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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
Why stop at middle aged generation? What about the older folk, the youngsters. |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
What about the younger generation?
Porn is so much more accessible than ever before. Are young men becoming de-sensitised to what is normal, and what is fantasy? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There is a plethora of porn. Something for everyone I find. But you don't see often who directed or produced it. Women produced porn would rebalance things. But it needs good marketing , like dare I mention...Blacked dotcom. |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
Its almost impossible especially with some misogynists in total denial over it. The reality is you can't re-educate imbeciles and self oriented people with no respect for others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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All that aggressive sex worries me. It's too close to a dangerous mindset that revolves around non consensual sex. I wouldn't be intimate with anyone like that. Bring back the passion and romance  let's make us normal again  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All that aggressive sex worries me. It's too close to a dangerous mindset that revolves around non consensual sex. I wouldn't be intimate with anyone like that. Bring back the passion and romance let's make us normal again "
So much this! A bit of RP is fine but not like the hardcore stuff |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
I imagine a 30 second conversation with the average woman? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All that aggressive sex worries me. It's too close to a dangerous mindset that revolves around non consensual sex. I wouldn't be intimate with anyone like that. Bring back the passion and romance let's make us normal again
So much this! A bit of RP is fine but not like the hardcore stuff"
"So much this! I'm now going to say the exact oposite but am going to phrase it as if i agree" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All that aggressive sex worries me. It's too close to a dangerous mindset that revolves around non consensual sex. I wouldn't be intimate with anyone like that. Bring back the passion and romance let's make us normal again
So much this! A bit of RP is fine but not like the hardcore stuff
"So much this! I'm now going to say the exact oposite but am going to phrase it as if i agree""
No too aggressive is horrible I can’t stand it
But Danish for example likes my hand on her throat which makes me mildly uncomfortable but I couldn’t full on ch0ke her lol |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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I'd actually disagree that the "majority" of porn infers that women are to be used and abused - *some* of it does for sure but a lot of it shows women on an equal footing or even in control also.
Like any stereotype though how it is countered is a gradual thing and not something that has a "magic wand" answer - much like the change in attitudes towards women from what they were in the 50s to what they are now.
I think *most* rational people are able to see beyond the image that is displayed and realise that it is fantasy acting too and not at all connected with reality. Sadly there will always be some that don't/can't.
The bigger issue with porn is the perception it creates for some of what is acceptable or even normal - not necessarily the "use and abuse" angle. |
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To be fair it's not hard to work out you can't expect a woman to be treated as a porn star, I did go through the phase of watching said porn that was like that but I soon got bored of it because it just wasn't realistic. I went onto amateur after that phase |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix |
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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
More female based porn |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix "
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank |
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank"
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!! |
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!! "
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The problem with porn is that it is deliberately made so that:
It is accessible to the average male.
Appeals to the average male.
If porn was covered in school or discussed at home, people could be educated that, as with a lot of entertainment, it is not a reflection on real life.
I know that super heroes don't exist, you can't be bitten by a radioactive spider and then climb walls. Equally, I can't turn up at a neighbours with my toolbox, fix a leaky tap and be balls deep within 5 minutes.
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!!
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent."
I have a rather inappropriate image of Deborah Meaden in my head currently |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!!
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent.
I have a rather inappropriate image of Deborah Meaden in my head currently "
At least it's not Peter Jones... |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!!
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent.
I have a rather inappropriate image of Deborah Meaden in my head currently
At least it's not Peter Jones..."
Nah, his socks'd put me off!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!!
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent.
I have a rather inappropriate image of Deborah Meaden in my head currently
At least it's not Peter Jones...
Nah, his socks'd put me off!!"
Mmmmmm socks!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!!
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent.
I have a rather inappropriate image of Deborah Meaden in my head currently
At least it's not Peter Jones...
Nah, his socks'd put me off!!"
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"That's down to the individual. I've seen loads if porn and I dint think like this"
Yep.
Pretty much every guy I’ve met who have been avid porn watchers have still been incredibly respectful and not bouldered into a meet expecting me to immediately bow down and get ruined until I’m crying in the corner in delsarate need of a hug....
....well I did say pretty much hehe...But I digress!
It’s like saying playing computer games makes you violent. It’s not about porn it’s about people’s realistic view of sex and how separate a lot of the extreme porn is to real life. It’s a fantasy and if a guy doesn’t realise that then he’s just plain stupid. |
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"That's down to the individual. I've seen loads if porn and I dint think like this
Yep.
Pretty much every guy I’ve met who have been avid porn watchers have still been incredibly respectful and not bouldered into a meet expecting me to immediately bow down and get ruined until I’m crying in the corner in delsarate need of a hug....
....well I did say pretty much hehe...But I digress!
It’s like saying playing computer games makes you violent. It’s not about porn it’s about people’s realistic view of sex and how separate a lot of the extreme porn is to real life. It’s a fantasy and if a guy doesn’t realise that then he’s just plain stupid."
I agree. I think the average person is quite capable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality, in porn or anywhere else. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'd actually disagree that the "majority" of porn infers that women are to be used and abused - *some* of it does for sure but a lot of it shows women on an equal footing or even in control also.
Like any stereotype though how it is countered is a gradual thing and not something that has a "magic wand" answer - much like the change in attitudes towards women from what they were in the 50s to what they are now.
I think *most* rational people are able to see beyond the image that is displayed and realise that it is fantasy acting too and not at all connected with reality. Sadly there will always be some that don't/can't.
The bigger issue with porn is the perception it creates for some of what is acceptable or even normal - not necessarily the "use and abuse" angle. "
The younger generation seem to think porn attitudes to sex are how they should be. Going from what some young people on recent sex/ porn programmes have said. They perhaps don't have anyone telling them that those aspects aren't 'mandatory' or acceptable.
Fair point about there also being female led porn. I think that's possibly a niche market that many won't search for.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!!
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"That's down to the individual. I've seen loads if porn and I dint think like this
Yep.
Pretty much every guy I’ve met who have been avid porn watchers have still been incredibly respectful and not bouldered into a meet expecting me to immediately bow down and get ruined until I’m crying in the corner in delsarate need of a hug....
....well I did say pretty much hehe...But I digress!
It’s like saying playing computer games makes you violent. It’s not about porn it’s about people’s realistic view of sex and how separate a lot of the extreme porn is to real life. It’s a fantasy and if a guy doesn’t realise that then he’s just plain stupid."
I suppose the ones who don't realise that, just moan about not getting meets. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The problem with porn is that it is deliberately made so that:
It is accessible to the average male.
Appeals to the average male.
If porn was covered in school or discussed at home, people could be educated that, as with a lot of entertainment, it is not a reflection on real life.
I know that super heroes don't exist, you can't be bitten by a radioactive spider and then climb walls. Equally, I can't turn up at a neighbours with my toolbox, fix a leaky tap and be balls deep within 5 minutes.
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"All that aggressive sex worries me. It's too close to a dangerous mindset that revolves around non consensual sex. I wouldn't be intimate with anyone like that. Bring back the passion and romance let's make us normal again "
It's not often I laugh out loud Ha x |
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix "
Twinkle Twinkle wouldn't sound the same in vibrato ...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
That's why you need someone to read to you while you wank
That's a dragons den idea if ever I've heard one!!
Before approaching the Dragons I'd have to get someone on board who doesn't have a ridiculous accent.
I have a rather inappropriate image of Deborah Meaden in my head currently
At least it's not Peter Jones...
Nah, his socks'd put me off!!"
Peter Jones could read me a story any day |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd actually disagree that the "majority" of porn infers that women are to be used and abused - *some* of it does for sure but a lot of it shows women on an equal footing or even in control also.
Like any stereotype though how it is countered is a gradual thing and not something that has a "magic wand" answer - much like the change in attitudes towards women from what they were in the 50s to what they are now.
I think *most* rational people are able to see beyond the image that is displayed and realise that it is fantasy acting too and not at all connected with reality. Sadly there will always be some that don't/can't.
The bigger issue with porn is the perception it creates for some of what is acceptable or even normal - not necessarily the "use and abuse" angle. "
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Its almost impossible especially with some misogynists in total denial over it. The reality is you can't re-educate imbeciles and self oriented people with no respect for others. "
It's hard to knock porn when I'm looking at such an amazingly sexy profile picture thinking wow I hope she's as up for it as she looks! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Its almost impossible especially with some misogynists in total denial over it. The reality is you can't re-educate imbeciles and self oriented people with no respect for others.
It's hard to knock porn when I'm looking at such an amazingly sexy profile picture thinking wow I hope she's as up for it as she looks!"
Thanks for showing what I mean. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Porn is not helpful to the development of Male and Female sexual relations. Bring me as much originality as you have not what you keep discovering on your PC.
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
I wonder if you’ve ever looked up on google what women’s favourite fantasies are ?
If not , do it . You may well be surprised .
Anyway , notwithstanding that , surely you must be aware that the vast majority of people realise porn is just a fantasy , and even with all the meets we’ve had on fab over the years , we’ve never come across anyone who thinks women are just here to be used and abused . We’ve done dogging , clubs , parties , home meets and never once have we come across what you speak of . |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
Tbf it's more youngsters that believe that copying pornstars represents the very pinnacle of being a good lover.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be honest many girls now believe this too based on the numbers my boys racking up
What do you mean?
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Compared to when i was 18 girls know more have done more are more sexualized and much more game having heard some of the storys my boys told me |
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You might also want to consider changing the content of the average rap track from the previous quarter decade- far too much pimps, ho's, guns, money and drugs...although we could just ban Americans, as they seem to be the most prolific producers of both genres  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"porn and drink get lots of folk laid [that would strugle with out it ]ha i know me toooo.
whaaaaaaaat?
queenie it worked for you.you up the duff.[only kidin ]ha ha"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
I wonder if you’ve ever looked up on google what women’s favourite fantasies are ?
If not , do it . You may well be surprised .
Anyway , notwithstanding that , surely you must be aware that the vast majority of people realise porn is just a fantasy , and even with all the meets we’ve had on fab over the years , we’ve never come across anyone who thinks women are just here to be used and abused . We’ve done dogging , clubs , parties , home meets and never once have we come across what you speak of . "
I can imagine what many women's fantasies are. The issue is when some men misunderstand.
You give me hope Mr Glos. You maybe were lucky. Or you attracted a certain type of people who are similar to you. -I mean that in a positive way.  |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
Are you only blaming porn for this??  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"To be honest many girls now believe this too based on the numbers my boys racking up
What do you mean?
Compared to when i was 18 girls know more have done more are more sexualized and much more game having heard some of the storys my boys told me "
Hopefully that's a positive thing. They're feeling more confident. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I can happily draw a line between porn and reality
Most porn scenarios are so far fetched they are almost sci-fi anyway "
Are you watching Star Trek by accident? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I can happily draw a line between porn and reality
Most porn scenarios are so far fetched they are almost sci-fi anyway
Are you watching Star Trek by accident? "
'Deep space nine' does sound kinda porno-ish |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
I watch lots of Porn and I don't think like this. Frank education about sex ie consent, social responsibility and consequences, would go a long way to helping young people develop realistic views on the difference between what you seen in porn vs what to expect in real life. |
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I really need to stop watching porn.... Believe it or not it's actually starting to bore me... But it helps me get to sleep at night after masturbating.... it's just a unhealthy obsession ... |
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"The problem with porn is that it is deliberately made so that:
It is accessible to the average male.
Appeals to the average male.
If porn was covered in school or discussed at home, people could be educated that, as with a lot of entertainment, it is not a reflection on real life.
I know that super heroes don't exist, you can't be bitten by a radioactive spider and then climb walls. Equally, I can't turn up at a neighbours with my toolbox, fix a leaky tap and be balls deep within 5 minutes.
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.wait you had to have lessons in school to teach you super heros arent real?
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By *emini ManMan
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"I'd actually disagree that the "majority" of porn infers that women are to be used and abused - *some* of it does for sure but a lot of it shows women on an equal footing or even in control also.
Like any stereotype though how it is countered is a gradual thing and not something that has a "magic wand" answer - much like the change in attitudes towards women from what they were in the 50s to what they are now.
I think *most* rational people are able to see beyond the image that is displayed and realise that it is fantasy acting too and not at all connected with reality. Sadly there will always be some that don't/can't.
The bigger issue with porn is the perception it creates for some of what is acceptable or even normal - not necessarily the "use and abuse" angle.
The younger generation seem to think porn attitudes to sex are how they should be. Going from what some young people on recent sex/ porn programmes have said. They perhaps don't have anyone telling them that those aspects aren't 'mandatory' or acceptable.
Fair point about there also being female led porn. I think that's possibly a niche market that many won't search for.
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Whilst it is a concern that youngsters may well get false perceptions from porn - your OP specifically referenced the middle aged which is what my post was answering.
Regardless of age though I still don't think the biggest issue with the majority of porn is that it infers women are to be "used and abused" - more that it creates false perceptions about "normal" sex and sexuality amongst some and that is somewhat different.
My comment about women being in control wasn't about the niche areas (e.g. femdom) either - there are now a lot of women porn directors for example, or porn that shows the woman being either an equal partner or taking control of a situation - yeah there are still the mysoginistic Ben Dover type scenarios that hark back to the 70s still and the more niche stuff but it's on the decline from what I have seen.
As I said like most things where stereotypes have to change, it's a gradual process - but I honestly think most rational people can tell the difference between the fantasy of porn and the reality.
As for youngsters I agree they have it available at the click of a mouse today (unlike when I was a kid and porn was page 3 and the occasional glimpse of soft porn magazines) and that in itself is both sad and a concern - as adults all we can do is try and educate our kids to what is normal and acceptable and ensure we're monitoring our kids internet use appropriately. |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
It may have some positive effects on some women (& men). Makes sex a less taboo subject. May also liberate women and empower them- there are a lot of them on fab. Helps marriages stay fresh and exciting by removing old fashioned ideas of sex etc.... too many to list and such a complex subject.
There's negatives for men as well, such performance and body expectations, especially size and unrealistic expectations.
Good question though OP |
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I genuinely feel those "look at this slut being banged really hard" videos are abhorrent.
And that's a lot of what's wrong with porn.
Maybe there are men and women that get their jollies from that but def not my thing (and I'm off that generation ) |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?"
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
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P.S I forgot to say, it's definitley not possible to just spend 30 seconds googling porn trends and see what kinds are the most popular, or see what kinds of porn women look at.
So you definitley wouldn't find out that BDSM porn or any of its related categories are not even in the top 10 searches amonst either men or women.
And it's not possible to find out that hardcore pornography and rough sex are both more popular search terms with women than they are with men |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
P.S I forgot to say, it's definitley not possible to just spend 30 seconds googling porn trends and see what kinds are the most popular, or see what kinds of porn women look at.
So you definitley wouldn't find out that BDSM porn or any of its related categories are not even in the top 10 searches amonst either men or women.
And it's not possible to find out that hardcore pornography and rough sex are both more popular search terms with women than they are with men "
How do they know what type of porn men vs women look at?
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
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The OP isn't about women in porn. |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
The OP isn't about women in porn. "
What part of "porn infers that women are to be used and abused" isn't about women in porn, am I missing some kind of forum in joke or something |
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"There is a plethora of porn. Something for everyone I find. But you don't see often who directed or produced it. Women produced porn would rebalance things. But it needs good marketing , like dare I mention...Blacked dotcom."
Loads of porn is shot and produced by women, there are plenty of positive female role models making porn for all genders and persuasions. But you do need to look outside the mainstream and look for the less mainstream/'alt.porn' stuff. Simply adopting a viewpoint that 'all porn is bad and corrupts the viewer whilst exploring the participants' is closed-minded and generally ignorant of the bigger picture. |
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over a year ago
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
The OP isn't about women in porn.
What part of "porn infers that women are to be used and abused" isn't about women in porn, am I missing some kind of forum in joke or something "
Actually, you're about to see something very rare - so sit back and be amazed
In this instance, the OP was referring to the perception created by porn about how women *outside of the porn industry* should be treated when it comes to sex - so not necessarily about women in porn, which is a whole other thread (although I do agree with some of your points on that subject, and have made it clear upthread that I disagree with some of the points made by the OP).
Hopefully that clarifies that there is no in-joke here |
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How do they know what type of porn men vs women look at?
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Most of the free hub/tube sites use a combination of cookies and pushing users into signing up for accounts that require date of birth and gender to sign up and usually ask for optional info like sexual orientation etc. Then once they havev your cookie I'd or login, they track what you watch. Simple really. |
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It’s ironic with so many here taking the high road, it wasn’t that long ago ye were all flocking off to the movies like there was cakes going out of fashion to watch and idolise a women that was merely treated like a pet dog, all the while there’s a bunch of girls twerking the shit out of it bars across the country... Women sexualise women  |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
The OP isn't about women in porn.
What part of "porn infers that women are to be used and abused" isn't about women in porn, am I missing some kind of forum in joke or something
Actually, you're about to see something very rare - so sit back and be amazed
In this instance, the OP was referring to the perception created by porn about how women *outside of the porn industry* should be treated when it comes to sex - so not necessarily about women in porn, which is a whole other thread (although I do agree with some of your points on that subject, and have made it clear upthread that I disagree with some of the points made by the OP).
Hopefully that clarifies that there is no in-joke here "
My question still remains.
When this violent porn that OP references isn't even in the top 10 of popular porn categories, how exactly does 'society' or 'men' or whoever, get a perception of what a woman is supposed to do in the bedroom?
It would be like my neighbour telling me he thinks coca cola is rubbish, then me asking how we stop the next generation from thinking coca cola is rubbish too.
There's absolutely no argument here, it's simply not popular enough to even be considered an issue.
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
The OP isn't about women in porn.
What part of "porn infers that women are to be used and abused" isn't about women in porn, am I missing some kind of forum in joke or something
Actually, you're about to see something very rare - so sit back and be amazed
In this instance, the OP was referring to the perception created by porn about how women *outside of the porn industry* should be treated when it comes to sex - so not necessarily about women in porn, which is a whole other thread (although I do agree with some of your points on that subject, and have made it clear upthread that I disagree with some of the points made by the OP).
Hopefully that clarifies that there is no in-joke here
My question still remains.
When this violent porn that OP references isn't even in the top 10 of popular porn categories, how exactly does 'society' or 'men' or whoever, get a perception of what a woman is supposed to do in the bedroom?
It would be like my neighbour telling me he thinks coca cola is rubbish, then me asking how we stop the next generation from thinking coca cola is rubbish too.
There's absolutely no argument here, it's simply not popular enough to even be considered an issue.
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I think you'd probably need to know the figures before you were so dismissive. It might not be top ten but if the top ten got, say, 100 millionish hits and number 11 got 90 million hits and of those 20 million were 18 and under its still the population of some pretty large countries. That's a lot of people violently wanking about Rola cola all at once. Bit frothy for my liking |
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My question still remains.
When this violent porn that OP references isn't even in the top 10 of popular porn categories, how exactly does 'society' or 'men' or whoever, get a perception of what a woman is supposed to do in the bedroom?
It would be like my neighbour telling me he thinks coca cola is rubbish, then me asking how we stop the next generation from thinking coca cola is rubbish too.
There's absolutely no argument here, it's simply not popular enough to even be considered an issue.
"
As I made quite clear in my reply above, I don't entirely agree with what the OP is suggesting and have made my points about that further up. However I don't think she was referring to any specific genre either - more the perception that porn generally can suggest it's ok to use and abuse women, and as an off-shoot to that the perception that porn represents "normal" sexual behaviour.
And in *some* people, particularly impressionable youngsters, it *can* have that effect - like I said I don't agree with all the OP is saying but there are enough cases where the assertion holds true to make it worthy of discussion.
To give an example - teens thinking anal is normal and an expected part of sex, now I'm not saying anal doesn't have it's place, far from it, but when I was that age I certainly didn't think it was normal or to be expected, but a lot of kids today do, and that is largely down to the accessibility of porn.
Or here's another one, that we often see on here - men who think they are somehow a failure because they can't "make" a woman squirt or because they can't bang away for hours without cumming - both of which can be attributed to porn.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy porn, but am also aware of the dangers of it for some even if I do think some of the OPs assertions are very wide of the mark. |
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You make a valid point, but surely there are positives too. For instance, porn also normalised giving oral sex to women as part of the sexual process whereas not so long ago it was seen as something of a kink and in some cultures verging on unmasculine or taboo. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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I'm not sure about it coming from "older" men.
I know that the hardest porn I'd seen was a copy of Razzle prior to becoming sexually active. I was well into my 20s before I saw hardcore porn. So; I suppose my impression of sex/women's attitudes to sex were formed by interaction with women...... |
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
The OP isn't about women in porn.
What part of "porn infers that women are to be used and abused" isn't about women in porn, am I missing some kind of forum in joke or something
Actually, you're about to see something very rare - so sit back and be amazed
In this instance, the OP was referring to the perception created by porn about how women *outside of the porn industry* should be treated when it comes to sex - so not necessarily about women in porn, which is a whole other thread (although I do agree with some of your points on that subject, and have made it clear upthread that I disagree with some of the points made by the OP).
Hopefully that clarifies that there is no in-joke here
My question still remains.
When this violent porn that OP references isn't even in the top 10 of popular porn categories, how exactly does 'society' or 'men' or whoever, get a perception of what a woman is supposed to do in the bedroom?
It would be like my neighbour telling me he thinks coca cola is rubbish, then me asking how we stop the next generation from thinking coca cola is rubbish too.
There's absolutely no argument here, it's simply not popular enough to even be considered an issue.
I think you'd probably need to know the figures before you were so dismissive. It might not be top ten but if the top ten got, say, 100 millionish hits and number 11 got 90 million hits and of those 20 million were 18 and under its still the population of some pretty large countries. That's a lot of people violently wanking about Rola cola all at once. Bit frothy for my liking"
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"The majority of porn infers that women are to be used and abused, and that they're always up for a fuck.
How can we reverse that trend of opinion? Is it too late to teach the middle aged generation that women are people too?
Oh, one of these threads again. That's right everyone, we don't need citations round these parts, it's simply true that the majority of porn features violence.
It's also true that women are not able to consent, and don't choose to get into porn, don't choose to get paid ridiculously high amounts of money for the easiest job on the set, and women don't choose to sign contracts to be in porn that involves elements of violence.
Want to teach those younguns that women are people too? Look toward your own inability to understand that porn involves consenting adults.
The OP isn't about women in porn.
What part of "porn infers that women are to be used and abused" isn't about women in porn, am I missing some kind of forum in joke or something
Actually, you're about to see something very rare - so sit back and be amazed
In this instance, the OP was referring to the perception created by porn about how women *outside of the porn industry* should be treated when it comes to sex - so not necessarily about women in porn, which is a whole other thread (although I do agree with some of your points on that subject, and have made it clear upthread that I disagree with some of the points made by the OP).
Hopefully that clarifies that there is no in-joke here "
Thank you.
(You might not believe it but I do like your posts.) |
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"I'm not sure about it coming from "older" men.
I know that the hardest porn I'd seen was a copy of Razzle prior to becoming sexually active. I was well into my 20s before I saw hardcore porn. So; I suppose my impression of sex/women's attitudes to sex were formed by interaction with women......"
I was wondering if it's too late in life to change middle aged men's attitudes, not that they are the main problem. I didn't explain my thoughts well.
Women in a porn mag were smiley with legs open. I thought men just wanked about fucking them. Whereas video online porn gives many scenarios.
Although BDSM porn often has shots before and after where they interview the woman and confirm her consent. |
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"To be honest many girls now believe this too based on the numbers my boys racking up
What do you mean?
Compared to when i was 18 girls know more have done more are more sexualized and much more game having heard some of the storys my boys told me
Hopefully that's a positive thing. They're feeling more confident. "
depends if you have sons or daughters i suppose |
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix "
No, the best antidote to porn is real sex |
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"To be honest many girls now believe this too based on the numbers my boys racking up
What do you mean?
Compared to when i was 18 girls know more have done more are more sexualized and much more game having heard some of the storys my boys told me
Hopefully that's a positive thing. They're feeling more confident. depends if you have sons or daughters i suppose "
Because boys who fuck around are studs but girls who fuck around are slags?
Hopefully the girl's parents are teaching them about getting respect from men. I doubt many parents of boys will teach them that. |
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"You make a valid point, but surely there are positives too. For instance, porn also normalised giving oral sex to women as part of the sexual process whereas not so long ago it was seen as something of a kink and in some cultures verging on unmasculine or taboo. "
As with anything there are always positives and negatives - the availability of porn and sex related sites generally has opened a lot of people's eyes to sex and sexuality beyond the "once a month, missionary position with the lights out" variety and helped people come to terms with all sorts of deep seated anxieties and inner yearnings they couldn't quite understand, and that can only be a good thing.
Add to that that the porn industry is largely responsible for a lot of the early technical advances of the internet (for example streaming video, webcam technology and site security were all initially pioneered by the porn industry) and there is a lot to thank it for.
There will always be the negatives of course and it's those that have to be countered. |
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"The best antidote to porn is books, unfortunately it's hard to turn pages while wanking furiously and so porn will always have its place among those who need a quick visual fix
No, the best antidote to porn is real sex"
Oh I don't know... up until meeting my husband the only real sex I'd had had me considering a life of celibacy and a house full of cats. A large library of erotic fiction was the only thing that kept me going lol |
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By *imiUKMan
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"I'm not sure about it coming from "older" men.
I know that the hardest porn I'd seen was a copy of Razzle prior to becoming sexually active. I was well into my 20s before I saw hardcore porn. So; I suppose my impression of sex/women's attitudes to sex were formed by interaction with women......
I was wondering if it's too late in life to change middle aged men's attitudes, not that they are the main problem. I didn't explain my thoughts well.
Women in a porn mag were smiley with legs open. I thought men just wanked about fucking them. Whereas video online porn gives many scenarios.
Although BDSM porn often has shots before and after where they interview the woman and confirm her consent."
I suppose they did, it just required a massive mental leap/dissociation to apply that to reality, and I don't think most of us felt that porn had any bearing on reality.
I suppose there was the literary genius of the letters page.... |
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It’s an amazing time for the Adult Indudtry . I have been in it for 11 years now
The rough stuff is a small amount and all legal that is produced by studios. All pay sites have to comply to Visa card rules on acceptable content . (though not my cup of tea the choking stuff / slapping ) there is so much content share now with models / cam girls using clip sites to sell its great
Indie porn is fabulous as it puts money directly into models hands , lets them work / shoot with whom they wish and explore their own ideas .
Porn is a fantasy and I would question the stupidity of people if they think it’s a real reflection. Porn is not here to educate or explain its purpose is to sell fantasies .
Governments, schools are what should be teaching kids sex education .
We don’t all think horror films. Action films / call of duty games etc are all real reflections on life
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"It’s an amazing time for the Adult Indudtry . I have been in it for 11 years now
The rough stuff is a small amount and all legal that is produced by studios. All pay sites have to comply to Visa card rules on acceptable content . (though not my cup of tea the choking stuff / slapping ) there is so much content share now with models / cam girls using clip sites to sell its great
Indie porn is fabulous as it puts money directly into models hands , lets them work / shoot with whom they wish and explore their own ideas .
Porn is a fantasy and I would question the stupidity of people if they think it’s a real reflection. Porn is not here to educate or explain its purpose is to sell fantasies .
Governments, schools are what should be teaching kids sex education .
We don’t all think horror films. Action films / call of duty games etc are all real reflections on life
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Except of course, that teens do have access to it via the internet and it is noticeably affecting young people's attitudes to sex and body issues.
Keep your head in the sand if you like. |
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"It’s an amazing time for the Adult Indudtry . I have been in it for 11 years now
The rough stuff is a small amount and all legal that is produced by studios. All pay sites have to comply to Visa card rules on acceptable content . (though not my cup of tea the choking stuff / slapping ) there is so much content share now with models / cam girls using clip sites to sell its great
Indie porn is fabulous as it puts money directly into models hands , lets them work / shoot with whom they wish and explore their own ideas .
Porn is a fantasy and I would question the stupidity of people if they think it’s a real reflection. Porn is not here to educate or explain its purpose is to sell fantasies .
Governments, schools are what should be teaching kids sex education .
We don’t all think horror films. Action films / call of duty games etc are all real reflections on life
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I suppose its all realitive, if we are bringing our children up well then hopefully they will grow into respectful humans that realise and accept the difference between fantasy and reality, if we don’t, well then like all others things in life where children are not brought up well, we may have a problem, how will that problem be solved well that’s another thread