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"Well John Terry’s lost his captaincy again but is it too early. After all he hasn’t been convicted yet and its innocent till proven guilty. " presumed innocent - theres a huge difference  | |||
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"i really dont think he is suffering to much "I'm certain he doesn't care in the slightest. There's no chance he'll get found guilty anyway. Multi millionaires don't usually get prosecuted for anything. Remember when Steven Gerrard was caught on CCTV beating up that DJ for playing the wrong music? He was pretty much bang to rights, but was found not guilty. The UK has the best justice system money can buy. | |||
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"Well John Terry’s lost his captaincy again but is it too early. After all he hasn’t been convicted yet and its innocent till proven guilty. " I am disappointed he didn't man up and admit to what he said. But he didn't admit or seem to care about cheating on a friend with his partner. He is an excuse for a man in my eyes and isn't fit to lead. | |||
"As usual, the FA have fucked things up, again. Terry has retained the captaincy since October when the allegations against him first surfaced. There is no way England can go to a major football tournament with a captain due to answer a charge of racism a week after the tournament closes. The matter has to be dealt with before Euro 2012 starts, and if it can't be sorted by then, Terry should have voluntarily stepped down in the name of the sport, England and his own good name. If he'd have said, "I resign the captaincy on the grounds that retaining it will harm the England team, but I refute the allegations against me and will clear my good name," and THEN been proven innocent, he'd have been held up as a fookin messiah by the media. I also question the motives of a foreign manager who consistently picks bad teams and makes duff decisions for England but has a proven managerial track record elsewhere." Terry shouldn't be captain for the simple reason that he's no longer assured of a place in the starting eleven. I'm not Rooney's biggest fan, but he, Joe Hart and Ashley Cole are the only players who are. Therefore, it should really be one of those three. Rooney misses the first 2 games and Ashley Cole is a major prick, so I reckon it should be Hart, despite his obvious inexperience. | |||
"As usual, the FA have fucked things up, again. Terry has retained the captaincy since October when the allegations against him first surfaced. There is no way England can go to a major football tournament with a captain due to answer a charge of racism a week after the tournament closes. The matter has to be dealt with before Euro 2012 starts, and if it can't be sorted by then, Terry should have voluntarily stepped down in the name of the sport, England and his own good name. If he'd have said, "I resign the captaincy on the grounds that retaining it will harm the England team, but I refute the allegations against me and will clear my good name," and THEN been proven innocent, he'd have been held up as a fookin messiah by the media. I also question the motives of a foreign manager who consistently picks bad teams and makes duff decisions for England but has a proven managerial track record elsewhere. Terry shouldn't be captain for the simple reason that he's no longer assured of a place in the starting eleven. I'm not Rooney's biggest fan, but he, Joe Hart and Ashley Cole are the only players who are. Therefore, it should really be one of those three. Rooney misses the first 2 games and Ashley Cole is a major prick, so I reckon it should be Hart, despite his obvious inexperience. " Ashley Cole isn't a leader at all, Heart is but goalkeepers don't make ideal captains. Rooney? I am not sure he has the brain for it. | |||
"Well John Terry’s lost his captaincy again but is it too early. After all he hasn’t been convicted yet and its innocent till proven guilty. " The fuckers guilty ask any lip reader. Transfer him to Al Ahly. | |||
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"As usual, the FA have fucked things up, again. Terry has retained the captaincy since October when the allegations against him first surfaced. There is no way England can go to a major football tournament with a captain due to answer a charge of racism a week after the tournament closes. The matter has to be dealt with before Euro 2012 starts, and if it can't be sorted by then, Terry should have voluntarily stepped down in the name of the sport, England and his own good name. If he'd have said, "I resign the captaincy on the grounds that retaining it will harm the England team, but I refute the allegations against me and will clear my good name," and THEN been proven innocent, he'd have been held up as a fookin messiah by the media. I also question the motives of a foreign manager who consistently picks bad teams and makes duff decisions for England but has a proven managerial track record elsewhere." Wishy we agree agree on something  | |||
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"i see that rio ferdinand has said he would not accept the england captains job if offered it,thats laughable as he is not good enough to get into the england squad anyway!,far too slow and gets caught out dithering on the ball far too often these days i am afraid." A fit Ferdinand is still first choice at United, he's still one of the best defenders in the world. He probably gets 'caught out' less than any other English defender playing in the Premier League. I think his decision had much to do with the fact that Anton Ferdinand, the guy Terry is alledged to have abused, is his brother. He doesn't want to be seen to gain from his brothers allegation. He appears to appreciate the England Captains job should be beyond reproach. | |||
"i see that rio ferdinand has said he would not accept the england captains job if offered it,thats laughable as he is not good enough to get into the england squad anyway!,far too slow and gets caught out dithering on the ball far too often these days i am afraid. A fit Ferdinand is still first choice at United, he's still one of the best defenders in the world. He probably gets 'caught out' less than any other English defender playing in the Premier League. I think his decision had much to do with the fact that Anton Ferdinand, the guy Terry is alledged to have abused, is his brother. He doesn't want to be seen to gain from his brothers allegation. He appears to appreciate the England Captains job should be beyond reproach. " Well said.  | |||
"As usual, the FA have fucked things up, again. Terry has retained the captaincy since October when the allegations against him first surfaced. There is no way England can go to a major football tournament with a captain due to answer a charge of racism a week after the tournament closes. The matter has to be dealt with before Euro 2012 starts, and if it can't be sorted by then, Terry should have voluntarily stepped down in the name of the sport, England and his own good name. If he'd have said, "I resign the captaincy on the grounds that retaining it will harm the England team, but I refute the allegations against me and will clear my good name," and THEN been proven innocent, he'd have been held up as a fookin messiah by the media. I also question the motives of a foreign manager who consistently picks bad teams and makes duff decisions for England but has a proven managerial track record elsewhere." i can't believe i am about to do what i am.... but i agree completely agree with wishy!! bloody hell has this ever happened..... i must not be well!! 
there is absolutely no way england could have this hanging over them going into the tournament so it needed to be sorted one way or another before it started....
i would actually go one further and say terry shouldn't be in the squad until this is all sorted... because after the criminal stuff you know that FA charges are coming knowing the burden of proof for that is going to be a lot lot lower..... | |||
"As usual, the FA have fucked things up, again. Terry has retained the captaincy since October when the allegations against him first surfaced. There is no way England can go to a major football tournament with a captain due to answer a charge of racism a week after the tournament closes. The matter has to be dealt with before Euro 2012 starts, and if it can't be sorted by then, Terry should have voluntarily stepped down in the name of the sport, England and his own good name. If he'd have said, "I resign the captaincy on the grounds that retaining it will harm the England team, but I refute the allegations against me and will clear my good name," and THEN been proven innocent, he'd have been held up as a fookin messiah by the media. I also question the motives of a foreign manager who consistently picks bad teams and makes duff decisions for England but has a proven managerial track record elsewhere. i can't believe i am about to do what i am.... but i agree completely agree with wishy!! bloody hell has this ever happened..... i must not be well!!
there is absolutely no way england could have this hanging over them going into the tournament so it needed to be sorted one way or another before it started....
i would actually go one further and say terry shouldn't be in the squad until this is all sorted... because after the criminal stuff you know that FA charges are coming knowing the burden of proof for that is going to be a lot lot lower....."agreed but the FA won't do anything if he's found not guilty | |||
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" agreed but the FA won't do anything if he's found not guilty" He'll have no FA charge to answer if found not guilty | |||
"In all fairness, he is a fucking prick though." i agree and he should have never been aloud to be captain again | |||
"As usual, the FA have fucked things up, again. Terry has retained the captaincy since October when the allegations against him first surfaced. There is no way England can go to a major football tournament with a captain due to answer a charge of racism a week after the tournament closes. The matter has to be dealt with before Euro 2012 starts, and if it can't be sorted by then, Terry should have voluntarily stepped down in the name of the sport, England and his own good name. If he'd have said, "I resign the captaincy on the grounds that retaining it will harm the England team, but I refute the allegations against me and will clear my good name," and THEN been proven innocent, he'd have been held up as a fookin messiah by the media. I also question the motives of a foreign manager who consistently picks bad teams and makes duff decisions for England but has a proven managerial track record elsewhere. i can't believe i am about to do what i am.... but i agree completely agree with wishy!! bloody hell has this ever happened..... i must not be well!!
there is absolutely no way england could have this hanging over them going into the tournament so it needed to be sorted one way or another before it started....
i would actually go one further and say terry shouldn't be in the squad until this is all sorted... because after the criminal stuff you know that FA charges are coming knowing the burden of proof for that is going to be a lot lot lower.....
agreed but the FA won't do anything if he's found not guilty"I think the FA may still charge Terry because the burden of proof isnt the same as in a criminal case. The FA cant do anything until the court case is over anyway, so not to prejudice the case. Disregarding the court case, ive always disliked John Terry, as he has a long list of misdemeanours. | |||
" Disregarding the court case, ive always disliked John Terry, as he has a long list of misdemeanours. " a long list..such as? | |||
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" Disregarding the court case, ive always disliked John Terry, as he has a long list of misdemeanours. a long list..such as?" Too long to list here but they include; Insulting americans the day after 9/11 at Heathrow airport; pissing in a pint glass in a nightclub; the numerous affairs; parking in a disabled bay. Compare and contrast with one of Italy's most famous footballers; Paulo Maldini. I dont recall one single negative story about him whatsover in his career. In fact he is soo revered at AC Milan they have retired his number 3 shirt. Somehow i cant see anyone doing that for Terry. | |||
" Too long to list here but they include; Insulting americans the day after 9/11 at Heathrow airport; pissing in a pint glass in a nightclub; the numerous affairs; parking in a disabled bay. He never insulted americans. Him and 3 other players upset some people with their d*unken behaviour,a few 21 year olds got pissed and fucked about.did London's pubs close on 7/7?. the incident is mentioned on JT's wiki page but not on Frank Lampard's funny that innit seeing as Frank was there. Numerous affairs? Name one. Name one proven affair. Is pissing in a pint pot a misdemamour? " | |||
" Paulo Maldini. I dont recall one single negative story about him whatsover in his career. In fact he is soo revered at AC Milan they have retired his number 3 shirt. Somehow i cant see anyone doing that for Terry. " isn't he being investigated by the italian authorities for dodgy tax dealings? | |||
"As usual, the FA have fucked things up, again. Terry has retained the captaincy since October when the allegations against him first surfaced. There is no way England can go to a major football tournament with a captain due to answer a charge of racism a week after the tournament closes. The matter has to be dealt with before Euro 2012 starts, and if it can't be sorted by then, Terry should have voluntarily stepped down in the name of the sport, England and his own good name. If he'd have said, "I resign the captaincy on the grounds that retaining it will harm the England team, but I refute the allegations against me and will clear my good name," and THEN been proven innocent, he'd have been held up as a fookin messiah by the media. I also question the motives of a foreign manager who consistently picks bad teams and makes duff decisions for England but has a proven managerial track record elsewhere. i can't believe i am about to do what i am.... but i agree completely agree with wishy!! bloody hell has this ever happened..... i must not be well!!
there is absolutely no way england could have this hanging over them going into the tournament so it needed to be sorted one way or another before it started....
i would actually go one further and say terry shouldn't be in the squad until this is all sorted... because after the criminal stuff you know that FA charges are coming knowing the burden of proof for that is going to be a lot lot lower.....
agreed but the FA won't do anything if he's found not guilty
I think the FA may still charge Terry because the burden of proof isnt the same as in a criminal case. The FA cant do anything until the court case is over anyway, so not to prejudice the case.
Disregarding the court case, ive always disliked John Terry, as he has a long list of misdemeanours. "This is what Im saying - biy the FA will say he's been cleared by a court so can't be guilty - and yet they have used a diiferent burden of proof for Suarez | |||
" Too long to list here but they include; Insulting americans the day after 9/11 at Heathrow airport; pissing in a pint glass in a nightclub; the numerous affairs; parking in a disabled bay. He never insulted americans. Him and 3 other players upset some people with their d*unken behaviour,a few 21 year olds got pissed and fucked about.did London's pubs close on 7/7?. the incident is mentioned on JT's wiki page but not on Frank Lampard's funny that innit seeing as Frank was there. Numerous affairs? Name one. Name one proven affair. Is pissing in a pint pot a misdemamour? " “I’ve misbehaved and slept with girls behind her back and that’s not right. She knows about it all now and we’re moving on. I’m not going to cheat on her ever again.” A direct quote from John Terry. Source Daily Telegraph website. Feel free to look it up. As for the 9/11 story, he was fined 2 weeks wages over the incident. And if the story was in any way not true, im sure his lawyers would have sued the paper for reporting it as such. | |||
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