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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Big man who threw 'fare dodging student' off train will not face prosecution
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098439/Big-man-threw-fare-dodging-student-train-face-prosecution.html |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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and what goes around comes around....hopefully!!
the 'big man' was just a big bully in my eyes.......and the 'little lad' didnt exactly cover himself in glory with his behaviour either
thankfully we have been spared the saga of a media circus at a trial  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"and what goes around comes around....hopefully!!
the 'big man' was just a big bully in my eyes.......and the 'little lad' didnt exactly cover himself in glory with his behaviour either....
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Are the police etc bullies when they force you to do something you don't want to do?
Part of the problem, people won't accept that they are wrong, or put their hand up and say oops, argue argue... How do you break the stalemate? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well done Big Man....i would have done exactly the same, and kicked the little shit in the bollocks as well! Much of the youth of today have no respect for boundaries and think they are invincible, and a good slap would serve them well...didnt do us any harm when we were kids! |
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By *un_JuiceCouple
over a year ago
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Why people would judge that as bullying is confusing. Just because he was bigger and perhaps more capable of doing what most would have wanted ? He didn't use excessive force, there appeared to be no blows, just removal.
He was calm and probably felt sorry for the worker, an elderly man of 63 and the fact there were children being subjected to the students foul language.
Right decision on this occasion but as much as I'd hate to admit it alot of young uns are carrying these days. Whether they'd be willing to use it so clearly in public and on camera remains to be seen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"That just isnt on, why should he get away with it when other people dont. What he did was wrong."
No valid ticket no right to travel on the train!!!! so the youth had to get off and was refusing the only person breaking any law was the youth for foul and abusive language when asked to leave he didn't so the conductor was right to allow a fellow citizen to remove him without excess force to allow the train to continue and not make everyone else late..... the youth would have known the possible consequences of not having a valid ticket so decided to run the risk.... end of story he got CAUGHT !!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"That just isnt on, why should he get away with it when other people dont. What he did was wrong."
Are we not all part time policemen with a duty to the community to act when the law is unnavailable?
Should scumbags be permitted to break the law and intimidate simply because a man in uniform isn't around to prevent them doing what they hell they like? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Surely not acting is just allowing people who break the law and disregard the rules get away with it. If this happens routinely and people keep getting away with things, what value does law and rules have then?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Indeed, that's how communities and societies worked in the past. Play fair or be taken to hand.
Now, many feel they have to play fair."
Error....
Now, many feel they DON'T have to play fair |
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Would any of you who complain about what this man did have stood by while your elderly relative got abuse from a youth or would you have done something about it????? me thinks you wouldnt.
in my opinion this man did the conductor and other passengers a great service by removing the OFFENDER from the train, he didnt have the right ticket to travel and was therfor breaking the law. Didnt a pm's wife get fined a few years back for not having a train ticket? should the youth be fined or was his removal enough?
Too many people break the law and bluster to get out of doing whats right nowadays and i say fair play to anyone setting the balance back to right |
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Had any of you been sitting on that train at that time..getting more and more annoyed that you were being held up on your journey...
Would you have stopped the "Big man" from "Bullying" the lad?
Or would you have been grateful that someone had the balls to do what you wanted to do?
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Big man who threw 'fare dodging student' off train will not face prosecution
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098439/Big-man-threw-fare-dodging-student-train-face-prosecution.html"
a lot of the people that work for the public transport companies cant be bothered/are too scared/ or just wont tackle these kind of people who fare dodge, given the fact that public transport fares have gone up, why should a knob like that get away with not paying? Good on the bigman...id would have helped him.....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think the end result says it all. People who had all the details and the legal knowledge and deemed it wasn't a prosecutable offence and the man hadn't acted outside he law. Hard to argue with people who have more knowledge than we do really. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Actually, it was proved that the young lad did purchase and pay for a return ticket but was only given one ticket at the station desk.
I would have been trying to stake my claim in the journey if I had paid for it and had somewhere to be.
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Actually, it was proved that the young lad did purchase and pay for a return ticket but was only given one ticket at the station desk.
I would have been trying to stake my claim in the journey if I had paid for it and had somewhere to be.
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well he should have been paying more attention then |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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well he should have been paying more attention then "
Yeh your right there! But imagine getting on the train thinking you'd paid for it. then you find out you haven't got the correct ticket and some big dude throws you out on your ass lol... not great for the kid! xx |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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well he should have been paying more attention then
Yeh your right there! But imagine getting on the train thinking you'd paid for it. then you find out you haven't got the correct ticket and some big dude throws you out on your ass lol... not great for the kid! xx"
a learning curve me thinks! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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well he should have been paying more attention then
Yeh your right there! But imagine getting on the train thinking you'd paid for it. then you find out you haven't got the correct ticket and some big dude throws you out on your ass lol... not great for the kid! xxa learning curve me thinks! "
Oh I reckon he'll be checking to see if he's got the right ticket next time haha xx |
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"That just isnt on, why should he get away with it when other people dont. What he did was wrong.
Are we not all part time policemen with a duty to the community to act when the law is unnavailable?
Should scumbags be permitted to break the law and intimidate simply because a man in uniform isn't around to prevent them doing what they hell they like?"
when labour were in power some years ago jack straw actively encouraged members of the public to get in there to help the police to do the job!,but not many did because of the consequences like the big man found,plus you are not insured to do the law enforcers job,imagine if you got injured trying to help enforce the law and spent weeks or months off work resulting from injery recieved,who would pay your wages?. |
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I have watched the footage of this incident on tv and would like to say that whether he had bought a ticket or not shouting and swearing and behaving in a threatening way towards the conductor isnt exactly gonna make him champion your cause. Maybe if the young man in question has been calm and polite maybe the conductor would have taken pity on him. Who knows?
That said if my son behaved that way and got trown off then i would say it was his own fault for being rude. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have watched the footage of this incident on tv and would like to say that whether he had bought a ticket or not shouting and swearing and behaving in a threatening way towards the conductor isnt exactly gonna make him champion your cause. Maybe if the young man in question has been calm and polite maybe the conductor would have taken pity on him. Who knows?
That said if my son behaved that way and got trown off then i would say it was his own fault for being rude."
refreshing to read, because a lot of parents would automatically take their offsprins side in any argument (until doors are closed, then beat them lol) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's wonderful to know that there are still people out there with common sense and are aware of what is the difference between right and wrong. Not hiding behind the' it was their fault ' crowd . |
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If you view the footage you will see that after 'the big man' forcibly removes him from the train he gets a round of applause from the other passengers - would they have applauded him if they felt he behaved in an unjustified manner?
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm willing to bet none of them knew they were being filmed would probably have played out a little differently if they were aware ! Also we only see it from a certain point, who knows what was said before the camera went on? None of them came across well and it seems they all thought they were in the right. It was a right royal fuck up and the powers that be must be only too glad to brush it under the carpet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well done Big Man....i would have done exactly the same, and kicked the little shit in the bollocks as well! Much of the youth of today have no respect for boundaries and think they are invincible, and a good slap would serve them well...didnt do us any harm when we were kids!"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well done Big Man....i would have done exactly the same, and kicked the little shit in the bollocks as well! Much of the youth of today have no respect for boundaries and think they are invincible, and a good slap would serve them well...didnt do us any harm when we were kids!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm willing to bet none of them knew they were being filmed would probably have played out a little differently if they were aware ! Also we only see it from a certain point, who knows what was said before the camera went on? None of them came across well and it seems they all thought they were in the right. It was a right royal fuck up and the powers that be must be only too glad to brush it under the carpet"
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