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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether |
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over a year ago
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
I’m considering buying a metal straw so I can have it on nights out, or I’m happy with a paper one  |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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Mmm metal will react with acidic and carbonated liquids, it therefore would need to be brass or 316 stainless to meet fda approval..
1) it’s not that environmentally friendly to produce
2) would be far too expensive |
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I’m considering buying a metal straw so I can have it on nights out, or I’m happy with a paper one "
Metal straw for nights out isn’t a bad idea. Would be useful in the bag for eye poking some of the idiots in bars and clubs as well. Win win. |
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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
I’m considering buying a metal straw so I can have it on nights out, or I’m happy with a paper one "
You can get foldable ones for nights out. Can't remember where I saw them advertised though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
I think your missing the point, yes we are all adults here but one of the things of going into a fast food restaurant is so you can general drink and go, walking along with the lid off creates all kinds of problems lol.
Yes it’s a straw and yes we should just get over it but when they are still using so much plastic for everything else, why not change that instead of straws that do actually go soggy after about five mins and I don’t want to drink my drink without the lid on. |
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"So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ?"
annoys the hell out of me that so many places are using paper straws exclusively. I am now having to carry around plastic ones in my bag. Or remember to take a hard plastic one..
They should still be available to those that struggle with paper ones. ( like quite a few disabled people) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
I’m considering buying a metal straw so I can have it on nights out, or I’m happy with a paper one
You can get foldable ones for nights out. Can't remember where I saw them advertised though. "
Yeah that’s the ones I’m considering getting. Gonna wait until I’m not pregnant, I won’t be getting d*unk on nights out and therefore am sober and won’t spill my drink trying to get it to my mouth  |
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Hi he lids are going in 6 months time, they’re being replace with a polystyrene time lid that’s already made with 40 recycled materials they’re also looking into using the same materials for replacing the straws too due to the many complaints they’ve received but it’s early in development |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
The problem with paper straws is that you can’t get a good angle to strawpedo a drink with them, thus taking it longer for the uni students to reach the appropriate buzz to complain that they haven’t spent any time studying and are going to fail their course!! Won’t somebody think of the students??? |
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The plastic straw thing is a smokescreen and load of bollocks.
Make people think they're doing something for the planet when really in the grand scheme of things its fuck all.
Paper straws need trees to be cut down, paper to be bleached and dyed, all those chemicals and all that waste released back into the water. That's hardly great for the environment either.
We all need to consume less, not just consume differently.
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"So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ? annoys the hell out of me that so many places are using paper straws exclusively. I am now having to carry around plastic ones in my bag. Or remember to take a hard plastic one..
They should still be available to those that struggle with paper ones. ( like quite a few disabled people)"
I carry hard plastic ones as my Autistic step daughter won’t use them. Her Autism is sensory so she doesn’t like how they feel or taste |
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"Mmm metal will react with acidic and carbonated liquids, it therefore would need to be brass or 316 stainless to meet fda approval..
1) it’s not that environmentally friendly to produce
2) would be far too expensive"
I did get served with a metal straw somewhere, can't remember where, but it isn't easy to check whether it is 316 stainless or not. Maybe I should see if I can find a way to get some made for work somehow. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ?"
Edible, thin but strong gelatin type, in various flavours would be a good alternative. The lid and container, same |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
west here ford shire |
"Mmm metal will react with acidic and carbonated liquids, it therefore would need to be brass or 316 stainless to meet fda approval..
1) it’s not that environmentally friendly to produce
2) would be far too expensive
I did get served with a metal straw somewhere, can't remember where, but it isn't easy to check whether it is 316 stainless or not. Maybe I should see if I can find a way to get some made for work somehow. "
Easy to check if 316?
Are you a metalogiist?
You need to check the chemical make up
The percentage of molybdenum, nickel, carbon, chrome etc... still I’m sure you know what your doing? |
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"So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ?"
There is an argument that energy needed to gather, transport and process plastic alternatives will have a far big carbon impact than plastic. So I'm not convinced replacing disposable plastic with other materials is that great for the environment anyways, just harms it more in a different way.
Good point on the lids. I don't have the answer for a great alternative. Of course the real fix is to stop over consumption and using wasteful disposable things. Because even in a dream world where these items were 100% recyclable we would still need loads of energy to dispose, transport and recycle. |
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"Mmm metal will react with acidic and carbonated liquids, it therefore would need to be brass or 316 stainless to meet fda approval..
1) it’s not that environmentally friendly to produce
2) would be far too expensive
I did get served with a metal straw somewhere, can't remember where, but it isn't easy to check whether it is 316 stainless or not. Maybe I should see if I can find a way to get some made for work somehow.
Easy to check if 316?
Are you a metalogiist?
You need to check the chemical make up
The percentage of molybdenum, nickel, carbon, chrome etc... still I’m sure you know what your doing?"
Not easy to check at all, as I said. Unless it comes labelled as pharmaceutical grade. I don't believe it comes with any special stamp to identify as 316 grade but going to check. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Mmm metal will react with acidic and carbonated liquids, it therefore would need to be brass or 316 stainless to meet fda approval..
1) it’s not that environmentally friendly to produce
2) would be far too expensive"
Paper straws are a big step in the right direction.. Lids next! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I agree.
However every little helps in my opinion.
I hate paper straws but am happy to use them instead of plastic. I also have my own stainless steel straws I got off Amazon which I love!
I leave one in my bag! Just incase!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had a paper straw for the first time last week, I found it to work fine, in fact it was more girthy (see what I did there?  ) than the plastic ones so my milkshake disappeared in record time.
Someone mentioned lids, I do believe we need lids for use in cars to prevent spillage and burns, thought I think a lid made of the same stuff the cup is made of could be designed.
However how recyclable plastic cover cardboard is I have no idea. |
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Just been to a popular burger chain in Cheltenham... I have 2 kids and therefore probably need those plastic lids (there ARE alternatives available) but the dispenser they have is horrific, there were at least 20 torn useless plastic lids where people has discarded them to get a new one..... And still plastic straws |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
There are thousands of people who live on the end of a plastic straw it preserves a little bit of divinity and gives a little bit of independence that they otherwise would never have. These people really struggle now.
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There is a young Mexican who has just found that one can make a firm if biodegradable substance that has many plastic like properties from waste coconut shell. This can be used to make straws, line cardboard coffee cups and has many other uses.
Also another young engineer as just found that waste coffee granuals (one of the biggest single waste products from coffee shops can produce an oil similar to Palm oil which is used extensively through the food industry contributing to the demise of the Orangutan natural habitat in Indonesia.
So there's light on the horizon.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
There are thousands of people who live on the end of a plastic straw it preserves a little bit of divinity and gives a little bit of independence that they otherwise would never have. These people really struggle now.
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There is a young Mexican who has just found that one can make a firm if biodegradable substance that has many plastic like properties from waste coconut shell. This can be used to make straws, line cardboard coffee cups and has many other uses.
Also another young engineer as just found that waste coffee granuals (one of the biggest single waste products from coffee shops can produce an oil similar to Palm oil which is used extensively through the food industry contributing to the demise of the Orangutan natural habitat in Indonesia.
So there's light on the horizon. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a paper straw for the first time last week, I found it to work fine, in fact it was more girthy (see what I did there? ) than the plastic ones so my milkshake disappeared in record time.
Someone mentioned lids, I do believe we need lids for use in cars to prevent spillage and burns, thought I think a lid made of the same stuff the cup is made of could be designed.
However how recyclable plastic cover cardboard is I have no idea."
Shouldn't be allowed to drive with hot drinks!!! |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
I’m considering buying a metal straw so I can have it on nights out, or I’m happy with a paper one "
I take my own metal straw with me |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
There are thousands of people who live on the end of a plastic straw it preserves a little bit of divinity and gives a little bit of independence that they otherwise would never have. These people really struggle now.
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There is a young Mexican who has just found that one can make a firm if biodegradable substance that has many plastic like properties from waste coconut shell. This can be used to make straws, line cardboard coffee cups and has many other uses.
Also another young engineer as just found that waste coffee granuals (one of the biggest single waste products from coffee shops can produce an oil similar to Palm oil which is used extensively through the food industry contributing to the demise of the Orangutan natural habitat in Indonesia.
So there's light on the horizon. "
Scottish company for the coffee grounds, extracting a variety of oils from what is currently a waste product, thousands of tonnes a year that could also avoid going to landfill etc. Looking for backing at the moment from what I saw a few days ago. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
There are thousands of people who live on the end of a plastic straw it preserves a little bit of divinity and gives a little bit of independence that they otherwise would never have. These people really struggle now.
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There is a young Mexican who has just found that one can make a firm if biodegradable substance that has many plastic like properties from waste coconut shell. This can be used to make straws, line cardboard coffee cups and has many other uses.
Also another young engineer as just found that waste coffee granuals (one of the biggest single waste products from coffee shops can produce an oil similar to Palm oil which is used extensively through the food industry contributing to the demise of the Orangutan natural habitat in Indonesia.
So there's light on the horizon.
Scottish company for the coffee grounds, extracting a variety of oils from what is currently a waste product, thousands of tonnes a year that could also avoid going to landfill etc. Looking for backing at the moment from what I saw a few days ago. "
Brilliant if they get any genuine help. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sorry - I want to point out that my post was referring to all the folk who are just moaning about the paper straw because it’s something else to moan about. There’s a bloody petition going about where folk who are more than capable and able to use a paper straw but just don’t want too.
Not those who are unable to use a paper straw because of disabilities.
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
There are thousands of people who live on the end of a plastic straw it preserves a little bit of divinity and gives a little bit of independence that they otherwise would never have. These people really struggle now.
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There is a young Mexican who has just found that one can make a firm if biodegradable substance that has many plastic like properties from waste coconut shell. This can be used to make straws, line cardboard coffee cups and has many other uses.
Also another young engineer as just found that waste coffee granuals (one of the biggest single waste products from coffee shops can produce an oil similar to Palm oil which is used extensively through the food industry contributing to the demise of the Orangutan natural habitat in Indonesia.
So there's light on the horizon.
Scottish company for the coffee grounds, extracting a variety of oils from what is currently a waste product, thousands of tonnes a year that could also avoid going to landfill etc. Looking for backing at the moment from what I saw a few days ago.
Brilliant if they get any genuine help."
Fab funded? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They were introduced early last year at my local McDonald's and often visit I have had no problem ever with them. I seriously don't get what people are fussing about."
I suppose depends on how quick one guzzles down the smoothies. I've found I've need to use two or 3 before finishing as they all end in a mush unable to suck up anything. |
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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago
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There is an answer to paper straws..
Plastic ones..
Now get real, do we think that getting rid of a few plastic straws is going to help?
In the grand scheme, rhe amount of plastic waste from straws is minimal compared to all other the other plastic packaging that we throw away.
Straws was a apparent simple win which is why it was done, bullshit.. it was because the food manufacturers didn't want the cost of having to change production lines to accommodate different plastic free packaging... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is an answer to paper straws..
Plastic ones..
Now get real, do we think that getting rid of a few plastic straws is going to help?
In the grand scheme, rhe amount of plastic waste from straws is minimal compared to all other the other plastic packaging that we throw away.
Straws was a apparent simple win which is why it was done, bullshit.. it was because the food manufacturers didn't want the cost of having to change production lines to accommodate different plastic free packaging... "
Oh so very very sceptical... 
Very true though. Our Government is pulled by purse strings instead of what's best and right. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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It’s a curious argument when people say getting rid of plastic straws is a waste of time and isn’t going to do much. All I would say is that it isn’t going to make anything worse and it’s one of the easier things to change. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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They were introduced early last year at my local McDonald's and often visit I have had no problem ever with them. I seriously don't get what people are fussing about.
I suppose depends on how quick one guzzles down the smoothies. I've found I've need to use two or 3 before finishing as they all end in a mush unable to suck up anything. "
Metal straws!
The rose gold ones even look pretty! |
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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago
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"It’s a curious argument when people say getting rid of plastic straws is a waste of time and isn’t going to do much. All I would say is that it isn’t going to make anything worse and it’s one of the easier things to change. "
I am seriously concerned about the amount of plastic pollution we humans are creating..
I have scuba dived for 30 years now and in that time thre has been a massive increase in the amount of plastics seen in the water..
Plastic bags are probably the biggest polluter, polythene is so common that you will see it snagged on most reefs, outcrops or just laying on the sea floor.
Thats not even considering the micro plastic particles that are poisoning the underwater eco system that come from thin sheet plastic and polythene.
Getting rid of straws is a positive move (maybe not when you try and drink a Maccy D's milkshake) but its not where the problem is..
Plastic bags need to go completely, replace them with paper of hemp bags for life.
Replace plastic rubbish bags rubbish bins like we used to have.
And as for recycling, a common practice for recycling needs ro be employed across the UK rather than the half arsed approach we currently have. |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
They're fine for soft drinks, but just collapse if you try to drink a McDonalds milkshake with one... and the milkshakes are too thick to drink easily from the cup.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Paper straws are shit. Metal straws make handy offensive weapons. Apply a 5p charge for plastic straws like the bags. That's worked a treat. Give people the option. |
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"I really don’t think plastic straws are the problem
Every year we get through around 25 billion plastic straws
An interesting fact, but there are bigger fish to fry I’m sure."
Better hope the fish aren't filled with too many pollutants |
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"I really don’t think plastic straws are the problem
Every year we get through around 25 billion plastic straws
An interesting fact, but there are bigger fish to fry I’m sure.
Better hope the fish aren't filled with too many pollutants"
Well I’m sure the pollutants will still be there even after naming, shaming and banning the environmentally disastrous item that is the plastic straw. |
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"I really don’t think plastic straws are the problem
Every year we get through around 25 billion plastic straws
An interesting fact, but there are bigger fish to fry I’m sure.
Better hope the fish aren't filled with too many pollutants
Well I’m sure the pollutants will still be there even after naming, shaming and banning the environmentally disastrous item that is the plastic straw. "
Sadly yes they will |
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"There is an answer to paper straws..
Plastic ones..
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Theres actually two answers- the second one being don't drink the tooth rotting, sugar packed, over priced carbonated belch drinks in the firat place- in particular toliet cleaner....sorry, i meant Coke |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm just going to put my whiskey in a camelback on a night out instead of using straws! Sorted..hands are free, no straws, doesn't get knocked out of my hand or spiked!!! "
Omg that made me chuckle, that's one way of using a camelback |
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Needs to be mandatory use of a personal reusable no-spill mug for take away drinks. Outlet should sell the mug for a non-trivial cost (£1? £2?) for the first time purchaser, no charge when customer comes back next time with their (hopefully washed out) mug.
Eat in customers should get a proper cup that the establishment washes and reuses.
Repeat across all types of takeaway, for mugs, food containers, cutlery. Aim for a zero waste takeaway culture.
Follow up would be to target supermarket packaging, in particular ready meals. This could be more difficult. And yes i am an offender on this count. Pre-packaged food is a symptom of our rush-rush culture, over work, insufficient time for home cooking etc. Just banning ready meal packaging would not work, it needs a change in culture for how this type of food is made and sold. |
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"Needs to be mandatory use of a personal reusable no-spill mug for take away drinks. Outlet should sell the mug for a non-trivial cost (£1? £2?) for the first time purchaser, no charge when customer comes back next time with their (hopefully washed out) mug.
Eat in customers should get a proper cup that the establishment washes and reuses.
Repeat across all types of takeaway, for mugs, food containers, cutlery. Aim for a zero waste takeaway culture.."
And where will all the reusable stuff be made...and at what cost... |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"The plastic straw thing is a smokescreen and load of bollocks.
Make people think they're doing something for the planet when really in the grand scheme of things its fuck all.
Paper straws need trees to be cut down, paper to be bleached and dyed, all those chemicals and all that waste released back into the water. That's hardly great for the environment either.
We all need to consume less, not just consume differently.
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Not a load of bollocks many islands in the Caribbean have stopped using plastic straws as if they end up in the sea turtles tend to eat them .But do agree that we need to consume less and i personally can drink without a straw and dont need a lid on my drink just yet. |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
Exactly this |
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"So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ?"
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I say do away with the straw and the lid and drink it like a gwone up  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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20 years ago you didn't see people clutching coffee cups and/or bottles of water everywhere they went and that generation is still doing ok. Why do 21st century people feel the need to do this? Drink tap water at home before you leave, or at work when you get there - same for coffee or tea and use a re-usable mug or glass.
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"Bottled water is more of an issue since so much is consumed. Stores should start providing refills a reduced cost to cut down on plastic bottle use."
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It should just be made illegal, drink it from the friggin tap you wasteless chavs |
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"Bottled water is more of an issue since so much is consumed. Stores should start providing refills a reduced cost to cut down on plastic bottle use..
It should just be made illegal, drink it from the friggin tap you wasteless chavs"
I buy a large bottle at the beginning of the summer and refill it as necessary from the tap. |
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"Bottled water is more of an issue since so much is consumed. Stores should start providing refills a reduced cost to cut down on plastic bottle use..
It should just be made illegal, drink it from the friggin tap you wasteless chavs
I buy a large bottle at the beginning of the summer and refill it as necessary from the tap."
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You do know you shouldn't reuse plastic don't you?. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ?.
I say do away with the straw and the lid and drink it like a gwone up "
I’d drink straight out of the cup, if my teeth weren’t sensitive.
That’s why I use a straw, and because I’m clumsy! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have a reusable coffee cup made from bamboo, with a silicone lid to stop spills. Pretty sure it works with cold drinks too. Maybe fast food chains should do the same as coffee shops |
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I have a travel cup, for driving.
I drink a lot of coffee on motorways, won't use the disposable cups, I never have.
Since we've switched to paper straws at the bar, a lot of regulars have bought themselves, solid reusable plastic straws as they don't like the paper ones.
One of our old dears has mild Parkinsons, her hands shake so she can't always pick her glass up easily.
She's got one of those curly wurly straws now, she is a legend!
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"Maybe we should be given the choice. I hate the paper ones, they stick to my lips, for some reason "
I’ve noticed the paper straws sticking to my lips... and as the end of the straw gets wet it gives off an unusual taste
Maybe it’s a thing for people with juicy soft moist lips |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Maybe we should be given the choice. I hate the paper ones, they stick to my lips, for some reason
I’ve noticed the paper straws sticking to my lips... and as the end of the straw gets wet it gives off an unusual taste
Maybe it’s a thing for people with juicy soft moist lips "
Haha Maybe..thought the skin was going to come of my lips |
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"So a large fast food company introduced a part straw, replacing their original plastic straw. Thus better for the environment...
I say ok, what about the plastic lid used on every one of its drinks they sell??
Surely this makes it a pointless exercise ?"
If you could only recycle paper, but not cardboard, would you not bother because that was a pointless exercise too? 
Presumably these things can’t just change overnight, but it’s still probably worth doing.
I agree about just getting rid of the lids altogether though. |
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"Paper straws are shit. Metal straws make handy offensive weapons. Apply a 5p charge for plastic straws like the bags. That's worked a treat. Give people the option."
That's just increasing stealth taxes. It's not got rid of plastic bags, it has reduced them. They don't just charge for plastic bags, paper carrier bags are charged for too in most places now.
The solution isn't charging the end user but the supplier/ manufacturers. This would create the incentive to provide bio degradable packaging. But the government is run by those in CEO positions in industry so it won't do that as it'll cause share to drop as profits drop.
The answer probably lies with the masses responding by not buying any products contained in plastic packaging. The industry would very swiftly move from plastic! |
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"Paper straws are shit. Metal straws make handy offensive weapons. Apply a 5p charge for plastic straws like the bags. That's worked a treat. Give people the option.
That's just increasing stealth taxes. It's not got rid of plastic bags, it has reduced them. They don't just charge for plastic bags, paper carrier bags are charged for too in most places now.
The solution isn't charging the end user but the supplier/ manufacturers. This would create the incentive to provide bio degradable packaging. But the government is run by those in CEO positions in industry so it won't do that as it'll cause share to drop as profits drop.
The answer probably lies with the masses responding by not buying any products contained in plastic packaging. The industry would very swiftly move from plastic!"
I’m confused. Is the government trying to make us all a bit more environmentally friendly to impose green / stealth taxes on us....
Or is the government happy for us not to more environmentally because it doesn’t want to piss off big business?
Don’t get me wrong, the government is utter shit in more ways than I can count, but that sounds like a bit of a contradiction.
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Got one of these paper straws recently... With a thick milkshake. So after 5 minutes of trying to suck the milkshake through the straw and the end of the straw had all deformed and was just stuck together and almost sealed... I obviously understand why the removal of the straws but as previously said the lids still plastic and the cardboard straw just wasn't up to scratch.. ended up just taking the lid off x |
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By *htcMan
over a year ago
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They were introduced early last year at my local McDonald's and often visit I have had no problem ever with them. I seriously don't get what people are fussing about.
I suppose depends on how quick one guzzles down the smoothies. I've found I've need to use two or 3 before finishing as they all end in a mush unable to suck up anything. "
lasted over the 20-30minutes i was in mcdonalds, still dont have a problem with them lasting, plenty of time |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
I agree no plastic lid should be given unless its at the drive through. |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
I agree no plastic lid should be given unless its at the drive through. "
The lids give the cups rigidity |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether
I agree no plastic lid should be given unless its at the drive through.
The lids give the cups rigidity"
They could be made that bit better tho and then no need for the lid for suport |
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"Don’t get me started, I had a right rant about this the other week. Metal straws are the way forward apparently Surely the way forward is no straws"
Not for those of us with sensitive teeth it isn’t!
I use a straw for that reason, if I drink directly from a cup it bloody hurts if it’s cold! |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"It’s a curious argument when people say getting rid of plastic straws is a waste of time and isn’t going to do much. All I would say is that it isn’t going to make anything worse and it’s one of the easier things to change.
I am seriously concerned about the amount of plastic pollution we humans are creating..
I have scuba dived for 30 years now and in that time thre has been a massive increase in the amount of plastics seen in the water..
Plastic bags are probably the biggest polluter, polythene is so common that you will see it snagged on most reefs, outcrops or just laying on the sea floor.
Thats not even considering the micro plastic particles that are poisoning the underwater eco system that come from thin sheet plastic and polythene.
Getting rid of straws is a positive move (maybe not when you try and drink a Maccy D's milkshake) but its not where the problem is..
Plastic bags need to go completely, replace them with paper of hemp bags for life.
Replace plastic rubbish bags rubbish bins like we used to have.
And as for recycling, a common practice for recycling needs ro be employed across the UK rather than the half arsed approach we currently have."
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"The plastic straw thing is a smokescreen and load of bollocks.
Make people think they're doing something for the planet when really in the grand scheme of things its fuck all.
Paper straws need trees to be cut down, paper to be bleached and dyed, all those chemicals and all that waste released back into the water. That's hardly great for the environment either.
We all need to consume less, not just consume differently.
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But all those straws are going into the recycled paper waste stream. It's good mechanical pulp that can be reused about 5 times before the fibres are no longer viable and pass through the paper machine as fines. Paper making is far better for the environment than plastic manufacturing. You know pulp manufacturers grow more trees than they cut down? You know any mill in the UK that uses virgin pulp sources it from pulp mills that grow more than they cut down. You know that bleaching process is oxygen bleaching? You know the chemical byproducts are not dumped into rivers but used by other industries?
I do.
That's what twenty odd years in the paper industry teaches you. |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"The plastic straw thing is a smokescreen and load of bollocks.
Make people think they're doing something for the planet when really in the grand scheme of things its fuck all.
Paper straws need trees to be cut down, paper to be bleached and dyed, all those chemicals and all that waste released back into the water. That's hardly great for the environment either.
We all need to consume less, not just consume differently.
But all those straws are going into the recycled paper waste stream. It's good mechanical pulp that can be reused about 5 times before the fibres are no longer viable and pass through the paper machine as fines. Paper making is far better for the environment than plastic manufacturing. You know pulp manufacturers grow more trees than they cut down? You know any mill in the UK that uses virgin pulp sources it from pulp mills that grow more than they cut down. You know that bleaching process is oxygen bleaching? You know the chemical byproducts are not dumped into rivers but used by other industries?
I do.
That's what twenty odd years in the paper industry teaches you."
And he still got a paper cut |
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By *egan_CDTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
Exactly this. All straws seemed to be paper when I was a kid (apart from blue school-milk ones), and it really wasn’t a problem. People need to get a grip. |
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"Those who moan about the paper straws are fucktards. You use them for ten mins, max. Take the lid off and drink like a fucking adult. Can’t wait until they discard of the plastic lid altogether "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Complaining about or too the company in question is irrelevant. Legislation was passed a few weeks ago prohibiting plastic straws (though not the lids which incidentally cost more than the cup and straw combined) so the company has not done it to be green or to annoy customers or to save money they have done it because they have had their hands forced by legislation. |
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