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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
Apparently, we live longer, happier lives without husbands and children but men have better lives if they're married.
Obviously a heteronormative study but, that aside, this site (well the forum) often suggests the opposite is true.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
Any views, or was this discussed when I was busy elsewhere?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’m definitely happier without my husband 
And, according to the research, you'll have a longer life.
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Last time I saw my ex he looked 10 years older than me, (and I am being kind), and given that he is 4years younger.....   |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Apparently, we live longer, happier lives without husbands and children but men have better lives if they're married.
Obviously a heteronormative study but, that aside, this site (well the forum) often suggests the opposite is true.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
Any views, or was this discussed when I was busy elsewhere?
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Mmmm, if women are the required component for everything being good - I’m available for friendship to any gay guys in the spirit of uplifting |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I’m definitely happier without my husband
And, according to the research, you'll have a longer life.
Last time I saw my ex he looked 10 years older than me, (and I am being kind), and given that he is 4years younger..... "
Also supporting the findings of the report.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Apparently, we live longer, happier lives without husbands and children but men have better lives if they're married.
Obviously a heteronormative study but, that aside, this site (well the forum) often suggests the opposite is true.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
Any views, or was this discussed when I was busy elsewhere?
Mmmm, if women are the required component for everything being good - I’m available for friendship to any gay guys in the spirit of uplifting "
A spiritual bra? |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Apparently, we live longer, happier lives without husbands and children but men have better lives if they're married.
Obviously a heteronormative study but, that aside, this site (well the forum) often suggests the opposite is true.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
Any views, or was this discussed when I was busy elsewhere?
Mmmm, if women are the required component for everything being good - I’m available for friendship to any gay guys in the spirit of uplifting
A spiritual bra?"
That’s me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’m definitely happier without my husband
And, according to the research, you'll have a longer life.
Last time I saw my ex he looked 10 years older than me, (and I am being kind), and given that he is 4years younger.....
Also supporting the findings of the report.
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If we're going to take what somebody said on the internet as fact.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I’m definitely happier without my husband
And, according to the research, you'll have a longer life.
Last time I saw my ex he looked 10 years older than me, (and I am being kind), and given that he is 4years younger.....
Also supporting the findings of the report.
If we're going to take what somebody said on the internet as fact.
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I see many arguments that opinion is fact on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’m definitely happier without my husband
And, according to the research, you'll have a longer life.
Last time I saw my ex he looked 10 years older than me, (and I am being kind), and given that he is 4years younger.....
Also supporting the findings of the report.
If we're going to take what somebody said on the internet as fact.
I see many arguments that opinion is fact on here. "
I did post my reply with a little trepidation.
I don't get involved in internet arguments though.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm a lot happier now I'm not married, but I put that down to not being with a compatible partner. My ex has found someone lovely and they married last week. He's not the sort of person to be content on his own and I'm pleased for them.
Living with a partner and children brings responsibility and stress so I can see why women would be happier and live longer without it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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“Married people are happier than other population subgroups, but only when their spouse is in the room when they’re asked how happy they are. When the spouse is not present: fucking miserable,” he said.
That made me snort!
My man friends do seem to need a woman in their lives, whereas my women friends seem happier single. Or wishing they were single...
Not all, but most. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"“Married people are happier than other population subgroups, but only when their spouse is in the room when they’re asked how happy they are. When the spouse is not present: fucking miserable,” he said.
That made me snort!
My man friends do seem to need a woman in their lives, whereas my women friends seem happier single. Or wishing they were single...
Not all, but most. "
That bit made me  but I decided it was too provocative for the start of the thread. I am sure there are happily married women.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I thought women lived longer than men regardless of being married or single. "
Yes. But the factors for this are interesting:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151001-why-women-live-longer-than-men
(Other reports and articles available that cover other factors but this is one I can post.)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought women lived longer than men regardless of being married or single.
Yes. But the factors for this are interesting:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151001-why-women-live-longer-than-men
(Other reports and articles available that cover other factors but this is one I can post.)"
Russian men are likely to die 13 years earlier than Russian women |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"“Married people are happier than other population subgroups, but only when their spouse is in the room when they’re asked how happy they are. When the spouse is not present: fucking miserable,” he said.
That made me snort!
My man friends do seem to need a woman in their lives, whereas my women friends seem happier single. Or wishing they were single...
Not all, but most.
That bit made me but I decided it was too provocative for the start of the thread. I am sure there are happily married women.
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I also know of happily married women, and men. Not necessarily married to each other.
I would have put the quote at the start of the thread. |
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"Apparently, we live longer, happier lives without husbands and children but men have better lives if they're married.
Obviously a heteronormative study but, that aside, this site (well the forum) often suggests the opposite is true.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
Any views, or was this discussed when I was busy elsewhere?
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I'm mentally and spuritually happier as a singleton than I was when I was married.
Conversely, although I have a pretty good social life, certainly better than when I was married, I'm lonelier.
Is that the trade off? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'll tell you why this is.
When the split happens, the women get the house, high regular monthly payments and a comfortable lifestyle.
The guy gets a park bench.
*dons tin hat and waits* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yesterday would have been my 19th wedding anniversary. I might be lonely and perpetually single but I'm definitely glad I'm not still married to a man I didn't even really like |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'll tell you why this is.
When the split happens, the women get the house, high regular monthly payments and a comfortable lifestyle.
The guy gets a park bench.
*dons tin hat and waits*"
I clearly did divorce all wrong! |
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"I'll tell you why this is.
When the split happens, the women get the house, high regular monthly payments and a comfortable lifestyle.
The guy gets a park bench.
*dons tin hat and waits*
I clearly did divorce all wrong! "
And me. Bloody hell. Obviously I married the wrong man but I didn’t realise how wrong |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm definitely happier than when I was married and I'm sure my ex is happier too...altho he now has 2 more kids with his new partner to worry about!
I miss the social side of things that come with being married but I love being in control of the heating thermostat and the TV remote so swings and roundabouts!! Lol!! x |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I'll tell you why this is.
When the split happens, the women get the house, high regular monthly payments and a comfortable lifestyle.
The guy gets a park bench.
*dons tin hat and waits*"
Everyone is focussing on single after divorce/split. The report indicates men don't fare well if they are single, whether previously attached or not.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think women live longer generally and relationships are not hugely responsible for that, mainly it’s health based choices that men have an early age of death.
Sure there’s a few cases to prove both sides. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I think women live longer generally and relationships are not hugely responsible for that, mainly it’s health based choices that men have an early age of death.
Sure there’s a few cases to prove both sides. "
Many men do seem to make the same health choices as they would for asking for directions when lost. They just need a GPS for health now.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I don't think this site contradicts the findings OP. Why do you say that?"
The posts of single women looking for relationships to feel fulfilled and the number of married men posts about their difficult unfulfilled marriages.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'll tell you why this is.
When the split happens, the women get the house, high regular monthly payments and a comfortable lifestyle.
The guy gets a park bench.
*dons tin hat and waits*
Everyone is focussing on single after divorce/split. The report indicates men don't fare well if they are single, whether previously attached or not.
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sorry Lickity I misread it!, just a bit of light heartedness! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think this site contradicts the findings OP. Why do you say that?
The posts of single women looking for relationships to feel fulfilled and the number of married men posts about their difficult unfulfilled marriages.
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Ah. My take on that is that men want the emotional stability of their marriage but still enjoy variety in sex.
Women in general are more romantic in seeking a relationship while the reality of one is quite different. This is why many who've had relationships are happy to be and stay single. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think women live longer generally and relationships are not hugely responsible for that, mainly it’s health based choices that men have an early age of death.
Sure there’s a few cases to prove both sides.
Many men do seem to make the same health choices as they would for asking for directions when lost. They just need a GPS for health now.
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This is very true. Seen plenty of Well woman clinics, but not one Well man clinic.  x |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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"I don't think this site contradicts the findings OP. Why do you say that?
The posts of single women looking for relationships to feel fulfilled and the number of married men posts about their difficult unfulfilled marriages.
Ah. My take on that is that men want the emotional stability of their marriage but still enjoy variety in sex.
Women in general are more romantic in seeking a relationship while the reality of one is quite different. This is why many who've had relationships are happy to be and stay single. "
I’d agree with this |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I don't think this site contradicts the findings OP. Why do you say that?
The posts of single women looking for relationships to feel fulfilled and the number of married men posts about their difficult unfulfilled marriages.
Ah. My take on that is that men want the emotional stability of their marriage but still enjoy variety in sex.
Women in general are more romantic in seeking a relationship while the reality of one is quite different. This is why many who've had relationships are happy to be and stay single.
I’d agree with this "
I do too, but that report isn't nuanced enough for that. |
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"I think women live longer generally and relationships are not hugely responsible for that, mainly it’s health based choices that men have an early age of death.
Sure there’s a few cases to prove both sides. "
Mortality rates are changing all the time in the 80s the difference was approx 8 years and now it’s 4 by the time we all die it might be equal |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"More or Less is challenging the data in the report.
What does this mean?"
More or Less is a Radio 4 programme that looks at statistics. Basically, it's how you cut the data that gets the result in the report but how you ask the questions generates the data.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"More or Less is challenging the data in the report.
What does this mean?
More or Less is a Radio 4 programme that looks at statistics. Basically, it's how you cut the data that gets the result in the report but how you ask the questions generates the data.
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I think all statistics are rubbish. 
So they only asked men questions for the study? |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"More or Less is challenging the data in the report.
What does this mean?
More or Less is a Radio 4 programme that looks at statistics. Basically, it's how you cut the data that gets the result in the report but how you ask the questions generates the data.
I think all statistics are rubbish.
So they only asked men questions for the study? "
Stats are useful and can tell us interesting things but the questions asked and the way that they are asked will always skew the data. Then the interpretation can tell a completely different story.
When ONS had a helpline my secret guilty pleasure was calling them for information I needed in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep. (It was a long time ago.)  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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These studies have been around for a very long time, remember it being proven decades ago. The best studies were done with spinsters v bachelors using large numbers
Though most studies I've read conclude that it only works for those that have never been married because there's not enough data available to be comparable for divorcees/cohabiters |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"More or Less is challenging the data in the report.
What does this mean?
More or Less is a Radio 4 programme that looks at statistics. Basically, it's how you cut the data that gets the result in the report but how you ask the questions generates the data.
I think all statistics are rubbish.
So they only asked men questions for the study?
Stats are useful and can tell us interesting things but the questions asked and the way that they are asked will always skew the data. Then the interpretation can tell a completely different story.
When ONS had a helpline my secret guilty pleasure was calling them for information I needed in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep. (It was a long time ago.) "
You're so rock n roll.  x
But awesome too. |
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