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over a year ago
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
Not if you’ve got your fingers crossed. Hope this helps in your research X |
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?
Not if you’ve got your fingers crossed. Hope this helps in your research X"
Is that the same for anal fingering? I’d have thought it makes it even more extreme  |
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Truthfully at a club 4 gems 3 guys one of the guys was bi and wanted me to close my eyes and guys who out of 5 goes who was sucking me off.
I declined
Second occasion speaking on a bed with gem and males friends again in a club
Lots of people in there, next thing hand on my erect cock thought “ that’s pleasant “ looked down was a guys hand. I declined no offence taken.
Some of us just can’t |
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over a year ago
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Sounds like you have given it a lot of thought OP, then checked out lots of guys and / or tv's to see how many straight men have been sucked off by tv's, then felt the need to post about it.
Have you seen a hot tv, thought "yes, I can do her" and then came here to see someone say "Its ok, being blown by a t isn't bi at all, she's wearing lipstick so it doesn't count"
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over a year ago
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Always difficult with labels, 99.5 per cent of sex i have is straight and generally class myself as straight. However I have given and received BJ's in mmf. Have bicurious on profile. But generally straight. Sexuality is a spectrum, which we move up and down. If a man classes himself as straight on fab, what's the problem. Does having a cigar at Xmas make you a smoker? Happy swinging |
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
But you're talking about them getting a blow job, not giving one ? |
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
Why have you tried it? |
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?
Why have you tried it?"
I've always found it's the tgirls who give the best blow jobs. If he hasn't tried it then he should, all in the name of research then he can deny it's gay to himself after.
My view, if it makes you shoot your load & it's legal, give it a go, to hell with the label.
Ps, you are gorgeous x x x. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
Pmsl |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t like labels much. But if a male sucks a cock of another male or vice versa. I’m sorry but that is not straight. "
Oops better add the “in my opinion” bit before I get hounded. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t like labels much. But if a male sucks a cock of another male or vice versa. I’m sorry but that is not straight.
Oops better add the “in my opinion” bit before I get hounded. "
And in my opinion, if you do it, you should own it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t like labels much. But if a male sucks a cock of another male or vice versa. I’m sorry but that is not straight.
Oops better add the “in my opinion” bit before I get hounded.
And in my opinion, if you do it, you should own it!"
Oh I do . And I’m fab straight btw |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t like labels much. But if a male sucks a cock of another male or vice versa. I’m sorry but that is not straight.
Oops better add the “in my opinion” bit before I get hounded.
And in my opinion, if you do it, you should own it!
Oh I do . And I’m fab straight btw "
Spaghetti Lesbian? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t like labels much. But if a male sucks a cock of another male or vice versa. I’m sorry but that is not straight.
Oops better add the “in my opinion” bit before I get hounded.
And in my opinion, if you do it, you should own it!
Oh I do . And I’m fab straight btw
Spaghetti Lesbian? "
Haha yep that’s me  |
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
They do it knowing someone will start a thread about it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like to blow and be blown but as I don't do anal I call myself straight or curious"
That’s kind of how I see things , though on one occasion I did give anal to a gorgeous trans girl |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
Why do you assume everyone who meets a Tgirl sucks cock and receives anal? And even if they do, why does that make them Bi?
I have met a Tgirl but never suck cock nor receive anal. What does that make me then? ??
And what about all those guys on one of the other forum posts who enjoy receiving anal from their wife/gf using a strap-on? Does that make them Bi-curious?
Me? Personally I'm attracted to women (sexually and otherwise). I've never had sex with a Tgirl and decided to try. It wasn't a long deep seated yearning hidden for years. Just one day I woke up and the freak in me thought..fuck it, you get so many invites, why not respond and see. It helped that the person I met shared the same kinks as me, but as a submissive (yes I am very Dominant)...so thats why I went ahead.
I'm comfortable with who I am sexually and know given a choice I will always fall for a woman. I see my self as straight, simple as that.
The question is, why is it such a big deal for you whether the person doesn't adjust their profile to a title that you assume is fitting?
Maybe a little bit more 'live and let live' eh? ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The stigma prevents a lot of guys from labelling outside of straight.
Each to their own but is sad that bi women are “unicorns” and guys are considered almost dirty. We’re all just trying to make it in the end  |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"If a man being bi wasn't such a socially unacceptable, horrific thing, they might not feel so bad about it and have to say they're straight. "
*nods*
It often strikes me as weird how a lady so much as touches another ladies breasts and she puts 'bi' on her profile but guys swear theyre straight even after having sex with a guy.
Social acceptance is a funny old thing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a man being bi wasn't such a socially unacceptable, horrific thing, they might not feel so bad about it and have to say they're straight.
*nods*
It often strikes me as weird how a lady so much as touches another ladies breasts and she puts 'bi' on her profile but guys swear theyre straight even after having sex with a guy.
Social acceptance is a funny old thing. "
I think the absolute worst/ hardest thing is admitting it to themselves. 
It's still always reported in the papers as Mr X "admits" to being gay or bi. Like it's a nasty thing to be ashamed of. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We are on a spectrum of sexuality. Many insist on belonging to narrow categories although they clearly okay outside of that. The extent of males having sex with other males is much much more than many want to accept |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What is I turn gay in 20 years time or in the next life, or after life and I just don't yet know? Does that make me gay even though I'm straight? And what if I turned straight again four lifes after that and have a harem?
A lot of ppl say I talk shit, but.... ....i reckon a lot of ppl talk shit.... ....talk sense! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What is I turn gay in 20 years time or in the next life, or after life and I just don't yet know? Does that make me gay even though I'm straight? And what if I turned straight again four lifes after that and have a harem?
A lot of ppl say I talk shit, but.... ....i reckon a lot of ppl talk shit.... ....talk sense! "
You are a member of parliament and I win five pounds.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What is I turn gay in 20 years time or in the next life, or after life and I just don't yet know? Does that make me gay even though I'm straight? And what if I turned straight again four lifes after that and have a harem?
A lot of ppl say I talk shit, but.... ....i reckon a lot of ppl talk shit.... ....talk sense!
You are a member of parliament and I win five pounds.."
Well that makes about as much sense as any of the other shit on this thread, except what I wrote, obv  |
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People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..  |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"If a man being bi wasn't such a socially unacceptable, horrific thing, they might not feel so bad about it and have to say they're straight.
*nods*
It often strikes me as weird how a lady so much as touches another ladies breasts and she puts 'bi' on her profile but guys swear theyre straight even after having sex with a guy.
Social acceptance is a funny old thing.
I think the absolute worst/ hardest thing is admitting it to themselves.
It's still always reported in the papers as Mr X "admits" to being gay or bi. Like it's a nasty thing to be ashamed of. "
Yep. Everyone seems to like the labels when they apply to everyone else, not so much when it's what they consider to be a negative one about themselves. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case.. "
I'm sorry but that's absolute rubbish. No people don't get legally stoned here and it's far more accepted now than it ever was but it's not the all singing all dancing party that you seem to think. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
I'm sorry but that's absolute rubbish. No people don't get legally stoned here and it's far more accepted now than it ever was but it's not the all singing all dancing party that you seem to think. "
You obviously decided not to read a few lines for some reason..
And yes it is, I’ve been to a few... |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
I'm sorry but that's absolute rubbish. No people don't get legally stoned here and it's far more accepted now than it ever was but it's not the all singing all dancing party that you seem to think.
You obviously decided not to read a few lines for some reason..
And yes it is, I’ve been to a few... "
Oh of course! You're obviously right, silly me. I forgot that I'm only living my experience.
Do carry on telling me about how things are great from your perspective... |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
I'm sorry but that's absolute rubbish. No people don't get legally stoned here and it's far more accepted now than it ever was but it's not the all singing all dancing party that you seem to think.
You obviously decided not to read a few lines for some reason..
And yes it is, I’ve been to a few...
Oh of course! You're obviously right, silly me. I forgot that I'm only living my experience.
Do carry on telling me about how things are great from your perspective... "
And there we go... |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case.. "
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted. "
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe..... |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe..... "
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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God ppl make me so angry..... .....but then I'd be getting angry about being angry about ppl being angry about being angry about something nobody shouldn't be angry about in the first place, so peace |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
They're not straight men simple. Just closeted bi/curious. Some need to look at what straight means. It would help a lot on here. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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To answer the OP though - there are various reasons men identify as straight even though they may not be - stigma is one for sure, but one of the biggest reasons is they do so because of a (false in my opinion) perception that it gets round those that won't meet bi men.
What they don't realise is by doing so they are actually missing out on an equally number of people that actively seek them. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"God ppl make me so angry..... .....but then I'd be getting angry about being angry about ppl being angry about being angry about something nobody shouldn't be angry about in the first place, so peace "
And yet...you keep posting...
Curious |
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I think we like labels too much. Life's not always black and white. There's a continuous spectrum of sexuality.
I often wonder how much our sexuality is conditioning and societal rules about what's taboo. What we feel comfortable about can be linked to that. It can also be linked to emotional maturity and empathy in connecting with others and seeing the individual and not the stereotype. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable."
Frowned upon by who? |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who? "
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights? |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?"
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them.. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them.. "
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past. |
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I think there are a lot of deluded men on here who call themselves straight. However it only becomes a problem for me when I see them ranting about men yet have veris from cross dressers and TV. It is very hypocritical, riles me up
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past. "
That’s a ridiculous comparison.. Maybe I, as a straight man feel discriminated against as I’m not welcome to a bi night. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past. "
We went to some bi nights where it still felt like men were afraid to fuck- or do anything- in public areas. Private rooms were busy. It was a strange atmosphere. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
That’s a ridiculous comparison.. Maybe I, as a straight man feel discriminated against as I’m not welcome to a bi night."
I said it was an extreme example but it highlights my point perfectly and as a straight man you'd be perfectly welcome at a bi night so no discrimination there.
My point still stands (and one that you continually choose to ignore) though that if being bi/gay was as acceptable as you say it is then there would be no need for a specified bi night at all. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past. "
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
That’s a ridiculous comparison.. Maybe I, as a straight man feel discriminated against as I’m not welcome to a bi night.
I said it was an extreme example but it highlights my point perfectly and as a straight man you'd be perfectly welcome at a bi night so no discrimination there.
My point still stands (and one that you continually choose to ignore) though that if being bi/gay was as acceptable as you say it is then there would be no need for a specified bi night at all."
There isn’t any need for them, it’s just another successful night for a club like a cinco de mayo night or a fancy dress night or a beach party night..
You’re trying to argue that bi/gay men are only allowed to bi nights and no other nights.. You’re getting very dramatic now |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon "
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
That’s a ridiculous comparison.. Maybe I, as a straight man feel discriminated against as I’m not welcome to a bi night.
I said it was an extreme example but it highlights my point perfectly and as a straight man you'd be perfectly welcome at a bi night so no discrimination there.
My point still stands (and one that you continually choose to ignore) though that if being bi/gay was as acceptable as you say it is then there would be no need for a specified bi night at all.
There isn’t any need for them, it’s just another successful night for a club like a cinco de mayo night or a fancy dress night or a beach party night..
You’re trying to argue that bi/gay men are only allowed to bi nights and no other nights.. You’re getting very dramatic now "
I'm not getting in the slightest bit dramatic and I have NOT said that bi/gay men are only allowed to go to go nights at all (if I have please quote me where I said that) - as a bisexual man I have attended numerous non-bi nights and had a jolly good time.
What I HAVE said is that on a non-bi night bisexual male play is frowned upon both by other customers and in some cases staff/owners (there's one club I know of that specifically prohibits male/male play in it's house rules) - and have used that point to counter your suggestion that bi/gay people are completed accepted here.
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
That’s a ridiculous comparison.. Maybe I, as a straight man feel discriminated against as I’m not welcome to a bi night.
I said it was an extreme example but it highlights my point perfectly and as a straight man you'd be perfectly welcome at a bi night so no discrimination there.
My point still stands (and one that you continually choose to ignore) though that if being bi/gay was as acceptable as you say it is then there would be no need for a specified bi night at all.
There isn’t any need for them, it’s just another successful night for a club like a cinco de mayo night or a fancy dress night or a beach party night..
You’re trying to argue that bi/gay men are only allowed to bi nights and no other nights.. You’re getting very dramatic now
I'm not getting in the slightest bit dramatic and I have NOT said that bi/gay men are only allowed to go to go nights at all (if I have please quote me where I said that) - as a bisexual man I have attended numerous non-bi nights and had a jolly good time.
What I HAVE said is that on a non-bi night bisexual male play is frowned upon both by other customers and in some cases staff/owners (there's one club I know of that specifically prohibits male/male play in it's house rules) - and have used that point to counter your suggestion that bi/gay people are completed accepted here.
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So you agree with me on the first part..
On the second part, you do realise there are ‘straight etiquette’ sign at most gay bars..
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So you agree with me on the first part..
On the second part, you do realise there are ‘straight etiquette’ sign at most gay bars..
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The part I don't agree with you on is your assetion that bi/gay people (especially men) are completely accepted here and I've given just one example that shows they're not.
You can try and turn it around as much as you like but the simple fact of the matter is that until there is complete integration and acceptance of all sexualities across the board and without any level of stigma (and that includes bi/gay men being able to play with each other in clubs at *any* time) then that "complete acceptance" you suggest simply does not exist. |
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So you agree with me on the first part..
On the second part, you do realise there are ‘straight etiquette’ sign at most gay bars..
The part I don't agree with you on is your assetion that bi/gay people (especially men) are completely accepted here and I've given just one example that shows they're not.
You can try and turn it around as much as you like but the simple fact of the matter is that until there is complete integration and acceptance of all sexualities across the board and without any level of stigma (and that includes bi/gay men being able to play with each other in clubs at *any* time) then that "complete acceptance" you suggest simply does not exist."
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over a year ago
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So you agree with me on the first part..
On the second part, you do realise there are ‘straight etiquette’ sign at most gay bars..
The part I don't agree with you on is your assetion that bi/gay people (especially men) are completely accepted here and I've given just one example that shows they're not.
You can try and turn it around as much as you like but the simple fact of the matter is that until there is complete integration and acceptance of all sexualities across the board and without any level of stigma (and that includes bi/gay men being able to play with each other in clubs at *any* time) then that "complete acceptance" you suggest simply does not exist.
Does that also include the taking down of the ‘straight etiquette’ sign in gay bars?"
As I said - "across the board" |
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So you agree with me on the first part..
On the second part, you do realise there are ‘straight etiquette’ sign at most gay bars..
The part I don't agree with you on is your assetion that bi/gay people (especially men) are completely accepted here and I've given just one example that shows they're not.
You can try and turn it around as much as you like but the simple fact of the matter is that until there is complete integration and acceptance of all sexualities across the board and without any level of stigma (and that includes bi/gay men being able to play with each other in clubs at *any* time) then that "complete acceptance" you suggest simply does not exist.
Does that also include the taking down of the ‘straight etiquette’ sign in gay bars?
As I said - "across the board""
So no need for gay bars or gay pride anymore.. |
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So you agree with me on the first part..
On the second part, you do realise there are ‘straight etiquette’ sign at most gay bars..
The part I don't agree with you on is your assetion that bi/gay people (especially men) are completely accepted here and I've given just one example that shows they're not.
You can try and turn it around as much as you like but the simple fact of the matter is that until there is complete integration and acceptance of all sexualities across the board and without any level of stigma (and that includes bi/gay men being able to play with each other in clubs at *any* time) then that "complete acceptance" you suggest simply does not exist.
Does that also include the taking down of the ‘straight etiquette’ sign in gay bars?
As I said - "across the board"
So no need for gay bars or gay pride anymore.. "
Again you're twisting things - and there will always be celebrations of specific events and cultures, likewise bars where likeminded people gather but so long as they also welcome all then there is nothing wrong with that.
Either way though, and to come back to the point, your assertion that gay/bi men are completely accepted and without stigma is very wide of the mark as I have shown with just one example.
However you seem determined to ignore the very relevant points I have made, or twist them to read differently so I don't see the point in continuing this ever decreasing circle |
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So you agree with me on the first part..
On the second part, you do realise there are ‘straight etiquette’ sign at most gay bars..
The part I don't agree with you on is your assetion that bi/gay people (especially men) are completely accepted here and I've given just one example that shows they're not.
You can try and turn it around as much as you like but the simple fact of the matter is that until there is complete integration and acceptance of all sexualities across the board and without any level of stigma (and that includes bi/gay men being able to play with each other in clubs at *any* time) then that "complete acceptance" you suggest simply does not exist.
Does that also include the taking down of the ‘straight etiquette’ sign in gay bars?
As I said - "across the board"
So no need for gay bars or gay pride anymore..
Again you're twisting things - and there will always be celebrations of specific events and cultures, likewise bars where likeminded people gather but so long as they also welcome all then there is nothing wrong with that.
Either way though, and to come back to the point, your assertion that gay/bi men are completely accepted and without stigma is very wide of the mark as I have shown with just one example.
However you seem determined to ignore the very relevant points I have made, or twist them to read differently so I don't see the point in continuing this ever decreasing circle "
I’m not twisting or ignoring anything, if anyone is looking for separation it’s you, maybe that’s what you should be asking yourself... |
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"God ppl make me so angry..... .....but then I'd be getting angry about being angry about ppl being angry about being angry about something nobody shouldn't be angry about in the first place, so peace
And yet...you keep posting...
Curious"
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"I ate a vegan burger once. Am I vegan?
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No, but if you eat beef burgers, you’re not vegan..
You can be whatever you like in the future though...."
Lol that sounded like I wss saying you could have a robotic cock and wings..... ......you know what I mean.... |
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"I ate a vegan burger once. Am I vegan?
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No, but if you eat beef burgers, you’re not vegan..
You can be whatever you like in the future though....
Lol that sounded like I wss saying you could have a robotic cock and wings..... ......you know what I mean.... "
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"I ate a vegan burger once. Am I vegan?
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No, but if you eat beef burgers, you’re not vegan..
You can be whatever you like in the future though....
Lol that sounded like I wss saying you could have a robotic cock and wings..... ......you know what I mean....
Alexa - Engage robocock 2000 and pass me a can of red bull "
If only we could write the future........ |
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"I ate a vegan burger once. Am I vegan?
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No, but if you eat beef burgers, you’re not vegan..
You can be whatever you like in the future though....
Lol that sounded like I wss saying you could have a robotic cock and wings..... ......you know what I mean....
Alexa - Engage robocock 2000 and pass me a can of red bull
If only we could write the future........ "
It's written in the stars apparently, I'm sure someone sang a song about it |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights."
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"I ate a vegan burger once. Am I vegan?
P
No, but if you eat beef burgers, you’re not vegan..
You can be whatever you like in the future though....
Lol that sounded like I wss saying you could have a robotic cock and wings..... ......you know what I mean....
Alexa - Engage robocock 2000 and pass me a can of red bull
If only we could write the future........
It's written in the stars apparently, I'm sure someone sang a song about it "
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?
I wonder if you are bi curious if you check out lots of straight guys to see if they have ever enjoyed sex with men? "
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
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One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile.
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile."
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed. "
Being a bi/gay man is definately not accepted. Kids call each other 'gay' as an insult. 200 men at my work, non are openly gay/bi. 15 women, half are openly gay. Things are changing... slowly. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed. "
Mercifully I've not experienced it directly but then I would not feel comfortable playing bisexually on a non-Bi Night at a club - however I have heard instances of people being told they are disgusting when they have done so, where they've been asked to refrain and as I said further up am aware of one club where bi male play is specifically listed in the house rules as not being allowed - all of which have driven my lack of comfort.
Far from "looking from separation" as was suggested earlier I'm actually looking for quite the opposite where any kind of play (that is safe, sane and consensual) is accepted on any night. And that poster *still* has not explained why the fact it isn't backs up his suggestion that bi and gay men are accepted by all.
The point remains though that there *is* still a stigma around bisexual men for some and anyone suggesting otherwise is wrong. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
Mercifully I've not experienced it directly but then I would not feel comfortable playing bisexually on a non-Bi Night at a club - however I have heard instances of people being told they are disgusting when they have done so, where they've been asked to refrain and as I said further up am aware of one club where bi male play is specifically listed in the house rules as not being allowed - all of which have driven my lack of comfort.
Far from "looking from separation" as was suggested earlier I'm actually looking for quite the opposite where any kind of play (that is safe, sane and consensual) is accepted on any night. And that poster *still* has not explained why the fact it isn't backs up his suggestion that bi and gay men are accepted by all.
The point remains though that there *is* still a stigma around bisexual men for some and anyone suggesting otherwise is wrong."
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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You remind me of an unemployed person on benefits that’s happy they can’t find work.. "
What a ridiculous and baseless comment.
The fact remains you've *still* not explained how bisexual male play not being accepted at a non-bi night in any way backs up your earlier statement that male bisexuality is completely accepted and not stigmatized here - which leads me to conclude that you can't, and therefore I am right in saying your earlier statement is incorrect.
And that really is the last I have to say on the subject because there is no point in debating with those that refuse to answer a very simple and basic point. |
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You remind me of an unemployed person on benefits that’s happy they can’t find work..
What a ridiculous and baseless comment.
The fact remains you've *still* not explained how bisexual male play not being accepted at a non-bi night in any way backs up your earlier statement that male bisexuality is completely accepted and not stigmatized here - which leads me to conclude that you can't, and therefore I am right in saying your earlier statement is incorrect.
And that really is the last I have to say on the subject because there is no point in debating with those that refuse to answer a very simple and basic point."
Everything got answered, you just chose to ignore.. If you want to continue life by putting up imaginary road blocks and then play the blame game we’ll I’ll not convince you otherwise.. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile.
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I hate the word preference these days but surely that’s what it is? I only meet straight men for fun. What’s the problem with that? I have about 3 bi guys as friends on here and I adore them. Hate how people are accused of having some sort of “phobia” just because they have preferences. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile.
I hate the word preference these days but surely that’s what it is? I only meet straight men for fun. What’s the problem with that? I have about 3 bi guys as friends on here and I adore them. Hate how people are accused of having some sort of “phobia” just because they have preferences.
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I get what you're saying.
But in all honesty what is the difference between a straight guy and a bi guy when it's just you and he?
A preference between large and small, a preference for tall guys. Fair enough, there is a difference. I'm not convinced that the same is true here...
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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You remind me of an unemployed person on benefits that’s happy they can’t find work..
What a ridiculous and baseless comment.
The fact remains you've *still* not explained how bisexual male play not being accepted at a non-bi night in any way backs up your earlier statement that male bisexuality is completely accepted and not stigmatized here - which leads me to conclude that you can't, and therefore I am right in saying your earlier statement is incorrect.
And that really is the last I have to say on the subject because there is no point in debating with those that refuse to answer a very simple and basic point.
Everything got answered, you just chose to ignore.. If you want to continue life by putting up imaginary road blocks and then play the blame game we’ll I’ll not convince you otherwise.. "
I ignored nothing and having read back through your posts you've still not explained anywhere why bi male play not being accepted at non-Bi Nights equates to bisexuality being "celebrated" and "socially acceptable".
I'm not putting up imaginary road blocks or blaming anyone either - I fully accept that people have preferences and are entitled to them (and in fact have been quite vociferous on similar threads in defence of those that have them).
Where I disagree with you however is that being bi or gay is as unstigmatised as you suggest, although I *do* agree that it's a lot less so than even 15-20 years ago. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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You remind me of an unemployed person on benefits that’s happy they can’t find work..
What a ridiculous and baseless comment.
The fact remains you've *still* not explained how bisexual male play not being accepted at a non-bi night in any way backs up your earlier statement that male bisexuality is completely accepted and not stigmatized here - which leads me to conclude that you can't, and therefore I am right in saying your earlier statement is incorrect.
And that really is the last I have to say on the subject because there is no point in debating with those that refuse to answer a very simple and basic point.
Everything got answered, you just chose to ignore.. If you want to continue life by putting up imaginary road blocks and then play the blame game we’ll I’ll not convince you otherwise.. "
I'm going to have to jump in here. I appreciate that from a straight man's or casual observers perspective things do look 'great' but there is still a huge stigma attached. I've had abuse from friends, from random people, my own family likened me to an abuser and told me that I was going to hell and wished me an early death.
The ignorance and casual bigotry from the vast majority of people is staggering.
Your dismissal of people's experiences is rather unfortunate. I'm sure that you consider yourself to be an enlightened individual, take my words with the honesty with which they're given and do with that what you will. |
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You remind me of an unemployed person on benefits that’s happy they can’t find work..
What a ridiculous and baseless comment.
The fact remains you've *still* not explained how bisexual male play not being accepted at a non-bi night in any way backs up your earlier statement that male bisexuality is completely accepted and not stigmatized here - which leads me to conclude that you can't, and therefore I am right in saying your earlier statement is incorrect.
And that really is the last I have to say on the subject because there is no point in debating with those that refuse to answer a very simple and basic point.
Everything got answered, you just chose to ignore.. If you want to continue life by putting up imaginary road blocks and then play the blame game we’ll I’ll not convince you otherwise..
I'm going to have to jump in here. I appreciate that from a straight man's or casual observers perspective things do look 'great' but there is still a huge stigma attached. I've had abuse from friends, from random people, my own family likened me to an abuser and told me that I was going to hell and wished me an early death.
The ignorance and casual bigotry from the vast majority of people is staggering.
Your dismissal of people's experiences is rather unfortunate. I'm sure that you consider yourself to be an enlightened individual, take my words with the honesty with which they're given and do with that what you will. "
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile.
I hate the word preference these days but surely that’s what it is? I only meet straight men for fun. What’s the problem with that? I have about 3 bi guys as friends on here and I adore them. Hate how people are accused of having some sort of “phobia” just because they have preferences.
I get what you're saying.
But in all honesty what is the difference between a straight guy and a bi guy when it's just you and he?
A preference between large and small, a preference for tall guys. Fair enough, there is a difference. I'm not convinced that the same is true here...
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Like I said. Just my choice. Absolutely nothing against it at all. I have too many preferences for here I think hence why I meet very few people. Although I think I’m in the minority where this is concerned to be honest as the majority of women (and I do think the majority from reading other threads) love to meet bi guys. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile.
I hate the word preference these days but surely that’s what it is? I only meet straight men for fun. What’s the problem with that? I have about 3 bi guys as friends on here and I adore them. Hate how people are accused of having some sort of “phobia” just because they have preferences.
I get what you're saying.
But in all honesty what is the difference between a straight guy and a bi guy when it's just you and he?
A preference between large and small, a preference for tall guys. Fair enough, there is a difference. I'm not convinced that the same is true here...
Like I said. Just my choice. Absolutely nothing against it at all. I have too many preferences for here I think hence why I meet very few people. Although I think I’m in the minority where this is concerned to be honest as the majority of women (and I do think the majority from reading other threads) love to meet bi guys. "
Not having a go, as I think it's interesting. I presume knowing a man has had sex with another man is a turn off for you, even if its just you and him? |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile.
I hate the word preference these days but surely that’s what it is? I only meet straight men for fun. What’s the problem with that? I have about 3 bi guys as friends on here and I adore them. Hate how people are accused of having some sort of “phobia” just because they have preferences.
I get what you're saying.
But in all honesty what is the difference between a straight guy and a bi guy when it's just you and he?
A preference between large and small, a preference for tall guys. Fair enough, there is a difference. I'm not convinced that the same is true here...
Like I said. Just my choice. Absolutely nothing against it at all. I have too many preferences for here I think hence why I meet very few people. Although I think I’m in the minority where this is concerned to be honest as the majority of women (and I do think the majority from reading other threads) love to meet bi guys.
Not having a go, as I think it's interesting. I presume knowing a man has had sex with another man is a turn off for you, even if its just you and him? "
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic! "
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences |
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences "
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority. |
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority. "
As I said; I'm not pointing fingers.
You're really not in the minority though. |
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority.
As I said; I'm not pointing fingers.
You're really not in the minority though. "
I did a survey a while back which suggested single guys were more likely to get meets if they are bi. |
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over a year ago
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority.
As I said; I'm not pointing fingers.
You're really not in the minority though. "
I must definitely am on here. Just look back at the threads. Watching men play, do you like bi guys etc. Usually just me and a very small minority saying no. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority.
As I said; I'm not pointing fingers.
You're really not in the minority though.
I must definitely am on here. Just look back at the threads. Watching men play, do you like bi guys etc. Usually just me and a very small minority saying no. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority.
As I said; I'm not pointing fingers.
You're really not in the minority though.
I must definitely am on here. Just look back at the threads. Watching men play, do you like bi guys etc. Usually just me and a very small minority saying no. "
Most probably won't publicly say they won't fuck bi men because of the backlash on some threads. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority.
As I said; I'm not pointing fingers.
You're really not in the minority though.
I must definitely am on here. Just look back at the threads. Watching men play, do you like bi guys etc. Usually just me and a very small minority saying no. "
I think that you're not taking into account the many people who don't voice their no. The sheer number of profiles that state they won't meet bi guys, not to mention the people in clubs who voice their 'disapproval'.
It's not my intent here to labour the point, nor to berate you for you preferences, which is entirely your choice and I fully support your or anyone else's. However, I will simply point out that being bi for a man is a huge stigma and you're most definitely not in the minority |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don’t tend to give reasons for any of my preferences. It just causes grief. I’d never say never but it’s one of the first things I look at on a profile. If I actually get past the initial message or pic!
Not to throw accusations or to point fingers but your answers are one of the reasons why guys do hide their sexuality. Ladies unwilling to even consider bi guys on a one on one situation for whatever preferences
Then so be it. Point all you like. Although I fail to see why as I’m certainly in the minority.
As I said; I'm not pointing fingers.
You're really not in the minority though.
I must definitely am on here. Just look back at the threads. Watching men play, do you like bi guys etc. Usually just me and a very small minority saying no.
I think that you're not taking into account the many people who don't voice their no. The sheer number of profiles that state they won't meet bi guys, not to mention the people in clubs who voice their 'disapproval'.
It's not my intent here to labour the point, nor to berate you for you preferences, which is entirely your choice and I fully support your or anyone else's. However, I will simply point out that being bi for a man is a huge stigma and you're most definitely not in the minority "
Fair enough. Never been to a club. And never seen it on a profile either tbf. I don’t have it on mine. I’m bi myself so being bi isn’t an issue at all for me. I just prefer straight men. I get what you’re saying though as my comments on this have created unnecessary grief before so that may be the reason people don’t comment. But like yourself I’m not one to keep my views to myself on certain things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
One very simple, yet telling example, is how many ladies and couples on this site have "no bi guys" in their profile.
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So you're saying a preference that someone has, which is exactly what your statement refers, too is discrimination?
You might like to find out the reasons behind their preferences before stating such a comment and become a bit more informed. 99% have nothing to do with discrimination but other reasons. |
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By *ilkenWoman
over a year ago
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?"
You could be the same for strait men taking a great deal if interest in bi or secret bi men. |
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"What's with the lads who put that their straight on their profile but have veris from Tv's who have sucked them off . . Soon as a cock goes into your mouth you must at least be bi ?
You could be the same for strait men taking a great deal if interest in bi or secret bi men. "
They're not straight , but curious |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In a black or white, yes or no environment, strictly speaking a person would be bi or curious. Unfortunately sexuality is fluid and more complicated than a yes or no answer. |
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"People saying that it’s still not socially accepted is pure bullshit, it’s almost popular now to come out as gay.. A celebrity becomes obselete, there’s a big ‘I’m gay’ announcement, gay pride- prob the biggest celebration of the year worldwide.. so unless you’re from Brunei or Syria or somewhere like that then don’t come out with the bullshit attention seeking ‘not accepted’ ‘taboo’ bullshit because it’s cetainly not the case..
You're very lucky if you live somewhere that being gay or bi is accepted.
I lived in quite a few countries, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe.....
IF being bi or gay is as accepted as you say it is - why, in this apparently "liberated" lifestyle do clubs have specified Bi Nights and on any other night bi male play is frowned upon do you think? If it was accepted then there would be no need for "Bi Nights" at all.
And that is just one example where it is still seen as taboo and socially unacceptable.
Frowned upon by who?
Other people in attendance, in some instances the owners/staff - and regardless if it was accepted at any time why would clubs have specified Bi Nights?
So the owners/staff frown upon so much they host bi nights?? That’s a complete contradiction.. They host them because it’s yet another successful night for them..
Not a contradiction in the slightest and you've twisted what I said completely which was that bi male play is frowned on at a club on a non-Bi Night in most clubs.
If being bi/gay was accepted as you say it is then there would be no need for designated Bi Nights at all!!
To use an extreme example it's the equivalent of having "whites only" seats on buses in the States in the past.
I thought bi nights were like an appreciation of bi people, like BBW nights etc? Not an indication that it's frowned upon
In and of themselves they are exactly as you suggest - but that's not my point, the previous poster believes that being bi/gay is completely accepted and in fact celebrated in this country - my point being that if it was that bi/gay male play would be accepted at a club on *any* night, not just specified Bi Nights.
Fair enough. How does the distain for gay or bi male play manifest itself? I'm not suggesting/insinuating that you're wrong, I've never been to a club so obviously it's not something I've witnessed.
Mercifully I've not experienced it directly but then I would not feel comfortable playing bisexually on a non-Bi Night at a club - however I have heard instances of people being told they are disgusting when they have done so, where they've been asked to refrain and as I said further up am aware of one club where bi male play is specifically listed in the house rules as not being allowed - all of which have driven my lack of comfort.
Far from "looking from separation" as was suggested earlier I'm actually looking for quite the opposite where any kind of play (that is safe, sane and consensual) is accepted on any night. And that poster *still* has not explained why the fact it isn't backs up his suggestion that bi and gay men are accepted by all.
The point remains though that there *is* still a stigma around bisexual men for some and anyone suggesting otherwise is wrong."
Thanks for the insight, GM. I'm glad to hear it's not something you've experienced x |
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"In a black or white, yes or no environment, strictly speaking a person would be bi or curious. Unfortunately sexuality is fluid and more complicated than a yes or no answer. "
Think it's less fluid than some want to try pushing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fuck me; for a supposed broad minded site there are so many narrow minded/ judgemental individuals on here.
People like what they like as long as no one is harmed/ abused/ taken advantage of then who cares. Live and let live |
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