed at end of game they genuinely seemed to be sympathetic to the Thai side and several went and commiserated with the Thai goalie
A bit patronising don't you think...
Not really, to me it was a sign of recognising that the opposition had tried their hardest but were not in the same class. "
Yeh the *well played* would have been more appropriate more than commiserated because their not in the same class ...... |
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By *r NeilMan
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong to over celebrate?
The USA women's football team recently thrashed Thailand's women's team 13-0 at the world cup but have been accused of over celebrating and showing a lack of class...
There is nothing wrong with celebrating scoring a goal but were their antics over the top and did the show a lack of respect to the opposition?...
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obviously you ain't played football at any level you must of been last pick haha |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I didn't see anything wrong with it.
Let's put it like this, would this conversation be happening if we were talking about the men's game? Better still, what if the England men's team won by 13-0?
If they'd done that there'd be headline news along the lines of "Pride of a nation!" and "Triumphant heroes!" and the like.
There'd probably be a parade when they got home and possibly even knighthoods.
Everyone would be saying how amazing the team was doing. Remember the last men's world cup and the easy route England had, yet still messed up, and how they were called heroes when they returned. That happened when they lost!
I didn't see anything wrong at all with the women's USA team victory. They played well and celebrated accordingly.
We're not reserved, we just don't like it when any team other than England wins or break records. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it wrong to over celebrate?
The USA women's football team recently thrashed Thailand's women's team 13-0 at the world cup but have been accused of over celebrating and showing a lack of class...
There is nothing wrong with celebrating scoring a goal but were their antics over the top and did the show a lack of respect to the opposition?...
obviously you ain't played football at any level you must of been last pick haha "
He was simply asking a question. No need for unfounded assumptions.  |
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By *ot-Ash OP Man
over a year ago
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"I didn't see anything wrong with it.
Let's put it like this, would this conversation be happening if we were talking about the men's game? Better still, what if the England men's team won by 13-0?
If they'd done that there'd be headline news along the lines of "Pride of a nation!" and "Triumphant heroes!" and the like.
There'd probably be a parade when they got home and possibly even knighthoods.
Everyone would be saying how amazing the team was doing. Remember the last men's world cup and the easy route England had, yet still messed up, and how they were called heroes when they returned. That happened when they lost!
I didn't see anything wrong at all with the women's USA team victory. They played well and celebrated accordingly.
We're not reserved, we just don't like it when any team other than England wins or break records."
If England's men's team had beaten Thailand's men team by 13-0 and the players had over celebrated I would have also started a thread about it for not being in the spirit of the game so this conversation would still have been happening as football has an ethos about fair play and bringing the world together...
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"Is it wrong to over celebrate?
The USA women's football team recently thrashed Thailand's women's team 13-0 at the world cup but have been accused of over celebrating and showing a lack of class...
There is nothing wrong with celebrating scoring a goal but were their antics over the top and did the show a lack of respect to the opposition?...
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No I think it's fine. That 13th goal could be that persons first ever goal. Their first goal after a long term injury or even after something worked on in training.
I'd have a problem 8th it was junior sport. Nobody gains anything in a scoreline like that with kids. Allow the score to remain, you can't deny the result but don't report it in that manner.
Report it as 5-0 so some kids don't get their confidence battered. |
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It’s how you behave after the match, I believe the Thai Goalkeeper got support and sympathy from one or more of the US players (just read about it).
You’ve scored in a World Cup, after all the training and sacrifice you’ve put yourself through, damn right you’d celebrate, especially if it’s your first goal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not bring derogatory but I have zero interest in women's football. I do watch some women's sport but football isn't one of them.
The fact that this particular debate is being held at all (including on national radio) says to me more than anything else that that women's game has arrived and needs to be taken into consideration.
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