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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree. |
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"I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree."
Why do you agree? Do you blame doctors? Do you think it has anything to to with time or resource constraints? Patients expectations or knowledge? Do you think it’s actually true? What sort of doctor was saying that? |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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I think doctors give antibiotics too readily at times. The advert is directed at patients not to ask for them and that’s fine but it appears to me that they are offered too readily by doctors rather than us asking for them.
There are time constraints during appointments so it’s never going to be an easy task. |
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By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago
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I totally agree. The amount of people I see regularly in my job who have been through their gp service for repeat prescriptions without seeing a doctor for years. No alternative treatments ever a possibility unless the patient requests that appointment. I think duty of care lies with the doctor.
I have friends who work in healthcare though and I know how overstretched that is, certainly in my area with routine appointments being 3 weeks wait and frustrated patients causing problems in waiting room surgeries. So I know there are always lots of considerations but dishing out medication and fitnotes is not a solution
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Might be different elsewhere but in Scotland I disagree. I know so many people (me included) who had to fight for medication, painkillers etc. They aren’t keen on giving out anything they really don’t need too. It can take a few days to get an appointment but my appointments (and everyone else’s) last about 10 minutes or so. I’ve never been rushed out the doctors room. Even if I go in with just one issue, the doctor has my notes up on the screen and will make sure nothing else is bothering me. I went in because I had a urine infection and left being referred to counselling and with guides on better sleep management. |
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"Might be different elsewhere but in Scotland I disagree. I know so many people (me included) who had to fight for medication, painkillers etc. They aren’t keen on giving out anything they really don’t need too. It can take a few days to get an appointment but my appointments (and everyone else’s) last about 10 minutes or so. I’ve never been rushed out the doctors room. Even if I go in with just one issue, the doctor has my notes up on the screen and will make sure nothing else is bothering me. I went in because I had a urine infection and left being referred to counselling and with guides on better sleep management. "
I'm in Scotland too and agree. Maybe it's because our scripts are free? There's been so much research done in recent years about the prevalence of addiction to prescription medication that GP are quite strict now on prescribing opiates x |
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"Might be different elsewhere but in Scotland I disagree. I know so many people (me included) who had to fight for medication, painkillers etc. They aren’t keen on giving out anything they really don’t need too. It can take a few days to get an appointment but my appointments (and everyone else’s) last about 10 minutes or so. I’ve never been rushed out the doctors room. Even if I go in with just one issue, the doctor has my notes up on the screen and will make sure nothing else is bothering me. I went in because I had a urine infection and left being referred to counselling and with guides on better sleep management. "
Maybe it's area dependent. My GP is always busy, the appointments seem rushed and after personally spending a year and half being fobbed off with various anti biotics (which incidentally caused me much worse issues than my actual problem and have now left me with life-long side effects) I was finally referred to a specialist who ended up filing an official complaint against my GP for not sending me sooner. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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I don’t have any complaints about the service I receive at my doctors. My criticism is more about generally how they appear to give prescriptions and sick notes so freely. The NHS has been incredible for me. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree.
Why do you agree? Do you blame doctors? Do you think it has anything to to with time or resource constraints? Patients expectations or knowledge? Do you think it’s actually true? What sort of doctor was saying that? "
I dont blame them, but I agree that they could do abit more, he was also a doctor but in a higher position. |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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Yes and no.
Oversubscription at surgeries, time restraints, lack of actual resources (financial and medicine accessibility, junior doctors stepping in to ease caseloads, reduction in referal service options etc) all add to the pressure of prescribing correct medicine etc. Not that taking the easy route is forgiveable etc. I'm not sure it's area dependent, more the actual doctor. |
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I think a lot of people would kick up a fuss if they didnt get the tablets they are used to getting. When other options are suggested people can get quite panic stricken at change and just want the meds. |
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I work with GPs as part of my job. Average appoint time is 6/7 minutes 10 maximum. Most practices are short of GPs therefore severely understaffed. They don’t have time to carry out all the necessary checks during your appointment and will often refer you to someone else in the practice for further appointments.
Despite what most think a GPs day doesn’t end when the surgery session ends... I’m trying to encourage more of them to employ pharmacists to do follow up medication reviews but that takes time too. There is no easy fix! It’s party due to the way the NHS works and giving a ‘one size fits all’ that now clearly doesn’t fit all. Medications are hellish expensive these days..... if you’re a patient on a post stroke medication your looking at £50 a month!!!
Antibiotics have been abused but it’s only many years later that we now find that they are not working on the new strains of bacteria hence the reduction in prescribing only where necessary, having said that they are still necessary in some cases.
Both Scotland and wales have no script charges but also have a very tight prescribing formulary.
I stand firm that we should all pay a consultation fee and that prescriptions should show the value of the drugs prescribed.... you would then realise the costs involved! |
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Disagree!
Getting in to see my GP is horrendous, even getting through on the phone is horrendous, the online booking system is never accessible and the receptionist decides how urgent your condition is. Then when I get an appointment the doctor is very reluctant to prescribe anything plus will only discuss one medical issue and I’ve to re-book for anything else, I’m tempted to move to another GP surgery.
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"I think a lot of people would kick up a fuss if they didnt get the tablets they are used to getting. When other options are suggested people can get quite panic stricken at change and just want the meds. "
Having been on the receiving end of GPs changing medication-including one doctor prescribing something and another taking it away-I can understand why some people panic when their medication is changed or withdrawn. Some of us can't function without it.
Are we supposed to just suck it up and get on with it, without medication? |
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"I think a lot of people would kick up a fuss if they didnt get the tablets they are used to getting. When other options are suggested people can get quite panic stricken at change and just want the meds.
Having been on the receiving end of GPs changing medication-including one doctor prescribing something and another taking it away-I can understand why some people panic when their medication is changed or withdrawn. Some of us can't function without it.
Are we supposed to just suck it up and get on with it, without medication? "
Consistency between doctors is a total pain I get that. One will say one thing and another something totally different I have had that myself. I just feel we are all so medicated nowadays (including myself I have stuff I take every day) without going into all the pill shaming nonsense,it is hard not to just assume we can only rely on pills to help us. When people show me the massive amounts of stuff they take daily it makes me incredibly sad, and just a bit cynical. |
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"I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree.
Why do you agree? Do you blame doctors? Do you think it has anything to to with time or resource constraints? Patients expectations or knowledge? Do you think it’s actually true? What sort of doctor was saying that? I dont blame them, but I agree that they could do abit more, he was also a doctor but in a higher position."
Why do you agree Shag? You often post these threads and then just take a black and white approach to them with none of your thoughts or reasoning behind it.
What higher position was that doctor? What was his speciality?
What do you think about why they do it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think a lot of people would kick up a fuss if they didnt get the tablets they are used to getting. When other options are suggested people can get quite panic stricken at change and just want the meds.
Having been on the receiving end of GPs changing medication-including one doctor prescribing something and another taking it away-I can understand why some people panic when their medication is changed or withdrawn. Some of us can't function without it.
Are we supposed to just suck it up and get on with it, without medication?
Consistency between doctors is a total pain I get that. One will say one thing and another something totally different I have had that myself. I just feel we are all so medicated nowadays (including myself I have stuff I take every day) without going into all the pill shaming nonsense,it is hard not to just assume we can only rely on pills to help us. When people show me the massive amounts of stuff they take daily it makes me incredibly sad, and just a bit cynical. "
Some people have to rely on pills though. Unfortunately, some come with side effects that we have to take other pills for. I hate taking any medication and leave it as long as possible until I give in. I'm not doing myself any favours as the stress on my body makes me worse. I'm going to wait until I hit 75 and then take them as prescribed. By then I won't care if they damage my liver and stomach.
I don't go to my gp with an infection until it's obviously not going away on its own. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Our GP surgery allocates five minutes per patient. I think the doctors just do what they can with what they have available."
Only 5? it takes me 2 minutes to get to the room and sit down. |
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"Our GP surgery allocates five minutes per patient. I think the doctors just do what they can with what they have available.
Only 5? it takes me 2 minutes to get to the room and sit down. "
Yes, they tell you when you book |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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I like the Adam ruins everything series, and I watched the one on heath yesterday.
It was eye opening and had statistics proving that doctors do give medicines too easily, (often because patients get very upset and are insistent that they need them) and how antibiotics are becoming so useless that we might get to a stage where people cannot recover from operations because there's nothing working to treat infection. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think a lot of people would kick up a fuss if they didnt get the tablets they are used to getting. When other options are suggested people can get quite panic stricken at change and just want the meds.
Having been on the receiving end of GPs changing medication-including one doctor prescribing something and another taking it away-I can understand why some people panic when their medication is changed or withdrawn. Some of us can't function without it.
Are we supposed to just suck it up and get on with it, without medication?
Consistency between doctors is a total pain I get that. One will say one thing and another something totally different I have had that myself. I just feel we are all so medicated nowadays (including myself I have stuff I take every day) without going into all the pill shaming nonsense,it is hard not to just assume we can only rely on pills to help us. When people show me the massive amounts of stuff they take daily it makes me incredibly sad, and just a bit cynical.
Some people have to rely on pills though. Unfortunately, some come with side effects that we have to take other pills for. I hate taking any medication and leave it as long as possible until I give in. I'm not doing myself any favours as the stress on my body makes me worse. I'm going to wait until I hit 75 and then take them as prescribed. By then I won't care if they damage my liver and stomach.
I don't go to my gp with an infection until it's obviously not going away on its own. "
I have refused to take the 'next step' in how to treat what I have just because the side effects seemed worse than what it is apparently treating and would involve a cocktail of other things to take. It feels a slippery slope sometimes. Im of a mind to wait until Im half dead and in desperate need too before giving in  |
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"I work with GPs as part of my job. Average appoint time is 6/7 minutes 10 maximum. Most practices are short of GPs therefore severely understaffed. They don’t have time to carry out all the necessary checks during your appointment and will often refer you to someone else in the practice for further appointments.
Despite what most think a GPs day doesn’t end when the surgery session ends... I’m trying to encourage more of them to employ pharmacists to do follow up medication reviews but that takes time too. There is no easy fix! It’s party due to the way the NHS works and giving a ‘one size fits all’ that now clearly doesn’t fit all. Medications are hellish expensive these days..... if you’re a patient on a post stroke medication your looking at £50 a month!!! "
Some cancer medications cost several thousands of pounds per month, e.g. Nexavar (Sorafenib). I took part in a medical trial for this drug although I am pretty sure I got the placebo (dummy) drug.
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No I don’t believe this for the majority, Dolling our antibiotics has been greatly reduced and other therapy’s are now considered for pain management, initially whilst it is common to prescribe meds they are not always given, it’s. Common to change, reduce and omit a usual treatment drug for resistance or dependency
Must always remember without meds chances are a high number of us wouldn’t be here reading this.
Also pressure of available treatments might have long waiting times, all departments in a hospital will be under huge pressure it’s a hell of a lucky find to have one that has oppointments readily available.
Doctors do their very best, they are not specialists in every field but they treat what they can and refer if needed
Plus you actually do have a choice to take the prescription when the doctor says they think this drug might help you can say I don’t want medicine if I can help it, can this be treated by other means, most doctors give out good advice |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree.
Why do you agree? Do you blame doctors? Do you think it has anything to to with time or resource constraints? Patients expectations or knowledge? Do you think it’s actually true? What sort of doctor was saying that? I dont blame them, but I agree that they could do abit more, he was also a doctor but in a higher position.
Why do you agree Shag? You often post these threads and then just take a black and white approach to them with none of your thoughts or reasoning behind it.
What higher position was that doctor? What was his speciality?
What do you think about why they do it?"
I second those questions  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree.
Why do you agree? Do you blame doctors? Do you think it has anything to to with time or resource constraints? Patients expectations or knowledge? Do you think it’s actually true? What sort of doctor was saying that? I dont blame them, but I agree that they could do abit more, he was also a doctor but in a higher position.
Why do you agree Shag? You often post these threads and then just take a black and white approach to them with none of your thoughts or reasoning behind it.
What higher position was that doctor? What was his speciality?
What do you think about why they do it?
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Yes I do and sometimes I dont need to explain more as it have been answered as I agree with what I written in the opening post, the reason I reckon is cos it is easier to give pills then to treat someone, he was a consultant, what you think of it? |
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"I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree.
Why do you agree? Do you blame doctors? Do you think it has anything to to with time or resource constraints? Patients expectations or knowledge? Do you think it’s actually true? What sort of doctor was saying that? I dont blame them, but I agree that they could do abit more, he was also a doctor but in a higher position.
Why do you agree Shag? You often post these threads and then just take a black and white approach to them with none of your thoughts or reasoning behind it.
What higher position was that doctor? What was his speciality?
What do you think about why they do it?
Yes I do and sometimes I dont need to explain more as it have been answered as I agree with what I written in the opening post, the reason I reckon is cos it is easier to give pills then to treat someone, he was a consultant, what you think of it?"
Thanks. Easier to give pills than what? What other options are available to patients?
My reply and thoughts would take hours to write as the question you posed was far to broad to reply succinctly and with clarity.
One consultants opinion doesn’t count for much. What was the programme called? What was it about?
Why do you think that doctor thinks it’s easier to give out pills? Did he give any examples? |
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"I think doctors give antibiotics too readily at times. The advert is directed at patients not to ask for them and that’s fine but it appears to me that they are offered too readily by doctors rather than us asking for them.
There are time constraints during appointments so it’s never going to be an easy task. "
They're definitely being stricter with it. I had loads of doses of antibiotics as a kid for tonsilitis and chest infections but in the past couple of years they haven't given me them for either apart from when I was scoring as a high sepsis risk. |
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By *am62Woman
over a year ago
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It's like Paracetamol, some take them daily, all you do is feed the headache that you haven't actually got. Stop taking them and the headaches dissappear in time. I did and don't suffer half so bad as what I use to. Life's an addiction to most things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I disagree. My doctor never gives antibiotics out unless there's a need. Also those on repeat prescriptions are called for checkups ever year to determine they're still required |
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By *am62Woman
over a year ago
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And paracetamol is not a prescription drug which it should be. Take fifteen sleeping tablets on prescription you will live. Over dose on fifteen paracetamol which you can buy for about 30 pence a packet, and your probably a gonner. |
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In some ways yes and other ways no. Antibiotics have definitely been overused previously but as I mentioned above they seem to be cutting back on that which is good. For other things it seems to depend on the doctor. My nan ended up on a stupid amount of medication at one point and it was only when she was being set up with daily blister packs dye to get dementia that they realised she didn't need half of them. They just hadn't been reviewed.
On the other hand when I moved my new GP refused to prescribe my medication until my cardiologist got involved despite having access to all my previous medical history and knowing I had been prescribed it in hospital, told to continue it indefinitely (unless I want to have a baby) by a consultant who was a national specialist and professor and I had been prescribed it for years by multiple GPs. Her reasoning for it was that I seemed too young to need it  .
I've also had a locum GP say I was refusing treatment for another condition because he tried to prescribe me a medication I had previously taken and been taken back off by my normal GP for medical reasons. So basically it totally depends who you see. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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There has been evidence of late that antibiotics are being rationed or in some Trust areas, are withdrawn completely.
Working around the UK as I did for 2 years before settling down where I am now, Go's readily doled out these drugs plus my usual prescription Meds each month.
Now settled with a regular GP, within a brilliant Surgery too, their policy is not to issue antibiotics at all, on the basis that for many everyday illnesses, it's viral in its structure.
However, if any condition lasts more than 4-6 weeks, it's deemed to have exceeded the viral stage & they will issue a prescription.
With regards to regular Prescription drugs for long term usage, GP's now must review annually, though some shorter time scales are possible. It can be found on your Prescription too, and GP Surgeries must now adhere to this format to ensure patients are getting the best out of the Meds.
My annual Meds review is in mid-March when my GP or his Practice Senior Nurse incorporates an annual physical check too.
People with long term health issues or are over 60, are also closely monitored esp with regards to Meds. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The joys of chronic underfunding.
It's bad with mental health services. Barely any money in it and most GPs dont have specialist training for it, makes sense to prescribe antidepressants from day 1 since the alternative is waiting 2342343 weeks for them to see anyone in secondary care.
I'm on week 19 waiting for a referral to an ADHD clinic good job i'm not suicidal or i'd have probably offed myself waiting |
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I think they do an alright job. GPs aren't consultants and they are also being given incentives to not refer people to consultants (i have an issue with this last one).
Went to my GP after a year of being disabled and told them i'm suicidal, got refered to emergency services right away AND put on meds.
Unfortunately when i need a consultant for the problem that is causing my suicidal tendencies i don't get referred to them. |
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The conservatives have cut the NHS budget in real terms, meaning that the whole health service is under!resourced. I don't think Doctors prescribe too easily but do well, given the situation. Often it's about trials of what may work, as everyone responds differently, multiple problems can cause similar symptoms and services that a Dr could refer patients on to have been cut to the bone ! Eg mental health support. Blame the government that many people vote for.
A Doctors job is tough. |
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"I watched an interesting program about it yesterday where he interviewed a doctor, he said some of them give medicine too easily instead of doing a proper check up of the patient, he said giving them pills is easier than to treat the problem, for example if someone have addictions it is easier to give them pills rather than to treat them properly and he said many of the doctors is not suitable to work as one, whats your view? I agree.
Why do you agree? Do you blame doctors? Do you think it has anything to to with time or resource constraints? Patients expectations or knowledge? Do you think it’s actually true? What sort of doctor was saying that? I dont blame them, but I agree that they could do abit more, he was also a doctor but in a higher position.
Why do you agree Shag? You often post these threads and then just take a black and white approach to them with none of your thoughts or reasoning behind it.
What higher position was that doctor? What was his speciality?
What do you think about why they do it?
Yes I do and sometimes I dont need to explain more as it have been answered as I agree with what I written in the opening post, the reason I reckon is cos it is easier to give pills then to treat someone, he was a consultant, what you think of it?
Thanks. Easier to give pills than what? What other options are available to patients?
My reply and thoughts would take hours to write as the question you posed was far to broad to reply succinctly and with clarity.
One consultants opinion doesn’t count for much. What was the programme called? What was it about?
Why do you think that doctor thinks it’s easier to give out pills? Did he give any examples?"
Yes, it would be easier for the doctor to give pills to treat an addiction he said like drugs, cos the patient then might need more help which then means more resources and more work for them, whilst some doctors earn alot for little work. |
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