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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't believe in destiny, fate or whatever you want to call it.
Believing in destiny means the future is already written and our lives are already mapped out including everything we do and say.
If this were to be true, our own freewill would be an illusion which would probably render our existence pointless. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have heard and experienced enough to believe that some things were meant to be.
How the big plan comes together i am not sure but speaking for myself I think life is like a tapestry.
When you are making it from the back the threads don’t seem to have a pattern but every now and then you turn it to the front and see how the threads have come together to make a picture.
LJ |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Do u believe in destiny?Do you?in part yes like how do tell." some things in my life are and have been meant to happen or theres a chance could happen but sometimes you need to chizel the edges to get it
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"Do u believe in destiny?Do you?in part yes like how do tell.some things in my life are and have been meant to happen or theres a chance could happen but sometimes you need to chizel the edges to get it" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have heard and experienced enough to believe that some things were meant to be.
How the big plan comes together i am not sure but speaking for myself I think life is like a tapestry.
When you are making it from the back the threads don’t seem to have a pattern but every now and then you turn it to the front and see how the threads have come together to make a picture.
LJ"
I like that. |
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Our genes provide some basis for destiny but are just the potentiators, often needing our environment to further enable such potential. We're not a.blank sheet, having a loaded starting point. On the current world statistics will show the likelihood of certain outcomes as possibilities, with the dice loaded from birth. The experiences of our ancestors may somewhat define our destiny too.
We have options and decisions that we'll take, which will affect our outcomes. Is there a supernatural destiny that's pre-ordained? I'm inclined to think not and that our inflated egos influence us up think that we are more important than the more likely reality. We live, we die. |
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Some things you can influence, some you can't. So I guess that's destiny to a certain extent.
But people have a whole lot more power and choice over what they do than they like to acknowledge.
Sometimes it's easier to pass the buck and say oh that's fate/destiny...rather than owning it and taking responsibility. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
Destiny/fate/whatever are convenient labels to explain things, both good and bad, that happen as we walk this road called life.
Whether things are pre-ordained as such I very much doubt, but I do believe in sliding doors moments, and circumstances adding up and conspiring to arrive at an outcome through a series of conscious and sub-conscious decisions we make - whether that is destiny or fate I'm not sure. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sometimes we make our own destiny. Sometimes no matter how much we try we just dont.
It's not always possible to control our own futures, much less the future of others....yet without hope and dreams our destiny may never be fulfilled.
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By (user no longer on site)
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No. I like to think I'm in control of my own life and decisions. Obviously things happen outwith my control but I like to think I can change the outcome with my choices. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Here's a good question? If a person becomes an alcoholic or a drug addict, did they choose to be an alcoholic or an addict or were they destined to be an alcoholic or addict? |
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"Here's a good question? If a person becomes an alcoholic or a drug addict, did they choose to be an alcoholic or an addict or were they destined to be an alcoholic or addict?"
You can be affected/influenced by circumstances, but ultimately any behaviours are choice based.
That first drink or that first line are your choice.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Here's a good question? If a person becomes an alcoholic or a drug addict, did they choose to be an alcoholic or an addict or were they destined to be an alcoholic or addict?"
In my case YES!!!!
LJ |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Here's a good question? If a person becomes an alcoholic or a drug addict, did they choose to be an alcoholic or an addict or were they destined to be an alcoholic or addict?
You can be affected/influenced by circumstances, but ultimately any behaviours are choice based.
That first drink or that first line are your choice.
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This is completely wrong!!
I took my first drink like everyone else but for an alcoholic it does something to us that it doesn’t do to the average person.
We completely loose the ability to choose anymore.
It has nothing to do with willpower as an alcoholic has willpower which is second to none.
We would walk through a blizzard in boxer shorts to get a drink and I have actually done worse!!!
And our willpower is limited to getting a drink for example i spent 24 hours on Ben Nevis with over 16 hours on the North Face itself in snow, wind and it was -20 with the windchill.
I was dehydrated, hungry, tired and even had 1st degree frostbite.
I had a member of our team of 4 completely melting down in fear but i got everyone up and down safely despite how long it took, this is just one of many examples of my strength of will.
We have a saying, “try using willpower on diarrhea”.
That’s how it is for alcoholics and addicts.
LJ |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Destiny/fate/whatever are convenient labels to explain things, both good and bad, that happen as we walk this road called life.
Whether things are pre-ordained as such I very much doubt, but I do believe in sliding doors moments, and circumstances adding up and conspiring to arrive at an outcome through a series of conscious and sub-conscious decisions we make - whether that is destiny or fate I'm not sure."
Sliding doors!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sometimes we make our own destiny. Sometimes no matter how much we try we just dont.
It's not always possible to control our own futures, much less the future of others....yet without hope and dreams our destiny may never be fulfilled.
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We can't control other people so their destiny affects us too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sometimes we make our own destiny. Sometimes no matter how much we try we just dont.
It's not always possible to control our own futures, much less the future of others....yet without hope and dreams our destiny may never be fulfilled.
We can't control other people so their destiny affects us too."
Perhaps that's why we can have so many different potential destinies. Our lives aren't written in some big plan that says this is how it will be.
We all make our choices, yet no one is an island, and unless we live in a cave, our choices will always impact on others... |
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No I don't believe in destiny. If I did I would never take medication, actively look for a job or bother to look aftery health because if its all predestined it'll happen anyway.
Destiny, fate and karma are designed to make people accept bad things without complaint |
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"No I don't believe in destiny. If I did I would never take medication, actively look for a job or bother to look aftery health because if its all predestined it'll happen anyway.
Destiny, fate and karma are designed to make people accept bad things without complaint "
I seperate karma from destiny/fate. If you help somebody its more likely they will help you, if your a dick people will be dicks back karma is the one that has real impact |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sometimes we make our own destiny. Sometimes no matter how much we try we just dont.
It's not always possible to control our own futures, much less the future of others....yet without hope and dreams our destiny may never be fulfilled.
We can't control other people so their destiny affects us too.
Perhaps that's why we can have so many different potential destinies. Our lives aren't written in some big plan that says this is how it will be.
We all make our choices, yet no one is an island, and unless we live in a cave, our choices will always impact on others..."
I think so. |
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"No I don't believe in destiny. If I did I would never take medication, actively look for a job or bother to look aftery health because if its all predestined it'll happen anyway.
Destiny, fate and karma are designed to make people accept bad things without complaint
I seperate karma from destiny/fate. If you help somebody its more likely they will help you, if your a dick people will be dicks back karma is the one that has real impact "
Is it just on a personal level in your opinion? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I dont know really, I like the whole romantic notions behind it all and I do tend to use things as 'signs' that something was or is a good idea or not, but thats just my latent superstitious nature playing me up. Its just our choices that affect us at the end of the day and how we respond to what we have chosen. |
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"No I don't believe in destiny. If I did I would never take medication, actively look for a job or bother to look aftery health because if its all predestined it'll happen anyway.
Destiny, fate and karma are designed to make people accept bad things without complaint
I seperate karma from destiny/fate. If you help somebody its more likely they will help you, if your a dick people will be dicks back karma is the one that has real impact
Is it just on a personal level in your opinion? "
Id say so yeah but it's also a daisy chain..
If I'm nice to you, you smile and by you smiling the guy who's just walked past you saw you smile when he really didn't feel good but your smile made him smile so karma gave a bit of goodness to all but was created on the personal level |
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"No I don't believe in destiny. If I did I would never take medication, actively look for a job or bother to look aftery health because if its all predestined it'll happen anyway.
Destiny, fate and karma are designed to make people accept bad things without complaint
I seperate karma from destiny/fate. If you help somebody its more likely they will help you, if your a dick people will be dicks back karma is the one that has real impact
Is it just on a personal level in your opinion?
Id say so yeah but it's also a daisy chain..
If I'm nice to you, you smile and by you smiling the guy who's just walked past you saw you smile when he really didn't feel good but your smile made him smile so karma gave a bit of goodness to all but was created on the personal level"
OK. I do believe that it's nice to be nice, it makes me feel better and other people. It's good for your soul.
I can't believe in a universal tit for tat system though when I look at the children in Syria for example. |
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