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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
No, I don't think I would.
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
Definitely not, leave the past where it should be |
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
Not randomly no. I probably wouldn't text unless they contacted me. |
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Unless you have kids together or it's for a valid reason like they have left something at your house, if someone is texting their ex it's generally because they miss them and want them back or want to fuck them. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"They want to rekindle old times"
You see now that's what I thought and clearly I was wrong,apparently.
General chitchat back and forth as you do I say I thought you would be in a relationship by now,he replies I am.
Tidgy bit annoyed to say the least and slightly disappointed I'll admit.
He replied he's not trying to gain favour otherwise he wouldn't have told me he was seeing someone. Confused as fuck. |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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"They want to rekindle old times
You see now that's what I thought and clearly I was wrong,apparently.
General chitchat back and forth as you do I say I thought you would be in a relationship by now,he replies I am.
Tidgy bit annoyed to say the least and slightly disappointed I'll admit.
He replied he's not trying to gain favour otherwise he wouldn't have told me he was seeing someone. Confused as fuck."
Gameplayer Alert!
Abort!! Abort!!!
They tell you they are seeing someone so they can say it was you reading too much into stuff and they were frank and open with you as to their situation and yet you proceeded with things anyway....thus allowing yourself to get messed around and thus they are the innocent party.
Standard Player behaviour.
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course.
Not randomly no. I probably wouldn't text unless they contacted me."
It's twice he's done this now. I kinda kicked off a bit and said if he knew anything about me he wouldn't have texted if he's seeing someone. He said he cared a lot about me even though it was a short time we dated. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"They want to rekindle old times
You see now that's what I thought and clearly I was wrong,apparently.
General chitchat back and forth as you do I say I thought you would be in a relationship by now,he replies I am.
Tidgy bit annoyed to say the least and slightly disappointed I'll admit.
He replied he's not trying to gain favour otherwise he wouldn't have told me he was seeing someone. Confused as fuck.
Gameplayer Alert!
Abort!! Abort!!!
They tell you they are seeing someone so they can say it was you reading too much into stuff and they were frank and open with you as to their situation and yet you proceeded with things anyway....thus allowing yourself to get messed around and thus they are the innocent party.
Standard Player behaviour.
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I finished with him at the time as I don't think we were suited completely. A menopausal grumpy woman isn't a happy one,he needed someone more fun. |
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"My ex randomly contacted me but mainly because he had a bet with his work colleague that he’s be able to get me into bed within 4 hours!
What a shit!"
Yep! He messages randomly, his found me on friends reunited and face book! Bless him. I don’t think he’ll find me on here! |
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over a year ago
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I have no idea how a mans mind works. Its either a bit selfish of him to churn things up again for you, or its sweet in that he still thinks of you. Either way you could probably swear at him and get away with it  |
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"My ex randomly contacted me but mainly because he had a bet with his work colleague that he’s be able to get me into bed within 4 hours!
What a shit!
Yep! He messages randomly, his found me on friends reunited and face book! Bless him. I don’t think he’ll find me on here! "
At least he was honest about the bet? |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I have no idea how a mans mind works. Its either a bit selfish of him to churn things up again for you, or its sweet in that he still thinks of you. Either way you could probably swear at him and get away with it "
I don't know Autumn,I've just sent him a thumbs up emoji to his last text,then deleted his number. It was doing my nut in,it was just disappointing as I'd been thinking about him recently even though I ended it,then he randomly texts!
It doesn't help I pass his street everytime I go into town. |
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"I have no idea how a mans mind works. Its either a bit selfish of him to churn things up again for you, or its sweet in that he still thinks of you. Either way you could probably swear at him and get away with it
I don't know Autumn,I've just sent him a thumbs up emoji to his last text,then deleted his number. It was doing my nut in,it was just disappointing as I'd been thinking about him recently even though I ended it,then he randomly texts!
It doesn't help I pass his street everytime I go into town."
So you are both thinking about each other then. Might be worth listening to that. Xx |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I have no idea how a mans mind works. Its either a bit selfish of him to churn things up again for you, or its sweet in that he still thinks of you. Either way you could probably swear at him and get away with it
I don't know Autumn,I've just sent him a thumbs up emoji to his last text,then deleted his number. It was doing my nut in,it was just disappointing as I'd been thinking about him recently even though I ended it,then he randomly texts!
It doesn't help I pass his street everytime I go into town.
So you are both thinking about each other then. Might be worth listening to that. Xx"
It's too late now anyway I've deleted him and he said it was because he cares about people that he messaged. |
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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
It is not just men that do this. My ex went through a spell of using me to talk through some pretty disturbing emotional issues. She seemed to feel I knew her well enough and cared enough to help without exposing her new partner to some of the darker workings of her mind. |
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"My ex randomly contacted me but mainly because he had a bet with his work colleague that he’s be able to get me into bed within 4 hours!
What a shit!
Yep! He messages randomly, his found me on friends reunited and face book! Bless him. I don’t think he’ll find me on here!
At least he was honest about the bet? "
Only after 4 hours of trying and his mate messaged! I see the text |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They want to rekindle old times
You see now that's what I thought and clearly I was wrong,apparently.
General chitchat back and forth as you do I say I thought you would be in a relationship by now,he replies I am.
Tidgy bit annoyed to say the least and slightly disappointed I'll admit.
He replied he's not trying to gain favour otherwise he wouldn't have told me he was seeing someone. Confused as fuck."
Sounds like he's trying to make you jealous. Or trying to prove that 'someone' wants him, even if you don't. |
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"It depends on the context of the message
His initial message was I hope you and your family are well and you've found the love of ya life...
Anyways it's done and dusted,finito."
In answer to the question,
Maybe ,
reason, one of many would be one never stops caring about some people , Male or female
Memories can be triggered and we do like to remanis
Curiosity really
Of course the specific position of all parties and past words would be assessed for acceptability
For me I've experienced the rolls reversed , 2 occasions , one she wanted sex , the other a chat xxx |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
Onestepoutofthedoor |
"They want to rekindle old times
You see now that's what I thought and clearly I was wrong,apparently.
General chitchat back and forth as you do I say I thought you would be in a relationship by now,he replies I am.
Tidgy bit annoyed to say the least and slightly disappointed I'll admit.
He replied he's not trying to gain favour otherwise he wouldn't have told me he was seeing someone. Confused as fuck.
Sounds like he's trying to make you jealous. Or trying to prove that 'someone' wants him, even if you don't. "
Maybe,but it's been a year and half since we've dated so if that's the case that's just daft. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
Onestepoutofthedoor |
"It depends on the context of the message
His initial message was I hope you and your family are well and you've found the love of ya life...
Anyways it's done and dusted,finito.
In answer to the question,
Maybe ,
reason, one of many would be one never stops caring about some people , Male or female
Memories can be triggered and we do like to remanis
Curiosity really
Of course the specific position of all parties and past words would be assessed for acceptability
For me I've experienced the rolls reversed , 2 occasions , one she wanted sex , the other a chat xxx"
Did both ladies get what they wanted? |
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
Only if I knew they had had some sort of event in their life and to either congratulate or commiserate accordingly |
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"It depends on the context of the message
His initial message was I hope you and your family are well and you've found the love of ya life...
Anyways it's done and dusted,finito.
In answer to the question,
Maybe ,
reason, one of many would be one never stops caring about some people , Male or female
Memories can be triggered and we do like to remanis
Curiosity really
Of course the specific position of all parties and past words would be assessed for acceptability
For me I've experienced the rolls reversed , 2 occasions , one she wanted sex , the other a chat xxx
Did both ladies get what they wanted?"
One yes ,
She chats regularly |
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
It’s hard Mrs horny knows I friends with lots ex’s just not ex wife’s lol they hate me. But one even text me to say she had a wet dream about me. I showed Mrs h we laughed it all about trust. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No. No point. An ex is an ex for a reason. They are part of my past. I don’t wish to remain friends with them or need to know about their life now. Maybe be harsh, but people move on. Icedgem. |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
No. If i'm happy in a relationship I wouldn't feel the need nor inclination to do such. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course.
It’s hard Mrs horny knows I friends with lots ex’s just not ex wife’s lol they hate me. But one even text me to say she had a wet dream about me. I showed Mrs h we laughed it all about trust. "
That's different if you were already friends with them,but I'm sure I wouldn't be happy if someone I was seeing randomly started messaging a woman they dated some time ago. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course.
No. If i'm happy in a relationship I wouldn't feel the need nor inclination to do such. "
That's my thoughts exactly! That's why I'm confused. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" Do you need to have his number? Delete/block.
I didn't,but I recognised the number.
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I wasnt trying to be blunt. Its surprising how people from the past can affect us when we least expect.
I've had a similar experience but I was never committed enough to delete and block, just in case! (So many hints of feelings given).
But despite the initial hurt i erased everything, and it was empowering. Sure I had moments and felt the need to speak, but it fades and you find yourself again. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
I think someone can be in touch without it necessarily being gameplaying; the thing to focus on is how it affects you and what you want from the situation. If he’s with someone else then it’s a no go, and if you ended things as it wasn’t right then deleting the number is the right thing to do.
You may be needing to direct confusion and anger at his contacting (whatever his motive, innocent or gameplaying) as it has triggered you to acknowledge that you’re upset/frustrated/angry/hurt/confused that it has highlighted something you’re unhappy about perhaps, and not necessarily about him per se. Accept that someone you were seeing for whatever motive was checking in on you, and continue to be you and do your thing. |
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Guess I'm just a bit odd.
With the exception of a couple of people, I've stayed friends with everyone, I've ever had any form of relationship with.
No such thing as random text when you're still mates
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By *iolet82Woman
over a year ago
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I’m still in contact with my ex. We separated 11 years ago and I have been married and separated with another person since. We still text each other and meet for days/nights out and in.
Also still in contact with my most recent ex but only because we have kids together, otherwise I probably wouldn’t have stayed in touch.
If someone texted an ex out of the blue they are maybe just wanting to check they are ok or missing them. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
Onestepoutofthedoor |
" Do you need to have his number? Delete/block.
I didn't,but I recognised the number.
I wasnt trying to be blunt. Its surprising how people from the past can affect us when we least expect.
I've had a similar experience but I was never committed enough to delete and block, just in case! (So many hints of feelings given).
But despite the initial hurt i erased everything, and it was empowering. Sure I had moments and felt the need to speak, but it fades and you find yourself again."
Well that's why I've deleted his number now so I'm not tempted to text again,I could have blocked,but like you say just in case...
That's definitely it now though he won't text again I know that,if we were right for each other we wouldn't have parted. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
Onestepoutofthedoor |
"I think someone can be in touch without it necessarily being gameplaying; the thing to focus on is how it affects you and what you want from the situation. If he’s with someone else then it’s a no go, and if you ended things as it wasn’t right then deleting the number is the right thing to do.
You may be needing to direct confusion and anger at his contacting (whatever his motive, innocent or gameplaying) as it has triggered you to acknowledge that you’re upset/frustrated/angry/hurt/confused that it has highlighted something you’re unhappy about perhaps, and not necessarily about him per se. Accept that someone you were seeing for whatever motive was checking in on you, and continue to be you and do your thing. "
You're making me think too much lady. When he told me he was seeing someone I kinda flipped I was angry and genuinely disappointed. My husband cheated so anything like that brings my stress out big time,maybe I was too quick to assume the worst.
It was me that finished it,but I did still want to see him if that makes sense,but he didn't unfortunately. He was a good guy,he didn't do anything wrong,I just felt we weren't suited.
Sooo having said that why do I feel disappointed?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In all honesty when this has happened to me it's been because they are bored at home and I'm seen as an easy target. It's all crap. I'm not saying that's the case for you but I wouldn't entertain him if I was you x |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"I think someone can be in touch without it necessarily being gameplaying; the thing to focus on is how it affects you and what you want from the situation. If he’s with someone else then it’s a no go, and if you ended things as it wasn’t right then deleting the number is the right thing to do.
You may be needing to direct confusion and anger at his contacting (whatever his motive, innocent or gameplaying) as it has triggered you to acknowledge that you’re upset/frustrated/angry/hurt/confused that it has highlighted something you’re unhappy about perhaps, and not necessarily about him per se. Accept that someone you were seeing for whatever motive was checking in on you, and continue to be you and do your thing.
You're making me think too much lady. When he told me he was seeing someone I kinda flipped I was angry and genuinely disappointed. My husband cheated so anything like that brings my stress out big time,maybe I was too quick to assume the worst.
It was me that finished it,but I did still want to see him if that makes sense,but he didn't unfortunately. He was a good guy,he didn't do anything wrong,I just felt we weren't suited.
Sooo having said that why do I feel disappointed?!"
Because he’s a nice person, you’re a nice person and it didn’t work out and you’d like it to work out with someone, it’s hard being on your own sometimes and when we hear that the nice ones (even if they weren’t right for us) are nice enough to think of us and show care in any form but have moved on and are with someone, it hurts. Not because we want them back particularly, although maybe a little, but because it just makes us wonder if there’s something wrong with us as to why it didn’t work out and really will there ever be someone it does work out with. His text just brings it all up again. It just wasn’t right, there’s no wrongdoing and sometimes that’s harder to accept then there being some big reason or drama or gameplay. |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course.
No. If i'm happy in a relationship I wouldn't feel the need nor inclination to do such.
That's my thoughts exactly! That's why I'm confused."
Not everyone thinks alike. Some people enjoy the thrill...others are eternally unsatisfied? |
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over a year ago
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"Maybe something prompted a little attack of nostalgia.
Yeah but if he's with someone he shouldn't be doing that. If I were his girlfriend I wouldn't be impressed."
I agree with this. It's weird after so long, and not fair on his girlfriend. I wouldn't feel bad about him anymore. |
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"So...if you were with someone in a relationship would you randomly text someone you dated some time ago and if so what would be the reason?
Hypothetically of course."
It's a no from me. |
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"Maybe something prompted a little attack of nostalgia.
Yeah but if he's with someone he shouldn't be doing that. If I were his girlfriend I wouldn't be impressed.
I agree with this. It's weird after so long, and not fair on his girlfriend. I wouldn't feel bad about him anymore. "
He's not as happy as he thinks he is with girlfriend, and thinking back on happier times |
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A guy I used to play with always starts messaging me whenever things are rocky with his girlfriend. He used to pass it off as me being someone he trusted to talk to about it but then he gets slightly flirty and is totally silent again when things are fine. He's even told me they broke up and then they apparently got back together a week later  . Honestly some people are just gross and always wanting to keep a back up plan on hold just in case. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I think someone can be in touch without it necessarily being gameplaying; the thing to focus on is how it affects you and what you want from the situation. If he’s with someone else then it’s a no go, and if you ended things as it wasn’t right then deleting the number is the right thing to do.
You may be needing to direct confusion and anger at his contacting (whatever his motive, innocent or gameplaying) as it has triggered you to acknowledge that you’re upset/frustrated/angry/hurt/confused that it has highlighted something you’re unhappy about perhaps, and not necessarily about him per se. Accept that someone you were seeing for whatever motive was checking in on you, and continue to be you and do your thing.
You're making me think too much lady. When he told me he was seeing someone I kinda flipped I was angry and genuinely disappointed. My husband cheated so anything like that brings my stress out big time,maybe I was too quick to assume the worst.
It was me that finished it,but I did still want to see him if that makes sense,but he didn't unfortunately. He was a good guy,he didn't do anything wrong,I just felt we weren't suited.
Sooo having said that why do I feel disappointed?!
Because he’s a nice person, you’re a nice person and it didn’t work out and you’d like it to work out with someone, it’s hard being on your own sometimes and when we hear that the nice ones (even if they weren’t right for us) are nice enough to think of us and show care in any form but have moved on and are with someone, it hurts. Not because we want them back particularly, although maybe a little, but because it just makes us wonder if there’s something wrong with us as to why it didn’t work out and really will there ever be someone it does work out with. His text just brings it all up again. It just wasn’t right, there’s no wrongdoing and sometimes that’s harder to accept then there being some big reason or drama or gameplay. "
Right I've thoroughly digested what you've said,but I still think he's a bugger for messaging me when he's with someone,whatever blooming reason it was for.
But that's it done and dusted,I'm not looking to get into anything at this moment anyway even if I had the soddin chance with anyone.
Just please Lord don't let me die alone... |
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over a year ago
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"Inside a mans head mainly consists of
Phwoar- nice arse/boobs
I'm hungry....although i think i'll have a crap first
I wonder whats on telly?
I think my car needs a wash
Phwoar- nice arse/boobs
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OMG she worked us out boys!!! Although I’d probably put Phoebe - nice boobs/arse under I’m hungry again!
Bugger, were so transparent...  |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"I think someone can be in touch without it necessarily being gameplaying; the thing to focus on is how it affects you and what you want from the situation. If he’s with someone else then it’s a no go, and if you ended things as it wasn’t right then deleting the number is the right thing to do.
You may be needing to direct confusion and anger at his contacting (whatever his motive, innocent or gameplaying) as it has triggered you to acknowledge that you’re upset/frustrated/angry/hurt/confused that it has highlighted something you’re unhappy about perhaps, and not necessarily about him per se. Accept that someone you were seeing for whatever motive was checking in on you, and continue to be you and do your thing.
You're making me think too much lady. When he told me he was seeing someone I kinda flipped I was angry and genuinely disappointed. My husband cheated so anything like that brings my stress out big time,maybe I was too quick to assume the worst.
It was me that finished it,but I did still want to see him if that makes sense,but he didn't unfortunately. He was a good guy,he didn't do anything wrong,I just felt we weren't suited.
Sooo having said that why do I feel disappointed?!
Because he’s a nice person, you’re a nice person and it didn’t work out and you’d like it to work out with someone, it’s hard being on your own sometimes and when we hear that the nice ones (even if they weren’t right for us) are nice enough to think of us and show care in any form but have moved on and are with someone, it hurts. Not because we want them back particularly, although maybe a little, but because it just makes us wonder if there’s something wrong with us as to why it didn’t work out and really will there ever be someone it does work out with. His text just brings it all up again. It just wasn’t right, there’s no wrongdoing and sometimes that’s harder to accept then there being some big reason or drama or gameplay.
Right I've thoroughly digested what you've said,but I still think he's a bugger for messaging me when he's with someone,whatever blooming reason it was for.
But that's it done and dusted,I'm not looking to get into anything at this moment anyway even if I had the soddin chance with anyone.
Just please Lord don't let me die alone..."
I’m not advocating for him either way - but yes, look after you and be gentle with yourself. You’re lovely and loveable. X |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I think someone can be in touch without it necessarily being gameplaying; the thing to focus on is how it affects you and what you want from the situation. If he’s with someone else then it’s a no go, and if you ended things as it wasn’t right then deleting the number is the right thing to do.
You may be needing to direct confusion and anger at his contacting (whatever his motive, innocent or gameplaying) as it has triggered you to acknowledge that you’re upset/frustrated/angry/hurt/confused that it has highlighted something you’re unhappy about perhaps, and not necessarily about him per se. Accept that someone you were seeing for whatever motive was checking in on you, and continue to be you and do your thing.
You're making me think too much lady. When he told me he was seeing someone I kinda flipped I was angry and genuinely disappointed. My husband cheated so anything like that brings my stress out big time,maybe I was too quick to assume the worst.
It was me that finished it,but I did still want to see him if that makes sense,but he didn't unfortunately. He was a good guy,he didn't do anything wrong,I just felt we weren't suited.
Sooo having said that why do I feel disappointed?!
Because he’s a nice person, you’re a nice person and it didn’t work out and you’d like it to work out with someone, it’s hard being on your own sometimes and when we hear that the nice ones (even if they weren’t right for us) are nice enough to think of us and show care in any form but have moved on and are with someone, it hurts. Not because we want them back particularly, although maybe a little, but because it just makes us wonder if there’s something wrong with us as to why it didn’t work out and really will there ever be someone it does work out with. His text just brings it all up again. It just wasn’t right, there’s no wrongdoing and sometimes that’s harder to accept then there being some big reason or drama or gameplay.
Right I've thoroughly digested what you've said,but I still think he's a bugger for messaging me when he's with someone,whatever blooming reason it was for.
But that's it done and dusted,I'm not looking to get into anything at this moment anyway even if I had the soddin chance with anyone.
Just please Lord don't let me die alone...
I’m not advocating for him either way - but yes, look after you and be gentle with yourself. You’re lovely and loveable. X"
That's nice of you to say thankyou,I've got more important thing's on my mind at the moment anyway so need to draw a line under it. |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
over a year ago
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"A guy I used to play with always starts messaging me whenever things are rocky with his girlfriend. He used to pass it off as me being someone he trusted to talk to about it but then he gets slightly flirty and is totally silent again when things are fine. He's even told me they broke up and then they apparently got back together a week later . Honestly some people are just gross and always wanting to keep a back up plan on hold just in case."
Some people are just cheeky sods aren't they. |
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"Maybe something prompted a little attack of nostalgia.
Yeah but if he's with someone he shouldn't be doing that. If I were his girlfriend I wouldn't be impressed.
I agree with this. It's weird after so long, and not fair on his girlfriend. I wouldn't feel bad about him anymore.
He's not as happy as he thinks he is with girlfriend, and thinking back on happier times"
Actually, that can be taken as a positive. I like that.  |
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By *gnitemybody OP Woman
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"Maybe something prompted a little attack of nostalgia.
Yeah but if he's with someone he shouldn't be doing that. If I were his girlfriend I wouldn't be impressed.
I agree with this. It's weird after so long, and not fair on his girlfriend. I wouldn't feel bad about him anymore.
He's not as happy as he thinks he is with girlfriend, and thinking back on happier times
Actually, that can be taken as a positive. I like that. "
I think that's a good note to finish it on,even if it's not true. |
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It's different when there's kids. Or if they stayed friends in between. 