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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx " I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them. | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx " im sure some one in one of the threads mentioned there d,ter and it got through surly if its in bad taste then the mod could remove it but not a blanket ban | |||
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"It would be interesting to have a list of words you can't now use but there are many alternatives so I don't think it will cause any real problems. " oh yeah, a list of words you can't use, hows that gonna work? | |||
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"If this is the way its staying then please also ban the word son as i only have a little girl and thats not really on is it? " I only have 2 d***hters ... no sons here | |||
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"It would be interesting to have a list of words you can't now use but there are many alternatives so I don't think it will cause any real problems. oh yeah, a list of words you can't use, hows that gonna work?" | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them." What legal reasons...none whatsoever...its moral panic of the worst unthinking sort | |||
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"If this is the way its staying then please also ban the word son as i only have a little girl and thats not really on is it? " No offence to you at all Soapy, but saying little girl has worse connotations than does naughter. | |||
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"Thats stupid i can still write son,,,are admin making massive assumptions here.. i have already pointed out to them ,with no reply that the bans on watersports and fisting do not hold water since the peacock verdict. " One verdict does not make case law for a whole subject. | |||
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"If this is the way its staying then please also ban the word son as i only have a little girl and thats not really on is it? I only have 2 d***hters ... no sons here " i'll swap you one, he'll be there by midnight lol | |||
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"It would be interesting to have a list of words you can't now use but there are many alternatives so I don't think it will cause any real problems. oh yeah, a list of words you can't use, hows that gonna work?" Admin could put it at the top where it says "New Forum Post Please note the forum rules before posting:" letting you scroll down. | |||
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"If this is the way its staying then please also ban the word son as i only have a little girl and thats not really on is it? No offence to you at all Soapy, but saying little girl has worse connotations than does naughter. " I totally agree with you mush | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them. What legal reasons...none whatsoever...its moral panic of the worst unthinking sort" Well I am not in full knowledge as to what fabswingers legal department have advised them if you are then let us know. | |||
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"Thats stupid i can still write son,,,are admin making massive assumptions here.. i have already pointed out to them ,with no reply that the bans on watersports and fisting do not hold water since the peacock verdict. One verdict does not make case law for a whole subject." agreed , but since the ban here was subjective anyway the verdict is an indication that there will be no comeback for the site if w/s and fisting pics are allowed. Many other free sites allow them...after peacock the decision that they do not break the obscene publications act means any chance of prosecution is very low. It is case law in relation to fisting and watersports, and therefore a relevant thing to consider. | |||
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"Am I missing something here, why has the word been banned from the forums? " Thats what i would loike to know as well | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them. What legal reasons...none whatsoever...its moral panic of the worst unthinking sort Well I am not in full knowledge as to what fabswingers legal department have advised them if you are then let us know." Legal department... Are u suggesting mumsnet need a simular ban? | |||
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"Am I missing something here, why has the word been banned from the forums? " We don't know yet. Side note.... I know a number of sites where words like 'girl' are not allowed as part of a username. | |||
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"Is there a list of banned words or phrases anywhere?" yeah but you need one of those magic pens to reveal the invisible ink. And i cant see mine. | |||
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"I'm sure there will be good reason behind this change but remember Admin here are always open to constructive criticism from all. S. x" And i am convinced there is no good reason for the change...give me one that bans the d word and not son | |||
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" It is still acceptable to use in chat. " yes can still be typed in chat ... i just checked ... now im more confused | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them. What legal reasons...none whatsoever...its moral panic of the worst unthinking sort Well I am not in full knowledge as to what fabswingers legal department have advised them if you are then let us know. Legal department... Are u suggesting mumsnet need a simular ban?" Nah, it should just be banned | |||
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"Is there a list of banned words or phrases anywhere? yeah but you need one of those magic pens to reveal the invisible ink. And i cant see mine." lol! I was thinking that | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them. What legal reasons...none whatsoever...its moral panic of the worst unthinking sort Well I am not in full knowledge as to what fabswingers legal department have advised them if you are then let us know. Legal department... Are u suggesting mumsnet need a simular ban? Nah, it should just be banned " with u there | |||
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"Am I missing something here, why has the word been banned from the forums? We don't know yet. Side note.... I know a number of sites where words like 'girl' are not allowed as part of a username." so will girl, boy, baby, child be banned too I wonder? | |||
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"I'm sure there will be good reason behind this change but remember Admin here are always open to constructive criticism from all. S. x" with the risk of the wrath of the mods have you ever tried to querie a photo decision | |||
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"I'm sure there will be good reason behind this change but remember Admin here are always open to constructive criticism from all. S. x And i am convinced there is no good reason for the change...give me one that bans the d word and not son " May be they are working their way through the alphabet and haven't got to 's' yet... some of you people are soooooo impatient. | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them. What legal reasons...none whatsoever...its moral panic of the worst unthinking sort Well I am not in full knowledge as to what fabswingers legal department have advised them if you are then let us know. Legal department... Are u suggesting mumsnet need a simular ban?" They will have someone who gives them legal advice to prevent any legal issues. It may but outsourced, it may be 20 minutes on a Wednesday morning but they will seek legal advice from time to time. I am not suggesting anything and please don't try putting word in my mouth thank you. | |||
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"I'm sure there will be good reason behind this change but remember Admin here are always open to constructive criticism from all. S. x with the risk of the wrath of the mods have you ever tried to querie a photo decision " yes... several times and each time it got sorted. | |||
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" They will have someone who gives them legal advice to prevent any legal issues. It may but outsourced, it may be 20 minutes on a Wednesday morning but they will seek legal advice from time to time. I am not suggesting anything and please don't try putting word in my mouth thank you." oooh, can i put my boob in ur mouth then | |||
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"I'm sure there will be good reason behind this change but remember Admin here are always open to constructive criticism from all. S. x And i am convinced there is no good reason for the change...give me one that bans the d word and not son May be they are working their way through the alphabet and haven't got to 's' yet... some of you people are soooooo impatient." You may be right I haven't seen any information an banned words. I'm sure we will be informed when they have the time. | |||
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"In my opinion - the banning of one offspring gender and not the other is sexism in its highest form! " Actually it is and in a very serious way..the d word has been banned for reasons we all guess, so are admin saying nothing similar happens to young boys? Men have a far worse time being taken seriously, and this just perpetuates that attitude. | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I have noticed similar, it will be for legal reasons so you can't blame them. What legal reasons...none whatsoever...its moral panic of the worst unthinking sort Well I am not in full knowledge as to what fabswingers legal department have advised them if you are then let us know. Legal department... Are u suggesting mumsnet need a simular ban? They will have someone who gives them legal advice to prevent any legal issues. It may but outsourced, it may be 20 minutes on a Wednesday morning but they will seek legal advice from time to time. I am not suggesting anything and please don't try putting word in my mouth thank you." no legal advice will suggest banning a single word. | |||
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" They will have someone who gives them legal advice to prevent any legal issues. It may but outsourced, it may be 20 minutes on a Wednesday morning but they will seek legal advice from time to time. I am not suggesting anything and please don't try putting word in my mouth thank you. oooh, can i put my boob in ur mouth then" Lol if you can do it I don't see why not but I'm not telling you to try it so dont sue me for any injury. | |||
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"I'm sure there will be good reason behind this change but remember Admin here are always open to constructive criticism from all. S. x with the risk of the wrath of the mods have you ever tried to querie a photo decision " Can you try and remember that the mods close the photo query threads because Admin TELL them to and do so themselves. | |||
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" They will have someone who gives them legal advice to prevent any legal issues. It may but outsourced, it may be 20 minutes on a Wednesday morning but they will seek legal advice from time to time. I am not suggesting anything and please don't try putting word in my mouth thank you. oooh, can i put my boob in ur mouth then Lol if you can do it I don't see why not but I'm not telling you to try it so dont sue me for any injury. " ooooh, just looked at ur profile I wouldn't mind you putting a certain something of yours in my mouth | |||
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"In my opinion - the banning of one offspring gender and not the other is sexism in its highest form! " no, lowest. | |||
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"I'm sure there will be good reason behind this change but remember Admin here are always open to constructive criticism from all. S. x with the risk of the wrath of the mods have you ever tried to querie a photo decision Can you try and remember that the mods close the photo query threads because Admin TELL them to and do so themselves. " http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/88383 http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/87157 Just two examples. | |||
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"OOOOOOHHHHHH i can still type the word CUNT!!!! happy days " did you mean to type *UNT though .... your mothers sister? | |||
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" They will have someone who gives them legal advice to prevent any legal issues. It may but outsourced, it may be 20 minutes on a Wednesday morning but they will seek legal advice from time to time. I am not suggesting anything and please don't try putting word in my mouth thank you. oooh, can i put my boob in ur mouth then Lol if you can do it I don't see why not but I'm not telling you to try it so dont sue me for any injury. ooooh, just looked at ur profile I wouldn't mind you putting a certain something of yours in my mouth" Lol well I'm sure it might enjoy that. | |||
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"Admins probably thinking Oh shit what i have started sons of a bitch! err girls of a bitch (trying not to be sexist) xx " now you gotta change bitch too! | |||
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"Admins probably thinking Oh shit what i have started sons of a bitch! err girls of a bitch (trying not to be sexist) xx now you gotta change bitch too!" lol, butch doesn't have the same ring to it | |||
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" I am not suggesting anything and please don't try putting word in my mouth thank you. oooh, can i put my boob in ur mouth then Lol if you can do it I don't see why not but I'm not telling you to try it so dont sue me for any injury. ooooh, just looked at ur profile I wouldn't mind you putting a certain something of yours in my mouth Lol well I'm sure it might enjoy that. " | |||
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"words are just words,without context. unless your stalin." i've never stolen owt | |||
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"words are just words,without context. unless your stalin." or played for time | |||
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"I am smiling at how worked up people are getting I will stick this thread onto the other one started in the site help bit, so Admin can see all comments." Stick it in the Sun on Sunday too. | |||
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"Does anyone actually know what they are getting worked up about yet?" your 4th piccy lol | |||
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"suns and dotters. dauhgters. D4AUGHERS. twats." You see, dyslexics do have some advantages. | |||
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"Does anyone actually know what they are getting worked up about yet?" I can't think unless they are trying to draw an unhealthy relationship between an adult and a child, in which case a gender/familial specific is wrong. | |||
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"I am smiling at how worked up people are getting I will stick this thread onto the other one started in the site help bit, so Admin can see all comments." yeah, it's making this lounge look bliddy messy! | |||
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"Mushy sorry mate, but you must be too clever for me as I can never figure out what you mean." Don't worry, me and many others can't | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/02/12 00:26:16]" Thank you Rugby it needs addressing if d... is upheld i think son should be as well | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx " I got that message earlier too. I tried to post on the thread about the asian guy with a white girlfriend about his family gaining a d*****r or losing a son. | |||
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"I need undressing. Any offers?" Dear Mrs be Nice, oops i mean be nice..... | |||
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"I need undressing. Any offers? Dear Mrs be Nice, oops i mean be nice....." wouldn't it just.x | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I got that message earlier too. I tried to post on the thread about the asian guy with a white girlfriend about his family gaining a d*****r or losing a son. " Arrh wishy its a good job ya had ya D...er before the ban mate cause congratulations would have been difficult xx | |||
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"I need undressing. Any offers? Dear Mrs be Nice, oops i mean be nice..... wouldn't it just.x" Not harf, i wish i'd now started it Mrs Be Nice Letsby Avenue | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I got that message earlier too. I tried to post on the thread about the asian guy with a white girlfriend about his family gaining a d*****r or losing a son. Arrh wishy its a good job ya had ya D...er before the ban mate cause congratulations would have been difficult xx" Ya could have said congrats on the birth of ya shitting, puking, eating machine and I've had understood what ya meant. | |||
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"Ive just tried to write a post That included a reference to my child A big red banner came up and said that the word d,,augter (i cant even write it for this post) is now no longer allowed Come on Admin most of us have kids have kids xx I got that message earlier too. I tried to post on the thread about the asian guy with a white girlfriend about his family gaining a d*****r or losing a son. Arrh wishy its a good job ya had ya D...er before the ban mate cause congratulations would have been difficult xx Ya could have said congrats on the birth of ya shitting, puking, eating machine and I've had understood what ya meant. " lol @ wishy | |||
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"Undesirable word repellant. New innovative product. Only £9.99 a bottle. PM me." cunt cunt bastard shite bugger fucker bastard dauhgter. oh shit,2 bottles please. | |||
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"ok hope this doesnt get me a ban, as it is not naming and shaming, but how come you cant mention the word duaghter but can have a user name called daddys little slut ... more confused than ever " | |||
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"ok hope this doesnt get me a ban, as it is not naming and shaming, but how come you cant mention the word duaghter but can have a user name called daddys little slut ... more confused than ever " depends if you are beaching like a cuddly wuddly whale or beaching like a beachy beach. | |||
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" cunt cunt bastard shite bugger fucker bastard " what do you want now! | |||
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"Does anyone actually know what they are getting worked up about yet? I can't think unless they are trying to draw an unhealthy relationship between an adult and a child, in which case a gender/familial specific is wrong. " Exactly, i am offended on three levels, by the suggestion that ppl here need to be banned from talking about their female off spring, and by the idea that only girls need protection Then there is the fact heavy handed censorship is always wrong. | |||
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"Does anyone actually know what they are getting worked up about yet? I can't think unless they are trying to draw an unhealthy relationship between an adult and a child, in which case a gender/familial specific is wrong. Exactly, i am offended on three levels, by the suggestion that ppl here need to be banned from talking about their female off spring, and by the idea that only girls need protection Then there is the fact heavy handed censorship is always wrong." I'm offended ...... it's as if we all are irresponsible enough to want to mention our d4ughters on this site forums as a bit of titivation. We all banter back and forth about what our kids (many of whom are adults too) get up to and how they make us proud or dement us or make us laugh and we share these anecdotes, loads of forum stuff mentions our kids in our day to day lives, are we not to mention them at all now? | |||
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"Does anyone actually know what they are getting worked up about yet? I can't think unless they are trying to draw an unhealthy relationship between an adult and a child, in which case a gender/familial specific is wrong. Exactly, i am offended on three levels, by the suggestion that ppl here need to be banned from talking about their female off spring, and by the idea that only girls need protection Then there is the fact heavy handed censorship is always wrong. I'm offended ...... it's as if we all are irresponsible enough to want to mention our d4ughters on this site forums as a bit of titivation. We all banter back and forth about what our kids (many of whom are adults too) get up to and how they make us proud or dement us or make us laugh and we share these anecdotes, loads of forum stuff mentions our kids in our day to day lives, are we not to mention them at all now? " I agree, wasnt so long ago i was talking about one of my duaghters getting married, and if i thought for one second that someone was going to be getting "off" on that I wouldn't have second thoughts about posting it, as I would not have | |||
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" cunt cunt bastard shite bugger fucker bastard what do you want now! " | |||
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"just wonder if its to do with a story claimed to be a real story that was posted & eventually deleted in the stories & fantasies section a few days ago involving a certain amount of "family fun" ?? had to put family fun cos the "I" word is not allowed either" Isn't that a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut in that case? I know inc*st is a taboo subject and illegal, and mentioning non-consensual intercourse on the forums is also taboo. Most people here, especially parents will avoid the discussion of inc*st..... as for forced Non-consenting intercourse, that is an emotive topic of any conversation not just a forum one so I understand them being banned topics of conversation, but mentioning just the the word d4ughter? Sorry I'm at a loss as to why we can't. .... and now noticed inc*st as a word cannot even be typed now. | |||
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"The following is a possible example of a forum thread in a few months time ......................................... Hi " | |||
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"The following is a possible example of a forum thread in a few months time ......................................... Hi " | |||
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"my female offspring are adults,so i am going to refer to them as female adult she peoples in future" Mine is an adult too .... but from now on she is referred to as mini-me...... which reads a damn sight worse than the D-word. | |||
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"The following is a possible example of a forum thread in a few months time ......................................... Hi " H bugger! | |||
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"what about sonettes?" ........ 14 lines? We'll never get away with saying that by next week. | |||
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"what about sonettes? ........ 14 lines? We'll never get away with saying that by next week." | |||
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"Bottle.... of porter. " "Gottle o geer..." Can I take me hand out now? | |||
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"Your breath stinks like a crack whore's minge seems to be OK too... so I can reply to the 'what did you think of me' messages too." Soo funny! Nearly had a little accident reading that one ! Wasn't expecting that to happen for at least another couple of years... "Him" | |||
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" The forums over here are different and we're not up against the same compliance checklist so we've fixed this so that the test is only checked on the right site. Thanks, Admin x" Thanks Admin... | |||
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"I saw once '2 sisters' as I see that as far more disturbing!" C'mon i wouldn't go that far | |||
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"So after admins post a few lines above…. seems I was right then S. x" *Blue Peter badge in the post...* | |||
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"We are pleased to see that the spirit of free speech is still alive and well and being defended on here This was a change that we had to make for another of our sites (to comply with banking regulations as we apply to take cards as well as phone upgrades over there) and that got applied here by error as part of our regular updates. The problem on our other site is that references are made to things like "wanking over my step-daughter's panties" and it's something that the main card issuers get upset by (we're not that pleased by it either and threads do get removed but mods can't be everywhere all the time). That along with any reference to forced sex acts and anything that may be references to incest (so stuff like choke, rape, strangle, incest is also not allowed on the other site). The forums over here are different and we're not up against the same compliance checklist so we've fixed this so that the test is only checked on the right site. Thanks, Admin x" Thank you for the explanation and the correction of the problem (we can freely mention our daughters again ) However its a pity and a sign of the big brother times that card acceptance companies can tell you how to run your sites though Craig xx | |||
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"We are pleased to see that the spirit of free speech is still alive and well and being defended on here This was a change that we had to make for another of our sites (to comply with banking regulations as we apply to take cards as well as phone upgrades over there) and that got applied here by error as part of our regular updates. The problem on our other site is that references are made to things like "wanking over my step-daughter's panties" and it's something that the main card issuers get upset by (we're not that pleased by it either and threads do get removed but mods can't be everywhere all the time). That along with any reference to forced sex acts and anything that may be references to incest (so stuff like choke, rape, strangle, incest is also not allowed on the other site). The forums over here are different and we're not up against the same compliance checklist so we've fixed this so that the test is only checked on the right site. Thanks, Admin x Thank you for the explanation and the correction of the problem (we can freely mention our daughters again ) However its a pity and a sign of the big brother times that card acceptance companies can tell you how to run your sites though Craig xx" TH it's understandable from their POV because they don't want stuff like paedophillia and extreme porn and they don't have time to look at thousands of pages so they run an automated tool that looks for keywords to help them control risk. Admin x | |||
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" they don't have time to look at thousands of pages so they run an automated tool that looks for keywords to help them control risk. Admin x" I cannot send an Email to Dick Clark coz our system has one of these tools... | |||
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"Thanks admin ........ You should send that site Ruggers and Honeypot ...... they'd soon sort them out! " We cant lose our Ninjas... | |||
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"Thanks admin ........ You should send that site Ruggers and Honeypot ...... they'd soon sort them out! We cant lose our Ninjas..." True, but if they had Ninja forum fairies like ours they'd soon be a better place. | |||
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"Thanks admin ........ You should send that site Ruggers and Honeypot ...... they'd soon sort them out! We cant lose our Ninjas... True, but if they had Ninja forum fairies like ours they'd soon be a better place. " Aaah Soooo... | |||
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"Thanks admin ........ You should send that site Ruggers and Honeypot ...... they'd soon sort them out! We cant lose our Ninjas... True, but if they had Ninja forum fairies like ours they'd soon be a better place. Aaah Soooo... " eek! rissen to me ......I not an ass ooooh. | |||
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"Thanks admin ........ You should send that site Ruggers and Honeypot ...... they'd soon sort them out! " Omg...Nooooo i read some extreme porn and a lot is too much for me, we need ruggers and honeypot modding, not puking | |||
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"Thanks admin ........ You should send that site Ruggers and Honeypot ...... they'd soon sort them out! We cant lose our Ninjas... True, but if they had Ninja forum fairies like ours they'd soon be a better place. Aaah Soooo... eek! rissen to me ......I not an ass ooooh. " Ya might not be one... But ya got a cute one...;-) *checks flights to Whan King...* | |||
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"or dorta, doorter, dawta, dorter, dawter, wouldn't have that problem in frech ma fille!" Sounds like a dialect thing to me. Dorta if you're from the Northeast, Doh-ahh you're from the southeast, etc... | |||
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"Yes......... " Read back a few posts... | |||
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"Yes......... " Read back a few posts... | |||
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"Yes......... Read back a few posts..." I did Removed previous posts before I saw you reply lol | |||
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"It's a big site - it's easier to use blanket censorship. People bypassing it by altering the words to bypass the censor should be banned. Quite why anybody would want to mention family on a site like this in any context is beyond me but there are some strange people on here." Dammit! I've just mentioned my mom on another thread | |||
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"It's a big site - it's easier to use blanket censorship. People bypassing it by altering the words to bypass the censor should be banned. Quite why anybody would want to mention family on a site like this in any context is beyond me but there are some strange people on here. Dammit! I've just mentioned my mom on another thread " I guess some people hold their family in higher esteem than others - my personal morals would prevent me from discussing certain topics and people on a site as sordid as this. | |||
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" How can a picture of a dead fly placed on a sheet of paper that has a horse drawn on it, firstly be approved and secondly be visable on a profile.. " I know the profile that the "fly" pictures were on but they are not anymore so I presume Admin removed them too for breaking their site rules. | |||
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" Admin you've already replied and either you or another MOD locked the thread... Now that's censorship personified.... " Not much point... Theres not many rules on here... And clearly you havent read those few...;-);-) | |||
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"But where permitted in the first place.... I rest my case on photo rules " Having read the other thread I do believe Admin did explain that "mistakes do happen" and it looks like that mistake was rectified. | |||
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"But where permitted in the first place.... I rest my case on photo rules " mods and admin are human therefore mistakes can happen. There are thousands of pics added every day so maybe cut a bit of slack for those (un)lucky enough to have the job? I don't really think it's worth getting yourself worked up over tbh. | |||
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"It's a big site - it's easier to use blanket censorship. People bypassing it by altering the words to bypass the censor should be banned. Quite why anybody would want to mention family on a site like this in any context is beyond me but there are some strange people on here. Dammit! I've just mentioned my mom on another thread I guess some people hold their family in higher esteem than others - my personal morals would prevent me from discussing certain topics and people on a site as sordid as this. " My post was very very light hearted, nothing to do with sex. All sorts of topics of discussion are on these forums... it's not all sex, sex, sex, sex and more sex. I don't understand why you think this site is 'sordid' yet, you chose to be part of it? | |||
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