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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Where does it end?
Should it be the position of the Manager (or the company) to determine the diet of its staff?
For context, I am not talking PT type roles. More sales admin / advisor. |
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"Where does it end?
Should it be the position of the Manager (or the company) to determine the diet of its staff?
For context, I am not talking PT type roles. More sales admin / advisor."
I dont see what difference it makes unless the job is physically demanding ?? |
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Think that’s a violation of personal choice and completely unreasonable.
Perhaps, and this is a real stretch, if it was say a vegan company or somewhere that has a public image based on food, then they might have a point about food at work. But not outside. |
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By *iss SJWoman
over a year ago
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"Where does it end?
Should it be the position of the Manager (or the company) to determine the diet of its staff?
For context, I am not talking PT type roles. More sales admin / advisor."
Not unless they are providing your food free of charge or if say you are eating stinky food in the office. Your diet is nothing to do with your manager. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
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A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have to fill out a health declaration every six months,it wants to know about hospital stays, treatments, outpatients appointments, previous conditions.
And a leuven scale of foods eaten
And asks how much alchohol consumed in a week.
Quite invasive but, and I don't list half of the stuff. Only stuff which relates to the present. |
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"I have to fill out a health declaration every six months,it wants to know about hospital stays, treatments, outpatients appointments, previous conditions.
And a leuven scale of foods eaten
And asks how much alchohol consumed in a week.
Quite invasive but, and I don't list half of the stuff. Only stuff which relates to the present."
To quote an American tennis player "" You can't be serious !!"" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If you’re talking about a sales and admin advisor how does what they eat or drink have anything to do with their capability to do their job other than if you’re trying to portray a certain image. Even in the world of gyms if you look at the majority of the worlds strongest men they’re not exactly trim.
If I’m buying something I want the person with the best knowledge of what I’m buying.
I went on a secondment to Belgium for work where the canteen served alcohol with lunch. If you want to portray healthier options offer healthy meals or subsidise people for eating healthier options to be delivered.
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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"Sounds like one of those box ticking exercises so that the company can say they promote a healthy lifestyle. "
 I think it's in line with the government's initative to try and tackle obesity and promote healthier living. I can see why it makes you a bit... My company offer significantly reduced gym memberships, healthy food options etc. Maybe it is the line of thinking that a healthier workforce is a better one but it could be a slippery slope. |
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40 years ago, lunchtimes in the pub were an acceptable thing.
20 years ago smoking in work was ok too.
I think in another 10 years we will look back and be horrified at the sugary shite people ate at their desks.
Tastes great but wrong on so many levels. |
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I would be raging. We eat a pretty decent diet anyway but I am sick and tired of being told what to eat at every turn.
If I work I accept wages in return for my work. If I'm performing to a standard they find acceptable what I eat has nothing to do with them. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me "
Does your workplace have a problem with sickness absence?
That's the only justification I could think of, and even then it feels like a bit of over-reach. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely."
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely.
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy"
Go have an apple and simmer doon  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely.
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy"
Sounds like a primary school where the teachers inspect lunch boxes then chuck out biscuits.
Ask her for a list of acceptable lunches and do as you're told. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely.
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy
Sounds like a primary school where the teachers inspect lunch boxes then chuck out biscuits.
Ask her for a list of acceptable lunches and do as you're told. "
I think you know full well, that is beyond the realms of possibility  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely.
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy
Go have an apple and simmer doon "
I preferred you when you were pissed and flirty  |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely.
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy
Go have an apple and simmer doon
I preferred you when you were pissed and flirty "
Eat me! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Where does it end?
Should it be the position of the Manager (or the company) to determine the diet of its staff?
For context, I am not talking PT type roles. More sales admin / advisor."
4 bags of wotsits and a curly wurly for lunch should do. Oh - and tell them not to watch porn after eating the wotsits - makes your willy orange |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely.
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy"
Do you microwave kippers? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sounds like you're getting water fountains and a weekly fruitbox, can't be all that bad surely.
There are two water points and a water boiler for making brews
No fruit or veg though
There are two bteak rooms but no canteen facilities
We are on an out of town industrial estate with the nearest shop a 10 minute drive
People tend, therefore, to bring their own food in
We have a new manager
She seems to have an issue with the contents of some peoples lunches
I can't help thinking that the (so far) suggestions are merely an extension of her own food regime and an attempted imposition of her values on the workforce
As I said earlier, I think in some respects it isn't a bad idea, but I'm just an arse when it comes to being told what to do, especially by passive aggressive proxy
Sounds like a primary school where the teachers inspect lunch boxes then chuck out biscuits.
Ask her for a list of acceptable lunches and do as you're told.
I think you know full well, that is beyond the realms of possibility "
Make a pact with your work pals to bring in lard sandwiches and cakes every day. Fill Sunny D bottles with water and put one on everyone's desk, and swig them while she's watching.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Worked for a company once that didn't allow crisps or chocolate to be eaten at your desk but did provide free fruit. I thought it was a good thing to be honest, certainly I ate healthier during the day than I do now |
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You can’t dictate anything about lifestyle or diet in work, but they might have exclusions in a contract, I’ve a friend that works offshore and is underweight for many of the annual examinations and they will refuse work if he’s at his lowest but that’s purely for health and safety they offer desk jobs till weight is up again
At my gym I’ve seen an overweight pt but as long as he can do the job it shouldn’t matter
Why are you asking op |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have to fill out a health declaration every six months,it wants to know about hospital stays, treatments, outpatients appointments, previous conditions.
And a leuven scale of foods eaten
And asks how much alchohol consumed in a week.
Quite invasive but, and I don't list half of the stuff. Only stuff which relates to the present.
To quote an American tennis player "" You can't be serious !!"""
Yup they say they use the data to to tailor our health and wellbeing benefits. |
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Ooh I see now - healthy working plans
Have that in my firm too, bike to work and fruit plates and no chocolate digestives 
All they are doing is jumping on the bandwagon it’s ridiculous, chances are they will have staff sitting at a seat all day and they can’t move without getting someone to cover! and that’s quite poor for your health, so bad job for your health, then they tell you you need to be doing more for your health being told to eat better etc , Jesus |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me "
There has been a public health initiative to get companies to promote better food choices at work. This is things like replacing the biscuits at meetings with fruit snacks and getting rid of fizzy drinks machines.
It's never been at the stage of mandating what people choose to bring in and eat for themselves but aimed at what is provided free of charge or subsidised by the employer. And, at asking employers to help with the promotion of healthier eating.
Someone in your company may have had a health scare and is now more evangelical about food.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me
There has been a public health initiative to get companies to promote better food choices at work. This is things like replacing the biscuits at meetings with fruit snacks and getting rid of fizzy drinks machines.
It's never been at the stage of mandating what people choose to bring in and eat for themselves but aimed at what is provided free of charge or subsidised by the employer. And, at asking employers to help with the promotion of healthier eating.
Someone in your company may have had a health scare and is now more evangelical about food.
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We have a new manager
She has been given authority to and, is indeed, making many changes
I haven't been there long (about 8 months) and tbh a lot of the changes are necessary and a strong personality at the helm is what is needed, but following people into the kitchen, remarking on their food choices, bringing same up in Team Leader meetings as 'good practice' and then introducing and documenting it at a disciplinary hearing (not mine, I'm a good boy) is, for me, juuuusst a little too far
I suspect it is a sign of more to come
The next few months should prove interesting |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me
There has been a public health initiative to get companies to promote better food choices at work. This is things like replacing the biscuits at meetings with fruit snacks and getting rid of fizzy drinks machines.
It's never been at the stage of mandating what people choose to bring in and eat for themselves but aimed at what is provided free of charge or subsidised by the employer. And, at asking employers to help with the promotion of healthier eating.
Someone in your company may have had a health scare and is now more evangelical about food.
We have a new manager
She has been given authority to and, is indeed, making many changes
I haven't been there long (about 8 months) and tbh a lot of the changes are necessary and a strong personality at the helm is what is needed, but following people into the kitchen, remarking on their food choices, bringing same up in Team Leader meetings as 'good practice' and then introducing and documenting it at a disciplinary hearing (not mine, I'm a good boy) is, for me, juuuusst a little too far
I suspect it is a sign of more to come
The next few months should prove interesting "
Someone had a disciplinary for eating sweets? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me
There has been a public health initiative to get companies to promote better food choices at work. This is things like replacing the biscuits at meetings with fruit snacks and getting rid of fizzy drinks machines.
It's never been at the stage of mandating what people choose to bring in and eat for themselves but aimed at what is provided free of charge or subsidised by the employer. And, at asking employers to help with the promotion of healthier eating.
Someone in your company may have had a health scare and is now more evangelical about food.
We have a new manager
She has been given authority to and, is indeed, making many changes
I haven't been there long (about 8 months) and tbh a lot of the changes are necessary and a strong personality at the helm is what is needed, but following people into the kitchen, remarking on their food choices, bringing same up in Team Leader meetings as 'good practice' and then introducing and documenting it at a disciplinary hearing (not mine, I'm a good boy) is, for me, juuuusst a little too far
I suspect it is a sign of more to come
The next few months should prove interesting
Someone had a disciplinary for eating sweets? "
No, but he has shown me minutes of his disciplinary where he was 'advised' to change his diet to aid his productivity |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me
There has been a public health initiative to get companies to promote better food choices at work. This is things like replacing the biscuits at meetings with fruit snacks and getting rid of fizzy drinks machines.
It's never been at the stage of mandating what people choose to bring in and eat for themselves but aimed at what is provided free of charge or subsidised by the employer. And, at asking employers to help with the promotion of healthier eating.
Someone in your company may have had a health scare and is now more evangelical about food.
We have a new manager
She has been given authority to and, is indeed, making many changes
I haven't been there long (about 8 months) and tbh a lot of the changes are necessary and a strong personality at the helm is what is needed, but following people into the kitchen, remarking on their food choices, bringing same up in Team Leader meetings as 'good practice' and then introducing and documenting it at a disciplinary hearing (not mine, I'm a good boy) is, for me, juuuusst a little too far
I suspect it is a sign of more to come
The next few months should prove interesting "
Suggestions and comments is taking things beyond management responsibility. You can't discipline someone for their food choices unless it has been agreed in the contract in some way.
She's creating a potential case for a grievance, and possibly more.
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This was an issue for people working on oil rigs in the past. People were over eating on free food and it was affecting how many people could fly in a helicopter.
Perhaps if you were a fireman or a job that required you to be physically fit. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I haven't been there long (about 8 months) and tbh a lot of the changes are necessary and a strong personality at the helm is what is needed, but following people into the kitchen, remarking on their food choices, bringing same up in Team Leader meetings as 'good practice' and then introducing and documenting it at a disciplinary hearing (not mine, I'm a good boy) is, for me, juuuusst a little too far
I suspect it is a sign of more to come
The next few months should prove interesting
Someone had a disciplinary for eating sweets?
No, but he has shown me minutes of his disciplinary where he was 'advised' to change his diet to aid his productivity"
Hmmm, not something I would do, or advise another manager to do. Deal with the productivity issues through means that can be evidenced in work time, not on things that can be challenged.
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"Deprnds if its in your contract"
Absolutely, I’m guessing it’s not, op make sure you always get any of her suggestions or demands in writing, if it’s all by word it’s going to be hersay , I actually see this as bullying you have no need to follow diet plans it’s a personal choice
Send her an email asking for details about this healthy eating plan
If she refuses or just comes in person ask her to to clarify again on email, do not give up ! You basically need evidence regarding what she’s doing
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This was an issue for people working on oil rigs in the past. People were over eating on free food and it was affecting how many people could fly in a helicopter.
Perhaps if you were a fireman or a job that required you to be physically fit. "
Like an old skool mini joke... how many riggers can you fit in a helicopter |
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"What's happening in your workplace that makes you ask the question?
A 'suggestion' (at this point) that we change our diets, both in and out of work, to involve more fruit and vegetables and drink more water to make us more productive
I can kinda see where it's headed, but I also can't help thinking it's a step too far
It doesn't particularly affect me as I have to have a diet that is low in sugar and carbs anyway, I guess it's just bugged me "
It would do more than bug me! Towing the moron dietary line and telling staff who have their own reasons for what they eat is shitty.
They obviously don’t understand how fructose is broken down and stored in the body for a start off.
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