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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down. "
Quite where I was coming from, yes. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"They mean they were a lousy husband, but a good dad.
If you hear them say it, ask them what they mean."
If everybody did that, there wouldn't be a forum. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s a hard thing to leave your family it’s not a decision that is made lightly but if you don’t get on anymore the hate builds and if you leave it too long you lose everything |
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?"
I don't see what one has to do with the other really........but I was a great dad? And what you should be anyway....regardless |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"To me, I would suggest he treated his wife badly but treated his kids like any other loving father does
Good work columbo."
To be fair, it wasn’t hard to get to that conclusion  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"To me, I would suggest he treated his wife badly but treated his kids like any other loving father does "
I'm sure that's what he meant yes. I can't quite put my finger on why but it just sounds a bit crass |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"He liked a screw behind his wife's back but he still took the kids to school.
Dontbthink he's the only man in that particular boat"
It's to brag about though is it? Surely he's just going what he should be doing?
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When some men do what are really the basics, they get called "good dads".
So you've changed a nappy ,bought a pair of shoes and usually pick your kid up on time, well whoopy do.
Sorry but that doesn't qualify them for a Victoria Cross.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?"
I was a twat to my wife but said hello to my kids every morning? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down. "
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)"
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge."
You can pin me....down...and fuck me. |
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"I dunno but I couldn’t pick his flipper.
This brilliant comment will be overlooked for some less worthy ones."
His slider was impossible to pick aswell...
And might re read the Daryl Cullinan episode! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me."
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me. |
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
I don't see what one has to do with the other really........but I was a great dad? And what you should be anyway....regardless "
Spot on why even bother having kids if you are not prepared to be a good parent
Nothing stops a good parent being one |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me."
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
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What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
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How d*unk are you? |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
How d*unk are you?"
*hic*
Very.
Why?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
How d*unk are you?
*hic*
Very.
Why?
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I was just thinking about the trial. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Self assessment is pointless imho.... Unless someone else tells you then it doesn't count.... "
who's to say their opinion is any more valid than your own?
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
How d*unk are you?
*hic*
Very.
Why?
I was just thinking about the trial."
Want. You. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
How d*unk are you?
*hic*
Very.
Why?
I was just thinking about the trial.
Want. You."
You want me to pin you down and fuck you while you're wankered.
I could get 6 to 8 years for that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?"
It's a statement. Why are you looking for deeper meaning? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
How d*unk are you?
*hic*
Very.
Why?
I was just thinking about the trial.
Want. You.
You want me to pin you down and fuck you while you're wankered.
I would need 6 to 8 beers for that."
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
How d*unk are you?
*hic*
Very.
Why?
I was just thinking about the trial.
Want. You.
You want me to pin you down and fuck you while you're wankered.
I could get 6 to 8 years for that."
I promise to let you home tomorrow. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
Don’t hate me please.
(Is what they mean)
Sorry I missed it, not used forgetting replies.
I guess, partly, yes.
But mostly I think they're looking for a badge.
You can pin me....down...and fuck me.
I can still call myself a good dad after so i can't see anything stopping me.
Don’t ask me to call you daddy.
How d*unk are you?
*hic*
Very.
Why?
I was just thinking about the trial.
Want. You.
You want me to pin you down and fuck you while you're wankered.
I would need 6 to 8 beers for that."
Chess loser. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do. "
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea"
Well put. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It means exactly what he said.
It's not a riddle.
What a silly thread!?
I can say I'm a great brain surgeon, doesn't mean I actually am...."
And I am 10" and last for days!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?"
I think you’ve over thought this one. It does what it says on the tin. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’d say that... no interest in, nor being with my soon to be ex wife but we both make sure the little one doesn’t miss out on anything, I see plenty of him, am involved in significant decisions and if anything additional is needed in regards to his care, she speaks to me first.
Just means the relationship didn’t work, but we know that’s our fault not his. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea"
My experiences are quite different to yours, it seems. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?
I think you’ve over thought this one. It does what it says on the tin. "
Definitely, maybe, possibly, could be.
It just tied with something that was said to me this week. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Self assessment is pointless imho.... Unless someone else tells you then it doesn't count.... who's to say their opinion is any more valid than your own?"
What I meant was that another person could tell me I'm a good dad based on what they see and how I get on with my daughter, and that's a verification with some basis. But if I just tell another person I'm a good dad it's just me saying it, no? I could well be talking bollocks and making it up.... Like when fab dudes say they have great oral skills on their profile etc....
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Shane Warne said on tv tonight that "I was a lousy husband but I was still a good dad".
I hear other divorced dads say this. What do they mean?"
They failed in one aspect but not in the other. It can be tough. We don't all get it right. Better than failing at both. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Being a supposedly good dad (or mum for that matter) is like being a supposedly good driver. There's no room for complacency, it only takes one crash and your life could be in a mess. |
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea Well put."
Completely agree.  |
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"Being a supposedly good dad (or mum for that matter) is like being a supposedly good driver. There's no room for complacency, it only takes one crash and your life could be in a mess."
Thing about parenting is as long as you learn from the crashes, you're alright.....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its just not something you claim."
I agree...
Its usually something someone else confers on you ie 'he was a crap husband but at least he was a good dad' |
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea"
I wasn't referencing fault or wrong doing in the relationship breaking down. I was talking only about the parenting responsibilities and how many women are left with sole parental responsibility and just get on with it, without the need to tell people that they were or are a good mum, it just goes without saying. My ex now has the kids 50% of the time since his partner moved in with him, so he does exactly what I do. He gets so many compliments, being told he's a gear dad fir having them and being so hands on. Nobody praises me for looking after my own children, and I wouldn't expect it either. In fact, when I've told people our arrangements some people have commented on what a good dad he is and that it must be nice for me to have a break from them, as if he is doing me a favour by looking after his own children. All children deserve attentive and dedicated parents and neither sex should be showered with praise for performing a basic duty.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Their ex wife hates them, but their kid/s dont"
I think you're right there. My parents are divorced so i know that statement probably isn't true for a lot of men
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By *stellaWoman
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea
I wasn't referencing fault or wrong doing in the relationship breaking down. I was talking only about the parenting responsibilities and how many women are left with sole parental responsibility and just get on with it, without the need to tell people that they were or are a good mum, it just goes without saying. My ex now has the kids 50% of the time since his partner moved in with him, so he does exactly what I do. He gets so many compliments, being told he's a gear dad fir having them and being so hands on. Nobody praises me for looking after my own children, and I wouldn't expect it either. In fact, when I've told people our arrangements some people have commented on what a good dad he is and that it must be nice for me to have a break from them, as if he is doing me a favour by looking after his own children. All children deserve attentive and dedicated parents and neither sex should be showered with praise for performing a basic duty.
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea
I wasn't referencing fault or wrong doing in the relationship breaking down. I was talking only about the parenting responsibilities and how many women are left with sole parental responsibility and just get on with it, without the need to tell people that they were or are a good mum, it just goes without saying. My ex now has the kids 50% of the time since his partner moved in with him, so he does exactly what I do. He gets so many compliments, being told he's a gear dad fir having them and being so hands on. Nobody praises me for looking after my own children, and I wouldn't expect it either. In fact, when I've told people our arrangements some people have commented on what a good dad he is and that it must be nice for me to have a break from them, as if he is doing me a favour by looking after his own children. All children deserve attentive and dedicated parents and neither sex should be showered with praise for performing a basic duty.
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"Only ppl that can say your a good parent are the kids.....end of "
That's what we'd like to believe, but I'm going to disagree. Sometimes an outside perspective can give clarity, sometimes kids only know what they have and have little to compare it with....and if your statement is true then , they can't tell if other kids have good parents to compare with. If that makes sense? |
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"Only ppl that can say your a good parent are the kids.....end of
That's what we'd like to believe, but I'm going to disagree. Sometimes an outside perspective can give clarity, sometimes kids only know what they have and have little to compare it with....and if your statement is true then , they can't tell if other kids have good parents to compare with. If that makes sense?"
Outside perspective? Who are? And then they have different parenting styles who,s to say which parenting is the best? Do we raise them vegetarian? Meat eaters? Which one is best? Home school? Main stream? See my point |
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea
I wasn't referencing fault or wrong doing in the relationship breaking down. I was talking only about the parenting responsibilities and how many women are left with sole parental responsibility and just get on with it, without the need to tell people that they were or are a good mum, it just goes without saying. My ex now has the kids 50% of the time since his partner moved in with him, so he does exactly what I do. He gets so many compliments, being told he's a gear dad fir having them and being so hands on. Nobody praises me for looking after my own children, and I wouldn't expect it either. In fact, when I've told people our arrangements some people have commented on what a good dad he is and that it must be nice for me to have a break from them, as if he is doing me a favour by looking after his own children. All children deserve attentive and dedicated parents and neither sex should be showered with praise for performing a basic duty.
Well said! "
No, they shouldnt be praised for performing basic human values. But the media and the older members of society, do tend to still think kids are always better off with their mother full time and any bloke that does the bulk of parenting or even housework is either effeminate or is poncing off his partner or the state. Its going to take years before those views are a very small minority. |
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"I have no idea. You don't often get women saying "I was a lousy wife but a great mum" when their relationship breaks down.
No but when a relationship breaks down, how often is the man blamed in situations where both were at fault?
Tea
What's that got to do with the question asked? Claiming credit for fulfilling your parental duties through a separation or divorce is, in my mind, a peculiar thing to do.
It is indeed.
I was responding to your post about women stating the opposite; in that you rarely see it because women are rarely asked to defend their parenting or marriage failures. In my experience at any rate.
Tea
I wasn't referencing fault or wrong doing in the relationship breaking down. I was talking only about the parenting responsibilities and how many women are left with sole parental responsibility and just get on with it, without the need to tell people that they were or are a good mum, it just goes without saying. My ex now has the kids 50% of the time since his partner moved in with him, so he does exactly what I do. He gets so many compliments, being told he's a gear dad fir having them and being so hands on. Nobody praises me for looking after my own children, and I wouldn't expect it either. In fact, when I've told people our arrangements some people have commented on what a good dad he is and that it must be nice for me to have a break from them, as if he is doing me a favour by looking after his own children. All children deserve attentive and dedicated parents and neither sex should be showered with praise for performing a basic duty.
Well said!
No, they shouldnt be praised for performing basic human values. But the media and the older members of society, do tend to still think kids are always better off with their mother full time and any bloke that does the bulk of parenting or even housework is either effeminate or is poncing off his partner or the state. Its going to take years before those views are a very small minority."
i dont personally know of anyone in my life that has thought that way for the last 30 years. People should pay less attention to media and more to whats going on around them. Every father i know who can has as much input into his kids life as he possibly can |
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