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"A good, typical sexy night will differ to each individual and not easily quantified. " For me, it would involve a lot of teasing, there would be chilling out, talking and possibly some drinks too. A bit of pussy licking or woman pleasing, a massage or something and probably a few fucks. | |||
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"Hello, so I have another thought provoking question for you lot; What are your expectations of a meet? By meet, I don't mean a social - I mean getting down to it. So, here's a bit of context to my question; A few months ago, I got involved with some girl (not from fab). She was a nice looking lady. She asked me would I be interested in an NSA relationship, to which I said maybe. We met up a few times, went for food, drinks, etc, and ended up having lots of sex. She'd invite me round, etc. Towards the end of the last night with her, she said, "I love these dates!". I was like "Errrrrrrr, these aren't dates, were just friends." Me being male and all, I thought nothing of it, but it did put a downer on everything. A day or two later, I messaged her and got a message straight back from her: "We're done - nice knowing you!". I said "Is everything ok?" She explained that I was never serious, that I joked around too much and nothing like her ex. However! A month later, it got back to me that I was overly forceful, and shit in bed! I don't necessarily believe that, but it did make me wonder; What do women expect sexually? Say you were to meet a man off fab, what do you actually expect? In your opinion, realistically, how would a good, sexy, typical night go?" Sounds to me as though her feelings were starting to go beyond NSA & she was maybe hoping the same with you. The way she ended things was most likely self preservation. Maybe taking it out on you for her starting to fall for you? Clearly not your fault as you signed up for NSA but I suspect quite a few people hope that will turn into more over time. Hate to generalise but especially girls  | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy "Probably | |||
"Hello, so I have another thought provoking question for you lot; What are your expectations of a meet? By meet, I don't mean a social - I mean getting down to it. So, here's a bit of context to my question; A few months ago, I got involved with some girl (not from fab). She was a nice looking lady. She asked me would I be interested in an NSA relationship, to which I said maybe. We met up a few times, went for food, drinks, etc, and ended up having lots of sex. She'd invite me round, etc. Towards the end of the last night with her, she said, "I love these dates!". I was like "Errrrrrrr, these aren't dates, were just friends." Me being male and all, I thought nothing of it, but it did put a downer on everything. A day or two later, I messaged her and got a message straight back from her: "We're done - nice knowing you!". I said "Is everything ok?" She explained that I was never serious, that I joked around too much and nothing like her ex. However! A month later, it got back to me that I was overly forceful, and shit in bed! I don't necessarily believe that, but it did make me wonder; What do women expect sexually? Say you were to meet a man off fab, what do you actually expect? In your opinion, realistically, how would a good, sexy, typical night go? Sounds to me as though her feelings were starting to go beyond NSA & she was maybe hoping the same with you. The way she ended things was most likely self preservation. Maybe taking it out on you for her starting to fall for you? Clearly not your fault as you signed up for NSA but I suspect quite a few people hope that will turn into more over time. Hate to generalise but especially girls "Then don't generalise! | |||
"Hello, so I have another thought provoking question for you lot; What are your expectations of a meet? By meet, I don't mean a social - I mean getting down to it. So, here's a bit of context to my question; A few months ago, I got involved with some girl (not from fab). She was a nice looking lady. She asked me would I be interested in an NSA relationship, to which I said maybe. We met up a few times, went for food, drinks, etc, and ended up having lots of sex. She'd invite me round, etc. Towards the end of the last night with her, she said, "I love these dates!". I was like "Errrrrrrr, these aren't dates, were just friends." Me being male and all, I thought nothing of it, but it did put a downer on everything. A day or two later, I messaged her and got a message straight back from her: "We're done - nice knowing you!". I said "Is everything ok?" She explained that I was never serious, that I joked around too much and nothing like her ex. However! A month later, it got back to me that I was overly forceful, and shit in bed! I don't necessarily believe that, but it did make me wonder; What do women expect sexually? Say you were to meet a man off fab, what do you actually expect? In your opinion, realistically, how would a good, sexy, typical night go? Sounds to me as though her feelings were starting to go beyond NSA & she was maybe hoping the same with you. The way she ended things was most likely self preservation. Maybe taking it out on you for her starting to fall for you? Clearly not your fault as you signed up for NSA but I suspect quite a few people hope that will turn into more over time. Hate to generalise but especially girls "You generalise it being girls, because you meet girls and only experience that from your perspective. I find men always want more than no strings. The lady only said she enjoyed the dates, she never mentioned a future. It was probably just a word she was using as we would use the term meets. | |||
"Hello, so I have another thought provoking question for you lot; What are your expectations of a meet? By meet, I don't mean a social - I mean getting down to it. So, here's a bit of context to my question; A few months ago, I got involved with some girl (not from fab). She was a nice looking lady. She asked me would I be interested in an NSA relationship, to which I said maybe. We met up a few times, went for food, drinks, etc, and ended up having lots of sex. She'd invite me round, etc. Towards the end of the last night with her, she said, "I love these dates!". I was like "Errrrrrrr, these aren't dates, were just friends." Me being male and all, I thought nothing of it, but it did put a downer on everything. A day or two later, I messaged her and got a message straight back from her: "We're done - nice knowing you!". I said "Is everything ok?" She explained that I was never serious, that I joked around too much and nothing like her ex. However! A month later, it got back to me that I was overly forceful, and shit in bed! I don't necessarily believe that, but it did make me wonder; What do women expect sexually? Say you were to meet a man off fab, what do you actually expect? In your opinion, realistically, how would a good, sexy, typical night go? Sounds to me as though her feelings were starting to go beyond NSA & she was maybe hoping the same with you. The way she ended things was most likely self preservation. Maybe taking it out on you for her starting to fall for you? Clearly not your fault as you signed up for NSA but I suspect quite a few people hope that will turn into more over time. Hate to generalise but especially girls "Yeah, it's common... But I'm genuinely interested to know what women's expectations are with sexual encounters. What would you expect of a man sexually?  | |||
"Hello, so I have another thought provoking question for you lot; What are your expectations of a meet? By meet, I don't mean a social - I mean getting down to it. So, here's a bit of context to my question; A few months ago, I got involved with some girl (not from fab). She was a nice looking lady. She asked me would I be interested in an NSA relationship, to which I said maybe. We met up a few times, went for food, drinks, etc, and ended up having lots of sex. She'd invite me round, etc. Towards the end of the last night with her, she said, "I love these dates!". I was like "Errrrrrrr, these aren't dates, were just friends." Me being male and all, I thought nothing of it, but it did put a downer on everything. A day or two later, I messaged her and got a message straight back from her: "We're done - nice knowing you!". I said "Is everything ok?" She explained that I was never serious, that I joked around too much and nothing like her ex. However! A month later, it got back to me that I was overly forceful, and shit in bed! I don't necessarily believe that, but it did make me wonder; What do women expect sexually? Say you were to meet a man off fab, what do you actually expect? In your opinion, realistically, how would a good, sexy, typical night go? Sounds to me as though her feelings were starting to go beyond NSA & she was maybe hoping the same with you. The way she ended things was most likely self preservation. Maybe taking it out on you for her starting to fall for you? Clearly not your fault as you signed up for NSA but I suspect quite a few people hope that will turn into more over time. Hate to generalise but especially girls
Then don't generalise! "Wow. Ok.  | |||
"Hello, so I have another thought provoking question for you lot; What are your expectations of a meet? By meet, I don't mean a social - I mean getting down to it. So, here's a bit of context to my question; A few months ago, I got involved with some girl (not from fab). She was a nice looking lady. She asked me would I be interested in an NSA relationship, to which I said maybe. We met up a few times, went for food, drinks, etc, and ended up having lots of sex. She'd invite me round, etc. Towards the end of the last night with her, she said, "I love these dates!". I was like "Errrrrrrr, these aren't dates, were just friends." Me being male and all, I thought nothing of it, but it did put a downer on everything. A day or two later, I messaged her and got a message straight back from her: "We're done - nice knowing you!". I said "Is everything ok?" She explained that I was never serious, that I joked around too much and nothing like her ex. However! A month later, it got back to me that I was overly forceful, and shit in bed! I don't necessarily believe that, but it did make me wonder; What do women expect sexually? Say you were to meet a man off fab, what do you actually expect? In your opinion, realistically, how would a good, sexy, typical night go? Sounds to me as though her feelings were starting to go beyond NSA & she was maybe hoping the same with you. The way she ended things was most likely self preservation. Maybe taking it out on you for her starting to fall for you? Clearly not your fault as you signed up for NSA but I suspect quite a few people hope that will turn into more over time. Hate to generalise but especially girls
Yeah, it's common... But I'm genuinely interested to know what women's expectations are with sexual encounters. What would you expect of a man sexually? "What's common? | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably "Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc... | |||
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"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc..."You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex | |||
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"Implying it is common for women to want more." Yes, it's very common. | |||
"Jeez there's some fiestyness flying around tonight! "Not at all, just balancing things out. There is no drama, just people having different options. This is a forum after all! | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex "No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!". | |||
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"Implying it is common for women to want more. Yes, it's very common." Says who, that's a massive sweeping statement. | |||
"Implying it is common for women to want more. Yes, it's very common." I find the opposite. I find men always start as saying they want NSA, but often want more. | |||
"Jeez there's some fiestyness flying around tonight! "Lol x | |||
"Implying it is common for women to want more. Yes, it's very common. I find the opposite. I find men always start as saying they want NSA, but often want more." Absolutely, that is my experience too. | |||
"Jeez there's some fiestyness flying around tonight!
Not at all, just balancing things out.
There is no drama, just people having different options. This is a forum after all! "I completely agree but, in my opinion, your initial comment following my initial post didn't exactly feel warm & fuzzy! | |||
"Are you more annoyed that you stopped shagging or that she said you were a shit shag?" I'm not annoyed, but I'm curious about the shit shag comment. | |||
"Implying it is common for women to want more. Yes, it's very common. Says who, that's a massive sweeping statement. " It's common for me and close friends. If you have a different opinion though, that's cool. X | |||
"Jeez there's some fiestyness flying around tonight!
Not at all, just balancing things out.
There is no drama, just people having different options. This is a forum after all!
I completely agree but, in my opinion, your initial comment following my initial post didn't exactly feel warm & fuzzy!"It wasn't meant to be warm and fuzzy but it was far than fiesty. You said you hate to generalise then went on to do just that. | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!"."Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding. | |||
"Implying it is common for women to want more. Yes, it's very common. I find the opposite. I find men always start as saying they want NSA, but often want more. Absolutely, that is my experience too. " Well, you're probably right too! Who knows? It's certainly common with women. For all I know, men could be the same. | |||
"Implying it is common for women to want more. Yes, it's very common. Says who, that's a massive sweeping statement. It's common for me and close friends. If you have a different opinion though, that's cool. X" In any NSA/FWB arrangement communication is key. When both people aren't completely on the same page it can get tricky. Communication is key. | |||
"Jeez there's some fiestyness flying around tonight!
Not at all, just balancing things out.
There is no drama, just people having different options. This is a forum after all!
I completely agree but, in my opinion, your initial comment following my initial post didn't exactly feel warm & fuzzy!"I didn't see anything other than an explaination of the responses in the forum so far. | |||
"Jeez there's some fiestyness flying around tonight!
Not at all, just balancing things out.
There is no drama, just people having different options. This is a forum after all!
I completely agree but, in my opinion, your initial comment following my initial post didn't exactly feel warm & fuzzy!
It wasn't meant to be warm and fuzzy but it was far than fiesty.
You said you hate to generalise then went on to do just that.
"I was typing a reply but then realised that sleep is more important. OP I hope you find the answers you seek!  | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding. "Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding. But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. | |||
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"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding.
Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding.
But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here."But the reason you haven't really got an answer to that is because it totally depends. There are many factors. It can vary depending what I'm after at that time. | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding.
Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding.
But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here."She thought it was going well, you both appeared to be enjoying what you had. You possibly hurt her by implying she was wrong in her understanding. She retaliated telling people you were a shit shag possibly. Doesn't mean you were a shit shag | |||
" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here." We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. | |||
"My expectations would depend on the person I'm meeting and the conversations we'd had before. There is no standard procedure. With regards to people wanting more, it's not just women I can assure you. At the end of the day we are engaging in typically "relationship" behaviour which includes intimacy, it's easy to see why sometimes emotions slip in, especially if you're seeing someone regularly. " Yes, that's cool. I'm not worried about which gender wants more. I'm interested in women's sexual expectations! | |||
"I make it clear from the get go it's all NSA...I dont want anything more than that. I like meeting up for a drink and social..but no dates, very rarely anything like dinner. Thsts not what I'm here for..." So when the man turns up, what do you expect from him? What would make him a shit shag? Lol | |||
"It depends so much on the situation and the person. It will seem like it's always women who want more if you only meet women. I'm sure most of us women who have met more men would say it's usually the guys wanting more. We're all different." It's definitely common with women. I wouldn't know about men as I don't meet them! | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding.
Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding.
But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here.
But the reason you haven't really got an answer to that is because it totally depends. There are many factors. It can vary depending what I'm after at that time. "Ok, this is going to be my research topic for the next week or so. Ha! | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding.
Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding.
But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here.
She thought it was going well, you both appeared to be enjoying what you had. You possibly hurt her by implying she was wrong in her understanding. She retaliated telling people you were a shit shag possibly. Doesn't mean you were a shit shag "That's also my understanding, but it does make me think; what do women want sexually? What makes a man a shit shag? | |||
"It depends so much on the situation and the person. It will seem like it's always women who want more if you only meet women. I'm sure most of us women who have met more men would say it's usually the guys wanting more. We're all different. It's definitely common with women. I wouldn't know about men as I don't meet them!" That's what she said. | |||
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"I make it clear from the get go it's all NSA...I dont want anything more than that. I like meeting up for a drink and social..but no dates, very rarely anything like dinner. Thsts not what I'm here for... So when the man turns up, what do you expect from him? What would make him a shit shag? Lol" When its not been as great as I've wanted before...I just make it good? Tell him what I like, show him, or just get in control and do my thing to get where I need to go. Just gotta make the most of it..so Mr big14u turned out to be ironically small and rubbish at pussy licking unlike his claim...so get him to fingeryou and get the didldo out then ride his face..obs wouldn't say..ou mate your rubbish at this..more..oh please do this for a while.. | |||
" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. " Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right? | |||
" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right?" Everyone is individual. We cannot give you the exacting answer you ask for. There is no exact amount of playtime or positions to define sexual satisfaction. | |||
" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right?" Depends what happened before the 5 mins...if your talking "session" time was 5 minutes in total...what a waste of a razor..and if I had booked a baby sitter... | |||
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"A shit shag for me is someone who is solely focused on getting themselves off, or happy to fuck once only. I personally love long sessions with lots of kissing, touching, sucking and fucking. I also like a little chat, but definitely NSA. I don't think it is only women who get too attached. I have had to give a FB the heave ho when he got too possessive and over-involved. " Ok, perfect... So man who is selfish sexually is a shit shag or a man who can only go once. Time and attention and chat make a guy good in bed. No idea about getting attached. It's certainly very common for women, but since I've not ever met a man sexually, I'm not able to enter into a dispute about it! | |||
"A shit shag for me is someone who is solely focused on getting themselves off, or happy to fuck once only. I personally love long sessions with lots of kissing, touching, sucking and fucking. I also like a little chat, Ok, perfect... So man who is selfish sexually is a shit shag or a man who can only go once. Time and attention and chat make a guy good in bed. No idea about getting attached. It's certainly very common for women, but since I've not ever met a man sexually, I'm not able to enter into a dispute about it!" I can get attached to cocks lol and the mind-blowing sex, but it is always NSA for me. | |||
"A shit shag for me is someone who is solely focused on getting themselves off, or happy to fuck once only. I personally love long sessions with lots of kissing, touching, sucking and fucking. I also like a little chat, but definitely NSA. I don't think it is only women who get too attached. I have had to give a FB the heave ho when he got too possessive and over-involved. Ok, perfect... So man who is selfish sexually is a shit shag or a man who can only go once. Time and attention and chat make a guy good in bed. No idea about getting attached. It's certainly very common for women, but since I've not ever met a man sexually, I'm not able to enter into a dispute about it!" But you are disputing our experiences of many men also wanting more than no strings. You make sweeping generalisations about most women wanting more. We tell you we experience the same, then you give the repetitive excuse that you don't meet men so don't know that they do  | |||
"I make it clear from the get go it's all NSA...I dont want anything more than that. I like meeting up for a drink and social..but no dates, very rarely anything like dinner. Thsts not what I'm here for... So when the man turns up, what do you expect from him? What would make him a shit shag? Lol When its not been as great as I've wanted before...I just make it good? Tell him what I like, show him, or just get in control and do my thing to get where I need to go. Just gotta make the most of it..so Mr big14u turned out to be ironically small and rubbish at pussy licking unlike his claim...so get him to fingeryou and get the didldo out then ride his face..obs wouldn't say..ou mate your rubbish at this..more..oh please do this for a while.." Ahhhh, that's very interesting... So if he doesn't know what you like, or if you have to help him, he can be a shit shag. Ooops! :o :o :o | |||
" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right? Everyone is individual. We cannot give you the exacting answer you ask for. There is no exact amount of playtime or positions to define sexual satisfaction. " That's cool, just vague guidance is interesting. | |||
" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right? Depends what happened before the 5 mins...if your talking "session" time was 5 minutes in total...what a waste of a razor..and if I had booked a baby sitter..." Yeah, that's an easy one to grasp. Obviously got to have more attention than that. So such a guy would be shit in bed. | |||
" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right? Depends what happened before the 5 mins...if your talking "session" time was 5 minutes in total...what a waste of a razor..and if I had booked a baby sitter... Yeah, that's an easy one to grasp. Obviously got to have more attention than that. So such a guy would be shit in bed." Yes!!! | |||
"It sounds to me as you were friends but she had expectations?? I’ve been there. But 6yrs on we are close friends still. I had the feels at first but then the sex was crap. Would you not continue the friendship? " Yeah, feels at first then after I said no, she said sex was crap. As far as I was aware, the sex didn't really change in quality! No, I wouldn't continue it because she went crazy afterwards, saying that I lied to her or something.. I never lied to her at all, I was crystal clear from the start. So, with your NSA relationship, why did the sex go crap? Was it simply because he said no to relationship? Why/how would that make the sex bad? | |||
"A shit shag for me is someone who is solely focused on getting themselves off, or happy to fuck once only. I personally love long sessions with lots of kissing, touching, sucking and fucking. I also like a little chat, but definitely NSA. I don't think it is only women who get too attached. I have had to give a FB the heave ho when he got too possessive and over-involved. Ok, perfect... So man who is selfish sexually is a shit shag or a man who can only go once. Time and attention and chat make a guy good in bed. No idea about getting attached. It's certainly very common for women, but since I've not ever met a man sexually, I'm not able to enter into a dispute about it! But you are disputing our experiences of many men also wanting more than no strings. You make sweeping generalisations about most women wanting more. We tell you we experience the same, then you give the repetitive excuse that you don't meet men so don't know that they do "With all due respect, please could you quote where I have disputed your experiences of many men? I made a generalisation about women because I'm telling you the truth as far as I see it. Again, I'm not disputing that men do or don't get attached, I think you may be confusing me with another poster. Please quote me! | |||
"It sounds to me as you were friends but she had expectations?? I’ve been there. But 6yrs on we are close friends still. I had the feels at first but then the sex was crap. Would you not continue the friendship? Yeah, feels at first then after I said no, she said sex was crap. As far as I was aware, the sex didn't really change in quality! No, I wouldn't continue it because she went crazy afterwards, saying that I lied to her or something.. I never lied to her at all, I was crystal clear from the start. So, with your NSA relationship, why did the sex go crap? Was it simply because he said no to relationship? Why/how would that make the sex bad?" No it was more like we were friends than sexually compatible, don’t get me wrong occasionally we Fook but we are both single. But foremost we’ve became friends very close friends, he’s helped me out loads over the years. | |||
"I make it clear from the get go it's all NSA...I dont want anything more than that. I like meeting up for a drink and social..but no dates, very rarely anything like dinner. Thsts not what I'm here for... So when the man turns up, what do you expect from him? What would make him a shit shag? Lol When its not been as great as I've wanted before...I just make it good? Tell him what I like, show him, or just get in control and do my thing to get where I need to go. Just gotta make the most of it..so Mr big14u turned out to be ironically small and rubbish at pussy licking unlike his claim...so get him to fingeryou and get the didldo out then ride his face..obs wouldn't say..ou mate your rubbish at this..more..oh please do this for a while.. Ahhhh, that's very interesting... So if he doesn't know what you like, or if you have to help him, he can be a shit shag. Ooops! :o :o :o " No because he wouldn't be a shit shag in the end..hes not gonna know what I like anyway at that point, ..if when shown and told and guided still dont press my buttons, that's when he is shit, or just concerned about himself. 2 of my "vanilla" friends ( who think they know but would die at the truth) tell me I have sex like a man now lol ..meaning they way I can use a site like this to meet people and could have an amazing night and not feel the need to see them again.. | |||
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"It sounds to me as you were friends but she had expectations?? I’ve been there. But 6yrs on we are close friends still. I had the feels at first but then the sex was crap. Would you not continue the friendship? Yeah, feels at first then after I said no, she said sex was crap. As far as I was aware, the sex didn't really change in quality! No, I wouldn't continue it because she went crazy afterwards, saying that I lied to her or something.. I never lied to her at all, I was crystal clear from the start. So, with your NSA relationship, why did the sex go crap? Was it simply because he said no to relationship? Why/how would that make the sex bad? No it was more like we were friends than sexually compatible, don’t get me wrong occasionally we Fook but we are both single. But foremost we’ve became friends very close friends, he’s helped me out loads over the years. " Ok, so we can add "sexual understanding/connection" to the list. | |||
"I make it clear from the get go it's all NSA...I dont want anything more than that. I like meeting up for a drink and social..but no dates, very rarely anything like dinner. Thsts not what I'm here for... So when the man turns up, what do you expect from him? What would make him a shit shag? Lol When its not been as great as I've wanted before...I just make it good? Tell him what I like, show him, or just get in control and do my thing to get where I need to go. Just gotta make the most of it..so Mr big14u turned out to be ironically small and rubbish at pussy licking unlike his claim...so get him to fingeryou and get the didldo out then ride his face..obs wouldn't say..ou mate your rubbish at this..more..oh please do this for a while.. Ahhhh, that's very interesting... So if he doesn't know what you like, or if you have to help him, he can be a shit shag. Ooops! :o :o :o No because he wouldn't be a shit shag in the end..hes not gonna know what I like anyway at that point, ..if when shown and told and guided still dont press my buttons, that's when he is shit, or just concerned about himself. 2 of my "vanilla" friends ( who think they know but would die at the truth) tell me I have sex like a man now lol ..meaning they way I can use a site like this to meet people and could have an amazing night and not feel the need to see them again.." Ahhhh, well this is getting interesting now. Maybe I'm not as good as I thought! :o :D | |||
"I make it clear from the get go it's all NSA...I dont want anything more than that. I like meeting up for a drink and social..but no dates, very rarely anything like dinner. Thsts not what I'm here for... So when the man turns up, what do you expect from him? What would make him a shit shag? Lol When its not been as great as I've wanted before...I just make it good? Tell him what I like, show him, or just get in control and do my thing to get where I need to go. Just gotta make the most of it..so Mr big14u turned out to be ironically small and rubbish at pussy licking unlike his claim...so get him to fingeryou and get the didldo out then ride his face..obs wouldn't say..ou mate your rubbish at this..more..oh please do this for a while.. Ahhhh, that's very interesting... So if he doesn't know what you like, or if you have to help him, he can be a shit shag. Ooops! :o :o :o No because he wouldn't be a shit shag in the end..hes not gonna know what I like anyway at that point, ..if when shown and told and guided still dont press my buttons, that's when he is shit, or just concerned about himself. 2 of my "vanilla" friends ( who think they know but would die at the truth) tell me I have sex like a man now lol ..meaning they way I can use a site like this to meet people and could have an amazing night and not feel the need to see them again.. Ahhhh, well this is getting interesting now. Maybe I'm not as good as I thought! :o :D" Depends how good you think you are? Lol | |||
"I make it clear from the get go it's all NSA...I dont want anything more than that. I like meeting up for a drink and social..but no dates, very rarely anything like dinner. Thsts not what I'm here for... So when the man turns up, what do you expect from him? What would make him a shit shag? Lol When its not been as great as I've wanted before...I just make it good? Tell him what I like, show him, or just get in control and do my thing to get where I need to go. Just gotta make the most of it..so Mr big14u turned out to be ironically small and rubbish at pussy licking unlike his claim...so get him to fingeryou and get the didldo out then ride his face..obs wouldn't say..ou mate your rubbish at this..more..oh please do this for a while.. Ahhhh, that's very interesting... So if he doesn't know what you like, or if you have to help him, he can be a shit shag. Ooops! :o :o :o No because he wouldn't be a shit shag in the end..hes not gonna know what I like anyway at that point, ..if when shown and told and guided still dont press my buttons, that's when he is shit, or just concerned about himself. 2 of my "vanilla" friends ( who think they know but would die at the truth) tell me I have sex like a man now lol ..meaning they way I can use a site like this to meet people and could have an amazing night and not feel the need to see them again.. Ahhhh, well this is getting interesting now. Maybe I'm not as good as I thought! :o :D Depends how good you think you are? Lol "Well, to be honest, as I was reading the comments, I was feeling better and better in bed... Until I read yours ha! I'm shit at mind reading. How the hell do I know how a woman likes it? Lol. Having said that, I'll be fine as other men will be in the same boat.:D | |||
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" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right?" None of that is quantifiable. 5 minutes can be just as satisfying as an hour if it's the right person at the right time. Sometimes I want flipped around and fucked all over the place, other times I'd happily stay in the same position the whole time. You seem very set on pinning down some kind of go-to routine, I can assure you there is no bigger turn off than a man who doesn't know how to read the mood at the moment and go with it. | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding.
Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding.
But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here.
She thought it was going well, you both appeared to be enjoying what you had. You possibly hurt her by implying she was wrong in her understanding. She retaliated telling people you were a shit shag possibly. Doesn't mean you were a shit shag " | |||
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"Being good in bed is definitely not about mind reading. A guy will not know what I like unless we have talked about likes/dislikes prior to meet. It is about being willing to explore and wanting to turn me on and keep building the intensity that really makes a guy a good shag. If things aren't quite right also being open to me becoming more assertive and gently leading is great too. " Ok ok, this is good info! | |||
"And I memt what I said I a productive way...if he not doing what you want...show him how kinda way? I'm not got just lay back pretended it's all mc Donald's while it really isnt..I dont get alot of free time so getting to know someone really well isnt wasy possible. If I have a one off or something I wanna come out satisfied.. dont get me wrong...he does too lmao "Haha, I understand! | |||
"Well I'm a shit shag but if the girl loves cowgirl then all is good "Haha, yes, there's always hat option! | |||
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"Hard to say what expectations are really. I find sex shit with someone I don't get to know well. The best sexual encounters I have had are when I am friends with that person and you feel like you can explore new things together without worrying about judgement. Plus sex is messy. Someone you can laugh and joke with naturally makes really good sex. If I want to keep seeing someone they know that I am enjoying them. " Ok, so knowing the person and being relaxed with him can make him good in bed too. This is interesting stuff. | |||
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"And I memt what I said I a productive way...if he not doing what you want...show him how kinda way? I'm not got just lay back pretended it's all mc Donald's while it really isnt..I dont get alot of free time so getting to know someone really well isnt wasy possible. If I have a one off or something I wanna come out satisfied.. dont get me wrong...he does too lmao
Haha, I understand!"Was just clearing thatast bit up..I realise in my first bit i could of sounded all me me and no you at all lol end of the day, you only get out what you put in. | |||
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" But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here. We want to have fun and feel satisfied, the same as guys do. We want to feel sexy and attractive and spend time with someone who takes their time to read and respond to our bodies and reactions just as we will with them. Yes! This is the sort of answer I was expecting! So, how do you feel satisfied? Do you mean satisfied sexually? Is it about the amount of playtime? The amount of sex, positions or what? Does orgasming satisfy you? Many women don't orgasm from sex. I think sometimes it's very hard for a man to know how to satisfy. Say if a man did have sex, and he lasted 5 mins and went home, obviously, that's a shit shag, right? None of that is quantifiable. 5 minutes can be just as satisfying as an hour if it's the right person at the right time. Sometimes I want flipped around and fucked all over the place, other times I'd happily stay in the same position the whole time. You seem very set on pinning down some kind of go-to routine, I can assure you there is no bigger turn off than a man who doesn't know how to read the mood at the moment and go with it. " I'm not set on pinning down a routine. I don't have a routine and I think that would be weird. I'm asking for pointers on what you ladies think makes a man good/bad in bed, that's all. That shouldn't imply anything about forming a routine. So far, I'm finding this to be very interesting and helpful. | |||
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"OP you seem to have a hard time hearing what people are saying... It has been said by everyone that your question is subjective. It depends on personal circumstances and there is no one size fits all in this category. I am seeing that you are making a list of what not to do based on the vague answers that people are giving you. Please, you cannot force an answer to box away what this lady has said about you. It is most likely in response to your blazè comment about not dating, even if it is NSA I would have been offended by that reaction from you (although I'm not one to start rumours either so...)" I'm not struggling to hear what people are saying. It's clear that people have different opinions and it's clear that there are different circumstances which influence opinions, however, this is still very interesting and I'm glad I asked. I'm going to read through it later on. I don't think a man should be afraid to ask such questions, neither be afraid of the answers. It's interesting to read people's opinions, even if they aren't black and white. | |||
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"At the very least i would expect honesty, and great sex. I didn’t sign up to Fab to be led a merry dance nor to have shit sex. If the sex is amazing i can get dickmatised, especially if the fella is lovely. However, that will pass. But start being overly attentive, throwing me goo goo eyes, etc then i may misinterept that to a fella liking me too. Especially if there is good chemistry. And unless you have clarified to me that you don’t want a relationship with me, because of X, Y, or Z, then you’re in danger of me picking up that feelings ball and running with it. I like clear communication." That's interesting. I love the honesty here. It's great to get I bit of an insight into the brain of a woman. | |||
"And I memt what I said I a productive way...if he not doing what you want...show him how kinda way? I'm not got just lay back pretended it's all mc Donald's while it really isnt..I dont get alot of free time so getting to know someone really well isnt wasy possible. If I have a one off or something I wanna come out satisfied.. dont get me wrong...he does too lmao
Haha, I understand!
Was just clearing thatast bit up..I realise in my first bit i could of sounded all me me and no you at all lol end of the day, you only get out what you put in. "Not at all, the question in itself was directed to you, the woman. I'm not interested in hearing about the man. Lol. | |||
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"Isn't that how a lot of relationships start in general ? It’s hard when the feelings are one sided and she did the right thing by ending the fun before she got to attached, NSA fun has a lifespan in my experience " I agree. | |||
"And I memt what I said I a productive way...if he not doing what you want...show him how kinda way? I'm not got just lay back pretended it's all mc Donald's while it really isnt..I dont get alot of free time so getting to know someone really well isnt wasy possible. If I have a one off or something I wanna come out satisfied.. dont get me wrong...he does too lmao
Haha, I understand!
Was just clearing thatast bit up..I realise in my first bit i could of sounded all me me and no you at all lol end of the day, you only get out what you put in.
Not at all, the question in itself was directed to you, the woman. I'm not interested in hearing about the man. Lol. "Phew...cause I just roll over and fall asleep after I'm done now...maybe that's what they ment about " having sex like a man" pmsl | |||
"Inbox my your address OP and I will send you a copy of my book on this subject " Are you serious? I'm interested in psychology. I've read quite a bit about such subjects; sexuality, etc. | |||
"You know..it would be much easier to show you my idea of NSA fun. Help you understand. Purely for your research and data gathering for this scientific experiment...there you go..science.. I'll bang you in the name of science lmao #justsaying " Hahaha! Do I get to wear a lab-coat and splash proof glasses? | |||
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"And I memt what I said I a productive way...if he not doing what you want...show him how kinda way? I'm not got just lay back pretended it's all mc Donald's while it really isnt..I dont get alot of free time so getting to know someone really well isnt wasy possible. If I have a one off or something I wanna come out satisfied.. dont get me wrong...he does too lmao
Haha, I understand!
Was just clearing thatast bit up..I realise in my first bit i could of sounded all me me and no you at all lol end of the day, you only get out what you put in.
Not at all, the question in itself was directed to you, the woman. I'm not interested in hearing about the man. Lol.
Phew...cause I just roll over and fall asleep after I'm done now...maybe that's what they ment about " having sex like a man" pmsl"Haha! Sex like a man! Do they mean the "Right love, I'm done, cheers! See you!" Sort of attitude? Lol. | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding.
Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding.
But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here."What constitutes a ‘shit shag’ - or indeed a great shag - would differ from one person to the next I imagine! To me a shit shag would be one that was over very quickly with no affection etc before or after and/or a total lack of chemistry for one or both parties! The fact that you met and had sex on far more than one occasion would indicate that she didn’t find you a ‘shit shag’! As someone suggested - it’s quite likely that she got the feels and realised you didn’t feel the same! For some people it’s far easier to be unkind about others than it is to be honest about themselves unfortunately! Getting feelings for people is totally ok and human - it’s only an issue when it’s not reciprocated! | |||
"You know..it would be much easier to show you my idea of NSA fun. Help you understand. Purely for your research and data gathering for this scientific experiment...there you go..science.. I'll bang you in the name of science lmao #justsaying Hahaha! Do I get to wear a lab-coat and splash proof glasses?" If that's scientific for naked...then yeah go for it. Second thoughts, best bring the glasses. | |||
"Why is it always the woman's fault? Surely you didn't think going out for dinner and drinks before the main event wouldn't be misconstrued as dates, NSA or not.. I know a few men on here who prefer to call their meets dates, so as to have the feeling of making them a little bit more personal.. Communication is key here i think and also being on the same page in what both want to get out of the experience " Why are we pinning blame on anyone? I'd say it was nobody's fault, but if there was a person at fault, surely that would be me? The problem with saying 'dates' is that it can give the wrong impression. I like to be clear, because from experience, it leads to major problems later on down the line. | |||
"To hit orgasm targets i set myself "Ha, the joys of being male! | |||
"And I memt what I said I a productive way...if he not doing what you want...show him how kinda way? I'm not got just lay back pretended it's all mc Donald's while it really isnt..I dont get alot of free time so getting to know someone really well isnt wasy possible. If I have a one off or something I wanna come out satisfied.. dont get me wrong...he does too lmao
Haha, I understand!
Was just clearing thatast bit up..I realise in my first bit i could of sounded all me me and no you at all lol end of the day, you only get out what you put in.
Not at all, the question in itself was directed to you, the woman. I'm not interested in hearing about the man. Lol.
Phew...cause I just roll over and fall asleep after I'm done now...maybe that's what they ment about " having sex like a man" pmsl
Haha! Sex like a man! Do they mean the "Right love, I'm done, cheers! See you!" Sort of attitude? Lol. " | |||
"To hit orgasm targets i set myself
Ha, the joys of being male!"No the joys of being competitive | |||
"A 'few fucks' ? Classy
Probably
Yeah, who knows... Depends on the mood, etc...
You were enjoying the meals and drinks part of the meetings, but as soon as she used the term date, you reared up and said it was only about the sex
No, I didn't rear up and say it was only about sex. I said "Nah, these aren't dates, were friends!".
Your quote said she offered you a 'no strings relationship', not no strings sex. A relationship to me implies more than fuck and go. Some social interaction included. That is what was happening, but the word date just caused misunderstanding.
Well 'no strings attached'... She wanted sex. It was more than a fuck and go. There was a lot of social interaction. It appears that the word 'date' did cause some misunderstanding.
But! That's not the point of this thread anyway. The point is that it got round that I was a 'shit shag'... In turn, that got me thinking, 'What does a woman want sexually?'... That's why I come here to ask. Usually, I can learn a great deal from comments on here.
What constitutes a ‘shit shag’ - or indeed a great shag - would differ from one person to the next I imagine!
To me a shit shag would be one that was over very quickly with no affection etc before or after and/or a total lack of chemistry for one or both parties!
The fact that you met and had sex on far more than one occasion would indicate that she didn’t find you a ‘shit shag’!
As someone suggested - it’s quite likely that she got the feels and realised you didn’t feel the same!
For some people it’s far easier to be unkind about others than it is to be honest about themselves unfortunately!
Getting feelings for people is totally ok and human - it’s only an issue when it’s not reciprocated!
"It doesn't differ as much as I expected it to! What you've said is similar to some other women. This is interesting stuff! Yeah, I'm not offended by how she acted, I guess she was just pissed off. | |||
"You know..it would be much easier to show you my idea of NSA fun. Help you understand. Purely for your research and data gathering for this scientific experiment...there you go..science.. I'll bang you in the name of science lmao #justsaying Hahaha! Do I get to wear a lab-coat and splash proof glasses? If that's scientific for naked...then yeah go for it. Second thoughts, best bring the glasses. " Haha! | |||
"To hit orgasm targets i set myself
Ha, the joys of being male!
No the joys of being competitive "Do you have an excel spreadsheet of statistics? Lol, what are your stats so far this month? Ha! | |||
"To hit orgasm targets i set myself
Ha, the joys of being male!
No the joys of being competitive
Do you have an excel spreadsheet of statistics? Lol, what are your stats so far this month? Ha!"have you hacked my computer i do yes at the end of each meet they also get a questionaire too | |||
"Well I'm a shit shag but if the girl loves cowgirl then all is good
I be the judge of that "As long as I get to lay there and play with boobies, game on | |||
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