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"i don't buy newspapers anyhoo full of bollux " + 1 | |||
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"Anyone buying that piece of shit 'new' sunday rag?? Anyone want to join in a fab boycott of it?? " So you've had a sneak preview of it? oh to be so priviledged like you. I'll wait until Sunday before buying mine, and then, and only after I've read it to see if it's any good, I'll tell the newsagent to put my copy aside each Sunday so I'll never miss it. | |||
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"I don't normally buy papers apart from the local rag. Coming from the Liverpool area, I would not buy anything to do with that paper which isn't even worthy enough to be put at the bottom of the cat litter tray. I hope that it is a complete failure " | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest." it makes you anti-s*n on any day of the week | |||
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"Anyone buying that piece of shit 'new' sunday rag?? Anyone want to join in a fab boycott of it?? " ha..was only thinking last night id love to see a national boycott...ill be boycotting it anyway... | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest." Its from Hillsborough, Merseyside is anti-Sun. | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest. Its from Hillsborough, Merseyside is anti-Sun." Thank you - I thought everyone knew how merseysider's felt about the Sun. Although there are still a lot of sales by people who really couldn't give a toss. | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest. Its from Hillsborough, Merseyside is anti-Sun." for those of us not in the know please elaborate as i do not know what they did during that time that was wrong (thats genuine not provoctive i promise) | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest. Its from Hillsborough, Merseyside is anti-Sun." It comes from a boycot following hilsborough, when The Sun wrote pieces saying that Liverpool fans were stealing from and pissing on the dead...... As for the policicians, who do you think has created the situation where ideology (the driving force for friction and progress) is frowned upon by all? That's right, the Media. Who owns most of the media (as in has the largest media holdings....)? That's right, Murdoch. It's no coincidence that successive governments have sucked up to him, his papers are aimed at the lowest comond denominator and are all comment, no news. | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest. Its from Hillsborough, Merseyside is anti-Sun. It comes from a boycot following hilsborough, when The Sun wrote pieces saying that Liverpool fans were stealing from and pissing on the dead...... As for the policicians, who do you think has created the situation where ideology (the driving force for friction and progress) is frowned upon by all? That's right, the Media. Who owns most of the media (as in has the largest media holdings....)? That's right, Murdoch. It's no coincidence that successive governments have sucked up to him, his papers are aimed at the lowest comond denominator and are all comment, no news." ahhh right i see, well thats understandable then. thankyou for explaining | |||
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"ahhh right i see, well thats understandable then. thankyou for explaining" You are welcome..... I do often wish I was pushy enough to explain it to the idiot students in liverpool I see reading the rag, but I am not that much of a bossy git... | |||
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"ahhh right i see, well thats understandable then. thankyou for explaining You are welcome..... I do often wish I was pushy enough to explain it to the idiot students in liverpool I see reading the rag, but I am not that much of a bossy git..." students reading redtops?? they should be reading the socialist worker or at the very least the grauniad | |||
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"ahhh right i see, well thats understandable then. thankyou for explaining You are welcome..... I do often wish I was pushy enough to explain it to the idiot students in liverpool I see reading the rag, but I am not that much of a bossy git... students reading redtops?? they should be reading the socialist worker or at the very least the grauniad " Political apathy has reached very deep into our society, i'm afraid.... | |||
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"A Fab boycott......that'll really hurt the sales of this new publication. Get real " get real?? take it you read the scum then?? even if one more person is 'enlightened' against buying it then that'll do for me. seems a lot of people dont know why people from liverpool are so angry about this particular rag, so hopefully this thread might help the cause. | |||
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"Actually I don't read the Sun.....but if you are deluded enough to think a boycott of the paper on a Swingers website will make any difference to their sales then go with it.... Incidentally.....do the people of Liverpool really have the courage of their convictions enough to boycott EVERYTHING to do with the Sun's owners? Only there seems to be an awful lot of SKY subscribers in the city of Liverpool....and it's increasing." i largely agree but yet disagree....a few members from here wont hurt murdoch bottom line, but people who feel strongly enough should boycott it on the courage of their own conscience knowing that they in part didnt contribute to the wealth of murdochs ill gotton media empire. as for people just boycotting the sun cause they dont agree with murdochs ethics yet still subscribe to sky etc....i agree, i dont subscribe to sky and woulnt wipe my dogs arse with any of his publications. | |||
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"There is no way we will be buying the 'new' sun on Sunday as it'll be full as the same kind of s#it that is churned out every day by the sun, why not buy a decent news paper & learn what going on in world rather than reading about what lame ass soap star is sleeping with another lame ass football player !!! Only one way to sort it out ............... Fight !!!! " Decent newspaper? Is there such a thing? | |||
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"The sun sales went waydown when Liverpool boycotted it, and I might add with very good reason. They did try and issue an apology years later but only obviously with the sales of their paper in mind. What people did about Sky etc is up to them, but unless you were there at the time you won't know the level of disgust there was towards The Sun. To the OP...I won't be buying it anyway as I didn't used to buy the News of the screws either." | |||
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"The people of Liverpool quite rightly to a stand against the sun newspaper and that is good enough for me and maybe rather than question them maybe you should support them in the way they feel about the way their city & Liverpool supporter were portrayed by the sun newspaper." | |||
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"There is no way we will be buying the 'new' sun on Sunday as it'll be full as the same kind of s#it that is churned out every day by the sun, why not buy a decent news paper & learn what going on in world rather than reading about what lame ass soap star is sleeping with another lame ass football player !!! Only one way to sort it out ............... Fight !!!! Decent newspaper? Is there such a thing? " The gardian is a good newspaper and, to be fair, so is the Times (though it is a very Tabloidy...) The I is also quite good. The thing with papers is, if they are loosing money then they tend to be quality. Murdoch uses the Sun to subsidise the Times, so he's not all bad..... | |||
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"I think their anger was towards the paper itself and it has proved they had an effect. " Out of interest what was the effect ? | |||
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"Anyone buying that piece of shit 'new' sunday rag?? Anyone want to join in a fab boycott of it?? " nope. | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest. Its from Hillsborough, Merseyside is anti-Sun." Rightly so. Most are against buying the sun,but not all are above reading it. | |||
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"I used to buy the news of the world for the football coverage. I will be buying the paper on Sunday, and i'll my form own opinions. Interesting point about people in Liverpool not buying the sun, but subscribing to sky. Never thought about it like that." thats true for me too. have foud other sunday papers port coverage to be rather substandard, to be kind. the NoTW coverage was brilliant and i for one will be buying the new publication, to read the secand half of the paper. once i reach the middle it usually sits in my work bag until i find a bin. | |||
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"There is no way we will be buying the 'new' sun on Sunday as it'll be full as the same kind of s#it that is churned out every day by the sun, why not buy a decent news paper & learn what going on in world rather than reading about what lame ass soap star is sleeping with another lame ass football player !!! Only one way to sort it out ............... Fight !!!! Decent newspaper? Is there such a thing? The gardian is a good newspaper and, to be fair, so is the Times (though it is a very Tabloidy...) The I is also quite good. The thing with papers is, if they are loosing money then they tend to be quality. Murdoch uses the Sun to subsidise the Times, so he's not all bad....." See now I feel they are all just as bad they all put their own slant on the news dependant of what their own political stand is I toyed with giving the I a go but haven't got round to it yet I like to be informed but its hard to keep up with the world when your feeling disillusioned with the media machine | |||
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"A Fab boycott......that'll really hurt the sales of this new publication. Get real " "Get real" an Americanism which I am told by a colleague in Media Studies, is most commonly found in The Sun and it's like. | |||
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"A Fab boycott......that'll really hurt the sales of this new publication. Get real "Get real" an Americanism which I am told by a colleague in Media Studies, is most commonly found in The Sun and it's like. " Don't know about 'Get Real'.....more like 'Get you'... You really act like you think you are better than everyone else on here...why bother using the forums if all you ever do is follow people around jumping on their posts?....talk about thinking your shit don't smell. | |||
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"A Fab boycott......that'll really hurt the sales of this new publication. Get real "Get real" an Americanism which I am told by a colleague in Media Studies, is most commonly found in The Sun and it's like. Don't know about 'Get Real'.....more like 'Get you'... You really act like you think you are better than everyone else on here...why bother using the forums if all you ever do is follow people around jumping on their posts?....talk about thinking your shit don't smell." Now now children play nicely | |||
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"The Sun ; written by people who can't write, for people who can't read. " Only non-Sun readers can respond to this post then? Ignorant statements are written by ignorant people for nobody in particular but themselves. | |||
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"i don't buy newspapers anyhoo full of bollux " | |||
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"Yep ill buy it I miss the news of the world As for the politics behind it I have to live in a country run by a load of muppets that screw the country everyday Tap peoples phones Dont tax their mates enough Shag us more than Murdock ever will Price us all into poverty etc So in comparison buying a newspaper to pass the time pales in comparison really xx " wise words, better to know the peeps you have to live with I guess. Won't be reading it mesl though. | |||
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"I think their anger was towards the paper itself and it has proved they had an effect. Out of interest what was the effect ?" They lost revenue by the loss of sales. | |||
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" Now now children play nicely " ^^^ what she said. | |||
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"A Fab boycott......that'll really hurt the sales of this new publication. Get real "Get real" an Americanism which I am told by a colleague in Media Studies, is most commonly found in The Sun and it's like. Don't know about 'Get Real'.....more like 'Get you'... You really act like you think you are better than everyone else on here...why bother using the forums if all you ever do is follow people around jumping on their posts?....talk about thinking your shit don't smell." wow!, looks like the ladies have been hitting the gin bottle at lunchtime eh? | |||
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"Anyone buying that piece of shit 'new' sunday rag?? Anyone want to join in a fab boycott of it?? " I toatally agree with you some people still have principles if not certain posters on this subject | |||
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"Murdoch's empire also own 20th Century Fox Television, so I assume all the anti-News International ignorant ill-informed Murdoch haters won't be watching any films made by 20th Centroy Fox either huh? Like it or not, Murdoch touches everyone's life on the PLANET in some way or another and to evade his reach you'd have to go and live on an undiscovered island somewhere, or Antarctica." I don't frequent McDonalds for various reasons but I do use Prets. There's no real connection between the two despite the fact that McDonalds bought 33% of Prets. If I over anylysed everything I'd be naked and starving. There's certain companies (nike and apple spring to mind )that I won't give money to. If something is brought to my attention and I don't agree with it I'll boycott the company but I can't do research into everything I buy. As for the Sunday Sun,it appears to be a direct replacement for the NOTW,a paper I always bought until the Milly Dowler story broke. So I won't be buying it this week or any week | |||
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"Yep ill buy it I miss the news of the world As for the politics behind it I have to live in a country run by a load of muppets that screw the country everyday Tap peoples phones Dont tax their mates enough Shag us more than Murdock ever will Price us all into poverty etc So in comparison buying a newspaper to pass the time pales in comparison really xx " soapy dont worry not for long more and more people are thinking like people like us and it will be the downfall of the goverment very very soon :D. but what do we do some1 has to take the place because the royality of this country are nothing but money makers they have no control of say of this country and because of this the country will never be what it could be ( we need a proper royal family to take charge of the country ) | |||
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"Oh come on,Fab has gotta be better reading than any tabloid any day. " +1 theres deffo more drama on here, and its up to the minute drama too | |||
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"Yep ill buy it I miss the news of the world As for the politics behind it I have to live in a country run by a load of muppets that screw the country everyday Tap peoples phones Dont tax their mates enough Shag us more than Murdock ever will Price us all into poverty etc So in comparison buying a newspaper to pass the time pales in comparison really xx soapy dont worry not for long more and more people are thinking like people like us and it will be the downfall of the goverment very very soon :D. but what do we do some1 has to take the place because the royality of this country are nothing but money makers they have no control of say of this country and because of this the country will never be what it could be ( we need a proper royal family to take charge of the country ) " If ever there was an example of not allowing people under a certain IQ to vote you would be that example. Wtf is a 'proper' royal family if the one we have now isn't? (bearing in mind that the unbroken line of succession has endured for nearly 400 years). Are you saying we should have a royal family to autocratic power to do as they please, an Emperor perhaps? | |||
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"Yep ill buy it I miss the news of the world As for the politics behind it I have to live in a country run by a load of muppets that screw the country everyday Tap peoples phones Dont tax their mates enough Shag us more than Murdock ever will Price us all into poverty etc So in comparison buying a newspaper to pass the time pales in comparison really xx " Here Here | |||
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"Yes, I'll buy it too, and maybe for the first month or so, just to see if it's any good. I only buy the Sunday rags for the football and sports reports and always read them from the back, lol " That's pretty much what I used to by NOTW for. Siren's first question when I told her about the Sun on Sunday was, "is the Fab mag moving to Sunday too?" so no second prizes where her interests lie lol | |||
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"Yep ill buy it I miss the news of the world As for the politics behind it I have to live in a country run by a load of muppets that screw the country everyday Tap peoples phones Dont tax their mates enough Shag us more than Murdock ever will Price us all into poverty etc So in comparison buying a newspaper to pass the time pales in comparison really xx soapy dont worry not for long more and more people are thinking like people like us and it will be the downfall of the goverment very very soon :D. but what do we do some1 has to take the place because the royality of this country are nothing but money makers they have no control of say of this country and because of this the country will never be what it could be ( we need a proper royal family to take charge of the country ) If ever there was an example of not allowing people under a certain IQ to vote you would be that example. Wtf is a 'proper' royal family if the one we have now isn't? (bearing in mind that the unbroken line of succession has endured for nearly 400 years). Are you saying we should have a royal family to autocratic power to do as they please, an Emperor perhaps? " would like to inform you of the fact my IQ is actually above the uk average. and it is my opinion. at the end of the day the country is falling to ruins and has been for the past 10 years or so because of the judgements made my our so called government over the last 10 years we have seen tax rise, unemployment levels to make you sick, family's struggling to make ends meet because of inflation, we have lost a lot of good men that are fighting for a country that is not doing anything to protect themselves and seem to only be out doing everything they can to line their pockets. and yet we are on the brink of the second ressesion in 10 years now i may only be young but dont let this fool you i do understand politics and atm i refuse to vote because what i have seen over my short lifetime . is lies after lies after lies and it makes no odds what policies you vote for they always seem to disappear in the pipe lines some where . no im not a royalist i dont agree with the royal family as it stands atm i dont think its strong enough to run the country the only really respect i have for the royal family is for the princes (wWilliam reminds me of the old Arthurian legend) a man that will stand by his men and fight for what he believes in. rant over this is my opinions anyway everyone has the right to express them. | |||
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"Yep ill buy it I miss the news of the world As for the politics behind it I have to live in a country run by a load of muppets that screw the country everyday Tap peoples phones Dont tax their mates enough Shag us more than Murdock ever will Price us all into poverty etc So in comparison buying a newspaper to pass the time pales in comparison really xx soapy dont worry not for long more and more people are thinking like people like us and it will be the downfall of the goverment very very soon :D. but what do we do some1 has to take the place because the royality of this country are nothing but money makers they have no control of say of this country and because of this the country will never be what it could be ( we need a proper royal family to take charge of the country ) If ever there was an example of not allowing people under a certain IQ to vote you would be that example. Wtf is a 'proper' royal family if the one we have now isn't? (bearing in mind that the unbroken line of succession has endured for nearly 400 years). Are you saying we should have a royal family to autocratic power to do as they please, an Emperor perhaps? would like to inform you of the fact my IQ is actually above the uk average. and it is my opinion. at the end of the day the country is falling to ruins and has been for the past 10 years or so because of the judgements made my our so called government over the last 10 years we have seen tax rise, unemployment levels to make you sick, family's struggling to make ends meet because of inflation, we have lost a lot of good men that are fighting for a country that is not doing anything to protect themselves and seem to only be out doing everything they can to line their pockets. and yet we are on the brink of the second ressesion in 10 years now i may only be young but dont let this fool you i do understand politics and atm i refuse to vote because what i have seen over my short lifetime . is lies after lies after lies and it makes no odds what policies you vote for they always seem to disappear in the pipe lines some where . no im not a royalist i dont agree with the royal family as it stands atm i dont think its strong enough to run the country the only really respect i have for the royal family is for the princes (wWilliam reminds me of the old Arthurian legend) a man that will stand by his men and fight for what he believes in. rant over this is my opinions anyway everyone has the right to express them." Their is a serious flaw in the logic of making a stand against politics by not voting... I fail to see what a ruling Royal Family would achieve - other than a dictatorship. A government should be elected and a country should not be ruled by virtue of parentage. | |||
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"Typical...the sun gets mentioned and a scoucer pipes up and starts quoting hilsborough Liverpool should get over it....The sun that is Do I not fly because of Munich of course I don't...... How the hell can you compare a paper making up a load of lies about fans robbing the dead and an earoplane accident,the sun or NOTW 2 is welcome to readers like you you probably typify them anyway. Come back when you are famous...as really you stopped being that in late 80s" | |||
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"Typical...the sun gets mentioned and a scoucer pipes up and starts quoting hilsborough Liverpool should get over it....The sun that is Do I not fly because of Munich of course I don't...... Come back when you are famous...as really you stopped being that in late 80s" Maybe if you had lost someone there you would think differently, added to that the lies and deceptive shenanigans that went on by the powers that were at the sun to that mix...you may feel differently ? | |||
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"Wouldnt be too bothered about those 2 comments ste as the 2 posters are typical of sun readers and cant help themselves its halfwit sickos loke these that cant think for themselves the sun aims for " | |||
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"I used to buy the news of the world for the football coverage. I will be buying the paper on Sunday, and i'll my form own opinions. Interesting point about people in Liverpool not buying the sun, but subscribing to sky. Never thought about it like that." Tad sad quoting yourself, but to add what I said earlier, does Liverpool football club not accept Sky's tv money ? So they refuse to buy the paper, but have sky and the football club happily accepts money of Murdoch ? | |||
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"Typical...the sun gets mentioned and a scoucer pipes up and starts quoting hilsborough Liverpool should get over it....The sun that is Do I not fly because of Munich of course I don't...... Come back when you are famous...as really you stopped being that in late 80s" Don't see what the last line had to do with anything,its just the usual man u bollocks.. as for the rest of your post,wow! that's really fucking offensive.how old are you? 12? | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused." ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though?" It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic." Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it." What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that. | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that." Then don't read it!.....anyone would think it was compulsory to read it the way some people go on. Freedom of choice.....a bit like the freedom of choice to swing. | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that. Then don't read it!.....anyone would think it was compulsory to read it the way some people go on. Freedom of choice.....a bit like the freedom of choice to swing." I don't and I wont read it because I chose not to. It's still a comic though and a poor one. | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it." To be fair there's not a single person on this thread who suggested to boycott murdoch per se. The only people who are labouring the point is the ones saying 'go on i dare ya to' I don't have a problem with Murdoch himself,I have a problem with a newspaper that thought it was acceptable to hack into a dead childs phone. Its that simple. It people think I'm a hypocrite because I watch the football on Sky or watch Family guy,firstly I'd disagree and secondly I'd attempt to quantify the size of the fuck I don't give | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that. Then don't read it!.....anyone would think it was compulsory to read it the way some people go on. Freedom of choice.....a bit like the freedom of choice to swing. I don't and I wont read it because I chose not to. It's still a comic though and a poor one. " Then respect the right of others to read what they choose to read without preaching to them.... | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that." Phone hacking is endemic across the entire newspaper industry. ""Phone hacking appeared to be a "bog-standard journalistic tool" for gathering information, a former Daily Mirror financial reporter has said. James Hipwell, who was jailed in 2006 for writing about firms whose shares he owned, said he witnessed repeated privacy infringements at the paper. He told the Leveson Inquiry into media ethics that he overheard showbiz journalists openly talking about it." " Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16283935 | |||
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"I have a problem with a newspaper that thought it was acceptable to hack into a dead childs phone. " Murdoch shut the paper down when he discovered what had happened. Some people may think it was an altruistic manipulated endeavour by the man himself to curry favour but if you'd seen him at the inquiry you'd have seen how utterly dismayed he was by some of the practices that had been uncovered. Sure he's a newspaper man and he knows reporters cross the lines sometimes to get a story, but even he didn't believe that some of them would be so callous as to hack what was then a child's phone, a child whom the entire UK was on the lookout for. I don't believe for one minute that even Murdoch was party to it, or would have sanctioned it as he knew the ramifications of what would have to happen if it was ever discovered - as proven by his closing of his own newspaper. | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that. Then don't read it!.....anyone would think it was compulsory to read it the way some people go on. Freedom of choice.....a bit like the freedom of choice to swing. I don't and I wont read it because I chose not to. It's still a comic though and a poor one. Then respect the right of others to read what they choose to read without preaching to them.... " Respect peoples right to chose? and you said earlier on this thread "you are deluded enough to think a boycott of the paper on a Swingers website will make any difference" Pot, kettle, black respect? The thread was started by the OP trying to get people to boycott the comic in question, now ask your self this question. Did you respect his right to boycott the comic in question? | |||
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"I have a problem with a newspaper that thought it was acceptable to hack into a dead childs phone. Murdoch shut the paper down when he discovered what had happened. Some people may think it was an altruistic manipulated endeavour by the man himself to curry favour but if you'd seen him at the inquiry you'd have seen how utterly dismayed he was by some of the practices that had been uncovered. Sure he's a newspaper man and he knows reporters cross the lines sometimes to get a story, but even he didn't believe that some of them would be so callous as to hack what was then a child's phone, a child whom the entire UK was on the lookout for. I don't believe for one minute that even Murdoch was party to it, or would have sanctioned it as he knew the ramifications of what would have to happen if it was ever discovered - as proven by his closing of his own newspaper." I don't think he knew about it either and I note the Dowlers acceptance of his profound apologies. I'm not telling anyone not to read the new paper. I've just made a decision not to read it myself. For some maybe it's too soon to publish what looks on the face of it NOTW II | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that. Then don't read it!.....anyone would think it was compulsory to read it the way some people go on. Freedom of choice.....a bit like the freedom of choice to swing. I don't and I wont read it because I chose not to. It's still a comic though and a poor one. Then respect the right of others to read what they choose to read without preaching to them.... Respect peoples right to chose? and you said earlier on this thread "you are deluded enough to think a boycott of the paper on a Swingers website will make any difference" Pot, kettle, black respect? The thread was started by the OP trying to get people to boycott the comic in question, now ask your self this question. Did you respect his right to boycott the comic in question? " I don't approve of control....be it from government, media, silly internet pressure groups, or individuals on a swingers site.... People should worry about themselves and their own convictions....not meddle with the rights of choice of others. But some people are not happy with deciding for themselves....they want to decide for others...or tell them what to read or watch on TV. If someone thinks strongly enough about the comments from The Sun on Hillsborough...then don't ever buy the paper again, if someone feels strongly enough about phone hacking then don't buy a particular paper again.... But telling others what they should be reading and what they should be boycotting?.....Control | |||
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"Isn't it false advertising calling The Sun a newspaper? A comic at best with lots of pictures to entertain the easily amused. ..and so you exercise your right not to read it. Why put down others that do read it though? It hardly qualify's as a serious newspaper. If you are fool enough to buy it and support a man who has manipulated our politicians, police force and government then enjoy your comic. Show me an editor of any newspaper who isn't influenced by a potential knighthood sometime later in his/her life, or switch political allegiances based upon what's good for his/her circulation figures. They all court the politicians as much as the politicans court the media. But let's see how you get on with your boycott of anything to do with Murdoch. Go on, I dare you. Anything that has his hands on it I dare you not to touch, for a year. You won't last a week, even without realising it. What are you on about! You pick up on one part of what i said and conveniently avoid the police bribes corruption not to mention legal cases pending. Its a comic, and a poor one at that. Then don't read it!.....anyone would think it was compulsory to read it the way some people go on. Freedom of choice.....a bit like the freedom of choice to swing. I don't and I wont read it because I chose not to. It's still a comic though and a poor one. Then respect the right of others to read what they choose to read without preaching to them.... Respect peoples right to chose? and you said earlier on this thread "you are deluded enough to think a boycott of the paper on a Swingers website will make any difference" Pot, kettle, black respect? The thread was started by the OP trying to get people to boycott the comic in question, now ask your self this question. Did you respect his right to boycott the comic in question? I don't approve of control....be it from government, media, silly internet pressure groups, or individuals on a swingers site.... People should worry about themselves and their own convictions....not meddle with the rights of choice of others. But some people are not happy with deciding for themselves....they want to decide for others...or tell them what to read or watch on TV. If someone thinks strongly enough about the comments from The Sun on Hillsborough...then don't ever buy the paper again, if someone feels strongly enough about phone hacking then don't buy a particular paper again.... But telling others what they should be reading and what they should be boycotting?.....Control" I wouldn't disagree with what you have said there but also if someone wants to encourage people to boycott then that's not wrong either. I just struggle to see it as a serious newspaper. I have more concerns with the actions of the parent group but that is for another thread. | |||
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"How does coming from Liverpool make one anti-Sun on Sunday? I'll be watching the merseyside sales figures for the new paper with interest. Its from Hillsborough, Merseyside is anti-Sun. for those of us not in the know please elaborate as i do not know what they did during that time that was wrong (thats genuine not provoctive i promise)" "D*unken Liverpool fans viciously attacked rescue workers as they tried to revive victims of the Hillsborough soccer disaster, it was revealed last night. "Police officers, firemen and ambulance crew were punched, kicked and urinated upon by a hooligan element in the crowd. "Some thugs rifled the pockets of injured fans as they were stretched out unconscious on the pitch. "Sheffield MP Irvine Patnick revealed that in one shameful episode a gang of Liverpool fans noticed that the blouse of a girl trampled to death had risen above her breasts. "As a policeman struggled in vain to revive her, the mob jeered: 'Throw her up here and we will **** her'" The story went on: "One furious policeman who witnessed Saturday's carnage stormed: 'As we struggled in appalling conditions to save lives, fans standing further up the terrace were openly urinating on us and the bodies of the dead." A 'high-ranking' police officer was quoted as saying: "The fans were just acting like animals. My men faced a double hell - the disaster and the fury of the fans who attacked us." --------------------------------- The S*n printed that under the headline "The Truth". Vile rag. | |||
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"why did they print that story, if it wss true the should of printed it, i wasnt there thank god so i dont know if its true or not. i cant believe it was true due to the depravity involved. if it was true there would of been hundreds of witnesses verifying it," I think it'll be tucked firmly away in the 'Marilyn Monroe Was She Murdered or Commit Suicide' box of conspiracies and nobody will ever know the full truth of what happened that day as there will always be differing stories from those that were there and saw different things, and those that weren't there and yet still saw different things. I'd wage that if all the people who have claimed to be there were gathered in one place at the same time they would fill Hillsborough three times over. | |||
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"Why are people still getting so upset about the inaccuracies murdock's paper printed? !!!!!!" Because many families lost children / brothers/ fathers/ daughters etc etc and their name was dragged through the mud by blatent lies....all of which were apolgised for years later by the Sun because their sales had gone down in Liverpool. Headlines like the above will be remembered by a lot of people affected for a long while and I can understand why. | |||
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"why did they print that story, if it wss true the should of printed it, i wasnt there thank god so i dont know if its true or not. i cant believe it was true due to the depravity involved. if it was true there would of been hundreds of witnesses verifying it," It was a smear campaign to pass off the tragedy as hooliganism to cover the failings of the police, ambulance etc. Thats why there is still anger becuase them lies still influence peoples opinion and people who comment on it don't know what they are talking about 95% of the time. | |||
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"The Sun a labour paper?. The Sun was always a Tory rag and only fooled the foolish." check your facts again chum. | |||
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"The Sun a labour paper?. The Sun was always a Tory rag and only fooled the foolish. check your facts again chum." Sorry Wishy... I only "look" at the red tops... But I used to think that the Sun was a factory workers paper (for example) until a chief surgeon corrected me... So, tits asside, which is more correct... | |||
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"I know my facts chum they hid behind the facade of NEW Labour supporters for a short while. Dont try and kid that the Sun was ever anything but Tory at heart." I bet you never said that out loud between the years of 1997-2010 | |||
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"Why are people still getting so upset about the inaccuracies murdock's paper printed? It was 20+ yrs ago! Its hardly the first time tabloid newspapers have printed made up stories! And if you're only going to attack 'The Sun' and think the other papers are whiter than white then your sadly very deluded!!!! Ok, Murdock is now being shown for the amoral manipulator he really is. And I hope the enquiries into phone hacking are the downfall of his vast empire. But i bet anyone, the next generation of kids now have never heard of Hillsborough, or know about 'The Sun' headlines at the time. Its sad it happened, but its now history, and will be forgotten by a great many people in this country!! To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!!" | |||
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"when you have waited all day to find out if family members are safe and well after such a tradegy and then read the shite printed by the ' the popular press ' then your view is some what cloudy - never bought the scum or any of it's related papers - my own choice i know x" Well said. Guess some have never nor went through that at all x | |||
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"As far as I am concerned it has naff all to do with Murdoch, my main problem has to do with that thing McKenzie (I wouldnt even spit on him if he was on fire, nor the thing that wrote the lies about that day to defend the people who were at fault and it had nothing to do with hooliganism) for publishing absolute lies about Hilsborough and Liverpool fans. As for those who have said 'Liverpool, get over it' imagine if it was your son, daughter, cousin or friend who was there that awful day and accused of pissing or robbing your fellow fans or someone who tried to rescue your loved one. Saying 'get over it' is down right disrespectful and has no understanding of the power of the press. Saying 'get over it' to people who lost someone close to them is like me saying who gives a fuck about someone close to them dying. Try showing some respect! It hasnt anything to do with where I come from but has a lot to do with how me and mine were affected, so for those who tell Scousers and Liverpool fans to 'get over it' kiss my fkin arse you nasty insensitive individuals. 96 people died from that fateful day all those years ago and as a football fan every single person should feel some remorse and want justice hence the new debates in the house of commons. So try and think bnefore you post 'get over it' as I am sure you wouldn't 'get over it' if it had been someone you knew who was there that day and had lies or had their child's death altered in a witness statement by a police officer who was told to alter their statement. So just think before you type please! Innocent people (including kids) died and were accused of pissing and robbing the dead. " | |||
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"People from Liverpool will be locking themselves at home soon and buying nothing and eating nothing in protest at something or other. My God the world has it in for Liverpool. The Sun - owned by Murdoch - false stories about Hillsborough. Boycott all Murdoch businesses. Anything French Lying French Man Utd player Boycott Subway (baguettes) and French wine. Shall we continue back in time?............ Toxteth riots, German bombing in WW2, Irish settlers, Viking invasions? This simply purports the myth that all Liverpool suffers friom "victim" syndrome and they simply don't. Aside from the few idiots who always seem to get the attention for making claims like this. " Sometimes it feels like Liverpool expect the whole world to owe them something just for inflicting us with The feckin Beatles. Gee, ta Liverpool, thanks for that. Not. | |||
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"As far as I am concerned it has naff all to do with Murdoch, my main problem has to do with that thing McKenzie (I wouldnt even spit on him if he was on fire, nor the thing that wrote the lies about that day to defend the people who were at fault and it had nothing to do with hooliganism) for publishing absolute lies about Hilsborough and Liverpool fans. As for those who have said 'Liverpool, get over it' imagine if it was your son, daughter, cousin or friend who was there that awful day and accused of pissing or robbing your fellow fans or someone who tried to rescue your loved one. Saying 'get over it' is down right disrespectful and has no understanding of the power of the press. Saying 'get over it' to people who lost someone close to them is like me saying who gives a fuck about someone close to them dying. Try showing some respect! It hasnt anything to do with where I come from but has a lot to do with how me and mine were affected, so for those who tell Scousers and Liverpool fans to 'get over it' kiss my fkin arse you nasty insensitive individuals. 96 people died from that fateful day all those years ago and as a football fan every single person should feel some remorse and want justice hence the new debates in the house of commons. So try and think bnefore you post 'get over it' as I am sure you wouldn't 'get over it' if it had been someone you knew who was there that day and had lies or had their child's death altered in a witness statement by a police officer who was told to alter their statement. So just think before you type please! Innocent people (including kids) died and were accused of pissing and robbing the dead. " Not a fan of football at all but I can remember that day, a terrible tragedy and certainly not to be taken the piss out of by anyone, incredibly disrespectful to those who died and those still suffering | |||
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" To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!! " What a sad and nasty thing to say, and to agree with it is both pathetic and small minded imho.. | |||
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"ok, so some really interesting points have been made (with a little bit of bitching threw in for good measure!) i understand how far and wide the murcock empire goes (non sky subscriber here btw, virgin all the way!!) but my op was specifically posted towards the new s*n, tabloids can kiss my fat arse for all i care, all full of stupid 'celeb shagging celeb' stories, i'd much rather read the local paper which has got my local news in it, and catch up with any other news on the telly. the s*n has basically shit on soooooo many people over the years, the worst im my eyes being the coverage of hillsborough. i was only young at the time and i lost an uncle who i was very close too, and might aswell have lost another due to the impact it had on him seeing what happened to his brother, and for them cheeky stinkin dirty rotten fuckwit gobshites at the s*n to slag scousers so publically and without reason or proof was a disgrace that no amount of apologies will ever fix." I'm with him,! I have never bought the sun, notw, or the times since then, this was backed for me after the sun then went on to wreck the IRA docklands bomb trial (which nearly got me) by publishing material which affected the fairness of the trial. Those two bastards got off because of it. As for one man having too much media control, Mr Murdoch is that man. So all in all boycotting anything news international is a good thing. But that's just my opinion. | |||
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" To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!! What a sad and nasty thing to say, and to agree with it is both pathetic and small minded imho.. Can you expect anything else from Sun readers when you know the type of perrson it is aimed at. " | |||
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" To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!! What a sad and nasty thing to say, and to agree with it is both pathetic and small minded imho.. Can you expect anything else from Sun readers when you know the type of perrson it is aimed at. " Newspaper snobbery isn't attractive. | |||
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"Yep ill buy it I miss the news of the world As for the politics behind it I have to live in a country run by a load of muppets that screw the country everyday Tap peoples phones Dont tax their mates enough Shag us more than Murdock ever will Price us all into poverty etc So in comparison buying a newspaper to pass the time pales in comparison really xx " but they said we're all in this together | |||
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" To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!! What a sad and nasty thing to say, and to agree with it is both pathetic and small minded imho.. Can you expect anything else from Sun readers when you know the type of perrson it is aimed at. Newspaper snobbery isn't attractive. " Not snooby in the least about newspapers I stopped buying them long ago when I was old enough to think for myself and realise how much they influence and manipulate. | |||
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" nothing would surprise me anymore about unscrupulous journalists looking for a scoop. What The Sun did wrong was print it without verifying it's accuracy. " We might 'get over it' as that sensitive soul put it if it didn't keep on happening. They really don't care about their mistakes, just the money they are going to make. Otherwise why would it keep happening. Sure it's possible that the alleged witness got it wrong, but just very unlikely. From bad experience most of us know It's the relentless pursuit of readers and from them profit that repeatedly causes the editors to take short cuts. Hence the reason we are in the middle of yet another scandel. Do you believe a proven liar or do you ignore him? Me I choose the latter. | |||
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" To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!! What a sad and nasty thing to say, and to agree with it is both pathetic and small minded imho.. Can you expect anything else from Sun readers when you know the type of perrson it is aimed at. Newspaper snobbery isn't attractive. " agreed, or a lack of compassion for people.. | |||
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" To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!! What a sad and nasty thing to say, and to agree with it is both pathetic and small minded imho.. Can you expect anything else from Sun readers when you know the type of perrson it is aimed at. Newspaper snobbery isn't attractive. Not snooby in the least about newspapers I stopped buying them long ago when I was old enough to think for myself and realise how much they influence and manipulate." From that one can assume you've stopped voting also. | |||
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" To the Op.....Get over it!!!!!! What a sad and nasty thing to say, and to agree with it is both pathetic and small minded imho.. Can you expect anything else from Sun readers when you know the type of perrson it is aimed at. Newspaper snobbery isn't attractive. agreed, or a lack of compassion for people.. " We are agreed actually. The poster who told the OP to 'get over it' was being insensitive. I happen to know he is a Man Utd supporter and given the fierce rivalry between the two clubs some tend to take it too far. | |||
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"Ok, as this post seems to keep running and running. Can i just say a big apology to the people who actually DID lose people in the Hillsborough disaster. My comment 'get over it' wasnt meant to be directed at the fact of losing loved ones. But at the op ranting about murdock and a tabloid newspaper article that was printed over 20yrs ago. so, sorry i came across as insensitive about people dying, it wasnt my intention. ps im not a man u fan either!! " You did say 'get over it' but you weren't the first to say it on this thread. MikeC said it quite a few posts above yours, and he IS a Man Utd fan. | |||
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"Ok, as this post seems to keep running and running. Can i just say a big apology to the people who actually DID lose people in the Hillsborough disaster. My comment 'get over it' wasnt meant to be directed at the fact of losing loved ones. But at the op ranting about murdock and a tabloid newspaper article that was printed over 20yrs ago. so, sorry i came across as insensitive about people dying, it wasnt my intention. ps im not a man u fan either!! You did say 'get over it' but you weren't the first to say it on this thread. MikeC said it quite a few posts above yours, and he IS a Man Utd fan." I missed that wishy! ta! x | |||
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"with regards to the hillsborough part of the conversation.... the owners of the sun have apologised with regards to the stories in 2004.... so only took them 15 years to see the error of their ways.... maybe the biggest indicator is that the then editor, kelvin mackenzie, has never apologised for it, and has said that he never will.... it is and will always be "classic smear"...." yes id happily shove a speculum up his ass | |||
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"A Fab boycott......that'll really hurt the sales of this new publication. Get real "Get real" an Americanism which I am told by a colleague in Media Studies, is most commonly found in The Sun and it's like. Don't know about 'Get Real'.....more like 'Get you'... You really act like you think you are better than everyone else on here...why bother using the forums if all you ever do is follow people around jumping on their posts?....talk about thinking your shit don't smell." +1! | |||
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