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Wtf is all the hype over banksy?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob"
In your opinion...have they painted your shed?, you seem pissed by him/her personally |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob"
He won't mind that you feel that way. He is in on the joke regarding his elevation by a body that he holds a certain amount of contempt for...... |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
I like seeing a Banksy and live where I can see a fair few.
I have wondered if I produced something that could pass as a Banksy and it gets, wrongly, attributed to Banksy does that make it a Banksy? |
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His popularity is all down to the ‘Street’ phenomenon. If it’s ‘Street’ it’s non-conformist, it’s radical, it’s 2 fingers to the Establishment, it understands the kids of today, it represents the disenfranchised youth etc ... Street Art, Street Food, Street Speak, Street Dress etc etc.
I think Banksy art is totally overrated & overhyped .... but I’d probably still hang one in my back bedroom .... cos it looks over my street |
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Banksy is important because he represents graffitti as an artform but his peices are also, always a commentry on social issues! His ‘unknown’ status only adds to his status in this fame hungry society!
Genius!
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A art collectior as just had a bansky painting moved well more this drawing on a wall thing being a garage wall. That somehow came down in one piece. Saw the article on fb earlier. The bloke helping move it said it was the most stressful task job out of some of the unusual stuff. I guess this bansky is very important to many |
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over a year ago
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob"
Yes you may be right but just think the knob ain't going to worry what you think as he sells his next bit of work |
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over a year ago
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"He’s got massive wealthy behind him to market his scribbles. Just like that idiot Alec monopoly. (who manages to make even worse scribbles)"
I wouldn't say I'm a particular fan of his work but it's very dense to call his work " scribbles ". I doubt if you did any graffiti it would be as good.
His work is more than just the usual words sprayed on a garage wall, but there are other artists out there that get far less credit and produce work, that i'm my opinion is better.
Look at someone like Damien Hirst though. He's made millions out of cutting up animals. His for artwork isn't even created by him. He gets others to paint them for him. I would say he's far more overrated. Or was in the nineties.
Now he just dates models half his age. I wonder what they see in him... |
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"He’s got massive wealthy behind him to market his scribbles. Just like that idiot Alec monopoly. (who manages to make even worse scribbles)
I wouldn't say I'm a particular fan of his work but it's very dense to call his work " scribbles ". I doubt if you did any graffiti it would be as good.
His work is more than just the usual words sprayed on a garage wall, but there are other artists out there that get far less credit and produce work, that i'm my opinion is better.
Look at someone like Damien Hirst though. He's made millions out of cutting up animals. His for artwork isn't even created by him. He gets others to paint them for him. I would say he's far more overrated. Or was in the nineties.
Now he just dates models half his age. I wonder what they see in him... "
Dot not for. |
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"He’s got massive wealthy behind him to market his scribbles. Just like that idiot Alec monopoly. (who manages to make even worse scribbles)
I wouldn't say I'm a particular fan of his work but it's very dense to call his work " scribbles ". I doubt if you did any graffiti it would be as good.
His work is more than just the usual words sprayed on a garage wall, but there are other artists out there that get far less credit and produce work, that i'm my opinion is better.
Look at someone like Damien Hirst though. He's made millions out of cutting up animals. His for artwork isn't even created by him. He gets others to paint them for him. I would say he's far more overrated. Or was in the nineties.
Now he just dates models half his age. I wonder what they see in him... "
You do realize that he uses stencils.....
I find you rather dense for assuming me to be dense for having an opinion.
Good day. |
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yeah he is unknown until the money that he gets for his stencils are transferred into his account. I read it is more than 1 person and he is part of the establishment. people should vandalize his work. OP is right he is a knob. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He’s got massive wealthy behind him to market his scribbles. Just like that idiot Alec monopoly. (who manages to make even worse scribbles)
I wouldn't say I'm a particular fan of his work but it's very dense to call his work " scribbles ". I doubt if you did any graffiti it would be as good.
His work is more than just the usual words sprayed on a garage wall, but there are other artists out there that get far less credit and produce work, that i'm my opinion is better.
Look at someone like Damien Hirst though. He's made millions out of cutting up animals. His for artwork isn't even created by him. He gets others to paint them for him. I would say he's far more overrated. Or was in the nineties.
Now he just dates models half his age. I wonder what they see in him...
You do realize that he uses stencils.....
I find you rather dense for assuming me to be dense for having an opinion.
Good day. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He’s got massive wealthy behind him to market his scribbles. Just like that idiot Alec monopoly. (who manages to make even worse scribbles)
I wouldn't say I'm a particular fan of his work but it's very dense to call his work " scribbles ". I doubt if you did any graffiti it would be as good.
His work is more than just the usual words sprayed on a garage wall, but there are other artists out there that get far less credit and produce work, that i'm my opinion is better.
Look at someone like Damien Hirst though. He's made millions out of cutting up animals. His for artwork isn't even created by him. He gets others to paint them for him. I would say he's far more overrated. Or was in the nineties.
Now he just dates models half his age. I wonder what they see in him... "
Interesting comment about Hirst not creating his art, this isn't uncommon, Leonardo DaVinci had artists paint for him, Rubens painted the faces and hands, Warhol had his factory, Weiwei didn't personally make all those porcelain sunflower seeds! I'm merely naming a few off the top of my head there are so many.
As for Banksy I have no opinion on him, but he seems to divide opinion. |
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"He’s got massive wealthy behind him to market his scribbles. Just like that idiot Alec monopoly. (who manages to make even worse scribbles)
I wouldn't say I'm a particular fan of his work but it's very dense to call his work " scribbles ". I doubt if you did any graffiti it would be as good.
His work is more than just the usual words sprayed on a garage wall, but there are other artists out there that get far less credit and produce work, that i'm my opinion is better.
Look at someone like Damien Hirst though. He's made millions out of cutting up animals. His for artwork isn't even created by him. He gets others to paint them for him. I would say he's far more overrated. Or was in the nineties.
Now he just dates models half his age. I wonder what they see in him...
You do realize that he uses stencils.....
I find you rather dense for assuming me to be dense for having an opinion.
Good day.
*realise"
Incorrect. I think it’s time that you had a look at the oxford/Cambridge dictionary. |
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Art comes in many ways and forms, what some love some will hate, same with Banksy
Personally I like something that catches my attention, like a street artist in Eastern Europe who is changing the look of everyday outside pavements, plants, etc by adding characters to them. It makes me think what is going through your head that what we just see as a or a crack in the pavement is the start of your canvas, as an example.
Then you have things deemed “modern” art.... 6 blue painted squares on a wall; a white canvas with paint thrown at it, something I imagine my kid to bring back from nursery; or my favourite a carpet (no pattern) just hanging on the wall
If we all liked the same thing life would be very boring and we’d have nothing to discuss ! |
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"Art comes in many ways and forms, what some love some will hate, same with Banksy
Personally I like something that catches my attention, like a street artist in Eastern Europe who is changing the look of everyday outside pavements, plants, etc by adding characters to them. It makes me think what is going through your head that what we just see as a or a crack in the pavement is the start of your canvas, as an example.
Then you have things deemed “modern” art.... 6 blue painted squares on a wall; a white canvas with paint thrown at it, something I imagine my kid to bring back from nursery; or my favourite a carpet (no pattern) just hanging on the wall
If we all liked the same thing life would be very boring and we’d have nothing to discuss !" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Art comes in many ways and forms, what some love some will hate, same with Banksy
Personally I like something that catches my attention, like a street artist in Eastern Europe who is changing the look of everyday outside pavements, plants, etc by adding characters to them. It makes me think what is going through your head that what we just see as a or a crack in the pavement is the start of your canvas, as an example.
Then you have things deemed “modern” art.... 6 blue painted squares on a wall; a white canvas with paint thrown at it, something I imagine my kid to bring back from nursery; or my favourite a carpet (no pattern) just hanging on the wall
If we all liked the same thing life would be very boring and we’d have nothing to discuss !"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I like seeing a Banksy and live where I can see a fair few.
I have wondered if I produced something that could pass as a Banksy and it gets, wrongly, attributed to Banksy does that make it a Banksy? "
Try it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob"
Ok his stencilling isn’t for everything but he’s got great marketing. A bit like Zorro. |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
Ok his stencilling isn’t for everything but he’s got great marketing. A bit like Zorro."
Whoops everyone not everything |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
Ok his stencilling isn’t for everything but he’s got great marketing. A bit like Zorro.
Whoops everyone not everything"
Exactly. How many of us work in a job we don't like or for a boss we don't like...
He managed to make a living out of his passion and he makes a lot of money out of it. He is an inspiration rather than someone I want to shit on.
The guy uses spray can on a wall and ppl are ready to spend million to have it !
Even if we agree or not with his art, while I am working for somebody I don't like... He is living the dream |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
Ok his stencilling isn’t for everything but he’s got great marketing. A bit like Zorro.
Whoops everyone not everything
Exactly. How many of us work in a job we don't like or for a boss we don't like...
He managed to make a living out of his passion and he makes a lot of money out of it. He is an inspiration rather than someone I want to shit on.
The guy uses spray can on a wall and ppl are ready to spend million to have it !
Even if we agree or not with his art, while I am working for somebody I don't like... He is living the dream "
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
Ok his stencilling isn’t for everything but he’s got great marketing. A bit like Zorro."
He’s had a management team right from the beginning. He’s not some average guy that graffitis. It’s a business model with very rich execs at the helm. There’s no one that gets promoted by news channels for spray painting walls - unless someone is paying a hefty price for the promotion.
Like I’d mentioned earlier, check Alec monopoly. It’s the same business model, both have very wealthy backers. It’s more to do with “laundering” than art. |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
Ok his stencilling isn’t for everything but he’s got great marketing. A bit like Zorro.
He’s had a management team right from the beginning. He’s not some average guy that graffitis. It’s a business model with very rich execs at the helm. There’s no one that gets promoted by news channels for spray painting walls - unless someone is paying a hefty price for the promotion.
Like I’d mentioned earlier, check Alec monopoly. It’s the same business model, both have very wealthy backers. It’s more to do with “laundering” than art. "
Not a fan then? |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob"
You might not like his art, but why do you think someone you don’t know, and have never met, is a knob? |
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"I like a lot of his work but the money it fetches nowadays is bonkers! "
That's true, suppose he has more talent than the artiste who placed out a load of bricks or Tracy Emin and the unmade bed..
I can interpret what Banksy is saying but I just don't get the point of a pallet of Sussex reds or whatever laid on a floor..
Methinks I ain't clevva enuff..
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I dont see art i see graffiti. Looks a mess.
Graffiti is a form of art. "
Who owns the walls and buildings these so called 'artist' spray onto? Do they own them, or do they just turn up and spray on them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Banksy is great, he speaks truth to power. He pokes fun at systemic issues and raises issues that should be discussed but with humour and not preaching. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I dont see art i see graffiti. Looks a mess.
Graffiti is a form of art.
Who owns the walls and buildings these so called 'artist' spray onto? Do they own them, or do they just turn up and spray on them? "
Banksy usually sprays his stuff onto walls in places that are economically depressed thus ensuring that the area in question is given a boost through tourism and putting it on the map... he also responds to requests from people who ask that he paints something on their building so as to help them raise funds |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I dont see art i see graffiti. Looks a mess.
Graffiti is a form of art.
Who owns the walls and buildings these so called 'artist' spray onto? Do they own them, or do they just turn up and spray on them? "
What’s that got to do with what I said? I said it was a form of art. End of. |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art."
I’ve got that one on my wall |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Art can be interpreted however you wish, and of course by getting a reaction it makes him more famous. He undoubtedly has a team, but many artists often do have people that help them in various ways.
He’s not bothered about the fame, which is nice. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
So what do you like?" lots of things,
Broccoli
Chocolate hob knobs
Swimming
Real ale
Korean movies
Plenty of other things, but you weren't spacific
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art."
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy. |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy. "
It’s great to hear YOUR opinion, we are all entitled to it. Art is very subjective and rightly so. |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy. "
I think Banksy’s stuff takes skill, patience and thought to create. You’re just being a snob really. Something isn’t magically crap just because it’s popular. And just because other artists are less well known, doesn’t automatically invalidate Banksy’s work.
Not sure about the Rolex analogy. Presumably with watches, there can be an objective measure of quality, whereas art is almost entirely subjective. |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy.
It’s great to hear YOUR opinion, we are all entitled to it. Art is very subjective and rightly so. "
You consider someone with a colouring in book to be an artist? That’s essentially what banksy does.
If there were no political writings sprayed along with his works, would they not just be stick men? |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy.
I think Banksy’s stuff takes skill, patience and thought to create. You’re just being a snob really. Something isn’t magically crap just because it’s popular. And just because other artists are less well known, doesn’t automatically invalidate Banksy’s work.
Not sure about the Rolex analogy. Presumably with watches, there can be an objective measure of quality, whereas art is almost entirely subjective."
It was based upon the masses thinking it’s great, as it’s all they know. His success is entirely down to marketing: Without this, the majority would just walk past it. |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy.
It’s great to hear YOUR opinion, we are all entitled to it. Art is very subjective and rightly so.
You consider someone with a colouring in book to be an artist? That’s essentially what banksy does.
If there were no political writings sprayed along with his works, would they not just be stick men?"
Haha indeed, I like this guy |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy.
It’s great to hear YOUR opinion, we are all entitled to it. Art is very subjective and rightly so.
You consider someone with a colouring in book to be an artist? That’s essentially what banksy does.
If there were no political writings sprayed along with his works, would they not just be stick men?"
Artistic expression comes in all forms. |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy.
It’s great to hear YOUR opinion, we are all entitled to it. Art is very subjective and rightly so.
You consider someone with a colouring in book to be an artist? That’s essentially what banksy does.
If there were no political writings sprayed along with his works, would they not just be stick men?"
So a bit like Lowry then..
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy.
It’s great to hear YOUR opinion, we are all entitled to it. Art is very subjective and rightly so.
You consider someone with a colouring in book to be an artist? That’s essentially what banksy does.
If there were no political writings sprayed along with his works, would they not just be stick men?
So a bit like Lowry then..
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Lowry and banksy are world’s apart......
One paints and captures scenes. The other spray paints a stencil, usually with a maximum of two colours. |
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"If you Google “Banksy art”, in images the first one unsurprisingly is the girl with the red balloon. Is that a mess? Because most people would see it as an iconic piece of art.
He may make iconic pieces. They’re generally all plagiarised though. They ARE contemporary pieces, same as Damien Horst, Warhol etc.
I consider art to be something that takes skill, patience and deep thought to create. There are plenty of amazing artists who’s work never see the light of day. Banksy is only “art” to those that know nothing about art. His pieces are a complete meme and, used for money laundering - rather than being ‘great works of art’.
Just so no one thinks that I’m being overtly harsh, I relate banksy to Rolex. Those that know nothing of watches think of Rolex as being the greatest.
It’s the same with banksy.
It’s great to hear YOUR opinion, we are all entitled to it. Art is very subjective and rightly so.
You consider someone with a colouring in book to be an artist? That’s essentially what banksy does.
If there were no political writings sprayed along with his works, would they not just be stick men?
So a bit like Lowry then..
Lowry and banksy are world’s apart......
One paints and captures scenes. The other spray paints a stencil, usually with a maximum of two colours. "
Does he get the stencils at his local WH Smith?
Anyway, Lowry and Henry Moore are world’s apart. One crafts beautiful objects in three dimensions, often on a pretty large scale. Lowry mucks about with paint, drawling lots of very similar looking people in similar looking industrial scenes on small bits of paper. |
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"I love his social comment."
Its clearly more about the social commentary than the technical skill, most of the work is stencil work. I look a half of it and say I could do that (Well the actual painting of it) but location/context of the picture is often very witty. Having said that I also think that of a small percentage of the words and drawing I see inked onto the cubicle walls in public toilets. |
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"I love his social comment.
Its clearly more about the social commentary than the technical skill, most of the work is stencil work. I look a half of it and say I could do that (Well the actual painting of it) but location/context of the picture is often very witty. Having said that I also think that of a small percentage of the words and drawing I see inked onto the cubicle walls in public toilets."
It’s always easy to look at something that has been done and say ‘I could have done that...’
The point is, you didn’t |
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"I love his social comment.
Its clearly more about the social commentary than the technical skill, most of the work is stencil work. I look a half of it and say I could do that (Well the actual painting of it) but location/context of the picture is often very witty. Having said that I also think that of a small percentage of the words and drawing I see inked onto the cubicle walls in public toilets.
It’s always easy to look at something that has been done and say ‘I could have done that...’
The point is, you didn’t "
And that's why I'm not Bankys (or laughing all the way to the bank). |
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"I love his social comment.
Its clearly more about the social commentary than the technical skill, most of the work is stencil work. I look a half of it and say I could do that (Well the actual painting of it) but location/context of the picture is often very witty. Having said that I also think that of a small percentage of the words and drawing I see inked onto the cubicle walls in public toilets.
It’s always easy to look at something that has been done and say ‘I could have done that...’
The point is, you didn’t
And that's why I'm not Bankys (or laughing all the way to the bank)."
Good to see you’re not having an identity crisis over this then |
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"Blimey, this has escalated since I last checked in. Nice to see people so passionate about art, and thoroughly amusing to see how furious it's making people, too. "
Art should make people feel something. If that is anger then it has had an effect.
The queues for Dismaland, and the boost to Weston-super-Mare, speaks volumes for his popularity and the business model of putting art where the economy could use a boost.
I enjoyed my Fab social at Dismaland.
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I always wonder if the people who slate him would paint over one of his pieces if he sprayed up their property.
Of course they fucking wouldn’t
They’d be cashing in. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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"I always wonder if the people who slate him would paint over one of his pieces if he sprayed up their property.
Of course they fucking wouldn’t
They’d be cashing in. "
Apparently, they would inflict GBH before taking the money.
Slave Labour was removed from Poundland in Wood Green (North London) and went to auction at over £200k, before it was withdrawn. The replacement covered over the spot instead of leaving a damaged wall.
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"I always wonder if the people who slate him would paint over one of his pieces if he sprayed up their property.
Of course they fucking wouldn’t
They’d be cashing in. "
That’s purely economical. I don’t “dislike” his work: I just find it juvenile and gimmicky. If he chose to come and paint my garage door - I would adore him. (I would then sell it and, buy a folio of Shakespeare’s) |
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"I always wonder if the people who slate him would paint over one of his pieces if he sprayed up their property.
Of course they fucking wouldn’t
They’d be cashing in. "
Id break his hands off. |
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"He’s got massive wealthy behind him to market his scribbles. Just like that idiot Alec monopoly. (who manages to make even worse scribbles)"
Is Alex Monopoly the guy with the monocle and top hat? |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob"
He's a very clever artist who makes subtle social and political comments with his work...like the police sniper looking down his rifle scope and the little boy with the bliwn up bag that hes about to pop...or the boy and girl...the boy has flowees behind his back and shes got a club with nails through it behind hers...
His work isnt done by commission..he just chooses a place and works..if that is someones property it becomes owned by the property owner...made a lot of people rich.
The fact that he keeps his identity private makes his motives and reasons mysterious which in turn drives the popularity cos everyone loves a puzzle.
If you were Bristol born ypu'd understand. |
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"I like seeing a Banksy and live where I can see a fair few.
I have wondered if I produced something that could pass as a Banksy and it gets, wrongly, attributed to Banksy does that make it a Banksy? "
No. He has an official list of his art filed with his public reps. |
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"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable - Banksy."
Is that meant to be a profound or meaningful? It means fuck all to me,seems like people on this thread are trying to change my mind about Banksy,adverse effect unfortunately |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable - Banksy.
Is that meant to be a profound or meaningful? It means fuck all to me,seems like people on this thread are trying to change my mind about Banksy,adverse effect unfortunately "
Why are you reading it as people trying to change your mind? It's a discussion. Your OP, and the subsequent threat of violence, is very clear. That doesn't stop others expressing a different opinion and responding to comments.
You know that.
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"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable - Banksy.
Is that meant to be a profound or meaningful? It means fuck all to me,seems like people on this thread are trying to change my mind about Banksy,adverse effect unfortunately
Why are you reading it as people trying to change your mind? It's a discussion. Your OP, and the subsequent threat of violence, is very clear. That doesn't stop others expressing a different opinion and responding to comments.
You know that.
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"His art/graphiti is some of the best. . if only he'd draw on my white canvas of a house "
Isn't it stencils and shit?
I've never understood why his graffiti has been idolised to be honest. I think some of the proper urban graffiti is so much better. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob"
Does it harm anyone?
No.
Does it make you think?
In your case . . . obviously not, it's hit a mental roadblock.
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
Does it harm anyone?
No.
Does it make you think?
In your case . . . obviously not, it's hit a mental roadblock.
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Why be so personal just because someone thinks it's a load of rubbish? |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
It's another case of the emperor's New clothes isn't it."
Is that supposed to be some sort of analogy? |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
It's another case of the emperor's New clothes isn't it.
Is that supposed to be some sort of analogy? "
How rude.
Look we all know the story, the emperor's New clothes walk's down the street naked one sycophant decided to say what a marvelous outfit how amazing he looked, for fear of seeming uncool or not wanting to stand out everyone in the crowd follows suit until it's a mass hysteria about his new clothes, until one person has the bottle to stand up and say actually he's naked and slowly everyone else follows saying that he nude.
Bubble burst he runs back to castle.
As yet bankys hasn't had his bubble burst but soon enough.
It's just modern pop culture, hype hype and more hype.
If people are willing to be suckered into the hysteria and pay ridiculous amounts of money then. More fool them.
Tbh bankys is probably have a good laugh at their expense anyway.
It's not bankys that's the issue its the media frenzy and stupid people who are like sheep following the crowd and in most cases completely missing the point of the works in the first place.
So yes it is,to answer your question. |
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"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable - Banksy.
Is that meant to be a profound or meaningful? It means fuck all to me,seems like people on this thread are trying to change my mind about Banksy,adverse effect unfortunately "
It's whatever you want it to be...Have you ever tried any arts & crafts?, you may find it therapeutic. |
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He's done some great work and opened art into an arena that's attractive to more people. He's also made some great strides in making political statements - his fame has ensured that these have reached wide audiences.
He's not generally been the person who's made huge amounts of money from his work, as he works anonymously. I can respect that about him.
Ultimately, his work is worth what the market is willing to pay for it. It's still srongly in demand. People know of him and his work because of how the media has given it attention.
I wish I had his skill and acumen. |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
It's another case of the emperor's New clothes isn't it.
Is that supposed to be some sort of analogy?
How rude.
Look we all know the story, the emperor's New clothes walk's down the street naked one sycophant decided to say what a marvelous outfit how amazing he looked, for fear of seeming uncool or not wanting to stand out everyone in the crowd follows suit until it's a mass hysteria about his new clothes, until one person has the bottle to stand up and say actually he's naked and slowly everyone else follows saying that he nude.
Bubble burst he runs back to castle.
As yet bankys hasn't had his bubble burst but soon enough.
It's just modern pop culture, hype hype and more hype.
If people are willing to be suckered into the hysteria and pay ridiculous amounts of money then. More fool them.
Tbh bankys is probably have a good laugh at their expense anyway.
It's not bankys that's the issue its the media frenzy and stupid people who are like sheep following the crowd and in most cases completely missing the point of the works in the first place.
So yes it is,to answer your question."
I like that we share the same opinion. I used the Rolex bubble to describe it, both are the same. Bro fist |
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"Seriously, he's just a shitty graffiti artist, why do people put him on a pedestal the knob
It's another case of the emperor's New clothes isn't it.
Is that supposed to be some sort of analogy?
How rude.
Look we all know the story, the emperor's New clothes walk's down the street naked one sycophant decided to say what a marvelous outfit how amazing he looked, for fear of seeming uncool or not wanting to stand out everyone in the crowd follows suit until it's a mass hysteria about his new clothes, until one person has the bottle to stand up and say actually he's naked and slowly everyone else follows saying that he nude.
Bubble burst he runs back to castle.
As yet bankys hasn't had his bubble burst but soon enough.
It's just modern pop culture, hype hype and more hype.
If people are willing to be suckered into the hysteria and pay ridiculous amounts of money then. More fool them.
Tbh bankys is probably have a good laugh at their expense anyway.
It's not bankys that's the issue its the media frenzy and stupid people who are like sheep following the crowd and in most cases completely missing the point of the works in the first place.
So yes it is,to answer your question.
I like that we share the same opinion. I used the Rolex bubble to describe it, both are the same. Bro fist "
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I hate him, so many graffiti artists are shamed for doing the same things, except they put way more effort in and have way more talent than banksy. You can’t say it’s ok for one person to do something and not everyone else |
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"I hate him, so many graffiti artists are shamed for doing the same things, except they put way more effort in and have way more talent than banksy. You can’t say it’s ok for one person to do something and not everyone else"
Absofuckinlutely |
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"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable - Banksy.
Is that meant to be a profound or meaningful? It means fuck all to me,seems like people on this thread are trying to change my mind about Banksy,adverse effect unfortunately "
Yes, because the discussion revolves around you.
It is meaningful. Which part didn’t you get? |
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"I hate him, so many graffiti artists are shamed for doing the same things, except they put way more effort in and have way more talent than banksy. You can’t say it’s ok for one person to do something and not everyone else"
Unless it’s the same people who shame other artists as it is who don’t shame Banksy, that’s a logical fallacy. |
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"I hate him, so many graffiti artists are shamed for doing the same things, except they put way more effort in and have way more talent than banksy. You can’t say it’s ok for one person to do something and not everyone else"
Hate is a strong word bro... |
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