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A businessman was in some poor country watching people scavenge on a waste site. He noticed men setting fire to plastics in pot holes to help fill them. He came away and tinkered with waste plastic. Some counties are trialling plastic mixed with tarmac in potholes. The potholes filled with this combination are lasting longer. |
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Well plastics do last for thousands of years .. maybe if fully recycled can be used as alternatives to buildings and vehicles ... I've seen videos of people using plastic bottles filled with clay and dirt to build walls and houses. |
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"A businessman was in some poor country watching people scavenge on a waste site. He noticed men setting fire to plastics in pot holes to help fill them. He came away and tinkered with waste plastic. Some counties are trialling plastic mixed with tarmac in potholes. The potholes filled with this combination are lasting longer."
Well thats the next big health scandal sorted.
Millions of tons of finely ground plastic particles being breathed in, flowing into water sources and the food chain |
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We still ain't fixing things because the real solutions are too hard the swallow. The problem is not too much plastic. Replacing plastic is just treating a symptom with something that won't fix the illness but will exacerbate other symptoms. The real illness is over consumption and no one wants to face up to it. Hard I know because I am just as complicit in this as the next person and I enjoy the trapping of a first would capitalism society. The move towards replacing plastic with other materials may be reducing plastic in the water but at the cost of increasing the carbon foot print. So if anything we're just harming the environment in an other rather than fixing the real issue. Plastic is a wonderful material. The problem is not plastic but over consumption and waste. So replacing it with something else is not really fixing the problem. Unfortunately the backbone of Capitalism is consumption. To make money you need to maximise production and keep people consuming. |
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"We still ain't fixing things because the real solutions are too hard the swallow. The problem is not too much plastic. Replacing plastic is just treating a symptom with something that won't fix the illness but will exacerbate other symptoms. The real illness is over consumption and no one wants to face up to it. Hard I know because I am just as complicit in this as the next person and I enjoy the trapping of a first would capitalism society. The move towards replacing plastic with other materials may be reducing plastic in the water but at the cost of increasing the carbon foot print. So if anything we're just harming the environment in an other rather than fixing the real issue. Plastic is a wonderful material. The problem is not plastic but over consumption and waste. So replacing it with something else is not really fixing the problem. Unfortunately the backbone of Capitalism is consumption. To make money you need to maximise production and keep people consuming."
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"We still ain't fixing things because the real solutions are too hard the swallow. The problem is not too much plastic. Replacing plastic is just treating a symptom with something that won't fix the illness but will exacerbate other symptoms. The real illness is over consumption and no one wants to face up to it. Hard I know because I am just as complicit in this as the next person and I enjoy the trapping of a first would capitalism society. The move towards replacing plastic with other materials may be reducing plastic in the water but at the cost of increasing the carbon foot print. So if anything we're just harming the environment in an other rather than fixing the real issue. Plastic is a wonderful material. The problem is not plastic but over consumption and waste. So replacing it with something else is not really fixing the problem. Unfortunately the backbone of Capitalism is consumption. To make money you need to maximise production and keep people consuming."
This is all very true, but I’m also seeing people starting to seriously become more eco too, driving electric cars putting solar panels up recycling etc but the food industry and internet selling needs to have a rethink that’s where the majority of plastic seems to come from now and it’s not being recycled as it should be |
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I worked in packaging so saw the huge industrial effort that went into it. Even cellophane or tear-off-strip used massive amounts of energy to produce for throwaway wraps. People are improving but as a gardener the majority still reach to control nature. Neatness over biodiversity. |
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"We still ain't fixing things because the real solutions are too hard the swallow. The problem is not too much plastic. Replacing plastic is just treating a symptom with something that won't fix the illness but will exacerbate other symptoms. The real illness is over consumption and no one wants to face up to it. Hard I know because I am just as complicit in this as the next person and I enjoy the trapping of a first would capitalism society. The move towards replacing plastic with other materials may be reducing plastic in the water but at the cost of increasing the carbon foot print. So if anything we're just harming the environment in an other rather than fixing the real issue. Plastic is a wonderful material. The problem is not plastic but over consumption and waste. So replacing it with something else is not really fixing the problem. Unfortunately the backbone of Capitalism is consumption. To make money you need to maximise production and keep people consuming.
This is all very true, but I’m also seeing people starting to seriously become more eco too, driving electric cars putting solar panels up recycling etc but the food industry and internet selling needs to have a rethink that’s where the majority of plastic seems to come from now and it’s not being recycled as it should be "
Not one of those things is remotely eco frendly |
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Bottled water sales in the UK are still up, on a year ago - albeit a small slowing in growth. This in a country with good tap water.
Coffee shops are still selling coffee in millions of cups containing plastic that won't be recycled and there's no uproar
We each have plastic in our bodies but aren't bothered |
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"We still ain't fixing things because the real solutions are too hard the swallow. The problem is not too much plastic. Replacing plastic is just treating a symptom with something that won't fix the illness but will exacerbate other symptoms. The real illness is over consumption and no one wants to face up to it. Hard I know because I am just as complicit in this as the next person and I enjoy the trapping of a first would capitalism society. The move towards replacing plastic with other materials may be reducing plastic in the water but at the cost of increasing the carbon foot print. So if anything we're just harming the environment in an other rather than fixing the real issue. Plastic is a wonderful material. The problem is not plastic but over consumption and waste. So replacing it with something else is not really fixing the problem. Unfortunately the backbone of Capitalism is consumption. To make money you need to maximise production and keep people consuming.
This is all very true, but I’m also seeing people starting to seriously become more eco too, driving electric cars putting solar panels up recycling etc but the food industry and internet selling needs to have a rethink that’s where the majority of plastic seems to come from now and it’s not being recycled as it should be
Not one of those things is remotely eco frendly"
Electric cars solar panels and recycling are not eco friendly ? Why do you think that |
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"A businessman was in some poor country watching people scavenge on a waste site. He noticed men setting fire to plastics in pot holes to help fill them. He came away and tinkered with waste plastic. Some counties are trialling plastic mixed with tarmac in potholes. The potholes filled with this combination are lasting longer.
Well thats the next big health scandal sorted.
Millions of tons of finely ground plastic particles being breathed in, flowing into water sources and the food chain"
No, a small percentage is melted in with the tarmac, making it more pliable and less likely to break up. |
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"We still ain't fixing things because the real solutions are too hard the swallow. The problem is not too much plastic. Replacing plastic is just treating a symptom with something that won't fix the illness but will exacerbate other symptoms. The real illness is over consumption and no one wants to face up to it. Hard I know because I am just as complicit in this as the next person and I enjoy the trapping of a first would capitalism society. The move towards replacing plastic with other materials may be reducing plastic in the water but at the cost of increasing the carbon foot print. So if anything we're just harming the environment in an other rather than fixing the real issue. Plastic is a wonderful material. The problem is not plastic but over consumption and waste. So replacing it with something else is not really fixing the problem. Unfortunately the backbone of Capitalism is consumption. To make money you need to maximise production and keep people consuming.
This is all very true, but I’m also seeing people starting to seriously become more eco too, driving electric cars putting solar panels up recycling etc but the food industry and internet selling needs to have a rethink that’s where the majority of plastic seems to come from now and it’s not being recycled as it should be
Not one of those things is remotely eco frendly
Electric cars solar panels and recycling are not eco friendly ? Why do you think that "
Because they all consume huge resources, and require dirty extensive mining and rwfinement operations
Jts kinda like saying burning rubbish is eco friendly because saves on landfill |
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"A businessman was in some poor country watching people scavenge on a waste site. He noticed men setting fire to plastics in pot holes to help fill them. He came away and tinkered with waste plastic. Some counties are trialling plastic mixed with tarmac in potholes. The potholes filled with this combination are lasting longer.
Well thats the next big health scandal sorted.
Millions of tons of finely ground plastic particles being breathed in, flowing into water sources and the food chain
No, a small percentage is melted in with the tarmac, making it more pliable and less likely to break up."
So millions of tons of fine plastic dust |
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"A businessman was in some poor country watching people scavenge on a waste site. He noticed men setting fire to plastics in pot holes to help fill them. He came away and tinkered with waste plastic. Some counties are trialling plastic mixed with tarmac in potholes. The potholes filled with this combination are lasting longer.
Well thats the next big health scandal sorted.
Millions of tons of finely ground plastic particles being breathed in, flowing into water sources and the food chain
No, a small percentage is melted in with the tarmac, making it more pliable and less likely to break up.
So millions of tons of fine plastic dust "
Not sure what you are arguing about. The plastic is combined with the tarmac, so not plastic anymore. The tarmac lasts longer, so less time and money refilling potholes. |
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"We still ain't fixing things because the real solutions are too hard the swallow. The problem is not too much plastic. Replacing plastic is just treating a symptom with something that won't fix the illness but will exacerbate other symptoms. The real illness is over consumption and no one wants to face up to it. Hard I know because I am just as complicit in this as the next person and I enjoy the trapping of a first would capitalism society. The move towards replacing plastic with other materials may be reducing plastic in the water but at the cost of increasing the carbon foot print. So if anything we're just harming the environment in an other rather than fixing the real issue. Plastic is a wonderful material. The problem is not plastic but over consumption and waste. So replacing it with something else is not really fixing the problem. Unfortunately the backbone of Capitalism is consumption. To make money you need to maximise production and keep people consuming.
This is all very true, but I’m also seeing people starting to seriously become more eco too, driving electric cars putting solar panels up recycling etc but the food industry and internet selling needs to have a rethink that’s where the majority of plastic seems to come from now and it’s not being recycled as it should be
Not one of those things is remotely eco frendly
Electric cars solar panels and recycling are not eco friendly ? Why do you think that
Because they all consume huge resources, and require dirty extensive mining and rwfinement operations
Jts kinda like saying burning rubbish is eco friendly because saves on landfill"
Burning rubbish isn’t eco friendly either, everything should be easily recycled ie one type of plastic non coloured, all paper recycled too |
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