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BUT....IS IT MORAL????
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Ok, so I've heard quite a bit on here about "morality" and how it pertains to swingers (mostly when it comes to bareback sex...though there are others).
A few (or many) on here claim the moral high ground regarding their swinging experience. ie--"we are morally superior to all else because we don't believe in x, y, or z."
Do you think you are above and beyond others because you....do whatever but don't do that?
Some examples:
I won't go bareback, it's not fair to any resulting kids.
I only have sex with straight men, bi might have diseases.
I only have sex with those with however many veri's, as more veri's increases the chance of infections.
Many others abound.
I don't judge, I have sex with those who appeal, and not with those who don't....just curious as a few, if not more, seem to claim the moral high ground on some things (but not others): I'm just curious.
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I try not to be judgemental, its other peoples lives they can do what they want. But I do find stuff off putting to me personally and I think that's ok. I may put others off its swings and roundabouts tho I don't expect to be judged either. |
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"I try not to be judgemental, its other peoples lives they can do what they want. But I do find stuff off putting to me personally and I think that's ok. I may put others off its swings and roundabouts tho I don't expect to be judged either."
I completely agree....
Not being into the same thing is completely different than saying someone is wrong for their choices! |
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"But isn't describing others as claiming the moral high ground a judgement?
not if they do?
Only in your opinion - that's a "judgement"
Disagree....having an opinion means that's what I think. Judging means "you're wrong for not doing the right thing---in other words, with I think is right.""
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"But isn't describing others as claiming the moral high ground a judgement?
not if they do?
Only in your opinion - that's a "judgement"
Disagree....having an opinion means that's what I think. Judging means "you're wrong for not doing the right thing---in other words, with I think is right.""
And you think they are wrong for not doing what you think is right, and inviting others to join you in your judgement. Which part of that are you not getting? |
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Morals - A few, a lot more than when younger.
Judgemental - Try not to be but am human so can be.
Preferances - We have ours. Other people have theirs. When comes to swinging each to their own. Bareback not for us as example, but if others into it. Go for it. |
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"But isn't describing others as claiming the moral high ground a judgement?
not if they do?
Only in your opinion - that's a "judgement"
Disagree....having an opinion means that's what I think. Judging means "you're wrong for not doing the right thing---in other words, with I think is right."
And you think they are wrong for not doing what you think is right, and inviting others to join you in your judgement. Which part of that are you not getting? "
My point is not judging. What I happen to think is right or wrong is irrelevant. I invite people to join me in saying that what is right or wrong is up to the person making the choice. |
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"But isn't describing others as claiming the moral high ground a judgement?
not if they do?
Only in your opinion - that's a "judgement"
Disagree....having an opinion means that's what I think. Judging means "you're wrong for not doing the right thing---in other words, with I think is right."
And you think they are wrong for not doing what you think is right, and inviting others to join you in your judgement. Which part of that are you not getting?
My point is not judging. What I happen to think is right or wrong is irrelevant. I invite people to join me in saying that what is right or wrong is up to the person making the choice."
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You didn't invite people to join you in your non-judgement, but to join you in judging those who judge. |
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"But isn't describing others as claiming the moral high ground a judgement?
not if they do?
Only in your opinion - that's a "judgement"
Disagree....having an opinion means that's what I think. Judging means "you're wrong for not doing the right thing---in other words, with I think is right."
And you think they are wrong for not doing what you think is right, and inviting others to join you in your judgement. Which part of that are you not getting?
My point is not judging. What I happen to think is right or wrong is irrelevant. I invite people to join me in saying that what is right or wrong is up to the person making the choice..
You didn't invite people to join you in your non-judgement, but to join you in judging those who judge. "
True. I judge those who judge. But hope to find those who don't. |
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over a year ago
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Like all Internet forums this one suffers with hypocrites who think their shit doesn’t stink.
This particular forum is going through a phase where a few try to set the moral high ground. Most of it is virtue signaling to their forum buddies. |
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"Like all Internet forums this one suffers with hypocrites who think their shit doesn’t stink.
This particular forum is going through a phase where a few try to set the moral high ground. Most of it is virtue signaling to their forum buddies. "
It’s funny what other people see and you don’t, cause I’ve never noticed that, or maybe you’re just over analysing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Even silence is judged, judgement is survival, otherwise we'd all have been robbed and assaulted and left in a ditch years ago.....
(I'm totally virtuous though, I'm a perfect shag too)   |
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over a year ago
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I'm not sure that it is judgement or people expressing their personal preference but then using that as a barometer of their own standards.
Everyone has different things they prefer and those they prefer to avoid. Using that as something that sets you aside from the rest is just how people like to categorise themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Who cares. Judgements, morals, preferences. Call them what you will. We all have them and we will all do what we want anyway. People should just get on with what they want to do and leave others to do the same. Fab would be a much better place  |
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"Like all Internet forums this one suffers with hypocrites who think their shit doesn’t stink.
This particular forum is going through a phase where a few try to set the moral high ground. Most of it is virtue signaling to their forum buddies.
It’s funny what other people see and you don’t, cause I’ve never noticed that, or maybe you’re just over analysing."
Maybe you’re too close to it huh? |
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"Like all Internet forums this one suffers with hypocrites who think their shit doesn’t stink.
This particular forum is going through a phase where a few try to set the moral high ground. Most of it is virtue signaling to their forum buddies.
It’s funny what other people see and you don’t, cause I’ve never noticed that, or maybe you’re just over analysing."
I’ve not noticed either, with the exceptional thread most are pretty friendly and non judgemental |
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"Who cares. Judgements, morals, preferences. Call them what you will. We all have them and we will all do what we want anyway. People should just get on with what they want to do and leave others to do the same. Fab would be a much better place "
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We all choose who we think will be a great shag
Ok no bi... for me it reminds me of my ex husband that was gay, who want to have sex with anyone if they are doing it whilst thinking of sucking cock as they come? I might be odd here but I’d prefer to be with someone that was thinking about me at that point
No bareback ... for me I just don’t want to put my precious self in a mans hands that could or is infected
Someone with loads of veris... unless they are a super sex god, to me it means they will fuck anyone, simply more is better etc we are not animals we have advanced minds that need fulfilled too, no one can seduce me if they are currently chatting and planning to be with a handful of other women they will not have the time or passion to do so I will not be interested
We all make choices for ourselves ultimately and that’s good |
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"I just meet the people I want in the way that me and they want and take no heed in what others make think about it.
You’re definitely immoral, I’ve been keeping tabs on you  "
Thats where all the fun is  |
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"I just meet the people I want in the way that me and they want and take no heed in what others make think about it.
You’re definitely immoral, I’ve been keeping tabs on you
Thats where all the fun is "
Definitely, keep at it |
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"Don’t we all judge to some extent? Surely it’s more about what we do with that judgement that matters. "
If it affects me then yes I do. Quietly though. Don’t see the point in publicly bashing people. That’s what annoys me on here  |
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"Who cares. Judgements, morals, preferences. Call them what you will. We all have them and we will all do what we want anyway. People should just get on with what they want to do and leave others to do the same. Fab would be a much better place "
Exactly
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I don't think I'm better / worse or anything than other people. I partake or not according to my experience in life. Nobody is even remotely perfect in anything if you take it to the nth degree. We all have to make our own choices and mistakes and live with whatever consequences they have. I've made shitloads of mistakes !!!! |
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Of course we all judge to a certain degree, it's human nature.
The problems arise when people come on to forums and spout their opinion like its the only one people should have. |
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"Of course we all judge to a certain degree, it's human nature.
The problems arise when people come on to forums and spout their opinion like its the only one people should have. "
I just said something similar in a different thread.
It feels like there's a lot of this going on at the moment.
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"Of course we all judge to a certain degree, it's human nature.
The problems arise when people come on to forums and spout their opinion like its the only one people should have. "
I think problems arise when people don't realise that polite disagreement is discussion not insult. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
There is a huge difference between "passing" judgement and "using" judgement though - the first is what I think the OP is referring to that does apply to some here and usually has negative connotations.
The second is something we all do, and express through preferences, choices etc and is a natural part of the every day fabric we each call life.
As Babs said, the difference is in how we express those judgements. |
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