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"I love emojis! "So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others. | |||
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"I love emojis! So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others. "That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent. And that I love emojis! | |||
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"I love emojis! So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.
That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.
And that I love emojis! "I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away? | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way " What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? | |||
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"I love emojis! So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.
That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.
And that I love emojis! I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away?"I offered the information...if I didn't want you to know, I wouldn't have. | |||
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"I love emojis! So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.
That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.
And that I love emojis! I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away?
I offered the information...if I didn't want you to know, I wouldn't have."Ok thanks, is that you in your entirety? | |||
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"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. " Is that a good thing if people are lazy? | |||
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"I love emojis! So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.
That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.
And that I love emojis! I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away?
I offered the information...if I didn't want you to know, I wouldn't have.Ok thanks, is that you in your entirety? "Barely scratching the surface...
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight?" Or they might report you and get you a ban. | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight?" Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. " It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. "  | |||
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"No longer are you internally deciding for yourself how you come across but are being assisted to 'group think'. No longer is your mind working to discern love,happiness,humour, windups,sarcasm,anger etc etc. you are being fed what the other person means to the detriment of thought and interaction. They are making people mentally lazy and will end up changing the way brains operate.Thats a little too personal for me. I'm not using them anymore! " Wow...a case of overthinking me thinks...     | |||
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"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. " That | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way " | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries." Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking. | |||
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"No longer are you internally deciding for yourself how you come across but are being assisted to 'group think'. No longer is your mind working to discern love,happiness,humour, windups,sarcasm,anger etc etc. you are being fed what the other person means to the detriment of thought and interaction. They are making people mentally lazy and will end up changing the way brains operate.Thats a little too personal for me. I'm not using them anymore! " Here here | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way "Are we treading too carefully? Why worry so much if offense is not intended? Surely reasonable adjudicators know the difference? | |||
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"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. Is that a good thing if people are lazy?" Have a lady friend and whenever we text i put an appropriate emoticon at the end so she doesn't take the comment the wrong way. Easier then writing ten more sentences where i'm explaining in what way did i ment what i wrote. It's not lazy..just helps expressing yourself in certain situations. If you don't like it then don't use them. That's it. | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking." Ok, without being controversial I can see how emojis may help those who need their help. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious " And that too .. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious " This is an example of someone who through using his mental powers has arrived at a place where he discerns for himself. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious This is an example of someone who through using his mental powers has arrived at a place where he discerns for himself. "Indeed | |||
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"No longer are you internally deciding for yourself how you come across but are being assisted to 'group think'. No longer is your mind working to discern love,happiness,humour, windups,sarcasm,anger etc etc. you are being fed what the other person means to the detriment of thought and interaction. They are making people mentally lazy and will end up changing the way brains operate.Thats a little too personal for me. I'm not using them anymore! " | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious " Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Ok, without being controversial I can see how emojis may help those who need their help." I respect your point about novels yet the mind still questions during the reading of and imagination is used. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!" Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence " You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often." Read my post again,I said iv never liked them | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? " See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Read my post again,I said iv never liked them" It also says you never used them. I suspect you missed a word out. | |||
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"Perhaps we could start a thread on the use or misuse/non use of punctuation as well. That can often lead to misunderstanding as much as the lack of context in the written word. I know I'm no angel, before someone tries to rip my posts apart!" Evie when someone mispunctuates (is that a word? It is now!) Surely you work out what they are trying to say? | |||
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"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. Is that a good thing if people are lazy?" I'm not against laziness per se. In many contexts striving and making a huge effort lacks dignity in my opinion. I hate text-speak for example which is to me a negative example of lazy behaviour | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. "Haha you do make me smile with your comments, here have a smiley emoji | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar.
Haha you do make me smile with your comments, here have a smiley emoji "Thanks | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. "Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself? | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?".....ok? Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear. | |||
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"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. Is that a good thing if people are lazy? I'm not against laziness per se. In many contexts striving and making a huge effort lacks dignity in my opinion. I hate text-speak for example which is to me a negative example of lazy behaviour " All depends what your striving for! Isn't that a personal thing? Text speech I don't like either! | |||
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"The trouble is, how I find it, is that if good communication is 80% body language then messaging is a bad form of communication, which personally I find it is. So I'm happy to back up what I've written with an emoji that would best help describe what I'm saying. It's great you've decided not to use them but unfortunately you'll not be able to stop other people. Best not let it bother you OP ... "Thanks for your insight, not trying to stop people but putting out my thoughts on the subject to provoke thought. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?
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Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear. "No I wasn't? I was explaining my bear avatar was for St George's day | |||
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"I love emojis! "Me too  | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?
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Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.
No I wasn't? I was explaining my bear avatar was for St George's day"Hmmm, if only there was a way to convey that you weren't miffed and to prevent the reader misinterpreting your words... | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?
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Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.
No I wasn't? I was explaining my bear avatar was for St George's day"....ok | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking." Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual? | |||
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"Here have a crab, iv named it shelly" Hmmmm......I wonder how this action could be construed? Belligerence? Sarcastic? Dare I say child like? Lol you are a funny thing Mr Dash! Yet another child's toy as an avatar....but we are not kids. Any whoo, this has been fun but now I must away to work where phones are not permitted. Enjoy your emojiless day one and all. | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual?" What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. | |||
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"Here have a crab, iv named it shelly Hmmmm......I wonder how this action could be construed? Belligerence? Sarcastic? Dare I say child like? Lol you are a funny thing Mr Dash! Yet another child's toy as an avatar....but we are not kids. Any whoo, this has been fun but now I must away to work where phones are not permitted. Enjoy your emojiless day one and all. " Now that communication to your friend brought a smile to my face and not an emoji in sight! | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual? What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. " I acknowledge what your saying. | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual? What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. I acknowledge what your saying. " I would point out (pedantic I know) but your misuse of the word 'your' is indicative of this issue; people aren't perfect with grammar. A misplaced punctuation mark can be crucial (pandas anyone?). Adding Emojis, as M&G stated, adds part of the missing social cues which are essential for good communication. In our busy lives we don't have time to write full reactive discourse. Emojis are an available tool for clarity so why not use them. To me it's a little like saying that email is lazy. What's wrong with typing your message out on a typewriter, buying a stamp, then waiting patiently for your communication to reach its target? | |||
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"Emojis have their place, as with virtual communication Mehrabians Rule of 7/38/55 Is definitely skewed. Just to clarify any direct communication between people is roughly 7% what is said, 38% how it is said and 55%, every other non verbal cue. Due to the inability to convey tone, timing, or inflection purely by the written word (unless you are incredibly gifted, or famous - try reading a book by Jeremy Clarkson without it sounding like his voice in your head!) You are losing over 90% of your communication with your audience. Unless they know you well a flatly written statememt could be taken as sincere, deadpan humour, sarcasm... and that all depends on how it is read. I can boil this down to the use of a single word. Fine. If a man asks his female partner if she is ok (in the same room) and she replies "Fine".. is that really fine? Is there tension in her voice?, is it raised? Is she slamming cupboard doors? Are her lips pursed? I am sure many men would agree if they got a one word answer of "Fine" they should start to worry about whatever it is they may have done wrong. Now take that situation and separate the people. A reply by text that just says "Fine" sets alarm bells ringing... and thisbis the place to use emojis. Rather than waffle on with details about how fine you may or may not be the addition of a smiling face takes the place of the time, inclination and matching body language. " People will not grow in understanding people or their written communication by calling on their past experiences or learning new ones, such a use of the mind will become redundant. | |||
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"Emojis have their place, as with virtual communication Mehrabians Rule of 7/38/55 Is definitely skewed. Just to clarify any direct communication between people is roughly 7% what is said, 38% how it is said and 55%, every other non verbal cue. Due to the inability to convey tone, timing, or inflection purely by the written word (unless you are incredibly gifted, or famous - try reading a book by Jeremy Clarkson without it sounding like his voice in your head!) You are losing over 90% of your communication with your audience. Unless they know you well a flatly written statememt could be taken as sincere, deadpan humour, sarcasm... and that all depends on how it is read. I can boil this down to the use of a single word. Fine. If a man asks his female partner if she is ok (in the same room) and she replies "Fine".. is that really fine? Is there tension in her voice?, is it raised? Is she slamming cupboard doors? Are her lips pursed? I am sure many men would agree if they got a one word answer of "Fine" they should start to worry about whatever it is they may have done wrong. Now take that situation and separate the people. A reply by text that just says "Fine" sets alarm bells ringing... and thisbis the place to use emojis. Rather than waffle on with details about how fine you may or may not be the addition of a smiling face takes the place of the time, inclination and matching body language. People will not grow in understanding people or their written communication by calling on their past experiences or learning new ones, such a use of the mind will become redundant." We live on an age of bad communication, rushed time and laziness unfortunately... | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual? What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. I acknowledge what your saying. " Don't be stupid (am I having a laugh with you, or do I actually think you're stupid?) | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning. I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries. Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual? What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. I acknowledge what your saying. I would point out (pedantic I know) but your misuse of the word 'your' is indicative of this issue; people aren't perfect with grammar. A misplaced punctuation mark can be crucial (pandas anyone?). Adding Emojis, as M&G stated, adds part of the missing social cues which are essential for good communication. In our busy lives we don't have time to write full reactive discourse. Emojis are an available tool for clarity so why not use them. To me it's a little like saying that email is lazy. What's wrong with typing your message out on a typewriter, buying a stamp, then waiting patiently for your communication to reach its target? " I was acknowledging what the person who replied to my comment about dumbing down said. I see no fault. | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis." So people who use emojis don’t have a reasoned idea? | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis." Maybe they're boring and think without emotion. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. " Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis. Maybe they're boring and think without emotion." How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion? | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis. Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?" After all this is my love letter to you! | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis. Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?After all this is my love letter to you!" I'm being humourous. | |||
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"I don't mind them as an addition or a simplistic response or acknowledgment. I do think they get a bit over used and become a little meaningless. " The same argument could be used against the letter E | |||
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Crap noooooooooooooooo" that sort of sick? | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?"No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism. | |||
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"Are we before and after . Op? "I am always willing to learn if something is so incorrect as to need correction! | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism."I totally understand this. Autistic people tend not to understand sarcasm so I can see how it would help differentiate x | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism."Got you,if they help you then that's a great use for emojis! | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.
I totally understand this. Autistic people tend not to understand sarcasm so I can see how it would help differentiate x "I understand it if I can hear a voice and see facial expressions. An emoji conveys the same message in the absence of those things. | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis. Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?" We're not wrot7ng love letters though. This is a forum where conversation flows fast and is, mostly, at a superficial level. We don't need to think deep most of the time and we write with an air of brevity, to get our point across. We aren't writing novels here Huey. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.
I totally understand this. Autistic people tend not to understand sarcasm so I can see how it would help differentiate x
I understand it if I can hear a voice and see facial expressions. An emoji conveys the same message in the absence of those things. "Definitely. Although I think they help anyway. Texts can often be construed incorrectly. I like emojis | |||
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"Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments. " "How time consuming that would be" she said, with an air of annoyance and an eye roll. | |||
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"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence. Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not) I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs. If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) " This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words. | |||
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"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence. Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not) I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs. If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words." A picture is worth a thousand words after all | |||
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"Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments. Didn't we generally manage before in letter or note writing apart from the odd illustration, X or perfume scent to accompany it?" We're on an internet forum with multiple people posting at the same time. We have to roll with the times. | |||
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"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence. Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not) I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs. If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words. A picture is worth a thousand words after all" Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work! | |||
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"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence. Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not) I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs. If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words. A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work!" Not an art connoisseur then. | |||
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"Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments. Didn't we generally manage before in letter or note writing apart from the odd illustration, X or perfume scent to accompany it? We're on an internet forum with multiple people posting at the same time. We have to roll with the times. " I'm smiling, times change. | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way
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"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence. Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not) I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs. If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words. A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work! Not an art connoisseur then." I'm looking for a female to pose for a portrait, know anyone? | |||
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way
Are we treading too carefully? Why worry so much if offense is not intended? Surely reasonable adjudicators know the difference?
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"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence. Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not) I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs. If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words. A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work! Not an art connoisseur then.I'm looking for a female to pose for a portrait, know anyone?" If your art work is akin to Rubens I might. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism."Sounds to me like he was taking the piss if he was repeatedly asking if you understood. Or he was genuinely trying to help. Interesting example. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.
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"The written word can be taken is so many different ways. I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain. Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't. Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted. I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in. So yes, I am an Emoji user. As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me. " One of the oft used reasons I've heard is you have to know me to get me, a stranger wouldn't. I don't think that's necessarily true. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.
Sounds to me like he was taking the piss if he was repeatedly asking if you understood.
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"The written word can be taken is so many different ways. I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain. Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't. Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted. I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in. So yes, I am an Emoji user. As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me. One of the oft used reasons I've heard is you have to know me to get me, a stranger wouldn't. I don't think that's necessarily true." Another thing I will add is with emojis do they help people to get a feel for you. | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really." Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect. | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really." Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really. Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect. " Is that you saying you expected I would be an arrogant prick? | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face." If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. | |||
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" emjois are fantastic I love emojis all tho this site is limited in its choice of emojis
Mrscxxx "Thank God for that Mrsc it would be worse than learning Japanese! | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really. Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect. Is that you saying you expected I would be an arrogant prick? "I didn't say I thought you'd be an arrogant prick.
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. " Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that? | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. " I've only ever been banned twice. First one was for calling someone a cunt, no emoji was required. Second ban was for posting while still banned the first time. | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that?" covers most things. | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. " I said something in reply to one of your posts a while ago and meant it as a joke (against me) but forgot the
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that? covers most things."Thanks Kaitlyn. | |||
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"The written word can be taken is so many different ways. I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain. Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't. Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted. I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in. So yes, I am an Emoji user. As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me. One of the oft used reasons I've heard is you have to know me to get me, a stranger wouldn't. I don't think that's necessarily true." I see the point that you're making or trying to make; that emojis are essentially dumbing down the written word and expression of meaning. That readers should apply context to those words and 'use their brains' to actually understand the writers true meaning. I think that you're presuming an awful lot in this. Firstly, that the writer is skilled enough to convey that meaning. Secondly, that the reader is able to take the time to read thoroughly. Finally, that emojis are actually detracting from communication. I think that you're wrong on each of those points. Your assumption is something that has been levelled at each new development of technology, from the radio through to the Internet. I think that you're being idealogical about this and not looking at it practically. Would it be nice if everyone could communicate clearly without them? Probably, do we need them? Yes, yes we do. | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. I've only ever been banned twice. First one was for calling someone a cunt, no emoji was required. Second ban was for posting while still banned the first time." At the risk of not looking serious about the topic, this is hilarious! | |||
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"The written word can be taken is so many different ways. I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain. Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't. Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted. I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in. So yes, I am an Emoji user. As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me. One of the oft used reasons I've heard is you have to know me to get me, a stranger wouldn't. I don't think that's necessarily true. I see the point that you're making or trying to make; that emojis are essentially dumbing down the written word and expression of meaning. That readers should apply context to those words and 'use their brains' to actually understand the writers true meaning. I think that you're presuming an awful lot in this. Firstly, that the writer is skilled enough to convey that meaning. Secondly, that the reader is able to take the time to read thoroughly. Finally, that emojis are actually detracting from communication. I think that you're wrong on each of those points. Your assumption is something that has been levelled at each new development of technology, from the radio through to the Internet. I think that you're being idealogical about this and not looking at it practically. Would it be nice if everyone could communicate clearly without them? Probably, do we need them? Yes, yes we do. " A nicely thought out and written answer, but the part don't have the time to read thoroughly. Well that person can hardly have been said to have read, and is likely to miss a lot.They best read it when they have the time! | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really. Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect. Is that you saying you expected I would be an arrogant prick?
I didn't say I thought you'd be an arrogant prick.
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"The written word can be taken is so many different ways. I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain. Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't. Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted. I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in. So yes, I am an Emoji user. As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me. One of the oft used reasons I've heard is you have to know me to get me, a stranger wouldn't. I don't think that's necessarily true. I see the point that you're making or trying to make; that emojis are essentially dumbing down the written word and expression of meaning. That readers should apply context to those words and 'use their brains' to actually understand the writers true meaning. I think that you're presuming an awful lot in this. Firstly, that the writer is skilled enough to convey that meaning. Secondly, that the reader is able to take the time to read thoroughly. Finally, that emojis are actually detracting from communication. I think that you're wrong on each of those points. Your assumption is something that has been levelled at each new development of technology, from the radio through to the Internet. I think that you're being idealogical about this and not looking at it practically. Would it be nice if everyone could communicate clearly without them? Probably, do we need them? Yes, yes we do. " If the writer is not skilled enough to get their point across do we just leave them there or help them...because sometimes we can see what they are trying to say. Not every technological advancement is without it's pitfalls. | |||
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"it's as if they are pigeon holing human emotion. " That's an interesting statement. | |||
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"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face. If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that? covers most things."Dispense withe rest of the emojis then, and just use that one.....sorted | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?" That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive." Hi,read how the whole conversation goes. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious This is an example of someone who through using his mental powers has arrived at a place where he discerns for himself. "Sorry if i come across cheeky, sarcastic or confused...you will have to guess and work out for yourself..but is that thumb thing on your text not an "emoji" ??? | |||
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"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often. Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis. Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?" Not sure youbare getting it OP. A love letter has context and meaning and directed thought. As previously stated this is a public forum. You may only know a tiny fraction of the people well enough for them to understand context, tone and all the rest of the stuff behind what you write. There may be in jokes that only you and one other person know about and you write for your pleasure.. Not everyone is classically educated, verbose, or has the ability to be sesquipedalian. Very few people have the time to be a modern day Keats or Christopher Hitchens (If you haven't heard of Hitchens look him up on YouTube-incredible orator). Language is a functional skill. The forums would be dead if everyone had to compose lengthy, skilled, witty posts just for your amusement. Nobody would be bothered, and even then, would people's post truly reflect them as individuals? The forum is what it is, people use it to convey what they want, how they want. If they want or need to use emojis get over it. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?
.....ok?
Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear. "In text and e mail etc.. using caps for a full word is considered shouting | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?
.....ok?
Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes." I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming. If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed? | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes. I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming. If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?" Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising. Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued. | |||
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"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence. Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not) I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs. If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words. A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work! Not an art connoisseur then.I'm looking for a female to pose for a portrait, know anyone? If your art work is akin to Rubens I might. " Nice one,I am a good portrait artist...though I don't really need a model...he says kicking himself! | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes. I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming. If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed? Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising. Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued." Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation. | |||
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?
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Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.
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"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar! Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? See....if I'd have put a at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.
It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?
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Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.
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"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight? Or they might report you and get you a ban." You mean it's happened to you too ...
Lets be honest emojis add fun and humour to the boring posts on the forums
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And the ones off the phone keyboard just show as ?? in posts
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes. I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming. If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed? Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising. Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation." You need to reread the conversation she mentioned no medical diagnosis,but a friend said..so I asked a relevant question, and if she took no offence why should you? Also this is her private life we are discussing here and she is not involved. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes. I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming. If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed? Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising. Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation." "I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?"Here is your second reply, for clarity. Firstly you replied to the autism comment in a club manner, in your second reply you asked if she had been diagnosed by a doctor. I repeat, that's pretty patronising. If someone told you they had cancer, would you say the same thing? Even conversationally it was between two intelligent adults. Her comment was a reply to your initial OP, did you think it was an admission worth lying about. Again, point proven. Your articulation was sub standard if it could be misconstrued by anyone else. | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes. I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming. If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed? Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising. Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation.I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
Here is your second reply, for clarity. Firstly you replied to the autism comment in a club manner, in your second reply you asked if she had been diagnosed by a doctor. I repeat, that's pretty patronising. If someone told you they had cancer, would you say the same thing? Even conversationally it was between two intelligent adults. Her comment was a reply to your initial OP, did you think it was an admission worth lying about. Again, point proven. Your articulation was sub standard if it could be misconstrued by anyone else."Its because she said "To break through the autism, as a friend puts it," The "as a friend puts it" can be read as a comment on the phrasing to break through which it was or equally it could be a comment on the autism ie her friend calls her difficulty autism. So his interpretation isnt that unusual given the large number of people who joking use the term autism (smilar to how ocd is used) and the very small number with autism. Bur yes he has all the tact of a bull in a china shop following that | |||
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"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes. I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming. If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed? Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising. Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation.I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment. It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust? I don't know what you mean Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?
Here is your second reply, for clarity. Firstly you replied to the autism comment in a club manner, in your second reply you asked if she had been diagnosed by a doctor. I repeat, that's pretty patronising. If someone told you they had cancer, would you say the same thing? Even conversationally it was between two intelligent adults. Her comment was a reply to your initial OP, did you think it was an admission worth lying about. Again, point proven. Your articulation was sub standard if it could be misconstrued by anyone else."I will leave my defence to others, have a nice day! | |||
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