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"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . "Omg that’s terrible. Hugs xx | |||
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"Was anyone caught on either occasion? " not latest its on teletext around the uk north west lancashire. Rspca asking for information. ..what is the point if magistrates do f***all | |||
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"Stick them in a Lion enclosure . Payback !!"  | |||
"Was anyone caught on either occasion? not latest its on teletext around the uk north west lancashire. Rspca asking for information. ..what is the point if magistrates do f***all" Do people still use teletext ?  | |||
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"Stick them in a Lion enclosure . Payback !!" covered in bacon fat | |||
"Was anyone caught on either occasion? not latest its on teletext around the uk north west lancashire. Rspca asking for information. ..what is the point if magistrates do f***all Do people still use teletext ? "I thought that too | |||
"Was anyone caught on either occasion? not latest its on teletext around the uk north west lancashire. Rspca asking for information. ..what is the point if magistrates do f***all Do people still use teletext ?
I thought that too"whatever it is called on bbc.. is it that important to you ffs | |||
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"NO you are not And why would you want to" Because wild cats can be a massive problem. I have never killed them, all I am saying is, we were told when we had the problem to just kill them. | |||
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"Was anyone caught on either occasion? not latest its on teletext around the uk north west lancashire. Rspca asking for information. ..what is the point if magistrates do f***all Do people still use teletext ?
I thought that too
whatever it is called on bbc.. is it that important to you ffs "No it's not important I was just surprised as I thought teletext ended years ago and wasn't aware of an equivalent service. I do agree though that's it's a shitty thing for someone to do and they deserve to be prosecuted. | |||
"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them?" it was a pet siamese cat and it's the RSPCA that want to prosecute the criminals so yes they can do something | |||
"I just checked UK laws are different to here." It's not legal to kill them here either as far as I'm aware | |||
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"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them?" its the ones with the air rifles shooting pet cats who are vermin | |||
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"I just checked UK laws are different to here. It's not legal to kill them here either as far as I'm aware "Sure it is and I double checked, they are listed as a controllable pest in the UK, its legal to kill them in the UK too, just not pet cats. The RSPCA in this case are probably confident it could not have been confused for or considered a pest. | |||
"I just checked UK laws are different to here. It's not legal to kill them here either as far as I'm aware
Sure it is and I double checked, they are listed as a controllable pest in the UK, its legal to kill them in the UK too, just not pet cats.
The RSPCA in this case are probably confident it could not have been confused for or considered a pest.""Since feral cats were living in a wild state, and they were therefore not "protected animals". Did this mean that they had no legal protection? Fortunately, this is not the case. The only difference between pet cats and feral cats under the law is the fact that nobody may have a direct obligation to care for them. Feral cats are still protected from cruelty, just like other living, sentient creatures. Under Irish law, any act, or failure to act, that causes unnecessary suffering or endangers the health and welfare of any animal is an offence. It's against the law to injure - or to poison - feral cats, just as much as it would be to do this to pet cats". I can provide the link if you wish. | |||
"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . " | |||
"I just checked UK laws are different to here. It's not legal to kill them here either as far as I'm aware
Sure it is and I double checked, they are listed as a controllable pest in the UK, its legal to kill them in the UK too, just not pet cats.
The RSPCA in this case are probably confident it could not have been confused for or considered a pest."even if it was a wild cat surely you catch them in a trap and kill them humanely .the council catching rats don't go around the city centre with an air rifle they catch them in traps or quick acting poison. not make them suffer with a air rifle pellet in its spine | |||
"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . "Yeh same thing happened to my cat in late 80’s I reported it to the local police station, but the duty officer wasn’t sympathetic.. He even accused me of shooting my own cat!! Twat, I wasn’t best pleased!! | |||
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"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. " Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.  | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there. "That's a compelling argument  | |||
"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . ". What sort of punishment do you suggest op? | |||
"I just checked UK laws are different to here. It's not legal to kill them here either as far as I'm aware
Sure it is and I double checked, they are listed as a controllable pest in the UK, its legal to kill them in the UK too, just not pet cats.
The RSPCA in this case are probably confident it could not have been confused for or considered a pest.
even if it was a wild cat surely you catch them in a trap and kill them humanely .the council catching rats don't go around the city centre with an air rifle they catch them in traps or quick acting poison. not make them suffer with a air rifle pellet in its spine"
It's illegal, whether it was a pet or a feral cat. | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there. ". Save the hairless ape  | |||
"I have a friend who hates cat's with a passion but he would never harm one or let anyone else do so. Just because you don't like cat's does not excuse cruelty. We have two cat's and honestly if I found out someone intentionally Hurt them I think I would be willing to do time in jail to avenge them." . Well that makes sense | |||
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"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools "calling people who cant stand animal cruelty 'fools' ...what a nasty piece of work you are | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools "I wasn't one of them. I don't base any of my opinions on what the person above says  | |||
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"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them? it was a pet siamese cat and it's the RSPCA that want to prosecute the criminals so yes they can do something" The rspca cant prosecute anyone the cps does that | |||
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"I own a cat that was shot with an air rifle. (Prior to me owning him) The pellet lodged on his jaw without breaking it (freak luck) Where it sat for several years. When he had a fight and the "lump" got infected, I chose to have it removed, and it was at this point it was discovered to be a pellet from a rifle. The vet was amazed when it was removed and said he was extremely lucky that it didn't shatter his jaw. I hate cruelty to animals, why someone would do this is beyond me. The worry is, that these people (for people you may substitute the word scum) will progress to shooting bigger targets and have absolutely no conscience. I am not trying to mitigate the cats circumstances, but if they are caught, they need a proper deterrent, not just a slap on the wrist." I still believe they should be punished, even if they never progress to bigger targets. A considerable fine and a custodial sentence would be a good start. | |||
"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them? it was a pet siamese cat and it's the RSPCA that want to prosecute the criminals so yes they can do something The rspca cant prosecute anyone the cps does that" yet another more interested in correct law aspects than animal cruelty ffs they make me sick | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
calling people who cant stand animal cruelty 'fools' ...what a nasty
piece of work you are"If that’s what you took from my post I think you may need a chat with yourself also.. | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
I wasn't one of them. I don't base any of my opinions on what the person above says "Yep, I know.. | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
calling people who cant stand animal cruelty 'fools' ...what a nasty
piece of work you are
If that’s what you took from my post I think you may need a chat with yourself also.. "i rest my case | |||
"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them? it was a pet siamese cat and it's the RSPCA that want to prosecute the criminals so yes they can do something The rspca cant prosecute anyone the cps does that yet another more interested in correct law aspects than animal cruelty ffs they make me sick" Sorry, I corrected a poster above who said it's legal to kill a feral cat. I thought it was a pertinent correction to make. | |||
"I own a cat that was shot with an air rifle. (Prior to me owning him) The pellet lodged on his jaw without breaking it (freak luck) Where it sat for several years. When he had a fight and the "lump" got infected, I chose to have it removed, and it was at this point it was discovered to be a pellet from a rifle. The vet was amazed when it was removed and said he was extremely lucky that it didn't shatter his jaw. I hate cruelty to animals, why someone would do this is beyond me. The worry is, that these people (for people you may substitute the word scum) will progress to shooting bigger targets and have absolutely no conscience. I am not trying to mitigate the cats circumstances, but if they are caught, they need a proper deterrent, not just a slap on the wrist. I still believe they should be punished, even if they never progress to bigger targets. A considerable fine and a custodial sentence would be a good start. " The point I was trying to make was that the punishment should be enough to deterr them from even thinking about it again, let alone progressing. | |||
"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them? it was a pet siamese cat and it's the RSPCA that want to prosecute the criminals so yes they can do something The rspca cant prosecute anyone the cps does that yet another more interested in correct law aspects than animal cruelty ffs they make me sick Sorry, I corrected a poster above who said it's legal to kill a feral cat. I thought it was a pertinent correction to make. " didnt mean you sunshine theres one person who's more concerned with who actually prosecutes than any sympathy for the animals. | |||
"I own a cat that was shot with an air rifle. (Prior to me owning him) The pellet lodged on his jaw without breaking it (freak luck) Where it sat for several years. When he had a fight and the "lump" got infected, I chose to have it removed, and it was at this point it was discovered to be a pellet from a rifle. The vet was amazed when it was removed and said he was extremely lucky that it didn't shatter his jaw. I hate cruelty to animals, why someone would do this is beyond me. The worry is, that these people (for people you may substitute the word scum) will progress to shooting bigger targets and have absolutely no conscience. I am not trying to mitigate the cats circumstances, but if they are caught, they need a proper deterrent, not just a slap on the wrist. I still believe they should be punished, even if they never progress to bigger targets. A considerable fine and a custodial sentence would be a good start. The point I was trying to make was that the punishment should be enough to deterr them from even thinking about it again, let alone progressing." I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure it would deter them. I'm happy enough with punishing them. | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there. "It shows very little empathy for anything other than money in the grand scheme of things. | |||
"rspca might prosecute if found but the criminals then laugh at the sentence .." A neighbour had a life time ban from owning animals, 2 years after the ban was given to him they had another dog. There is no funding to police these bans. | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools "What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason. | |||
"rspca might prosecute if found but the criminals then laugh at the sentence .. A neighbour had a life time ban from owning animals, 2 years after the ban was given to him they had another dog. There is no funding to police these bans." Agreed. I think it's a mixture of lack of funding and apathy on behalf of the police. Horses routinely being abused for sulky racing and nothing is done to the owners. | |||
"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them?" What?! | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason. "If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it.. I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture.. | |||
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"Whilst I agree it’s not the done thing to shoot them slowly with an air gun, a thought for all the cat lovers...27 million small birds are estimated to be killed by cats every year!!! "No, really, 27 million poor wee birds caught and killed by mans pets which are kept for his own gratification, that’s an outrage!! | |||
"Whilst I agree it’s not the done thing to shoot them slowly with an air gun, a thought for all the cat lovers...27 million small birds are estimated to be killed by cats every year!!!
No, really, 27 million poor wee birds caught and killed by mans pets which are kept for his own gratification, that’s an outrage!! "We heard you the first time  | |||
"Whilst I agree it’s not the done thing to shoot them slowly with an air gun, a thought for all the cat lovers...27 million small birds are estimated to be killed by cats every year!!! ". There cruel evil twisted fuckers, just give me a room and those cats!. | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools ". It's a dog eat dog kill cat massacre birds world we live in | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
"Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it. | |||
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"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
"You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat.. | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat.. "You're harbouring a lot of pent up feelings right now man. No offence intended, but you need to let it go, whatever it is that's eating you right now. Let it out in some positive way, or let it go. Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up? | |||
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"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat..
You're harbouring a lot of pent up feelings right now man. No offence intended, but you need to let it go, whatever it is that's eating you right now. Let it out in some positive way, or let it go.
Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up? "You’re back? Zero pent up anger here..it’s nothing got to do with the sheep/wolf thing. It’s the sheep thing where everybody just follows someone’s else’s outrage, usually from a FB post. So the usual propaganda led people to think that soldier F was correct to murder innocent civilians and sheep followed and agreed, then there was outrage over a cat getting killed.. You see now how morals are twisted? | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat..
You're harbouring a lot of pent up feelings right now man. No offence intended, but you need to let it go, whatever it is that's eating you right now. Let it out in some positive way, or let it go.
Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up?
You’re back? Zero pent up anger here..it’s nothing got to do with the sheep/wolf thing.
It’s the sheep thing where everybody just follows someone’s else’s outrage, usually from a FB post. So the usual propaganda led people to think that soldier F was correct to murder innocent civilians and sheep followed and agreed, then there was outrage over a cat getting killed.. You see now how morals are twisted?"I don't share your view on the whole Soldier F thing, I'm not prepared to discuss it with you either, because you've proven you're incapable of reasoned debate. So I guess I'm not a wolf like you. *Ghengis Hypocriticaly Bleats and wanders off in search of some ewes* | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat..
You're harbouring a lot of pent up feelings right now man. No offence intended, but you need to let it go, whatever it is that's eating you right now. Let it out in some positive way, or let it go.
Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up?
You’re back? Zero pent up anger here..it’s nothing got to do with the sheep/wolf thing.
It’s the sheep thing where everybody just follows someone’s else’s outrage, usually from a FB post. So the usual propaganda led people to think that soldier F was correct to murder innocent civilians and sheep followed and agreed, then there was outrage over a cat getting killed.. You see now how morals are twisted?
I don't share your view on the whole Soldier F thing, I'm not prepared to discuss it with you either, because you've proven you're incapable of reasoned debate. So I guess I'm not a wolf like you.
*Ghengis Hypocriticaly Bleats and wanders off in search of some ewes*"Once again, there’s no mention of a wolf, you must of had your blinkers on again when you skimmed by that bit.. No that’s fine, I was never looking for a debate, was just pointing out morally twisted hypocrisy, and thank you for that. | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat..
You're harbouring a lot of pent up feelings right now man. No offence intended, but you need to let it go, whatever it is that's eating you right now. Let it out in some positive way, or let it go.
Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up?
You’re back? Zero pent up anger here..it’s nothing got to do with the sheep/wolf thing.
It’s the sheep thing where everybody just follows someone’s else’s outrage, usually from a FB post. So the usual propaganda led people to think that soldier F was correct to murder innocent civilians and sheep followed and agreed, then there was outrage over a cat getting killed.. You see now how morals are twisted?
I don't share your view on the whole Soldier F thing, I'm not prepared to discuss it with you either, because you've proven you're incapable of reasoned debate. So I guess I'm not a wolf like you.
*Ghengis Hypocriticaly Bleats and wanders off in search of some ewes*
Once again, there’s no mention of a wolf, you must of had your blinkers on again when you skimmed by that bit..
No that’s fine, I was never looking for a debate, was just pointing out morally twisted hypocrisy, and thank you for that. "Whatever makes you happy | |||
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"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat..
You're harbouring a lot of pent up feelings right now man. No offence intended, but you need to let it go, whatever it is that's eating you right now. Let it out in some positive way, or let it go.
Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up?
You’re back? Zero pent up anger here..it’s nothing got to do with the sheep/wolf thing.
It’s the sheep thing where everybody just follows someone’s else’s outrage, usually from a FB post. So the usual propaganda led people to think that soldier F was correct to murder innocent civilians and sheep followed and agreed, then there was outrage over a cat getting killed.. You see now how morals are twisted?
I don't share your view on the whole Soldier F thing, I'm not prepared to discuss it with you either, because you've proven you're incapable of reasoned debate. So I guess I'm not a wolf like you.
*Ghengis Hypocriticaly Bleats and wanders off in search of some ewes*
Once again, there’s no mention of a wolf, you must of had your blinkers on again when you skimmed by that bit..
No that’s fine, I was never looking for a debate, was just pointing out morally twisted hypocrisy, and thank you for that.
Whatever makes you happy"You’re back again? Oh I wouldn’t say I’m happy, will probably be more content when they convict whoever shot the cat and also when soldier F is rotting behind bars, see that’s called morally balanced | |||
"This thread screams hypocrisy.. it’s wasn't that long ago many here was saying soldier F should not be charged for shooting innocent civilians in the back.. go have a chat with yourselves if ye are gonna continue getting your education from FB and outraged because the person above you did.. fools
What has soldier F got to do with torturing animals? Take that argument elsewhere. Its irrelevant to this conversation and you're being pretty rude for no reason.
If a thread highlights morally twisted sheep then that is the perfect place to take it..
I’m not here to debate, I just presumed some would have a lightbulb moment and realise the bigger picture..
Bigger picture? It's a post about morons torturing animals. Sadly it's an all too regular part of everyday life. Not really very contributory to the bigger picture. Not related to Soldier F in any way. Just another sad symptom of a broken society. Much like War, religious tension, civil rights, hatred, intolerance, or injustice. Just a symptom. Only were not talking about the one that you want to talk about. So Give it a rest with that topic, or go start a thread on it.
You’re probably right, best to let the grown up, non FB educated people discuss the bigger picture, and let the sheep be outraged over a cat..
You're harbouring a lot of pent up feelings right now man. No offence intended, but you need to let it go, whatever it is that's eating you right now. Let it out in some positive way, or let it go.
Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up?
You’re back? Zero pent up anger here..it’s nothing got to do with the sheep/wolf thing.
It’s the sheep thing where everybody just follows someone’s else’s outrage, usually from a FB post. So the usual propaganda led people to think that soldier F was correct to murder innocent civilians and sheep followed and agreed, then there was outrage over a cat getting killed.. You see now how morals are twisted?
I don't share your view on the whole Soldier F thing, I'm not prepared to discuss it with you either, because you've proven you're incapable of reasoned debate. So I guess I'm not a wolf like you.
*Ghengis Hypocriticaly Bleats and wanders off in search of some ewes*
Once again, there’s no mention of a wolf, you must of had your blinkers on again when you skimmed by that bit..
No that’s fine, I was never looking for a debate, was just pointing out morally twisted hypocrisy, and thank you for that.
Whatever makes you happy
You’re back again? Oh I wouldn’t say I’m happy, will probably be more content when they convict whoever shot the cat and also when soldier F is rotting behind bars, see that’s called morally balanced ". It's easy to be morally balanced when you don't have to do any actual fighting but just sit on a keyboard and virtue signal. I don't blame you, what went on in that war was awful and you rarely hear anything from the other side, especially when your in the bubble your in, it's just all, he killed, they bombed, innocents, blah blah. Anyhow, the cat died, it got shot twice by some dicks with low morality and nothing else better to do, the end. | |||
"Can the RSPCA do anything though? Cats are classed as vermin and you are allowed kill them? it was a pet siamese cat and it's the RSPCA that want to prosecute the criminals so yes they can do something The rspca cant prosecute anyone the cps does that yet another more interested in correct law aspects than animal cruelty ffs they make me sick" K if your interested in animal cruelty why are you supporting the destruction of our wildlife in favour of some humans having an animal as a pet? | |||
". Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up? " Rips the bear to pieces i mean it was so reliable the dogs win we made a sport out of it | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.
That's a compelling argument "It is i mean we're happy with the deaths of millions on our hands but q cat Jesus end of the world | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.
That's a compelling argument
It is i mean we're happy with the deaths of millions on our hands but q cat Jesus end of the world"Is this the "we shouldn't care about that because worse things happen" argument? And who, exactly, is happy with the death of millions? | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.
That's a compelling argument
It is i mean we're happy with the deaths of millions on our hands but q cat Jesus end of the world
Is this the "we shouldn't care about that because worse things happen" argument?
And who, exactly, is happy with the death of millions? "it just shows how much Carter cares about animals suffering. the fact that he's posted at this time means he has probably been drinking(im at work) I've been watching Carter on quite a few threads he joins them just to argue and try to intimidate people don't fall For It Little Miss Sunshine he is best just ignored it doesn't intimidate me he's a clown | |||
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"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.
That's a compelling argument
It is i mean we're happy with the deaths of millions on our hands but q cat Jesus end of the world
Is this the "we shouldn't care about that because worse things happen" argument?
And who, exactly, is happy with the death of millions?
it just shows how much Carter cares about animals suffering. the fact that he's posted at this time means he has probably been drinking(im at work) I've been watching Carter on quite a few threads he joins them just to argue and try to intimidate people don't fall For It Little Miss Sunshine he is best just ignored it doesn't intimidate me he's a clown"I hope he's not Ronald McDonald as I'd hate to boycott his restaurants | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.
That's a compelling argument
It is i mean we're happy with the deaths of millions on our hands but q cat Jesus end of the world
Is this the "we shouldn't care about that because worse things happen" argument?
And who, exactly, is happy with the death of millions?
it just shows how much Carter cares about animals suffering. the fact that he's posted at this time means he has probably been drinking(im at work) I've been watching Carter on quite a few threads he joins them just to argue and try to intimidate people don't fall For It Little Miss Sunshine he is best just ignored it doesn't intimidate me he's a clown I hope he's not Ronald McDonald as I'd hate to boycott his restaurants"very observant mr pat mustard . Actually ive never been in a McDonalds..In Preston at 5am central one gets full with night clubbers, I feel sorry for staff at that time, dozens shouting &fights starting | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.
That's a compelling argument
It is i mean we're happy with the deaths of millions on our hands but q cat Jesus end of the world
Is this the "we shouldn't care about that because worse things happen" argument?
And who, exactly, is happy with the death of millions?
it just shows how much Carter cares about animals suffering. the fact that he's posted at this time means he has probably been drinking(im at work) I've been watching Carter on quite a few threads he joins them just to argue and try to intimidate people don't fall For It Little Miss Sunshine he is best just ignored it doesn't intimidate me he's a clown I hope he's not Ronald McDonald as I'd hate to boycott his restaurants"That made me laugh lol | |||
". Never liked the whole sheep/wolf thing. What does the Wolf do when the bear rucks up? Rips the bear to pieces i mean it was so reliable the dogs win we made a sport out of it" One wolf vs one Grizzly. Not a pack of dogs taking on a weak, unhealthy, malnourished bear in a pit. Good point though. | |||
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"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . "agreed but to ask another question they put down dogs that bite but what about vicious cats | |||
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"I’d like to do the same to the spineless twats that do stuff to people’s pets " And the difference between you and others suggesting the same is what? A real bizarre response by many in this thread. I suppose human life is not of any more value to some in here, but to think some so called animal lovers would do the same thing to a person displays they are no better than the perpetrators of this awful action. Some need to cop on a bit. | |||
"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . agreed but to ask another question they put down dogs that bite but what about vicious cats "if vicious cats need to be put down theyre trapped and .its done humanely with injections. or do you know a vet who walks round shooting them with an air rifle in the spine | |||
"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . agreed but to ask another question they put down dogs that bite but what about vicious cats if vicious cats need to be put down
theyre trapped and .its done humanely with injections. or do you know a vet who walks round shooting them with an air rifle in the spine"not saying that at all you misunderstand just saying i never heard of the dangerous cats laws is all shooting cats with air rifles is plain sick | |||
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"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . agreed but to ask another question they put down dogs that bite but what about vicious cats if vicious cats need to be put down
theyre trapped and .its done humanely with injections. or do you know a vet who walks round shooting them with an air rifle in the spinenot saying that at all you misunderstand just saying i never heard of the dangerous cats laws is all shooting cats with air rifles is plain sick"there seems to be debate on whether ferral cats can be legally killed but my initial point was there is no proper deterrent for killing ANY pets,as someone else stated .. In USA you go to jail for animal cruelty. .. and yes your right it is plain sick | |||
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"This disgusts me. Since we've had our little cat we have 3 visiting Toms, which is a nuisance, but they are somebody's pet, so wouldn't dream of harming them in anyway. She was dumped in our area along with her 3 kittens, who she had to feed and turned up in our garden. There was evidence that she had killed birds, food chain, she had no choice, she had to feed herself to feed her kittens. She is now living a princess existence with us and we have rehomed, what were, her feral kittens." The vast majority of tom cats are wild, so maybe give RSPCA a shout if they keep hanging around.. also, might be an idea to havevuour cat spayed.. | |||
"This disgusts me. Since we've had our little cat we have 3 visiting Toms, which is a nuisance, but they are somebody's pet, so wouldn't dream of harming them in anyway. She was dumped in our area along with her 3 kittens, who she had to feed and turned up in our garden. There was evidence that she had killed birds, food chain, she had no choice, she had to feed herself to feed her kittens. She is now living a princess existence with us and we have rehomed, what were, her feral kittens. The vast majority of tom cats are wild, so maybe give RSPCA a shout if they keep hanging around.. also, might be an idea to havevuour cat spayed.. " Thank you. Yes she has been spayed. One of them, she is quite fond of and will tolerate him being in the garden, the other 3, she is frightened of. | |||
"This disgusts me. Since we've had our little cat we have 3 visiting Toms, which is a nuisance, but they are somebody's pet, so wouldn't dream of harming them in anyway. She was dumped in our area along with her 3 kittens, who she had to feed and turned up in our garden. There was evidence that she had killed birds, food chain, she had no choice, she had to feed herself to feed her kittens. She is now living a princess existence with us and we have rehomed, what were, her feral kittens. The vast majority of tom cats are wild, so maybe give RSPCA a shout if they keep hanging around.. also, might be an idea to havevuour cat spayed.. Thank you. Yes she has been spayed. One of them, she is quite fond of and will tolerate him being in the garden, the other 3, she is frightened of. "The other *2*, I should have said | |||
"Have just googled "Cat shot in Blackburn", and learned even the Vet was shaking and angry. THE PROFESSIONAL VET WAS ANGRY . There is cctv showing the cat was injured at 12pm on a Friday in March. So the police may be taking it seriously ..(or they'd be no reason to mention the cctv presumably.) Worse in the piece (Telegraph)is a picture of Lulu,she was absolutely gorgeous..I hooe the RSPCA brings a prosecution." How does the fact that it was a nice looking cat make it worse? I don't think it does, it's still a shit thing to do regardless of what the cat looks like. Comments like that make me wonder would anyone care as much if it was something less cute looking like a snake or a bearded dragon? | |||
I just can't get my head around how anyone could consider that fun.
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"I'm currently handrearing a kitten. Now 3 weeks old, I've had her since she was an hour and a half old, cold and wet, just 70grams. 2 hourly feeds for the first 2 weeks now 3 hourly. To think all this time and effort, could be erased by some spineless twat getting his rocks off playing with weapons, is seriously depressing.
I just can't get my head around how anyone could consider that fun.
"Aah, how lovely, lots of hard work for you, but worth all the effort. What happened to the mum? | |||
"Have just googled "Cat shot in Blackburn", and learned even the Vet was shaking and angry. THE PROFESSIONAL VET WAS ANGRY . There is cctv showing the cat was injured at 12pm on a Friday in March. So the police may be taking it seriously ..(or they'd be no reason to mention the cctv presumably.) Worse in the piece (Telegraph)is a picture of Lulu,she was absolutely gorgeous..I hooe the RSPCA brings a prosecution. How does the fact that it was a nice looking cat make it worse? I don't think it does, it's still a shit thing to do regardless of what the cat looks like. Comments like that make me wonder would anyone care as much if it was something less cute looking like a snake or a bearded dragon?" i didnt state (if you can read) it was worse because it was cute i stated it was worse as there is a picture ,which brings it home to right thinking people ,not just a paragraph in a paper. Was she not allowed to be cute just so you can give an opinion. | |||
"The LancashireTelegraph even has images of the x-ray showing the pellet in the cat, and the pellet in a specimen tube after it has been removed " Have just seen them..looks horrific.. and apparently shot at midday too..so in broad daylight . As i was trying to emphasize in my original post .. there is little deterrent when caught.. | |||
"The LancashireTelegraph even has images of the x-ray showing the pellet in the cat, and the pellet in a specimen tube after it has been removed Have just seen them..looks horrific.. and apparently shot at midday too..so in broad daylight . As i was trying to emphasize in my original post .. there is little deterrent when caught.." As for a lot of these nasty crimes.. | |||
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"Tired of nothing being done about incidents like this. Me and my ex partner rescued a beautiful husky from the back of a disgusting backyard a few years back. Took it to vets and was told it was severely ill. Dickhead next door actually came kicking off for his dog back. He didn't come a second time...." Gosh! People like that should be banned from owning animals, but I suppose that would be difficult to police. | |||
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"Tired of nothing being done about incidents like this. Me and my ex partner rescued a beautiful husky from the back of a disgusting backyard a few years back. Took it to vets and was told it was severely ill. Dickhead next door actually came kicking off for his dog back. He didn't come a second time.... Gosh! People like that should be banned from owning animals, but I suppose that would be difficult to police." Very true. Couldn't believe he had the audacity. Said he would 'reimburse what we spent' and '..get my dog out here'. Yeah right, that was never going to happen. | |||
"I’d like to do the same to the spineless twats that do stuff to people’s pets And the difference between you and others suggesting the same is what? A real bizarre response by many in this thread. I suppose human life is not of any more value to some in here, but to think some so called animal lovers would do the same thing to a person displays they are no better than the perpetrators of this awful action. Some need to cop on a bit." Of course we'd never wish to hurt another person,but to suggest we are no better than the perpetrators of a violent crime, whether it be about a human or animal is a stupid thing to say. It can be fine to sit and use logic and reasoning, however most people know that being an emotional species can sometimes drive us into poor thoughts and poor mental health. If someone had not hypothetically killed my cat on purpose, I hypothetically wouldn't be think of spooning their eyes out with hot spoons. | |||
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"I own a cat that was shot with an air rifle. (Prior to me owning him) The pellet lodged on his jaw without breaking it (freak luck) Where it sat for several years. When he had a fight and the "lump" got infected, I chose to have it removed, and it was at this point it was discovered to be a pellet from a rifle. The vet was amazed when it was removed and said he was extremely lucky that it didn't shatter his jaw. I hate cruelty to animals, why someone would do this is beyond me. The worry is, that these people (for people you may substitute the word scum) will progress to shooting bigger targets and have absolutely no conscience. I am not trying to mitigate the cats circumstances, but if they are caught, they need a proper deterrent, not just a slap on the wrist. I still believe they should be punished, even if they never progress to bigger targets. A considerable fine and a custodial sentence would be a good start. The point I was trying to make was that the punishment should be enough to deterr them from even thinking about it again, let alone progressing." Harsh punishments dont work as deterrents | |||
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"Someone local to us was shooting cats, and no-one was doing anything. We didn't get to know about it until our cat was shot, luckily no serious (life threatening) injuries. When I got to know about this dick hanging out his bedroom window shooting at cats in his garden I went and had a word. I mentioned I would be a bit miffed if I heard of any more cats being shot...and I'd come knocking on his door. No more cats have been shot. I'm not sure the "local lunatic" tag would stick if they could see me curled up on the sofa with our two cats on top of me, but if it means no more animals get hurt they can call me what they like. "This weeks thrilling episode of shit that never happened | |||
"Just goes to show the value human society places on animal life. I may eat them, but there's no need to disrespect the animal in the process. No excuse for forgetting where your meal comes from and that a life was sacrificed to sustain your own. No forgiveness, acceptance or empathy from me, if you knowingly kill for fun (that includes you hunting enthusiasts), or mistreat to entertain. Needless, barbaric savagery. Sometimes Surprises me that society does place so much value on animal life, when there is so much human suffering out there.
That's a compelling argument
It is i mean we're happy with the deaths of millions on our hands but q cat Jesus end of the world
Is this the "we shouldn't care about that because worse things happen" argument?
And who, exactly, is happy with the death of millions?
it just shows how much Carter cares about animals suffering. the fact that he's posted at this time means he has probably been drinking(im at work) I've been watching Carter on quite a few threads he joins them just to argue and try to intimidate people don't fall For It Little Miss Sunshine he is best just ignored it doesn't intimidate me he's a clown"hes just made my point for me. Absolutely nothing to add constructively. just wants to shit stir ignore him | |||
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"I am a animal lover of all types including wildlife, however I had a thread on here about a month ago about animal cruelty. Sadly most people didn't seem to care or made stupid I'll informed remarks.." Yes, I remember your post about the duck being killed with a sling shot wasn't it? | |||
"I am a animal lover of all types including wildlife, however I had a thread on here about a month ago about animal cruelty. Sadly most people didn't seem to care or made stupid I'll informed remarks..Yes, I remember your post about the duck being killed with a sling shot wasn't it? " swan? | |||
" its the ones with the air rifles shooting pet cats who are vermin" 100% and if I found anyone up to that kind of thing in my area I think they'd be a little bit surprised about how just how awful their quality of life will become. | |||
"I am a animal lover of all types including wildlife, however I had a thread on here about a month ago about animal cruelty. Sadly most people didn't seem to care or made stupid I'll informed remarks..Yes, I remember your post about the duck being killed with a sling shot wasn't it? swan?" I'm not sure, I think I remember Gabrielle saying something about seeing it happen at a pond where they live, I've signed a petition a few weeks ago for all air rifles to be licensed as Swans being shot in the head is becoming more frequent. I don't know whether this will do anything but at least people can try to do something about it. | |||
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"Someone local to us was shooting cats, and no-one was doing anything. We didn't get to know about it until our cat was shot, luckily no serious (life threatening) injuries. When I got to know about this dick hanging out his bedroom window shooting at cats in his garden I went and had a word. I mentioned I would be a bit miffed if I heard of any more cats being shot...and I'd come knocking on his door. No more cats have been shot. I'm not sure the "local lunatic" tag would stick if they could see me curled up on the sofa with our two cats on top of me, but if it means no more animals get hurt they can call me what they like.
This weeks thrilling episode of shit that never happened"Yeah dude, I make up shit on the forums just so people I don't know, and will probably never meet, will think I'm a great guy. Now run along and play nice with the other kiddies, there's a good boy, the adults are talking here. | |||
"Lulu,a Siamese,in Blackburn Lancashire,was shot in head 18 months ago, was shot again with an air rifle in spine, was sadly put down due to distress.When will the courts start making an example of these cowards instead of giving slaps on the wrist. It pisses me off . "Some people are so vile Hugs xx | |||
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"I’d like to do the same to the spineless twats that do stuff to people’s pets And the difference between you and others suggesting the same is what? A real bizarre response by many in this thread. I suppose human life is not of any more value to some in here, but to think some so called animal lovers would do the same thing to a person displays they are no better than the perpetrators of this awful action. Some need to cop on a bit. Of course we'd never wish to hurt another person,but to suggest we are no better than the perpetrators of a violent crime, whether it be about a human or animal is a stupid thing to say. It can be fine to sit and use logic and reasoning, however most people know that being an emotional species can sometimes drive us into poor thoughts and poor mental health. If someone had not hypothetically killed my cat on purpose, I hypothetically wouldn't be think of spooning their eyes out with hot spoons." How is it stupid? If one responds in the same way then it's definitely no better, in fact being a human being a person of same species then yes I'd say they are no more than an animal and with little more than just animalistic instincts. We see it happening every weekend in the cities and I'd say a few people in here would say the same thing. And I'll stand by what I said, you're no different if that's how you'd treat the perpetrator. What's inside a man's heart comes out at times like this. Some is just plain ugly in here too and they've had time to think about it. Imagine if spontaneously without control. | |||
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"I’d like to do the same to the spineless twats that do stuff to people’s pets And the difference between you and others suggesting the same is what? A real bizarre response by many in this thread. I suppose human life is not of any more value to some in here, but to think some so called animal lovers would do the same thing to a person displays they are no better than the perpetrators of this awful action. Some need to cop on a bit. Of course we'd never wish to hurt another person,but to suggest we are no better than the perpetrators of a violent crime, whether it be about a human or animal is a stupid thing to say. It can be fine to sit and use logic and reasoning, however most people know that being an emotional species can sometimes drive us into poor thoughts and poor mental health. If someone had not hypothetically killed my cat on purpose, I hypothetically wouldn't be think of spooning their eyes out with hot spoons. How is it stupid? If one responds in the same way then it's definitely no better, in fact being a human being a person of same species then yes I'd say they are no more than an animal and with little more than just animalistic instincts. We see it happening every weekend in the cities and I'd say a few people in here would say the same thing. And I'll stand by what I said, you're no different if that's how you'd treat the perpetrator. What's inside a man's heart comes out at times like this. Some is just plain ugly in here too and they've had time to think about it. Imagine if spontaneously without control." If a perpetrator decides to make an illogical choice knowing there will be repercussions, they unfortunately cannot always expect a logical result. It's pretty simple,don't do something you know is wrong, especially when it is designed to be hurtful, then expect a reasoned response. You might class it as some kind of animalistic behaviour, however humans are very complicated in the psyche, pain and loss can affect judgement. I'm not going to come back to my house to heat up spoons for eye gouging then to find the perpetrator,but my initial rage may not be quantified so easily, especially if I witness this sort of act,regardless of the species. Some people just 'break' when confronted by something traumatic,that might sound like a sad fact but think of it like shock,in the emotional sense. You can say what you think.If you think I'm the same as a person that's just attempted or has killed my cat out of twisted fun that's fine. Then I'm quite happy to say that all I wanted was to lay down on the couch cuddled up with my beloved companion. | |||
"Discusting some people but doesnt surprise me i had 2 cats and my neighbours found it funny to chuck my eldest cat into a passing car he sadly died there excuse was that it was funny to watch. They now hound my other cat all rspca and the police said was there was nothing they could do. Shows what the world has come to." Jesus, that's horrific. I don't know how I'd respond to something like that | |||
"I'm currently handrearing a kitten. Now 3 weeks old, I've had her since she was an hour and a half old, cold and wet, just 70grams. 2 hourly feeds for the first 2 weeks now 3 hourly. To think all this time and effort, could be erased by some spineless twat getting his rocks off playing with weapons, is seriously depressing.
I just can't get my head around how anyone could consider that fun.
Aah, how lovely, lots of hard work for you, but worth all the effort. What happened to the mum?"Rejected her thanks to moronic humans that cant follow simple advice. | |||
"Discusting some people but doesnt surprise me i had 2 cats and my neighbours found it funny to chuck my eldest cat into a passing car he sadly died there excuse was that it was funny to watch. They now hound my other cat all rspca and the police said was there was nothing they could do. Shows what the world has come to." Some people are just fucked up and heartless. | |||
"I’d like to do the same to the spineless twats that do stuff to people’s pets And the difference between you and others suggesting the same is what? A real bizarre response by many in this thread. I suppose human life is not of any more value to some in here, but to think some so called animal lovers would do the same thing to a person displays they are no better than the perpetrators of this awful action. Some need to cop on a bit. Of course we'd never wish to hurt another person,but to suggest we are no better than the perpetrators of a violent crime, whether it be about a human or animal is a stupid thing to say. It can be fine to sit and use logic and reasoning, however most people know that being an emotional species can sometimes drive us into poor thoughts and poor mental health. If someone had not hypothetically killed my cat on purpose, I hypothetically wouldn't be think of spooning their eyes out with hot spoons. How is it stupid? If one responds in the same way then it's definitely no better, in fact being a human being a person of same species then yes I'd say they are no more than an animal and with little more than just animalistic instincts. We see it happening every weekend in the cities and I'd say a few people in here would say the same thing. And I'll stand by what I said, you're no different if that's how you'd treat the perpetrator. What's inside a man's heart comes out at times like this. Some is just plain ugly in here too and they've had time to think about it. Imagine if spontaneously without control. If a perpetrator decides to make an illogical choice knowing there will be repercussions, they unfortunately cannot always expect a logical result. It's pretty simple,don't do something you know is wrong, especially when it is designed to be hurtful, then expect a reasoned response. You might class it as some kind of animalistic behaviour, however humans are very complicated in the psyche, pain and loss can affect judgement. I'm not going to come back to my house to heat up spoons for eye gouging then to find the perpetrator,but my initial rage may not be quantified so easily, especially if I witness this sort of act,regardless of the species. Some people just 'break' when confronted by something traumatic,that might sound like a sad fact but think of it like shock,in the emotional sense. You can say what you think.If you think I'm the same as a person that's just attempted or has killed my cat out of twisted fun that's fine. Then I'm quite happy to say that all I wanted was to lay down on the couch cuddled up with my beloved companion. " So let me get this right, you're saying it's their responsibility that you decide to do decide to inflict gbh on them? Yeah that makes complete sense... So by your own words... "simple,don't do something you know is wrong, especially when it is designed to be hurtful, then expect a reasoned response." So you deem doing the same back to that person is a reasonable response? Think you just confirmed what I said in my earlier remark. | |||
"I’d like to do the same to the spineless twats that do stuff to people’s pets And the difference between you and others suggesting the same is what? A real bizarre response by many in this thread. I suppose human life is not of any more value to some in here, but to think some so called animal lovers would do the same thing to a person displays they are no better than the perpetrators of this awful action. Some need to cop on a bit. Of course we'd never wish to hurt another person,but to suggest we are no better than the perpetrators of a violent crime, whether it be about a human or animal is a stupid thing to say. It can be fine to sit and use logic and reasoning, however most people know that being an emotional species can sometimes drive us into poor thoughts and poor mental health. If someone had not hypothetically killed my cat on purpose, I hypothetically wouldn't be think of spooning their eyes out with hot spoons. How is it stupid? If one responds in the same way then it's definitely no better, in fact being a human being a person of same species then yes I'd say they are no more than an animal and with little more than just animalistic instincts. We see it happening every weekend in the cities and I'd say a few people in here would say the same thing. And I'll stand by what I said, you're no different if that's how you'd treat the perpetrator. What's inside a man's heart comes out at times like this. Some is just plain ugly in here too and they've had time to think about it. Imagine if spontaneously without control. If a perpetrator decides to make an illogical choice knowing there will be repercussions, they unfortunately cannot always expect a logical result. It's pretty simple,don't do something you know is wrong, especially when it is designed to be hurtful, then expect a reasoned response. You might class it as some kind of animalistic behaviour, however humans are very complicated in the psyche, pain and loss can affect judgement. I'm not going to come back to my house to heat up spoons for eye gouging then to find the perpetrator,but my initial rage may not be quantified so easily, especially if I witness this sort of act,regardless of the species. Some people just 'break' when confronted by something traumatic,that might sound like a sad fact but think of it like shock,in the emotional sense. You can say what you think.If you think I'm the same as a person that's just attempted or has killed my cat out of twisted fun that's fine. Then I'm quite happy to say that all I wanted was to lay down on the couch cuddled up with my beloved companion. So let me get this right, you're saying it's their responsibility that you decide to do decide to inflict gbh on them? Yeah that makes complete sense... So by your own words... "simple,don't do something you know is wrong, especially when it is designed to be hurtful, then expect a reasoned response." So you deem doing the same back to that person is a reasonable response? Think you just confirmed what I said in my earlier remark. " well done for cherrypicking something to suit your narrative. Read in full. Thanks. | |||
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"I'm currently handrearing a kitten. Now 3 weeks old, I've had her since she was an hour and a half old, cold and wet, just 70grams. 2 hourly feeds for the first 2 weeks now 3 hourly. To think all this time and effort, could be erased by some spineless twat getting his rocks off playing with weapons, is seriously depressing.
I just can't get my head around how anyone could consider that fun.
Aah, how lovely, lots of hard work for you, but worth all the effort. What happened to the mum?
Rejected her thanks to moronic humans that cant follow simple advice. "Aah bless her, thank goodness she has you to look after her. | |||
"I don't agree with any cruelty, animals should be treated humanely even when being killed. Obviously family pets should only be put down by a vet. However it's always a beloved pet, beloved enough to be chucked out the house when people go to work or bed. When we had chickens we often had cats trying to attack them. So it's ok for your pet to do as it pleases but it's not ok for my pets to wander round my garden." My cat is never outside when we are not here and sleeps inside also. | |||
"I don't agree with any cruelty, animals should be treated humanely even when being killed. Obviously family pets should only be put down by a vet. However it's always a beloved pet, beloved enough to be chucked out the house when people go to work or bed. When we had chickens we often had cats trying to attack them. So it's ok for your pet to do as it pleases but it's not ok for my pets to wander round my garden." Are your chickens actually pets? I wont lecture you on free-range chicken or free range pussy 
but if you live in an area and know there will be domestic and natural predators(lets sy suburbia), surely you would monitor your chickens or have then in an enclosed pen?
I dont let my cat out due to my location, and the fact she hates going outside without me anyway. | |||
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"2 off the worst sins a human being can commit cruelty to children and cruelty to animals people who commit acts of cruelty to the latter have deep and disturbing psychological problems " What??? Cruelty to a pig is worse than cruelty to the elderly?? This animal thing is really getting out of hand at this stage.. | |||
"2 off the worst sins a human being can commit cruelty to children and cruelty to animals people who commit acts of cruelty to the latter have deep and disturbing psychological problems " The links between animal cruelty starts with animals, those who become fixated then feel the need to get to another level. I was a boy,I picked insects apart, it appeared they did not show any emotion(perhaps if they did I would have stopped sooner), I'll admit I learned from them( I believe I was never doing it for torture fun, or just to exert mastery over another species). Later in years I'd never do anything like that, in fact, they are my favorite species to really adore. however I will again stress,if someone wants to inflict pain or torture on my emotionally bonded companion, then you may face my unquantified rage. I do not believe this original OP is about some little schoolchildren just being little boys in a false wonderment exploring nature(wrongly), I think they bought a gun and knew then can fire it at something for maiming or killing, and with no purpose of the killing(lets say for food, or protection of livestock, then they have only acted out of torture/snuff-porn startings) | |||
"I don't agree with any cruelty, animals should be treated humanely even when being killed. Obviously family pets should only be put down by a vet. However it's always a beloved pet, beloved enough to be chucked out the house when people go to work or bed. When we had chickens we often had cats trying to attack them. So it's ok for your pet to do as it pleases but it's not ok for my pets to wander round my garden. Are your chickens actually pets? I wont lecture you on free-range chicken or free range pussy
but if you live in an area and know there will be domestic and natural predators(lets sy suburbia), surely you would monitor your chickens or have then in an enclosed pen?
I dont let my cat out due to my location, and the fact she hates going outside without me anyway."During the time the chickens were out, there was no natural predators. I did monitor the chickens, that's why they didn't actually get attacked but it came close a couple of times. Why should I have to monitor my pets/animals so that someone else can let their pet run free with no consideration to anyone else? | |||
