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"Struggling with the truth? As in lying?" Yep | |||
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"It would depend. Some things are best left to work through their natural course for the lesson to be learned." I kinda was thinking that, but it might be a repetitive thing.... | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view" But you know when ppl are likely to be hurt by it in the future? | |||
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"I think it depends on your dynamic. If you are good friends, they may be mad at you but will see it with good intentions eventually" My friends situation is internet based so friends are only ever "friends" but the person I believe is good apparently, but just the lies might be awful.... | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view But you know when ppl are likely to be hurt by it in the future? " If it's abuse then I'd step in, and have. Otherwise, I stay out and be there to help after. The messenger always gets shot. | |||
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"I think it depends on your dynamic. If you are good friends, they may be mad at you but will see it with good intentions eventually My friends situation is internet based so friends are only ever "friends" but the person I believe is good apparently, but just the lies might be awful.... " Stay out. Internet stuff is too complex to get a true reading. Some of the lies I have seen spun beggar belief but how to prove it? | |||
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"I think it would depend on your relationship with them and obviously the person themself. If they are lying to protect themselves in some way then that is different to lying in order to deceive. Also they may have gotten into a situation where they have told so many lies they can see no way out. If it was a friend of mine then I would speak to them and try and understand their reasons and also discuss the implications of what they are doing to others. I would make it clear that the fact they are lying was known. " That's what my friend said | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view But you know when ppl are likely to be hurt by it in the future? " Yes it happens all the time. I'm just not sure how far our responsibility extends in preventing that hurt. What if for instance,your intervention leads to hurt but for a different reason? | |||
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"I think it depends on your dynamic. If you are good friends, they may be mad at you but will see it with good intentions eventually My friends situation is internet based so friends are only ever "friends" but the person I believe is good apparently, but just the lies might be awful.... Stay out. Internet stuff is too complex to get a true reading. Some of the lies I have seen spun beggar belief but how to prove it?" Does anything need proving though? | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view But you know when ppl are likely to be hurt by it in the future? Yes it happens all the time. I'm just not sure how far our responsibility extends in preventing that hurt. What if for instance,your intervention leads to hurt but for a different reason?" I'm sure there'll be hurt if my friend intervenes, but surely you go for the lesser hurt and to end the said deception? | |||
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"Thank fuck this is a late night post, it'll sink quickly..... " Depends on the lie | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view But you know when ppl are likely to be hurt by it in the future? Yes it happens all the time. I'm just not sure how far our responsibility extends in preventing that hurt. What if for instance,your intervention leads to hurt but for a different reason?" I don't think my friend feels responsible, but it's possible they've been deceived themselves, and in a rather personal and manipulative way....? | |||
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"I think it depends on your dynamic. If you are good friends, they may be mad at you but will see it with good intentions eventually My friends situation is internet based so friends are only ever "friends" but the person I believe is good apparently, but just the lies might be awful.... Stay out. Internet stuff is too complex to get a true reading. Some of the lies I have seen spun beggar belief but how to prove it? Does anything need proving though? " Your intentions may be good but may not be seen in that light. You become perceived as the storytelling liar. | |||
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"I think it depends on your dynamic. If you are good friends, they may be mad at you but will see it with good intentions eventually My friends situation is internet based so friends are only ever "friends" but the person I believe is good apparently, but just the lies might be awful.... " That kind of truth probably needs to come from someone close to them, if it's obviously a lie and they keep doing it and you're affected then calling it out or naming the behaviour can help. If it isn't directly affecting you...well I'd probably leave it alone. Some people seem to have to learn things the hard way or not at all. | |||
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"Thank fuck this is a late night post, it'll sink quickly..... Depends on the lie" Stop giving me depends lol, give me some answers???? .....please | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view But you know when ppl are likely to be hurt by it in the future? Yes it happens all the time. I'm just not sure how far our responsibility extends in preventing that hurt. What if for instance,your intervention leads to hurt but for a different reason? I'm sure there'll be hurt if my friend intervenes, but surely you go for the lesser hurt and to end the said deception? " Who is your friend to decide what will hurt another person more or less? | |||
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"I think it depends on your dynamic. If you are good friends, they may be mad at you but will see it with good intentions eventually My friends situation is internet based so friends are only ever "friends" but the person I believe is good apparently, but just the lies might be awful.... Stay out. Internet stuff is too complex to get a true reading. Some of the lies I have seen spun beggar belief but how to prove it? Does anything need proving though? Your intentions may be good but may not be seen in that light. You become perceived as the storytelling liar. " My friend isn't bothered how they're viewed | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view But you know when ppl are likely to be hurt by it in the future? Yes it happens all the time. I'm just not sure how far our responsibility extends in preventing that hurt. What if for instance,your intervention leads to hurt but for a different reason? I don't think my friend feels responsible, but it's possible they've been deceived themselves, and in a rather personal and manipulative way....? " Then your friend needs to deal with his or her situation as it directly affects them. | |||
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"I think it depends on your dynamic. If you are good friends, they may be mad at you but will see it with good intentions eventually My friends situation is internet based so friends are only ever "friends" but the person I believe is good apparently, but just the lies might be awful.... That kind of truth probably needs to come from someone close to them, if it's obviously a lie and they keep doing it and you're affected then calling it out or naming the behaviour can help. If it isn't directly affecting you...well I'd probably leave it alone. Some people seem to have to learn things the hard way or not at all." I think this might t be a case of a person never learning and moving from on person to the next to fill the hole left by the last.... | |||
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"It would depend on my relationship with the person and how tactfully I thought I could handle it. If it was something causing major problems then I would be more likely to be. Ultimately it is still for the other person to decide how they progress, once discussed and I would only speak with them if I was sure that they would still feel free to pursue things as they chose to. " Thanks xx | |||
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"Depends on the situation. I'm pretty blunt so if I think something's weird or hurtful I'll generally say it. Sometimes it hard to articulate though if you're being strung along. If it affects others I'd most likely do something about it. Truth will always out eventually. " Tru dat | |||
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"As this is vauge as vauge can be its impossible to say. I mean you could be describing a Nigerian scammer or a teenager with an Instagram account its so broad" Agreed, without specifics or greater understanding of the situation it very difficult to give advice beyond the broadest of generalities. Personally though if it is a 'friend' and other people and you're not directly involved in the situation, then you'd better make sure that you grasp the situation fully. Jumping in without the full facts to 'put someone right' is presumptuous at best. | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps " Have you suddenly turned into me | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me " Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together " Made me laugh that did | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together " explore my finger | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together Made me laugh that did " Wonder why | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together explore my finger " Hahaha we so need a couples profile with that name | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together explore my finger Hahaha we so need a couples profile with that name " we cant like u said never seen together | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together explore my finger Hahaha we so need a couples profile with that name we cant like u said never seen together " You’re on the ball today. It’s coz I’ve only had one tea. Give me half hour I’ll be my normal delightful self | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together explore my finger Hahaha we so need a couples profile with that name we cant like u said never seen together " So your mum never left that wig in your car after all and what I found in your......ahhh now everything is starting to make sense LJ | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together explore my finger Hahaha we so need a couples profile with that name we cant like u said never seen together You’re on the ball today. It’s coz I’ve only had one tea. Give me half hour I’ll be my normal delightful self " iv not touched em yet | |||
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"I don’t even understand the question. So I’d say no. Or maybe yes. Hope that helps Have you suddenly turned into me Sssshhhhh we are the same person. We are never seen together explore my finger Hahaha we so need a couples profile with that name we cant like u said never seen together So your mum never left that wig in your car after all and what I found in your......ahhh now everything is starting to make sense LJ" no that was mothers but shes at home watching a young fitty shower | |||
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"I think it depends very much on the situation. I'm a huge believer in staying out of other people's business unless I'm pretty sure some sort of abuse is going on. Truth is a funny old thing and can alter when viewed from someone else's point of view" I like this but if this a really good friend then I may have a word. | |||
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"Having been at the receiving end of deception by someone I invested 3 years of my life in, I would always appreciate the heads up. Yes it could look like you're trying to cause trouble, but not everyone is well equipped with a good bullshit radar. " he's asking should he tell his friend who's doing the lying not the people being lied to. Which i dont get | |||
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"Having been at the receiving end of deception by someone I invested 3 years of my life in, I would always appreciate the heads up. Yes it could look like you're trying to cause trouble, but not everyone is well equipped with a good bullshit radar. he's asking should he tell his friend who's doing the lying not the people being lied to. Which i dont get " Oh yeah! How very odd... | |||
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"Having been at the receiving end of deception by someone I invested 3 years of my life in, I would always appreciate the heads up. Yes it could look like you're trying to cause trouble, but not everyone is well equipped with a good bullshit radar. he's asking should he tell his friend who's doing the lying not the people being lied to. Which i dont get " Me neither. Tell them what? Don’t lie? Will they take any notice? If it doesn’t affect me I’d steer clear. | |||
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"Lies O lies. The vain of our lives. Some people do it to protect themselves and others which really doesn’t work Like why not just tell the truth !! After all this is fab and we are all respectful folk who tell the truth. Aren’t we!?!!!" Lol vain is the right word, I think a few ppl think this post is about them pmsl | |||
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"Lies O lies. The vain of our lives. Some people do it to protect themselves and others which really doesn’t work Like why not just tell the truth !! After all this is fab and we are all respectful folk who tell the truth. Aren’t we!?!!! Lol vain is the right word, I think a few ppl think this post is about them pmsl " If it helps i think its made up | |||
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"Lies O lies. The vain of our lives. Some people do it to protect themselves and others which really doesn’t work Like why not just tell the truth !! After all this is fab and we are all respectful folk who tell the truth. Aren’t we!?!!! Lol vain is the right word, I think a few ppl think this post is about them pmsl If it helps i think its made up " That's because you don't like me, but that's fine too | |||
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"Having been at the receiving end of deception by someone I invested 3 years of my life in, I would always appreciate the heads up. Yes it could look like you're trying to cause trouble, but not everyone is well equipped with a good bullshit radar. he's asking should he tell his friend who's doing the lying not the people being lied to. Which i dont get Oh yeah! How very odd... " That's why I thought it would smack of presumption. | |||
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"Lies O lies. The vain of our lives. Some people do it to protect themselves and others which really doesn’t work Like why not just tell the truth !! After all this is fab and we are all respectful folk who tell the truth. Aren’t we!?!!! Lol vain is the right word, I think a few ppl think this post is about them pmsl " Or is that what you want people to think? I think ppl should maybe grow up | |||
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"If it is impacting you directly then confronting it could be the right thing to do. If it is impacting someone else and they are not confronting it I wouldn’t intervene. Playing the rescuer in a game rarely ends well." I wish you wouldn't bend over like that Doc, Alan's awake FFS! | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace " Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread? | |||
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"If it is impacting you directly then confronting it could be the right thing to do. If it is impacting someone else and they are not confronting it I wouldn’t intervene. Playing the rescuer in a game rarely ends well. I wish you wouldn't bend over like that Doc, Alan's awake FFS! " | |||
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"If it is impacting you directly then confronting it could be the right thing to do. If it is impacting someone else and they are not confronting it I wouldn’t intervene. Playing the rescuer in a game rarely ends well. I wish you wouldn't bend over like that Doc, Alan's awake FFS! " | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread?" Only you making it that way from wha I can see.... My friend spoke with her friend and so did I. Its actually quite a serious matter of gaslighting. You'd do well to know more, or ask more (maybe privately) or jump to less conclusions. There are actually ppl here who know what I'm talking about but we're hardly going to come and out a person on a thread. I was just asking for advice, we got some and dealt with the situation, it's done, but thanks for your wisdom buddy | |||
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"An Irish friend gave me a really good piece of advice. “In life you find out what is your business and you feckin mind it”!! It wasn’t meant in an offensive way and the same applies here. I try my best to live by theses words. LJ" Love that. Me too. Shame everyone else doesn’t | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace " So what was the point of the thread? To indirectly let someone know that you know they are lying? It's a terribly convoluted and unnecessarily public way of doing so. | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace So what was the point of the thread? To indirectly let someone know that you know they are lying? It's a terribly convoluted and unnecessarily public way of doing so. " I was asking for advice, see the question? | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread? Only you making it that way from wha I can see.... My friend spoke with her friend and so did I. Its actually quite a serious matter of gaslighting. You'd do well to know more, or ask more (maybe privately) or jump to less conclusions. There are actually ppl here who know what I'm talking about but we're hardly going to come and out a person on a thread. I was just asking for advice, we got some and dealt with the situation, it's done, but thanks for your wisdom buddy " Ermm ok, so the thread is to let them know that you know and most ppl know.......bit shitty way of going about it.... | |||
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"I've read this whole thread and I'm none the wiser what it's about really, I'll try again after coffee " Pmsl, me either with some of the replies..... | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread? Only you making it that way from wha I can see.... My friend spoke with her friend and so did I. Its actually quite a serious matter of gaslighting. You'd do well to know more, or ask more (maybe privately) or jump to less conclusions. There are actually ppl here who know what I'm talking about but we're hardly going to come and out a person on a thread. I was just asking for advice, we got some and dealt with the situation, it's done, but thanks for your wisdom buddy Ermm ok, so the thread is to let them know that you know and most ppl know.......bit shitty way of going about it.... " Noooooo, Jesus...... | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace So what was the point of the thread? To indirectly let someone know that you know they are lying? It's a terribly convoluted and unnecessarily public way of doing so. I was asking for advice, see the question? " How can anyone give advice on that question? It’s too vague. Either give all the details of the situation or don’t bother. I’ve seen these types of threads before. To me this looks like it’s indirectly trying to have a go at someone on here or try and make them look a twat. | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread? Only you making it that way from wha I can see.... My friend spoke with her friend and so did I. Its actually quite a serious matter of gaslighting. You'd do well to know more, or ask more (maybe privately) or jump to less conclusions. There are actually ppl here who know what I'm talking about but we're hardly going to come and out a person on a thread. I was just asking for advice, we got some and dealt with the situation, it's done, but thanks for your wisdom buddy " Oh, if it was Fab related I would tell my friends to cut all contact with the truth bender. | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread? Only you making it that way from wha I can see.... My friend spoke with her friend and so did I. Its actually quite a serious matter of gaslighting. You'd do well to know more, or ask more (maybe privately) or jump to less conclusions. There are actually ppl here who know what I'm talking about but we're hardly going to come and out a person on a thread. I was just asking for advice, we got some and dealt with the situation, it's done, but thanks for your wisdom buddy " So this is a thread about somone(s) on fab? Well that made it super creepy. The "message for more info" is even worse your basicaly just trying to freak this person out by claiming you and others know whatever it is your claiming about them and spreading it around | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace So what was the point of the thread? To indirectly let someone know that you know they are lying? It's a terribly convoluted and unnecessarily public way of doing so. I was asking for advice, see the question? How can anyone give advice on that question? It’s too vague. Either give all the details of the situation or don’t bother. I’ve seen these types of threads before. To me this looks like it’s indirectly trying to have a go at someone on here or try and make them look a twat. " And we need names. | |||
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"I've read this whole thread and I'm none the wiser what it's about really, I'll try again after coffee Pmsl, me either with some of the replies..... " Right, you need to clarify what's going on. | |||
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"So, just to clarify, my friend wanted to speak to the person, so did I, we were worried about other ppl getting taken in and fucked over like we had been, but we just needed some encouragement to actually do it, hence asking for advice. Nothing sinister, just advice, and we dealt with the matter privately and successfully. Thanks t thaw who contributed positively - THE END - Thread is yours now if you'd like to turn it into something it's not, fill your boots.... " To those * | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread? Only you making it that way from wha I can see.... My friend spoke with her friend and so did I. Its actually quite a serious matter of gaslighting. You'd do well to know more, or ask more (maybe privately) or jump to less conclusions. There are actually ppl here who know what I'm talking about but we're hardly going to come and out a person on a thread. I was just asking for advice, we got some and dealt with the situation, it's done, but thanks for your wisdom buddy So this is a thread about somone(s) on fab? Well that made it super creepy. The "message for more info" is even worse your basicaly just trying to freak this person out by claiming you and others know whatever it is your claiming about them and spreading it around" That's how it generally works. Not the first time, won't be the last Drama llamas | |||
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"OP your choice of words like * well they,ll know now* * some ppl know what's going on* wtf.... seriously X cmon if it's about you then confront said person in private.....if not stop with the baiting...." Done my lovely, chill out xx | |||
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"I’m confused as fuck You mentioned gaslighting, lying & more than one person involved...." I'm glad it's not just me | |||
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"Never easy with something like this.. I think you just have to do what feels right for you looking in.. And depends how close you are to these people. As people have said the messenger often does get shot but so what... If you believe it is wrong what's happening and from how you describe the situation it doesn't sound like your being interfering... Just concerned and worried. Trust your gut feeling and do what you think is right and if it all goes tits up at least you can say you tried for the right reasons... Hugs x" | |||
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"I'm, sure someone mentioned something about the messenger at the start of this thread.... Nvm.... My friend and a few of their friends know I guess, and maybe the person knows too now... Who knows....? Peace Oh so this is a weird fab sniping thread? Only you making it that way from wha I can see.... My friend spoke with her friend and so did I. Its actually quite a serious matter of gaslighting. You'd do well to know more, or ask more (maybe privately) or jump to less conclusions. There are actually ppl here who know what I'm talking about but we're hardly going to come and out a person on a thread. I was just asking for advice, we got some and dealt with the situation, it's done, but thanks for your wisdom buddy So this is a thread about somone(s) on fab? Well that made it super creepy. The "message for more info" is even worse your basicaly just trying to freak this person out by claiming you and others know whatever it is your claiming about them and spreading it around" You must be right mate Or..... Maybe the issue has been dealt with now as I've stated repeatedly. The person knows because we spoke with them directly after seeking advice, everyone else important to it knows, job done really.... Carry on if you've nothing better to do though, but don't let a post from me spoil your day my lovely | |||
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"So, just to clarify, my friend wanted to speak to the person, so did I, we were worried about other ppl getting taken in and fucked over like we had been, but we just needed some encouragement to actually do it, hence asking for advice. Nothing sinister, just advice, and we dealt with the matter privately and successfully. Thanks t thaw who contributed positively - THE END - Thread is yours now if you'd like to turn it into something it's not, fill your boots.... " Maybe that could have been done in private rather than on the forum as it is about someone on here | |||
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