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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury

So last night my mother informed me that for a week I have had a neice. "Aww, how sweet" you may be thinking, but the reality is so unbelievably fucked up.

So 3 years ago my dad told me that I would be an uncle shortly, that my sister was 7 months pregnant. This is generally the kind of information that one likes to get from the people who made our new family member, but nope it came from my dad.

At the moment my dad doesn't know and last night my mum made me promise not to tell him otherwise she would "fall out" with me. Now I feel like my dad has a right to know that he has a granddaughter. If I don't tell him, then finds out that I knew and didn't tell him he will feel betrayed by him. If I do tell him then my mum will stop talking to me.

All of this is my bitch sisters fault because she wont grow up and deal with the situation, she prefers to let the whispers and the gossip cause animosity within our family.

Do you guys have any advice? I'd sure appreciate it.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Family secrets eh. We have a "situation" in our family. The way we deal with it is by being truthful to everyone. It has caused people to not speak to us but we prefer to be up front with things like that.

In my opinion you just continue the secrecy by keeping quiet.

Only you know your family though.

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Explain again

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By *ed-monkeyCouple  over a year ago

Hailsham

Family politics always tricky

Personally ... it's not for you to say.

You go with the party line that you're sick of the internal bickering such that you say nothing about anything because it's easier that way

Not sure about your timings ... assume you mean 3 months ago .. not 3 years

In which case he can do the maths and work out ruhr baby must have been born by now

Seems a bit much that you hadn't found out for a week also

You can choose friends ... but family you're born with

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By *innie The MinxWoman  over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Sorry, I don't understand why your dad isn't allowed to see or know of his grandkids. Is there some kind of issue there?

It's an awkward position to be in I agree, but ultimately it's your sister's choice whether your dad gets to know about his grandchild. She may have good reason.

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By *uzzy NavelWoman  over a year ago

so near and yet so far....

So 3 years ago my dad told me that I would be an uncle shortly, that my sister was 7 months pregnant. This is generally the kind of information that one likes to get from the people who made our new family member, but nope it came from my dad.

How is it a secret from your Dad?

Sorry if being thick xx

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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Family secrets eh. We have a "situation" in our family. The way we deal with it is by being truthful to everyone. It has caused people to not speak to us but we prefer to be up front with things like that.

In my opinion you just continue the secrecy by keeping quiet.

Only you know your family though. "

This is how I would prefer it and what I'm aiming for.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Family politics always tricky

Personally ... it's not for you to say.

You go with the party line that you're sick of the internal bickering such that you say nothing about anything because it's easier that way

Not sure about your timings ... assume you mean 3 months ago .. not 3 years

In which case he can do the maths and work out ruhr baby must have been born by now

Seems a bit much that you hadn't found out for a week also

You can choose friends ... but family you're born with"

My niece is her second child, my nephew was born 3 years ago, but it was my dad who told me. This is why I'm torn about telling him because he told me about my nephew.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Tell ya mum grow the fuck up

And tell ur dad the truth if shes gonna fall out over trivial shit id personally not care if she fell out with me

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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Sorry, I don't understand why your dad isn't allowed to see or know of his grandkids. Is there some kind of issue there?

It's an awkward position to be in I agree, but ultimately it's your sister's choice whether your dad gets to know about his grandchild. She may have good reason.

"

She stopped talking to him because he told me how she used me as an excuse to not see him. Naturally I hit the roof about this. Both me and my sister have never gotten on, sibling rivalry and stuff. The difference is, like my dad, is that I've actually attempted to mend the broken situation and had it thrown back in my face every time.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Family secrets eh. We have a "situation" in our family. The way we deal with it is by being truthful to everyone. It has caused people to not speak to us but we prefer to be up front with things like that.

In my opinion you just continue the secrecy by keeping quiet.

Only you know your family though.

This is how I would prefer it and what I'm aiming for."

I would say though that you need to be aware that your sister and father have a different relationship than you and your father and I'm assuming that it's safe for your father to know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ignore the lot of them.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Tell ya mum grow the fuck up

And tell ur dad the truth if shes gonna fall out over trivial shit id personally not care if she fell out with me"

I think I might. She defends my sister to the hilt even though she is clearly in the wrong. I wasnt invited to my sisters wedding, I went as my mums plus one. This was done to stop my mrs going, rather than growing up and trying to get on. Her childishness astounds me.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Sorry, I don't understand why your dad isn't allowed to see or know of his grandkids. Is there some kind of issue there?

It's an awkward position to be in I agree, but ultimately it's your sister's choice whether your dad gets to know about his grandchild. She may have good reason.

She stopped talking to him because he told me how she used me as an excuse to not see him. Naturally I hit the roof about this. Both me and my sister have never gotten on, sibling rivalry and stuff. The difference is, like my dad, is that I've actually attempted to mend the broken situation and had it thrown back in my face every time."

Step back from it. Keep the channels of communication open with all family members and try to remain neutral.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Family secrets eh. We have a "situation" in our family. The way we deal with it is by being truthful to everyone. It has caused people to not speak to us but we prefer to be up front with things like that.

In my opinion you just continue the secrecy by keeping quiet.

Only you know your family though.

This is how I would prefer it and what I'm aiming for.

I would say though that you need to be aware that your sister and father have a different relationship than you and your father and I'm assuming that it's safe for your father to know "

Yeah, he isn't a criminal in anyway. He isn't a bad influence, just somebody who wants to to see his grandchildren grow up and for his children to get along. Not too much to ask in my opinion.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Family secrets eh. We have a "situation" in our family. The way we deal with it is by being truthful to everyone. It has caused people to not speak to us but we prefer to be up front with things like that.

In my opinion you just continue the secrecy by keeping quiet.

Only you know your family though.

This is how I would prefer it and what I'm aiming for.

I would say though that you need to be aware that your sister and father have a different relationship than you and your father and I'm assuming that it's safe for your father to know

Yeah, he isn't a criminal in anyway. He isn't a bad influence, just somebody who wants to to see his grandchildren grow up and for his children to get along. Not too much to ask in my opinion."

Remain neutral as I said above.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury

Yeah you are probably right. Doesn't stop me wanting to knock some reality into my sister.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Yeah you are probably right. Doesn't stop me wanting to knock some reality into my sister. "

You want to knock your reality into her. It's not the same as hers. Family members have different relationships with each other. You haven't lived her life.

Good luck

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By *rwhowhatwherewhy OP   Man  over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Yeah you are probably right. Doesn't stop me wanting to knock some reality into my sister.

You want to knock your reality into her. It's not the same as hers. Family members have different relationships with each other. You haven't lived her life.

Good luck "

Nor has she lived mine, or even taken the remotest interest. She is an awful human being who is willing to weaponise her children for the sake of a minor family disagreement.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Tell ya mum grow the fuck up

And tell ur dad the truth if shes gonna fall out over trivial shit id personally not care if she fell out with me

I think I might. She defends my sister to the hilt even though she is clearly in the wrong. I wasnt invited to my sisters wedding, I went as my mums plus one. This was done to stop my mrs going, rather than growing up and trying to get on. Her childishness astounds me."

there ya go then

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Yeah you are probably right. Doesn't stop me wanting to knock some reality into my sister.

You want to knock your reality into her. It's not the same as hers. Family members have different relationships with each other. You haven't lived her life.

Good luck

Nor has she lived mine, or even taken the remotest interest. She is an awful human being who is willing to weaponise her children for the sake of a minor family disagreement."

OK. My opinion is that you can continue the family rift or show by your behaviour how you'd like a family to be

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