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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!

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By *tingly ByronMan over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!"

I have a friend who's straight but has dabbled with the lady love, only when "in the moment".

She says she's a spaghetti lesbian, straight till wet.

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By *uciyassMan over a year ago

sheffield

Lmao. But fab straight men aren’t bi. They are real men who know what they want but don’t want the ladies to know what they like in case the ladies say no no no to sexi times

I’m bi and proud. Own up you nuggets

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!"

Hmm. This is a tricky one. Depends on what the person involved identifies as, no? Do they consider themselves to be male or female? Are we talking purely natural born, physical attributes, paid for enhancements or mental state of affairs?

Seen some great looking strap on tits. Very lickable.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Lmao. But fab straight men aren’t bi. They are real men who know what they want but don’t want the ladies to know what they like in case the ladies say no no no to sexi times

I’m bi and proud. Own up you nuggets"

Haha yes " real men " yawn.

Liars more like.

I'm getting to the point on here (again lol) where I feel like everyone is a liar!

I've tried to leave but I can't

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan over a year ago

Aylesbury

"Lmao. But fab straight men aren’t bi. They are real men who know what they want but don’t want the ladies to know what they like in case the ladies say no no no to sexi times

I’m bi and proud. Own up you nuggets

Haha yes " real men " yawn.

Liars more like.

I'm getting to the point on here (again lol) where I feel like everyone is a liar!

I've tried to leave but I can't

Not everybody on fab are liars. I've never felt the need to lie here, people either accept me for me or they can piss off

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By *eclanHMan over a year ago

Liphook

And denial to what purpose? Silly, really.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!

I have a friend who's straight but has dabbled with the lady love, only when "in the moment".

She says she's a spaghetti lesbian, straight till wet."

I have dabbled in the moment in the past. I’m not aroused by women. It was just to please the guy. I would never plan to do that though as it doesn’t excite me.

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By *tew008Man over a year ago

edinburgh

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!"

You are what you are. I dunno if a man having sex with a post op TS would have to class himself as bi.

We just like what ever we like.

Just don’t lie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep I’m a mythomaniac. I say I’m bisexual but after not meeting a man for 9 years even that could be construed as a lie.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really."

Sex with ladies who won't meet bi guys, basically.

Tea

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really.

Sex with ladies who won't meet bi guys, basically.

Tea"

I just assume that most people are Bi.

It's so much easier to be honest with yourself and others about what you want sexually ( at the time

)

Sex is always better this way.

Surely us adults on Fab know this already

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've also encountered the opposite too; guys who claim to be bi so that they can have sex with the female of a couple. They 'put up with' the male attention.

It amazes me what people do and say for sex.

Tea

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I once questionned a guys conflicting profile story

He told me he " wasnt bi all the time"

Bless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really.

Sex with ladies who won't meet bi guys, basically.

Tea

I just assume that most people are Bi.

It's so much easier to be honest with yourself and others about what you want sexually ( at the time

)

Sex is always better this way.

Surely us adults on Fab know this already

o-"

Know it? Yes.

Admit it? Ooh, tricky it seems

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know. "

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

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By *Marvel-Man over a year ago

In The Gym

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know. "

Did he just fall over and land on it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

Sort of but it happened so fast you know

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Did he just fall over and land on it? "
and start to suck it as a reflex you know.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know. "

Oh that’s absolutely fine. Apparently you’re not bi if you only suck one but don’t have penetrative sex

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

I saw one of these and someone "accidentally " got his penis stuck in a swimming pool filter thingy - apparantly it hot sucked in as he swam by

He had to have it amputated

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

I saw one of these and someone "accidentally " got his penis stuck in a swimming pool filter thingy - apparantly it hot sucked in as he swam by

He had to have it amputated

Can’t believe I just laughed out loud at that! I’m a terrible person

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

I saw one of these and someone "accidentally " got his penis stuck in a swimming pool filter thingy - apparantly it hot sucked in as he swam by

He had to have it amputated

Can’t believe I just laughed out loud at that! I’m a terrible person

Yes. Yes you are.

I was thinking it was a great idea up until the amputation part

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really."

Because there are loads of women on here who won’t meet bi men, it’s hard enough for the average bloke to meet women on here as it is, so they’re not going to make it harder for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know. "

Did he slip on a banana skin?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm bi-curious but don't really care if it's the right term. I'm attracted to feminity including women and transgender. But not guys so to speak

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

It was illegal.

Its now acceptable.

I for one hope it isn't made compulsory whilst I'm alive.

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By *a LunaWoman over a year ago

South Wales

I think if men aren’t honest about their sexuality, most importantly to themselves, then it must be incredibly difficult to be open and honest about it to someone else.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I dont get why guys dont admit it ?? I've never hidden the fact I'm bi , and enjoy the odd cock

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really.

Because there are loads of women on here who won’t meet bi men, it’s hard enough for the average bloke to meet women on here as it is, so they’re not going to make it harder for themselves."

Not really. I'm old ugly and bisexual and probably get more meets than the average straight guy.

Who's in denial here? The men who fall into a category or the people who deny that SMSM exist despite studies to the contrary to say they do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Plenty of folk on here (across the genders) say they do or don't do one thing and then do the opposite. In the example of the OP, they've said they are straight but have met tv/ts folk (I am assuming this is garnered from veris). They aren't exactly hiding it to be fair...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It was illegal.

Its now acceptable.

I for one hope it isn't made compulsory whilst I'm alive.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont get why guys dont admit it ?? I've never hidden the fact I'm bi , and enjoy the odd cock

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?"

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont get why guys dont admit it ?? I've never hidden the fact I'm bi , and enjoy the odd cock

Because these men do not identify with gay or bi.

They are turned on by the ACT rather than the PERSON.

Bisexuality requires an attraction to both sexes. If the sole definition of bisexuality is male interaction with a penis then any man who has ever masterbated is bisexual.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont get why guys dont admit it ?? I've never hidden the fact I'm bi , and enjoy the odd cock

Because these men do not identify with gay or bi.

They are turned on by the ACT rather than the PERSON.

Bisexuality requires an attraction to both sexes. If the sole definition of bisexuality is male interaction with a penis then any man who has ever masterbated is bisexual. "

So why not bicurious then? Why invent another word?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really.

Because there are loads of women on here who won’t meet bi men, it’s hard enough for the average bloke to meet women on here as it is, so they’re not going to make it harder for themselves."

Yep

Makes me sad that people can’t be true to themselves

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont get why guys dont admit it ?? I've never hidden the fact I'm bi , and enjoy the odd cock

Because these men do not identify with gay or bi.

They are turned on by the ACT rather than the PERSON.

Bisexuality requires an attraction to both sexes. If the sole definition of bisexuality is male interaction with a penis then any man who has ever masterbated is bisexual. "

Then they are pansexual.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

I saw one of these and someone "accidentally " got his penis stuck in a swimming pool filter thingy - apparantly it hot sucked in as he swam by

He had to have it amputated

Can’t believe I just laughed out loud at that! I’m a terrible person

I'm a terrible person too.

I don't have sex with Bi guys.

I'll see you in hell

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really.

Because there are loads of women on here who won’t meet bi men, it’s hard enough for the average bloke to meet women on here as it is, so they’re not going to make it harder for themselves."

Yeah. Loads of men on here claim to be straight, then have near identical profiles on Fab guys

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend "

And calling these people liars wasn't offensive?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!"

Is it the fact that he's lying about being straight that annoys you the most?

I just assume they're all bi. I wish the sexuality tick box was removed from profiles.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

I saw one of these and someone "accidentally " got his penis stuck in a swimming pool filter thingy - apparantly it hot sucked in as he swam by

He had to have it amputated

Can’t believe I just laughed out loud at that! I’m a terrible person

I'm a terrible person too.

I don't have sex with Bi guys.

I'll see you in hell

Me neither but apparently I’m supposed to give valid reasons why. Straight, gay, bi. Why the need for anything else? It’s getting bloody ridiculous

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By *hekaiserMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know. "

Really...?

Like did he trip up and fall face first into the guys crotch?

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By *ibblingnewtWoman over a year ago

by the sea

I see men that partake with another guy and refusing to be called bi quite homophobic really, can give any excuse you want to but a spades a spade in my eyes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

And calling these people liars wasn't offensive?

I wouldn’t call them liars. I would call them bisexual

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend "

Oh FFS

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!

Is it the fact that he's lying about being straight that annoys you the most?

I just assume they're all bi. I wish the sexuality tick box was removed from profiles."

Do you remember when the world was in denial about bisexuality. Bisexual men were just gay men who were liars?

Just because we don't fully understand something it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have astraight friend who accidentally sucked a penis once.

This happens you know.

Is this like in A&E where people accidentally have hoover attachment jammed up their arse?

I saw one of these and someone "accidentally " got his penis stuck in a swimming pool filter thingy - apparantly it hot sucked in as he swam by

He had to have it amputated

Can’t believe I just laughed out loud at that! I’m a terrible person

I'm a terrible person too.

I don't have sex with Bi guys.

I'll see you in hell

Me neither but apparently I’m supposed to give valid reasons why. Straight, gay, bi. Why the need for anything else? It’s getting bloody ridiculous "

It's always inferred that preference is ok - but not if it's based in racism or homophobia.

I asked what would happen if I was racist or homophobic (in the reason why I wouldn't fuck someone) but no-one ever tells me what would happen.

I should do a thread.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

Neigh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

You can identify as a horse and shit in the street if you want to. Can’t see anyone trying to stop you! I’m damn sure you’d be able to take them to court with some sort of an ism or a phobia if they did.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I dont get why guys dont admit it ?? I've never hidden the fact I'm bi , and enjoy the odd cock

Because lots of people won’t meet bi guys. Also, they may only be into it situationally and not be into meeting men one on one. If you put that you’re bi on your profile, you would then attract men and maybe they don’t want that. "
I'd rather get less meets than lie though , just my opinion though . Just be who you really are , no need to lie on here

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi? "

I have no idea!

But being male and putting a penis in your mouth is pretty ghey

Maybe then you can be part of the " SMSCS "

Straight men suck cock society

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

Neigh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi? "

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

If you are willing to accept for a minute that these people do exist, then you will realise that we are effectively cyberbullying people out of ignorance. They are actually the ones being honest. The are telling you that the enjoy cock but don't feel bi.

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By *cgkcCouple over a year ago

Hitchin

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

Why the long face?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

I have no idea!

But being male and putting a penis in your mouth is pretty ghey

Maybe then you can be part of the " SMSCS "

Straight men suck cock society

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By *ommyxyzMan over a year ago

Crawley

Bi, simple, like the op says just own it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

Why the long face?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?"

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

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By *uciyassMan over a year ago

sheffield

"Lmao. But fab straight men aren’t bi. They are real men who know what they want but don’t want the ladies to know what they like in case the ladies say no no no to sexi times

I’m bi and proud. Own up you nuggets

Haha yes " real men " yawn.

Liars more like.

I'm getting to the point on here (again lol) where I feel like everyone is a liar!

I've tried to leave but I can't

O no don’t leave. You’d be missed

. We all know the tell tale signs of the non bi but straight bi curious man he only sucks dick when he’s made to by the wife and he secretly loves it. God forbid she ever suggests for him to take it up the bum. Omg the shame of it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Almost all studies define sexual orientation based on at least one of the three following indicators:

Attraction

Sexual behavior

Self-identification

It is strongly urged that researchers use at least two of these identity markers when formulating a study design.

- psychologytoday.com

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded."

If you took an 80 year old person who didn't feel old ... who was amazing for their age, identifies themself as younger, feels younger, wears young peoples clothes and hangs around having fun with a younger generation whether they like it or not they are still old and 80 years!

Just because one psychologist doing a very small scale study writes this doesn't mean that it is fact and as in any research can be proved wrong by a different study! Research is just findings and open to interpretation.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Lmao. But fab straight men aren’t bi. They are real men who know what they want but don’t want the ladies to know what they like in case the ladies say no no no to sexi times

I’m bi and proud. Own up you nuggets

Haha yes " real men " yawn.

Liars more like.

I'm getting to the point on here (again lol) where I feel like everyone is a liar!

I've tried to leave but I can't

O no don’t leave. You’d be missed

Haha

there are quite a few men in couples ghaf I know of that are " made to do it " by their partners

They have the perfect relationship - they can have both and their partner agrees - yet they still don't own it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded."

No I have no time for this because you have already took the childish route of calling me narrow minded. How dare you. You don’t even know me. Judging by the amount of messages I’ve had agreeing with me it just confirms what I’ve always thought on here. People are just too damned scared to express their opinion for fear of offending the majority and you have just proved my point by calling me narrow minded.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality."

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers. "

Oh you most certainly do think I’m narrow minded. Because yes, if someone said to me what is the sexuality of a man who has sex with men and women my answer would be bi. As would the answer of everyone I know. Even on here the options are straight, gay or bi. So no, I don’t see the point of confusing things even more which seems to be happening too much these days.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?"

No it’s not possible for a man who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man, well it is but surely they are in denial.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?

No it’s not possible for a man who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man, well it is but surely they are in denial. "

Are you seriously saying someone is narrow minded if they think this?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?"

I'm not a man.

I have no idea who wants to identify as what - nor do I care.

I don't want to engage in sexual acts with them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why does it bother you so much?

Why label everything

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Just like I said in the OP the denial is strong

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By *uciyassMan over a year ago

sheffield

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?

No it’s not possible for a man who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man, well it is but surely they are in denial. "

They don’t want to identify as Bi cuz the ladies won’t give them a second look well that’s what they think. Twats

I may dress in ladies undergarments and assorted accessories but I don’t identify as a woman. I’m a man. A bisexual man and I couldn’t give a flying todger what any one thinks

Now let’s all have some coffee and cake and relax.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?

No it’s not possible for a man who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man, well it is but surely they are in denial.

They don’t want to identify as Bi cuz the ladies won’t give them a second look well that’s what they think. Twats

I may dress in ladies undergarments and assorted accessories but I don’t identify as a woman. I’m a man. A bisexual man and I couldn’t give a flying todger what any one thinks

Now let’s all have some coffee and cake and relax. "

Exactly. I’m not one for labels anyway. Just be what the hell you want to be! It’s too bloody confusing. Can’t even remember whether I’m bi or bicurious on my profile. I don’t really care tbh!

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By *evil_u_knowMan over a year ago

city

It's 2019, if the guy sees them as a woman and they see themselves as a woman then the guy is straight, whats hard to understand about that?

If you only want men that share your view that gender is decided by a penis or a vagina, then put that on your profile.

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By *ruebameMan over a year ago

from the womb and tryout to get back

Im bilingüe significa que puse bi en mi perfil

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Eat a snickers, love, you’re a right diva when you’re horny!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers. "

I think they're bi. If that makes me narrow minded or homophobic I'm ok with that.

Are they narrow minded and cyber bullying for not respecting my opinion?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's 2019, if the guy sees them as a woman and they see themselves as a woman then the guy is straight, whats hard to understand about that?

If you only want men that share your view that gender is decided by a penis or a vagina, then put that on your profile. "

I'm assuming you're Fab straight then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Actually I make a point of not getting personal with people. You're right. I don't know you as a person. But stating something as black and white without being willing to accept any alternative suggestion is not what I consider an open minded discussion. It is your argument I consider narrow minded not you as a person.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

With threads like this, no wonder people will not be fully open about their sexuality. It’s nobody’s business anyway.

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By *pider-WomanWoman over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

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By *pider-WomanWoman over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

"And denial to what purpose? Silly, really.

Sex with ladies who won't meet bi guys, basically.

Tea

I just assume that most people are Bi.

It's so much easier to be honest with yourself and others about what you want sexually ( at the time

)

Sex is always better this way.

Surely us adults on Fab know this already

Know it? Yes.

Admit it? Ooh, tricky it seems

Yep or where's the bloody hamster gone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think there could be a distinction between someone that will allow something to happen, ie get their cock sucked but they wouldn't actively look for it or desire it. I dont know if that makes them bi or just a super relaxed personality

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

After reading all that, I’m just confused

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?

I'm not a man.

I have no idea who wants to identify as what - nor do I care.

I don't want to engage in sexual acts with them.

Thanks for sharing

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I can't be arsed to quote anymore

Things are rarely black and white.

Being "narrow minded " is usually something that people say when they don't fit in to your agenda.

I don't call the men on here narrow minded when they don't fancy me because if my size.

I look for mutual attraction.

Knowing someone's sexuality plays a part in attraction for me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me. "

So you think I should say I’m bi because I’ve had a few encounters with women in group sex in the past? The thought turns my stomach tbh but I went along with it at the time.

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By *anny77Man over a year ago

glasgow

Well to be honest I have verifications from men and TV / TS and I’m straight. On the surface you’d see I’ve got these Veri’s and think I might be bi... but if you read them (available except for anyone who has left site) you’d see it was people I spoke to and hit it off with and social occasions. I’m not bi but I think that has led people to think I am. Or, from my inbox, you’d think that was the case

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After reading all that, I’m just confused "

Haha. Don’t try lovely.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So if I identify with being a horse - does it make it so?

There are plenty of people on this site with a penis who identify as a woman. Do you have an 18th century viewpoint on that as well?

People can wear whatever they wish and fuck whatever gender they want and identify as anything they choose.

Everyone is attracted to different things.

I'm not attracted to men that fuck other men.

I'm fat and old and black - I have a small pool of people that are interested in me but I'm not pretending I'm something else to get laid.

I'm here for good sex and good connections with the people that I'm attracted to.

A yes or no would have sufficed. Lots of words but still no answer.

I'm not sure what you want me to say?

This is a forum - for a debate and a laugh - not for everyone to agree.

If men want to wear dresses and identify as women - all the power to them - they're out and proud.

The original OP was about owning your sexuality.

So it's possible a man to identify as a woman but not possible for a person who indulges in bisexual behaviour to identify as a straight man?

I'm not a man.

I have no idea who wants to identify as what - nor do I care.

I don't want to engage in sexual acts with them.

Thanks for sharing "

Just wow!

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By *pider-WomanWoman over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me. "

Yep. If you have a cock and take a cock then its simple really your fab straight

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"With threads like this, no wonder people will not be fully open about their sexuality. It’s nobody’s business anyway. "

People's sexuality plays a big part in what I'm attracted to.

So it is my buisness.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me. "

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With threads like this, no wonder people will not be fully open about their sexuality. It’s nobody’s business anyway.

People's sexuality plays a big part in what I'm attracted to.

So it is my buisness."

They don’t have to tell you though about their past, it’s not a given right.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Yep. If you have a cock and take a cock then its simple really your fab straight

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?"

Oh for goodness sake. Are you for real?

I’m out

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"With threads like this, no wonder people will not be fully open about their sexuality. It’s nobody’s business anyway.

People's sexuality plays a big part in what I'm attracted to.

So it is my buisness.

They don’t have to tell you though about their past, it’s not a given right. "

No it isn't- like I said I don't meet from here anymore- it's a big turn off for me because most people lie.

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By *anny77Man over a year ago

glasgow

"With threads like this, no wonder people will not be fully open about their sexuality. It’s nobody’s business anyway.

People's sexuality plays a big part in what I'm attracted to.

So it is my buisness."

Absolutely agree with this. If a guy is bi and is annoyed a woman won’t see him because of it he just has to live with it. It’s her choice.

If someone sees my face and says “no thanks!” I don’t get annoyed because they’re not giving me a chance... my face doesn’t attract them. If there is something about someone you don’t like you have the right to make that defining factor in your decision to / not to see them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After reading all that, I’m just confused

Haha. Don’t try lovely.

I’m taking my tea back out to the garden. Life is simpler among the birds and the butterflies

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By *uciyassMan over a year ago

sheffield

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?"

Hands up any man on here who is forced to have sex with another man ??? This is fab. We are a community of normal folk who have one thing in common generally. We love sexy times. I don’t see how your example has any relevance to the initial post by the op

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?

Oh for goodness sake. Are you for real?

I’m out "

Don't feed the troll Nora

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!"

Hes fab straight

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By *anny77Man over a year ago

glasgow

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?"

That doesn’t sound like they are “having” sex. That sounds like sex is being forced upon them. That’s r*pe. It’s a different thing than a guy claiming to be straight and then having sex with other men

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After reading all that, I’m just confused

Haha. Don’t try lovely.

I’m taking my tea back out to the garden. Life is simpler among the birds and the butterflies "

Room for one more? I don’t like tea or coffee though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Most guys on here have dabbled I'm sure. Best sex I've had and could not give to cares two any woman on here. I'm bi and very happy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Yep. If you have a cock and take a cock then its simple really your fab straight

Fab straight. Exactly my point. You have enough people on a site to have a name designated to them. Yet we find it easier to call them all liars than yo try to understand them.

I'm not defending myself here. I'm bi and proudly bi. But I do come into contact with people, not just on a forum who genuinely do not see themselves as bi even though they enjoy male/male interaction. Should they be telling everyone that they are bi when they don't feel they are? Is that honesty?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?

Don't even answer that ridiculous comment.

Comparing r*pe with sex between consenting adults is disgusting!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

Alot depends on someone's reason for not wanting to meet bi men. If it's from a sexual health risk point of view then just because a man identifies as female doesn't change the perceived risk.

However if a woman doesn't want to meet a bi man because the thought of him having sex with another Male body (sucking cock. Having cock sucked by, penetrating a physical male body, or being penetrated by a penis) is abhorrent to her then her preference is still valid against bi men.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After reading all that, I’m just confused

Haha. Don’t try lovely.

I’m taking my tea back out to the garden. Life is simpler among the birds and the butterflies

Room for one more? I don’t like tea or coffee though."

I’ll pour you any drink you bloody well like!

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By *JohnMan over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I'm not sure I want to get involved in this. But. I see a parallel with the occasional complaints about certain women's profiles - they say no single men, but have some single men in their verifications.

I don't see a problem with that. They're mostly not looking for men, so that's what they put in their profiles. But we're human, messy and inconsistent. If a woman occasionally wants a man, then she occasionally wants a man. There's no hypocrisy there.

Human sexuality is extraordinarily complex. No usable set of labels can ever cover all of the possibilities. We choose one that feels the most comfortable and wear it. It will never quite fit, but that's a failing of the label, not the person.

If a man thinks that 'straight' is a better fit for him than 'bi', he's going to call himself straight. He might strongly prefer women, but not 100% exclusively. That's reasonable to me. 'Bi' says something quite different.

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By *anny77Man over a year ago

glasgow

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?

Don't even answer that ridiculous comment.

Comparing r*pe with sex between consenting adults is disgusting!"

Agree completely

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

*Monkey pokes his head above the parapet and decides the Smoothie thread is far more enticing*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Yep. If you have a cock and take a cock then its simple really your fab straight

Fab straight. Exactly my point. You have enough people on a site to have a name designated to them. Yet we find it easier to call them all liars than yo try to understand them.

My old fwb is bi and openly admits it now but took him a long time to come to terms with it. He was only orally bi back then and would never date a guy but likes the sexual side with guys. Nobody should be pressured into admitting this and should not be shamed either for being a ‘liar’. Let people identify as they wish, if they are truly bi, they will eventually come to terms with this in their own time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Ok lets hold your definition up to the light.

A man who is forced to have sex against his will is no longer straight? E.g. "prison wives" who have a choice between being killed and having sex with other men are bisexual?

Yes because you've just opened up the definition to include Attraction and Self Identification.

I am saying that if one's definition is solely based on yhe sexual behaviour then in the case of the prison wife only looking at sexual behaviour in isolation is wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After reading all that, I’m just confused

Haha. Don’t try lovely.

I’m taking my tea back out to the garden. Life is simpler among the birds and the butterflies

Room for one more? I don’t like tea or coffee though.

I’ll pour you any drink you bloody well like! "

The way I’m feeling today, a Bloody Mary would sort me out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After reading all that, I’m just confused

Haha. Don’t try lovely.

I’m taking my tea back out to the garden. Life is simpler among the birds and the butterflies

Room for one more? I don’t like tea or coffee though.

That’s vodka and tomato juice with tobacco on top right?

I’ll pour you any drink you bloody well like!

The way I’m feeling today, a Bloody Mary would sort me out. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After reading all that, I’m just confused

Haha. Don’t try lovely.

I’m taking my tea back out to the garden. Life is simpler among the birds and the butterflies

Room for one more? I don’t like tea or coffee though.

I’ll pour you any drink you bloody well like!

The way I’m feeling today, a Bloody Mary would sort me out. "

I’ll try that again. Vodka, tomato and tobasco even.

Bloody sun in my eyes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not sure I want to get involved in this. But. I see a parallel with the occasional complaints about certain women's profiles - they say no single men, but have some single men in their verifications.

I’m glad you did get involved, you absolutely nailed it with everything you said.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm not shaming anyone!

My OP was about owning your sexuality and not lying about it.

We're not teenagers - I knew I was Bi forever.

Stop pretending that the men on here lying about their sexuality on their profiles are all innocents scared of ridicule.

That's just nonsense!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So is everyone straight, bi or gay then? Nothing else in-between or either side?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With threads like this, no wonder people will not be fully open about their sexuality. It’s nobody’s business anyway. "

I have to agree with the opening sentence.

Would also apply to various other aspects on fabs that people lie about.

Meeting people off here you kind of have to take at face value and read between the lines.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not shaming anyone!

My OP was about owning your sexuality and not lying about it.

We're not teenagers - I knew I was Bi forever.

Stop pretending that the men on here lying about their sexuality on their profiles are all innocents scared of ridicule.

That's just nonsense!"

I give up!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"With threads like this, no wonder people will not be fully open about their sexuality. It’s nobody’s business anyway.

I have to agree with the opening sentence.

Would also apply to various other aspects on fabs that people lie about.

Meeting people off here you kind of have to take at face value and read between the lines."

True.

We are rarely going to know people's sexual history on here - so we either accept it or be sexless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Psychology today published a post on a study which identified SMSM (straight men who have sex with men) as a demographic who do not identify as bi or gay.

When a person presents as one gender but identifies with another we accept it. But when a person presents with one sexual orientation but identifies with another we call them liars?

OMG not another acronym to try and remember so as not to offend

Oh FFS

Seriously? Is it me? Straight men who have sex with men? Is that not bi?

If you're narrow minded yes.

This is not my idea plucked from thin air. It's the result of a study done by a qualified psychologist.

If their were just one or two of these 'liars' maybe. But its such a phenomenon that it has prompted this thread.

Oh damn! I forgot if you don’t agree with people you’re narrow minded. Silly me. And this is why I don’t get involved in these threads anymore. As you were

No if you can prove me wrong with a dialectic argument then I'll listen to your argument and take it into consideration.

If your argument is based on you know what you know and won't accept a perfectly plausible explanation for something you might not understand. Then yes you are narrow minded.

I didn't call you narrow minded.

I said "If you're narrow minded yes."

IF...

Sorry you can't tell the difference.

IF you are narrow minded the sexual behavior is the only marker. Someone more broadmind will accept that Attraction and Self Identification are also markers.

Well if you've decided that I'm saying you're narrow minded no matter what I say.... well... um...

Then so be it. Because a man who has sex with another man is not straight no matter what. So I fully accept your opinion of me.

Yep. If you have a cock and take a cock then its simple really your fab straight

Fab straight. Exactly my point. You have enough people on a site to have a name designated to them. Yet we find it easier to call them all liars than yo try to understand them.

Let's assume a guy isn't bi. Some days he has bisexual urges but really fancies women. He reads some of the dogmatic statements on this forum and puts bi on his profile. Sometime later he plays with a couple who has looked at his profile and expects bi play. When they suggest it there is a really awkward situation where the couple feel they have been "led on" by a guy pretending to be bi. No one did anything wrong. We just steadfastly refuse that a category of men exist who indulge in bisexual behaviour but do not find other men attractive and do not see themselves as bi.

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!

I have a friend who's straight but has dabbled with the lady love, only when "in the moment".

She says she's a spaghetti lesbian, straight till wet."

So on continuum spectrum of sexuality she bi then?

Don't hey me wrong I know a few people like this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm not shaming anyone!

My OP was about owning your sexuality and not lying about it.

We're not teenagers - I knew I was Bi forever.

Stop pretending that the men on here lying about their sexuality on their profiles are all innocents scared of ridicule.

That's just nonsense!

I give up!!!"

I forgot you're right and I'm wrong sorry

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not shaming anyone!

My OP was about owning your sexuality and not lying about it.

We're not teenagers - I knew I was Bi forever.

Stop pretending that the men on here lying about their sexuality on their profiles are all innocents scared of ridicule.

That's just nonsense!

I give up!!!

I forgot you're right and I'm wrong sorry"

Where did I say that? You are being particularly difficult now. I don’t start threads or moan about people I’ve met or had problems with. I keep that shit private.

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By *uciyassMan over a year ago

sheffield

I’ve got 4 cappuccinos. 2 lattes and an Americano. Who ordered the tea??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve got 4 cappuccinos. 2 lattes and an Americano. Who ordered the tea??"

Me! With a teaspoon of honey please

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm not shaming anyone!

My OP was about owning your sexuality and not lying about it.

We're not teenagers - I knew I was Bi forever.

Stop pretending that the men on here lying about their sexuality on their profiles are all innocents scared of ridicule.

That's just nonsense!

I give up!!!

I forgot you're right and I'm wrong sorry

Where did I say that? You are being particularly difficult now. I don’t start threads or moan about people I’ve met or had problems with. I keep that shit private. "

You're getting personal now that is against forum rules

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *iverpool LoverMan over a year ago

liverpool

*walks in takes a look around, reads the comments*

Fuck this, way too much drama here

*walks out into the garden, looks for the woman with the tea and butterflies*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You have two options. Learn about something you don't understand

Dogmaticly repeat something your dad said because his dad said it because.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"*walks in takes a look around, reads the comments*

Fuck this, way too much drama here

*walks out into the garden, looks for the woman with the tea and butterflies*"

I’m a man! I identify as a man!

I just like butterflies

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By *iverpool LoverMan over a year ago

liverpool

"*walks in takes a look around, reads the comments*

Fuck this, way too much drama here

*walks out into the garden, looks for the woman with the tea and butterflies*

I’m a man! I identify as a man!

I just like butterflies

Haha my apologies

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

"You have two options. Learn about something you don't understand

Dogmaticly repeat something your dad said because his dad said it because....."

Not in relation to this thread, but this applies to so many things. I've said similar on here before, the other day in fact. It is such an important thought process and quote.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm pretty fond of

Attraction

Sexual behaviour

Self Identification

Because a guy who fancies other guys and sees himself as bi but hasn't done anything bi isn't bi by the popular definition on fab.

Whereas a guy who doesn't identify as bi and isn't at all attracted to men is considered bi based on things hes done.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hmmmm.

Another generic rant about "men on fab" apparently based on an interaction with one man?

Who would have thought it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one"

Interesting article

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Hmmmm.

Another generic rant about "men on fab" apparently based on an interaction with one man?

Who would have thought it

I've been on Fab and other sites and in the world long enough to know how it is.

Everyone claiming that this is perfectly ok to lie and it's shades of grey blahhh blahhh are frankly talking bollocks

Ok fabbers get your knickers in a twist about that comment!

Including the men wearing knickers - I wouldn't want to exclude anyone!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

Interesting article "

For me it solves the "fab straight" conundrum. It fits.

This is why I say some (not all) men are being totally honest when they say that they aren't bi despite their sexual behaviour.

It's just a theory but it has credence.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm not a cunt.

Despite my behaviour.

Do me a favour!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

https://youtu.be/tSmaDPw6U5A

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So instead of respecting diversity and that we all see things differently and just letting others live without their lives being judged by others when they arent harming anyone, you feel the need to publically post and ridicule them for not living life the same as you. Is it cos you're so perfect we should all live and think the same as you?

You would not like it if you were ridiculed for how you choose to live your life!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So instead of respecting diversity and that we all see things differently and just letting others live without their lives being judged by others when they arent harming anyone, you feel the need to publically post and ridicule them for not living life the same as you. Is it cos you're so perfect we should all live and think the same as you?

You would not like it if you were ridiculed for how you choose to live your life!

I'm thinking of changing my name to maycontainfullfuckingnuts just to give myself a touch of class

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

You would not like it if you were ridiculed for how you choose to live your life!

I'm thinking of changing my name to maycontainfullfuckingnuts just to give myself a touch of class

Yes your real classy mate

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

You would not like it if you were ridiculed for how you choose to live your life!

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying obviously

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"https://youtu.be/tSmaDPw6U5A"

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

wigan

"He's not Bi but has met and had sexual contact with TV / TS

This story is getting boring now!

Fucking own it!"

You’ve been here long enough to know that this has been discussed 100s of times and you’ve been in them too so you already knew the answers you were going to get, so my question? Why start another when you knew you were just gonna get the same information?? I agree with you.. but fuckin hell.. yet another thread on it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one"

Is just another theory ... another opinion and another label so someone can justify their behaviour

It's an idea not set in stone!

Men have had sex with women (& the other way) that they don't fancy forever

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alot depends on someone's reason for not wanting to meet bi men. If it's from a sexual health risk point of view then just because a man identifies as female doesn't change the perceived risk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

What a load of rubbish!

The world's gone mad.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

What a load of rubbish!

The world's gone mad."

. Did you only just notice?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

What a load of rubbish!

The world's gone mad.

. Did you only just notice?

Good point.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman over a year ago

by the sea

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

What a load of rubbish!

The world's gone mad."

It’s utter crap, kinda American homophobia church types that do have same sex meets this Will be perfect reading for them

Can imagine all in church playing good married family man and thank god im not a gay man then a few hours later sucking some guys cock

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh I e had the straight male half of couples message me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally I'm a fan of the kinsey scale, it's simple and understandable.

Whilst I can see the process behind the three various forms of identifiers regarding sexuality, that requires a stark level of honesty from people and understanding from others. I do also feel that there is credance behind the 'liars' belief from many, simply because I've come into contact with many who do exactly that and have told me that.

I do believe that sexuality is fluid and fluid has a tendancy to leak out of pigeon holes, however when you're on a site that only recognises 3 states, men claiming to be straight when they have sex with men seems to be stretching credulity.

Labels are required on here and they need to be objectively quantifiable. Whilst clunky, bi is the option as that's all there is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

What a load of rubbish!

The world's gone mad.

It’s utter crap, kinda American homophobia church types that do have same sex meets this Will be perfect reading for them

Can imagine all in church playing good married family man and thank god im not a gay man then a few hours later sucking some guys cock "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh can I be the one to close this senseless thread?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

2nd attempt!

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