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By *ea monkey OP Man
over a year ago
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But why?
As I eternally seem to be asking like a three year old; why?!
Why do we judge? What is it that makes us think that we can sit in judgement of others actions and values?
We may have the most basic of knowledge about a situation, like a cheating partner and we jump to judgement of them, what is it about ourselves that means that we can sit so heavily in judgement? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t judge  "
Everyone judges everyone at all times.
Some judgments are subtle and not expressed.
It's like everyone is selfish,just to varying degrees. |
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"I totally judge people, and I'm sure people judge me, but I try to keep my judgy opinions to myself, you don't need to reveal every thought that pops into your head. "
Oh definitely. Or if I must, I vent it where it won't do any harm. (to people who don't know and can't possibly know the person or situation sort of thing) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t judge
Everyone judges everyone at all times.
Some judgments are subtle and not expressed.
It's like everyone is selfish,just to varying degrees."
Are you judging me, I’ll cry  |
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By *ea monkey OP Man
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Evaluating whether people or situations are trustworthy or safe. Probably a survival mechanism in much more hand to mouth societies, evolutionary trait. Would be my guess. "
That's an interesting concept but if that's the case, why is it so prevalent? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Exercising judgement and being judgemental are two different things. You can do one without the other. However I am judgemental at times but I endeavour to minimise that by considering other perspectives. I don’t succeed as often as I would like. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t judge
Everyone judges everyone at all times.
Some judgments are subtle and not expressed.
It's like everyone is selfish,just to varying degrees.
Are you judging me, I’ll cry "
Yes I am, whatcha gonna do about it snowflake  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t judge
Everyone judges everyone at all times.
Some judgments are subtle and not expressed.
It's like everyone is selfish,just to varying degrees.
Are you judging me, I’ll cry
Yes I am, whatcha gonna do about it snowflake "
Cry and then pinch your bum... |
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"But why?
As I eternally seem to be asking like a three year old; why?!
Why do we judge? What is it that makes us think that we can sit in judgement of others actions and values?
We may have the most basic of knowledge about a situation, like a cheating partner and we jump to judgement of them, what is it about ourselves that means that we can sit so heavily in judgement? "
Our eleven year old came home from school the other day and asked what Jesus meant when he said about casting the first stone . So I told him there was a baying crowd about to stone a woman who was guilty of adultery , and Jesus stopped them by asking how many of them were perfect and only if they were free of all guilt could they throw a stone at her . And no one could so the moral was clear .
We all do stuff we shouldn’t at some point and it makes us feel better about ourselves if we have a dig at others for their misgivings . I truly believe that’s why we judge others . Otherwise why bother because we are as a species all about what’s in it for me , other than the true altruists out there . |
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"Evaluating whether people or situations are trustworthy or safe. Probably a survival mechanism in much more hand to mouth societies, evolutionary trait. Would be my guess.
That's an interesting concept but if that's the case, why is it so prevalent? "
Because it allowed us to survive. If people are "bad" we're less likely to be able to rely on them (simplistically), because they might be bad elsewhere. Not that an adulterer will also steal your food, necessarily, but s/he might. Same as obesity. We're drawn to salt sugar and fat and to stuff our faces because in prehistoric times, those fat stores allowed you to get by. |
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It also helps us decide how we want to act. Stupid example, but I talk fashion and makeup with one of my friends. "omg what is she wearing" isn't just, she looks stupid, it's also "and that's not something I'd wear myself". |
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By *ea monkey OP Man
over a year ago
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"Evaluating whether people or situations are trustworthy or safe. Probably a survival mechanism in much more hand to mouth societies, evolutionary trait. Would be my guess.
That's an interesting concept but if that's the case, why is it so prevalent?
Because it allowed us to survive. If people are "bad" we're less likely to be able to rely on them (simplistically), because they might be bad elsewhere. Not that an adulterer will also steal your food, necessarily, but s/he might. Same as obesity. We're drawn to salt sugar and fat and to stuff our faces because in prehistoric times, those fat stores allowed you to get by. "
I'm not sure if that's necessarily the case with judgement though. To me it seems more a case of imposing our moral views on others |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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"You judge Op? 
I try not to but I do. I'm your bestie and I totally judge you for that poor choice, also your choice of entertainment last night was amazing  "
FTFY
And I know right?! Love me some angry men songs. |
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When you call someone Sexy, or Hot, you are judging them.
When you say you like their style, their photos, you are judging them.
To find one thing cool, you need to find something else crap.
People just get asshurt when they get a negative judgement, but you never hear them say "the cheek of that fucker calling me sexy, who do they think they are judging me?"
I personally judge the shit out of everything, and am proud to do so. |
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By *ea monkey OP Man
over a year ago
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"You judge Op?
I try not to but I do. I'm your bestie and I totally judge you for that poor choice, also your choice of entertainment last night was shite
FTFY
And I know right?! Love me some angry men songs. "
Your auto carrot is playing up, I sorted it.
How will you know if someone is happy, sad or in love unless they sing about it?! |
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"But why?
As I eternally seem to be asking like a three year old; why?!
Why do we judge? What is it that makes us think that we can sit in judgement of others actions and values?
We may have the most basic of knowledge about a situation, like a cheating partner and we jump to judgement of them, what is it about ourselves that means that we can sit so heavily in judgement?
Our eleven year old came home from school the other day and asked what Jesus meant when he said about casting the first stone . So I told him there was a baying crowd about to stone a woman who was guilty of adultery , and Jesus stopped them by asking how many of them were perfect and only if they were free of all guilt could they throw a stone at her . And no one could so the moral was clear .
We all do stuff we shouldn’t at some point and it makes us feel better about ourselves if we have a dig at others for their misgivings . I truly believe that’s why we judge others . Otherwise why bother because we are as a species all about what’s in it for me , other than the true altruists out there . "
Geez a rock , where is the bitch ? |
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"Evaluating whether people or situations are trustworthy or safe. Probably a survival mechanism in much more hand to mouth societies, evolutionary trait. Would be my guess.
That's an interesting concept but if that's the case, why is it so prevalent?
Because it allowed us to survive. If people are "bad" we're less likely to be able to rely on them (simplistically), because they might be bad elsewhere. Not that an adulterer will also steal your food, necessarily, but s/he might. Same as obesity. We're drawn to salt sugar and fat and to stuff our faces because in prehistoric times, those fat stores allowed you to get by.
I'm not sure if that's necessarily the case with judgement though. To me it seems more a case of imposing our moral views on others "
Yes, but I think it's the same sort of thing. It's wrong to cheat. It's wrong to steal. If someone lacks the moral character not to cheat, maybe they'll steal? I need my food, there isn't enough to go around, I won't rely on the cheater.
I'm not talking in depth arguments about the nitty gritty of modern morality, just broad strokes basic survival stuff. If you need to rely on Person A, who you know has done socially unacceptable things, or Person B, who you don't know that about, and your very survival depends on it, I bet most people would go for Person B. We're a social species. Our survival does depend on mutual cooperation and following certain rules. |
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By *ea monkey OP Man
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"When you call someone Sexy, or Hot, you are judging them.
When you say you like their style, their photos, you are judging them.
To find one thing cool, you need to find something else crap.
People just get asshurt when they get a negative judgement, but you never hear them say "the cheek of that fucker calling me sexy, who do they think they are judging me?"
I personally judge the shit out of everything, and am proud to do so."
Nicely put, I see your point |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I have noticed people men/ women and couples are quick to judge on fab i get judged alot by prospective meets which ultimately end in disaster all we can do is accept that it will happen and carry on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"But why?
As I eternally seem to be asking like a three year old; why?!
Why do we judge? What is it that makes us think that we can sit in judgement of others actions and values?
We may have the most basic of knowledge about a situation, like a cheating partner and we jump to judgement of them, what is it about ourselves that means that we can sit so heavily in judgement?
Our eleven year old came home from school the other day and asked what Jesus meant when he said about casting the first stone . So I told him there was a baying crowd about to stone a woman who was guilty of adultery , and Jesus stopped them by asking how many of them were perfect and only if they were free of all guilt could they throw a stone at her . And no one could so the moral was clear .
We all do stuff we shouldn’t at some point and it makes us feel better about ourselves if we have a dig at others for their misgivings . I truly believe that’s why we judge others . Otherwise why bother because we are as a species all about what’s in it for me , other than the true altruists out there . "
This probably yes. To judge someone else is to take the pressure of yourself for your own wrongdoings.
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By *ea monkey OP Man
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Evaluating whether people or situations are trustworthy or safe. Probably a survival mechanism in much more hand to mouth societies, evolutionary trait. Would be my guess.
That's an interesting concept but if that's the case, why is it so prevalent?
Because it allowed us to survive. If people are "bad" we're less likely to be able to rely on them (simplistically), because they might be bad elsewhere. Not that an adulterer will also steal your food, necessarily, but s/he might. Same as obesity. We're drawn to salt sugar and fat and to stuff our faces because in prehistoric times, those fat stores allowed you to get by.
I'm not sure if that's necessarily the case with judgement though. To me it seems more a case of imposing our moral views on others
Yes, but I think it's the same sort of thing. It's wrong to cheat. It's wrong to steal. If someone lacks the moral character not to cheat, maybe they'll steal? I need my food, there isn't enough to go around, I won't rely on the cheater.
I'm not talking in depth arguments about the nitty gritty of modern morality, just broad strokes basic survival stuff. If you need to rely on Person A, who you know has done socially unacceptable things, or Person B, who you don't know that about, and your very survival depends on it, I bet most people would go for Person B. We're a social species. Our survival does depend on mutual cooperation and following certain rules. "
I don't think that I agree with you about survival as our need for survival instincts have dimmed over hundreds of years, yet judgement is more prevalent now than ever, social media is fuelled by it.
I think your point about rules is an interesting one though. Society is based upon rules, laws and moral values, does judgement help to enforce those? |
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And I guess people do it because it takes effort and some empathy to understand a situation. Easier just to say 'What a total bastard' and then they don't need to actually look into why. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And I guess people do it because it takes effort and some empathy to understand a situation. Easier just to say 'What a total bastard' and then they don't need to actually look into why. "
Im just waiting for judgment day to arrive lol |
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"Evaluating whether people or situations are trustworthy or safe. Probably a survival mechanism in much more hand to mouth societies, evolutionary trait. Would be my guess.
That's an interesting concept but if that's the case, why is it so prevalent?
Because it allowed us to survive. If people are "bad" we're less likely to be able to rely on them (simplistically), because they might be bad elsewhere. Not that an adulterer will also steal your food, necessarily, but s/he might. Same as obesity. We're drawn to salt sugar and fat and to stuff our faces because in prehistoric times, those fat stores allowed you to get by.
I'm not sure if that's necessarily the case with judgement though. To me it seems more a case of imposing our moral views on others
Yes, but I think it's the same sort of thing. It's wrong to cheat. It's wrong to steal. If someone lacks the moral character not to cheat, maybe they'll steal? I need my food, there isn't enough to go around, I won't rely on the cheater.
I'm not talking in depth arguments about the nitty gritty of modern morality, just broad strokes basic survival stuff. If you need to rely on Person A, who you know has done socially unacceptable things, or Person B, who you don't know that about, and your very survival depends on it, I bet most people would go for Person B. We're a social species. Our survival does depend on mutual cooperation and following certain rules.
I don't think that I agree with you about survival as our need for survival instincts have dimmed over hundreds of years, yet judgement is more prevalent now than ever, social media is fuelled by it.
I think your point about rules is an interesting one though. Society is based upon rules, laws and moral values, does judgement help to enforce those? "
I suppose I'm working from the premise that these traits don't undo themselves over even hundreds of years.
And yes. Is this person worth looking into? Are their actions punishable or excusable? All of these things come with biases (is this person's behaviour suspicious or am I being racist/ classist/ etc?) but judgement is involved in the determination. |
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"But why?
As I eternally seem to be asking like a three year old; why?!
Why do we judge? What is it that makes us think that we can sit in judgement of others actions and values?
We may have the most basic of knowledge about a situation, like a cheating partner and we jump to judgement of them, what is it about ourselves that means that we can sit so heavily in judgement? "
More homework. |
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