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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I was pretty shocked to see on the news that there are now over 1 million single moms who cant afford the basic things for their baby so there are now baby baby banks where they can get it, whats your view, is britain getting poorer? |
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over a year ago
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Cost of living around Britain, particularly in major cities, is pretty high and getting higher. The living wage has went up again but when it comes to single parents who can either only work part time or who have to pay for child care things are a lot tougher for them. I like the idea of baby banks as it promises some essentials to those who are struggling  |
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over a year ago
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I'm going to throw this out there, it may be recieved negatively but I think what needs to be done is money management lessons.
This is from someone who's husband walked out on her when my baby was 4 weeks old never to be seen again because he couldn't handle the pressure of a newborn. He's never paid a penny towards my boy. Life was hard, really hard. I used to dread Christmas and birthdays but I learnt to manage. We had no luxuries. We ended up in a shitty flat and toys and clothes were obtained second hand.
Now hes 16 through hard work and determination we are financially stable. People say he's spoilt it's because I can spoil him now.
What I will say is I got no help other than tax credits. I worked my arse off. Our entertainment was going to the park etc I didn't go out drinking.
I counted every last penny. |
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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago
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Next thing I suppose they will blame it on brexit!!!
But seriously I’m sure there are thousands of single moms out there who struggle to survive and money management is only good when you have the dam stuff.
It seems if your in the new universal credit system your absolutely buggered unless of course your in your 20’s and live off the state who provide you with unlimited funds to go down the offie every morning and get yourself some Stella , stand outside the shop at 8 in the morning with your hand down your tracksuit bottoms playing snooker with your cock and sipping some nectar as they plan the day ahead!!  . Cunts |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not surprised by this.
I'm a single mum and have struggled working full time with my children for years . Sometimes even two jobs. Despite being relatively well paid, I still find there are times when things are really difficult.
While I've not had to resort to foodbanks etc, I do know what it's like to have nothing to live on til the next salary payment hits and praying there are no unexpected costs. No access to a rainy day fund here because I can't afford to save! It's sad that in one of the wealthiest countries in the world these things are needed. I'm very glad people are kind enough to donate to and run them for people who need them . |
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"I was pretty shocked to see on the news that there are now over 1 million single moms who cant afford the basic things for their baby so there are now baby baby banks where they can get it, whats your view, is britain getting poorer?"
The two child cap benefit rule will have had a detrimental effect adding to the need for these |
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"I'm going to throw this out there, it may be recieved negatively but I think what needs to be done is money management lessons.
This is from someone who's husband walked out on her when my baby was 4 weeks old never to be seen again because he couldn't handle the pressure of a newborn. He's never paid a penny towards my boy. Life was hard, really hard. I used to dread Christmas and birthdays but I learnt to manage. We had no luxuries. We ended up in a shitty flat and toys and clothes were obtained second hand.
Now hes 16 through hard work and determination we are financially stable. People say he's spoilt it's because I can spoil him now.
What I will say is I got no help other than tax credits. I worked my arse off. Our entertainment was going to the park etc I didn't go out drinking.
I counted every last penny. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Single mum 2 kids
Ex pays no maintenance fir 6m a yr cos cms is crap. Bills go up. Cost of everything goes up. Working around child care juggling act.
Dont smoke dont drink dont go out. Cut back is horizontal now.
Totally agree with op.
But its not easier as they get older |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm going to throw this out there, it may be recieved negatively but I think what needs to be done is money management lessons.
This is from someone who's husband walked out on her when my baby was 4 weeks old never to be seen again because he couldn't handle the pressure of a newborn. He's never paid a penny towards my boy. Life was hard, really hard. I used to dread Christmas and birthdays but I learnt to manage. We had no luxuries. We ended up in a shitty flat and toys and clothes were obtained second hand.
Now hes 16 through hard work and determination we are financially stable. People say he's spoilt it's because I can spoil him now.
What I will say is I got no help other than tax credits. I worked my arse off. Our entertainment was going to the park etc I didn't go out drinking.
I counted every last penny. "
Agree with this, some many genuinely need the help, but I have seen many people prioritize want before need and sometimes they can't even differentiate between the 2. Some of these things just make it too easy for people to get a hand out and some milk it, when they don't need to. |
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"I was pretty shocked to see on the news that there are now over 1 million single moms who cant afford the basic things for their baby so there are now baby baby banks where they can get it, whats your view, is britain getting poorer?"
No, the weak have inherited the planet (for now). Do you know what was the downfall of the greek empire? Decadence.
My seniors told me, In the 70s more people cooked homemade food, washed towelled nappies mothers breast fed (free at point of service) grew their own food and passed down toys through generations.
What you will find at these baby banks is about 50% of attendees will own an iphone.
Priorities have been spun on their head and these factors result in perceived poverty. May i add i see a lot of single parents with 2 or 3 kids in shithole houses who insist on spending £700 per child at christmas when they could use that on something more important. Halloween is another occasion getting Americanised and hundreds are wasted on decorations and costumes.
How the blind lead the blind
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm not one to judge and you can't see people's stories from just looking at them. However, when you see people queuing at food banks smoking and playing on their phones there's clearly something wrong.
Nobody will argue that the cost of living is much higher these days but its about priorities.
If you've got no commitments you're free to live your life how you choose as long as you don't rely on others to fund it but if you have children their needs come first without question.
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Single mum here...
I run my own business, have been for 10 years. Last year had to set up a second business to make ends meet, my ex paid very little £150 a month.
I literally work to pay for childcare which is my biggest expense, once bills and food are bought, then any clothing that my daughter needs, I'm left with very little if anything for myself.
So I love the idea of baby banks... I even donate a lot of my daughters clothing that no longer fits. Or give to friends who have had children recently. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I judge the society i live in by the way it treats the most vulnerable.
If we need baby banks something is seriously wrong.
On a positive note I applaud those who donate to them and run them. |
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"I was pretty shocked to see on the news that there are now over 1 million single moms who cant afford the basic things for their baby so there are now baby baby banks where they can get it, whats your view, is britain getting poorer?
No, the weak have inherited the planet (for now). Do you know what was the downfall of the greek empire? Decadence.
My seniors told me, In the 70s more people cooked homemade food, washed towelled nappies mothers breast fed (free at point of service) grew their own food and passed down toys through generations.
What you will find at these baby banks is about 50% of attendees will own an iphone.
Priorities have been spun on their head and these factors result in perceived poverty. May i add i see a lot of single parents with 2 or 3 kids in shithole houses who insist on spending £700 per child at christmas when they could use that on something more important. Halloween is another occasion getting Americanised and hundreds are wasted on decorations and costumes.
How the blind lead the blind
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This a very small minority, this isnt the majority.... People see what they want to sometimes. The minority are out, so you see them smoking, carrying Iphones etc.
I breastfed my daughter until she was 3,I used the new washable nappies. I didn't buy the most expensive pushchair, I bought mothercare own brand. I don't have a TV at home haven't had one for years even before my daughter was born.
My family doesn't give presents at Christmas its about the family and food (Jamaican family quite big) I make edible hampers to give away as gifts, as I can't afford to buy presents that will rarely get used.
Not everyone who is a single mum or a regular at a food bank is livibg beyond there means. |
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Nobody in the UK is truly poor. I've been to enough 3rd world nations and seen what real poverty is like and we are nowhere near it.
It's true that the cost of living is high, and it's hard graft having children and getting by, but as many of the posts, in particular those from single mums point out, it is the difference between want and need.
My heart goes out to those on hard times, but as with everything in life there will be ups and downs and to get through the hard times it comes down to the individuals to sort themselves out. (BTW I'm not blaming anyone here, just saying if you find yourself in trouble whether it's your fault or not, only you can sort it). |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If it means that people truly in need can provide the basics for their children then I'm all for it. It's not the children's fault of the situation they are born into, they should not suffer.
The Government said in 2009 that no child should be living in poverty, hence the arrival of tax credits, yet here we are 10 years later with children in such situations.
However, the pressure on people to work is immense, and between paying for childcare and rising living costs then people aren't seeing much of their earnings.
The increase in NNW is huge this time, which is great for employees. Not so great for employers, and tbh there will soon be a lack of Nurseries because of this! The high ratio of staff to children is more wages to pay, the funding the government give settings for the free places they offer is not enough to cover expenses. Just an example of one industry under pressure.
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Britain is definitely getting poorer and the prices of things remains the same or goes up. Britain is one of the poorest countries in the world but the government don’t give a flying hoot about it. I’ve had to rely on food banks due to money being stopped and believe me I’ve tried to get a job on numerous occasions but it’s not that simple and even if I did there is no guarantee that we would be better off
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Britain is definitely getting poorer and the prices of things remains the same or goes up. Britain is one of the poorest countries in the world but the government don’t give a flying hoot about it. I’ve had to rely on food banks due to money being stopped and believe me I’ve tried to get a job on numerous occasions but it’s not that simple and even if I did there is no guarantee that we would be better off
Mrscxxx "
I dont think Britain could class as one of the poorest countries in the world? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm going to throw this out there, it may be recieved negatively but I think what needs to be done is money management lessons.
This is from someone who's husband walked out on her when my baby was 4 weeks old never to be seen again because he couldn't handle the pressure of a newborn. He's never paid a penny towards my boy. Life was hard, really hard. I used to dread Christmas and birthdays but I learnt to manage. We had no luxuries. We ended up in a shitty flat and toys and clothes were obtained second hand.
Now hes 16 through hard work and determination we are financially stable. People say he's spoilt it's because I can spoil him now.
What I will say is I got no help other than tax credits. I worked my arse off. Our entertainment was going to the park etc I didn't go out drinking.
I counted every last penny.
Agree with this, some many genuinely need the help, but I have seen many people prioritize want before need and sometimes they can't even differentiate between the 2. Some of these things just make it too easy for people to get a hand out and some milk it, when they don't need to. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Britain is definitely getting poorer and the prices of things remains the same or goes up. Britain is one of the poorest countries in the world but the government don’t give a flying hoot about it. I’ve had to rely on food banks due to money being stopped and believe me I’ve tried to get a job on numerous occasions but it’s not that simple and even if I did there is no guarantee that we would be better off
Mrscxxx "
Britain is the 5th richest country in the world! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Britain is definitely getting poorer and the prices of things remains the same or goes up. Britain is one of the poorest countries in the world but the government don’t give a flying hoot about it. I’ve had to rely on food banks due to money being stopped and believe me I’ve tried to get a job on numerous occasions but it’s not that simple and even if I did there is no guarantee that we would be better off
Mrscxxx
Britain is the 5th richest country in the world! "
The richest 10% of households hold 45% of all wealth. The poorest 50%, by contrast, own just 8.7% |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Don’t have them if you cannot afford them
Lots of people are able to afford them when they had them. Situations change. "
Absolutely. But plenty have them who can’t afford them. I couldn’t, hence the large age gap. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Somewhere in the over one million single mum's life is a single father. Why isn't he being held responsible here?
Not just the one man for the million babies you understand. 
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definitions of "poor" seem to have changed tho.... when I was a kid it meant not having enough ten pences to put in electric/gas meter (yep that's how old I am) .. nowadays it seems wether someone can afford the latest I phone contract or the full sky tv package... how many plead poverty while clutching an iPhone on contract for 80quid a month..while watching sky sports...on betfair... |
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"definitions of "poor" seem to have changed tho.... when I was a kid it meant not having enough ten pences to put in electric/gas meter (yep that's how old I am) .. nowadays it seems wether someone can afford the latest I phone contract or the full sky tv package... how many plead poverty while clutching an iPhone on contract for 80quid a month..while watching sky sports...on betfair... "
That seems to be a common opinion. Do you know how many do that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I judge the society i live in by the way it treats the most vulnerable.
If we need baby banks something is seriously wrong.
On a positive note I applaud those who donate to them and run them."
You judge a society for how it treats its most vunerable and then criticise it for helping the vunerable?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If it means that people truly in need can provide the basics for their children then I'm all for it. It's not the children's fault of the situation they are born into, they should not suffer.
The Government said in 2009 that no child should be living in poverty, hence the arrival of tax credits, yet here we are 10 years later with children in such situations.
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It doesn't matter what you do you csnt stop peoples choices.
Short of a communist era style system of the state taking away all kids |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I am all for it, anything to help everything, every little helps as now brexit is around the corner, tough times ahead."
I meant everyone instead of everything.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm going to throw this out there, it may be recieved negatively but I think what needs to be done is money management lessons.
This is from someone who's husband walked out on her when my baby was 4 weeks old never to be seen again because he couldn't handle the pressure of a newborn. He's never paid a penny towards my boy. Life was hard, really hard. I used to dread Christmas and birthdays but I learnt to manage. We had no luxuries. We ended up in a shitty flat and toys and clothes were obtained second hand.
Now hes 16 through hard work and determination we are financially stable. People say he's spoilt it's because I can spoil him now.
What I will say is I got no help other than tax credits. I worked my arse off. Our entertainment was going to the park etc I didn't go out drinking.
I counted every last penny. "
So much to love about this xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Britain is definitely getting poorer and the prices of things remains the same or goes up. Britain is one of the poorest countries in the world but the government don’t give a flying hoot about it. I’ve had to rely on food banks due to money being stopped and believe me I’ve tried to get a job on numerous occasions but it’s not that simple and even if I did there is no guarantee that we would be better off
Mrscxxx
Britain is the 5th richest country in the world! "
No the government are not us the British public |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Don’t have them if you cannot afford them "
Not always that straightforward though. Circumstances change and people fall on hard times.
Not sure the country is poorer. The benefits system has changed a lot, universal credit being paid monthly. Not everyone knows how to budget. Not everyone knows naturally how to parent, giving them the equipment they need is a good starting point.
The children don’t choose to be born. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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All I can say is well done to all the mums struggling to bring up there children on the bread line... i pay for my little ones and chuck in more when needed... I feel for single mums that have to struggle it's hard enough without worrying about money |
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"I'm going to throw this out there, it may be recieved negatively but I think what needs to be done is money management lessons.
This is from someone who's husband walked out on her when my baby was 4 weeks old never to be seen again because he couldn't handle the pressure of a newborn. He's never paid a penny towards my boy. Life was hard, really hard. I used to dread Christmas and birthdays but I learnt to manage. We had no luxuries. We ended up in a shitty flat and toys and clothes were obtained second hand.
Now hes 16 through hard work and determination we are financially stable. People say he's spoilt it's because I can spoil him now.
What I will say is I got no help other than tax credits. I worked my arse off. Our entertainment was going to the park etc I didn't go out drinking.
I counted every last penny. "
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I feel for anyone that’s struggling, I would really struggle if my life was tuned upside down, it’s very common for a couple to have children and space of a short while it ends up as a single parent family, this is devastating and the struggle will go on for years and years, everyone is affected, redundancy and illness too
Everything costs so much more than years ago good food costs loads as well as heating and housing, single parents are under pressure to work and raise children at the same time, disabled are being taken off benefits, life is just shit for many and they will feel one step forward three steps back
Harping on about war time doesn’t really help when you live in this age, people shouldn’t poor Shame they should just try to help out, when you have a good idea the next door neighbour is struggling to put the heating on or buy coats for the kids, see if you can help out speak and offer what you can, I share my Internet with next door I make extra food send it over etc she has my full respect and I will always do my best for her. I didn’t know about the baby banks and I’m guessing it’s heartbreaking to need that help, sad times for loads of people |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it just me? We didn't have children until we were sure we could afford to provide for them?"
Pur of all the people i know with kids i think only 2 actually planned to have them |
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"I feel for anyone that’s struggling, I would really struggle if my life was tuned upside down, it’s very common for a couple to have children and space of a short while it ends up as a single parent family, this is devastating and the struggle will go on for years and years, everyone is affected, redundancy and illness too
Everything costs so much more than years ago good food costs loads as well as heating and housing, single parents are under pressure to work and raise children at the same time, disabled are being taken off benefits, life is just shit for many and they will feel one step forward three steps back
Harping on about war time doesn’t really help when you live in this age, people shouldn’t poor Shame they should just try to help out, when you have a good idea the next door neighbour is struggling to put the heating on or buy coats for the kids, see if you can help out speak and offer what you can, I share my Internet with next door I make extra food send it over etc she has my full respect and I will always do my best for her. I didn’t know about the baby banks and I’m guessing it’s heartbreaking to need that help, sad times for loads of people "
Much respect, what an amazing thing to do.... |
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By *agluvrMan
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"I'm going to throw this out there, it may be recieved negatively but I think what needs to be done is money management lessons.
This is from someone who's husband walked out on her when my baby was 4 weeks old never to be seen again because he couldn't handle the pressure of a newborn. He's never paid a penny towards my boy. Life was hard, really hard. I used to dread Christmas and birthdays but I learnt to manage. We had no luxuries. We ended up in a shitty flat and toys and clothes were obtained second hand.
Now hes 16 through hard work and determination we are financially stable. People say he's spoilt it's because I can spoil him now.
What I will say is I got no help other than tax credits. I worked my arse off. Our entertainment was going to the park etc I didn't go out drinking.
I counted every last penny. "
Money management courses will of course help. Martin Lewis has been advocating for those to happen in the classroom ever since the last recession and I think he makes a compelling argument. However, I think classes need to be available to all ages and need to be free - people with no money won’t attend a class that they can’t afford to pay for. |
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