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There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements? |
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"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?"
Post work out when i used to was a 1 liter bottle of yazzo.
100g sugar for insulin spike 40g protien for growth. Consumed in the changing room then about an hour later a nice big meal steak or chicken or fish woth potatoes and some veg.
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2-4 pints of skimmed milk is good too
4 pints is about 100g sugar for insulin spike and 60-70 g protien and costs a quid.
Harder to drink quickly than a liter of yazzo though but thats now like 2 quid instead of the spar 1 quid deals |
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"Caffeine shots they work well and salt in your water. can cause kidney stones avoid salt as an additive "
Shes talking pre workout.
In a work out you're gonna lose a shit load of sodium through sweat. |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Caffeine shots they work well and salt in your water. can cause kidney stones avoid salt as an additive "
Just a little works well when out for hrs I've found. Not if in the gym for an hr no  |
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"Caffeine shots they work well and salt in your water. can cause kidney stones avoid salt as an additive
Just a little works well when out for hrs I've found. Not if in the gym for an hr no "
well I personally would just drink water avoiding salt at all costs if you get kidney stones you'll understand why |
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"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?"
I use mp and bulk powders , whey isolate and Micellar protein and creatine
I use doses of luceine to boost insulin
For pre workout, arginine, beta alline , glucose and acetyl-l-carnitine |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Caffeine shots they work well and salt in your water. can cause kidney stones avoid salt as an additive
Just a little works well when out for hrs I've found. Not if in the gym for an hr no well I personally would just drink water avoiding salt at all costs if you get kidney stones you'll understand why "
Try cycling for 7 hrs. I have more salt on my roast potatoes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Caffeine shots they work well and salt in your water. can cause kidney stones avoid salt as an additive
Just a little works well when out for hrs I've found. Not if in the gym for an hr no well I personally would just drink water avoiding salt at all costs if you get kidney stones you'll understand why "
You have to eat a pretty obscene amount of salt to cause stones.
A salted caramel espresso shot wont cause it right before a lot of sweating.
High sodoum diet and litrle exertion will though |
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"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
I use mp and bulk powders , whey isolate and Micellar protein and creatine
I use doses of luceine to boost insulin
For pre workout, arginine, beta alline , glucose and acetyl-l-carnitine "
^this is a man i would trust for nutritional and supplement advice |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
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"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
I use mp and bulk powders , whey isolate and Micellar protein and creatine
I use doses of luceine to boost insulin
For pre workout, arginine, beta alline , glucose and acetyl-l-carnitine
^this is a man i would trust for nutritional and supplement advice "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Caffeine shots they work well and salt in your water. can cause kidney stones avoid salt as an additive
Just a little works well when out for hrs I've found. Not if in the gym for an hr no well I personally would just drink water avoiding salt at all costs if you get kidney stones you'll understand why
Try cycling for 7 hrs. I have more salt on my roast potatoes. "
I've played many sports all my life ,was a tennis coach and play squash to a high standard for 3 hours and never taken salt as an additive, water is fine your body produces all the salt you need ,I'm just saying if you're susceptible to a build up of salt in your urinary tract it will be one of the most painful things you will experience and should be avoided but I appreciate that advice is only as good as the eyes that read it |
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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago
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"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?"
Coffee for pre-workout cardio (session 1)
PWO 2 scoops of Form Protein with Avacado, Spinach
Through the day: meals 2-3
Pre-WO: 100g Oats (coffee if needed for session 2)
Post-WO: 1 scoop of Protein (20 min drive home)
Final meal after training.
We prefer Form protein as they’re much cleaner than a vast majority on the market, they do contain fillers. Pre-wo Supps don’t work for me and so a good strong espresso does the job and much cheaper.
Each person is different and those who know what they’re doing will tell you, getting ripped is done in the kitchen. I train for strength and endurance but many guys at my gym want to get ripped, they drink a ton of cheap formulas and have a pretty poor diet. That’ll equal zero results. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Why do you want insulin spike?
"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
Post work out when i used to was a 1 liter bottle of yazzo.
100g sugar for insulin spike 40g protien for growth. Consumed in the changing room then about an hour later a nice big meal steak or chicken or fish woth potatoes and some veg.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do you want insulin spike?
There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
Post work out when i used to was a 1 liter bottle of yazzo.
100g sugar for insulin spike 40g protien for growth. Consumed in the changing room then about an hour later a nice big meal steak or chicken or fish woth potatoes and some veg.
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Insulin is a major transporter of protien to muscle and also incredibly anabolic (muscle building) more so than steroids, many body builders will take insulin but for a healthy person artificially adding insulin is just stupidly dangerous it can so easily kill you.
But a natural insulin spike from glucose is perfectly safe and in the 30 miniute post workout period very effective for adding muscle mass.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Real food always best. Remember it's a fitness industry. "
Yeah and when you have a headache you can chew willow bark or jist pop an aspirin.
As you say its an industry its built on results and being betger than the competition |
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"Why do you want insulin spike?
There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
Post work out when i used to was a 1 liter bottle of yazzo.
100g sugar for insulin spike 40g protien for growth. Consumed in the changing room then about an hour later a nice big meal steak or chicken or fish woth potatoes and some veg.
Insulin is a major transporter of protien to muscle and also incredibly anabolic (muscle building) more so than steroids, many body builders will take insulin but for a healthy person artificially adding insulin is just stupidly dangerous it can so easily kill you.
But a natural insulin spike from glucose is perfectly safe and in the 30 miniute post workout period very effective for adding muscle mass.
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In a nutshell |
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"Why do you want insulin spike?
There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
Post work out when i used to was a 1 liter bottle of yazzo.
100g sugar for insulin spike 40g protien for growth. Consumed in the changing room then about an hour later a nice big meal steak or chicken or fish woth potatoes and some veg.
Insulin is a major transporter of protien to muscle and also incredibly anabolic (muscle building) more so than steroids, many body builders will take insulin but for a healthy person artificially adding insulin is just stupidly dangerous it can so easily kill you.
But a natural insulin spike from glucose is perfectly safe and in the 30 miniute post workout period very effective for adding muscle mass.
In a nutshell "
Out of curiosity are you a PT instructor?
Id have killed for your body at 22 let alone 44. |
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"Why do you want insulin spike?
There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
Post work out when i used to was a 1 liter bottle of yazzo.
100g sugar for insulin spike 40g protien for growth. Consumed in the changing room then about an hour later a nice big meal steak or chicken or fish woth potatoes and some veg.
Insulin is a major transporter of protien to muscle and also incredibly anabolic (muscle building) more so than steroids, many body builders will take insulin but for a healthy person artificially adding insulin is just stupidly dangerous it can so easily kill you.
But a natural insulin spike from glucose is perfectly safe and in the 30 miniute post workout period very effective for adding muscle mass.
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I wonder if any bodybuilders have made themselves insulin resistant causing insulin spikes... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do you want insulin spike?
There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
Post work out when i used to was a 1 liter bottle of yazzo.
100g sugar for insulin spike 40g protien for growth. Consumed in the changing room then about an hour later a nice big meal steak or chicken or fish woth potatoes and some veg.
Insulin is a major transporter of protien to muscle and also incredibly anabolic (muscle building) more so than steroids, many body builders will take insulin but for a healthy person artificially adding insulin is just stupidly dangerous it can so easily kill you.
But a natural insulin spike from glucose is perfectly safe and in the 30 miniute post workout period very effective for adding muscle mass.
I wonder if any bodybuilders have made themselves insulin resistant causing insulin spikes..."
No they usualy die of a hypoglycemic coma |
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By (user no longer on site)
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To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose |
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose"
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day....."
Oh sorry again in that case no ots not even close to the required amount type 2 diabetes is the result of prolonged near constant elevated insulin not a few miniutes.
Were taking a level of sugar thats 1 milkshake, 1 big sclice of cake eyc.
Than followed by fats and protien.
Insulin resistance is much harder to achieve and requires consts tly high levels which a body builder wont have |
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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago
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Wow! I had no idea about the insulin spike... I am insulin resistant (have been as a child) and I get the spikes naturally if I eat too much sugar. So I don’t, of course.
I’ve learned so much on this thread. Love it.
I take MyProtein Impact Whey chocolate brownie with a tablespoon of peanut butter powder, or vanilla blended with a few strawberries and raspberries. But I see them as a postworkout treat more than anything. 
I’ve also tried the PHD Diet Whey and they’re an acquired taste- I bought 2 1-kg bags at Holland and Barretts and it took me ages to use them up!  |
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day.....
Oh sorry again in that case no ots not even close to the required amount type 2 diabetes is the result of prolonged near constant elevated insulin not a few miniutes.
Were taking a level of sugar thats 1 milkshake, 1 big sclice of cake eyc.
Than followed by fats and protien.
Insulin resistance is much harder to achieve and requires consts tly high levels which a body builder wont have"
It actually doesn't, but who knows what the minimum is, I doubt once a day is a problem. The thought of 100g of sugar sends chills down my spine though.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day.....
Oh sorry again in that case no ots not even close to the required amount type 2 diabetes is the result of prolonged near constant elevated insulin not a few miniutes.
Were taking a level of sugar thats 1 milkshake, 1 big sclice of cake eyc.
Than followed by fats and protien.
Insulin resistance is much harder to achieve and requires consts tly high levels which a body builder wont have
It actually doesn't, but who knows what the minimum is, I doubt once a day is a problem. The thought of 100g of sugar sends chills down my spine though...."
What actually doesnt?
100g of sugar is 400 calories its not a significant amount if its replacing used carbohydrates.
Kts a lot of you're a sedentary person but not post work out whre yoh will have burned 400kcal easy.
It's just replenishment.
I drink more sugar than that a day in milk |
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day.....
Oh sorry again in that case no ots not even close to the required amount type 2 diabetes is the result of prolonged near constant elevated insulin not a few miniutes.
Were taking a level of sugar thats 1 milkshake, 1 big sclice of cake eyc.
Than followed by fats and protien.
Insulin resistance is much harder to achieve and requires consts tly high levels which a body builder wont have
It actually doesn't, but who knows what the minimum is, I doubt once a day is a problem. The thought of 100g of sugar sends chills down my spine though....
What actually doesnt?
100g of sugar is 400 calories its not a significant amount if its replacing used carbohydrates.
Kts a lot of you're a sedentary person but not post work out whre yoh will have burned 400kcal easy.
It's just replenishment.
I drink more sugar than that a day in milk"
100g of sugar would cause a significant spike in insulin, they only use 75g to do a glucose tolerance test. Your age and your physiology would determine if that were detrimental or not.
There has not been any research that I can find on insulin resistance in bodybuilders, but the OP might find the following overview article interesting:
J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2014; 11: 20.
Published online 2014 May 12. doi: 10.1186/1550-2783-11-20
PMCID: PMC4033492
PMID: 24864135
Evidence-based recommendations for natural bodybuilding contest preparation: nutrition and supplementation. |
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day.....
Oh sorry again in that case no ots not even close to the required amount type 2 diabetes is the result of prolonged near constant elevated insulin not a few miniutes.
Were taking a level of sugar thats 1 milkshake, 1 big sclice of cake eyc.
Than followed by fats and protien.
Insulin resistance is much harder to achieve and requires consts tly high levels which a body builder wont have
It actually doesn't, but who knows what the minimum is, I doubt once a day is a problem. The thought of 100g of sugar sends chills down my spine though....
What actually doesnt?
100g of sugar is 400 calories its not a significant amount if its replacing used carbohydrates.
Kts a lot of you're a sedentary person but not post work out whre yoh will have burned 400kcal easy.
It's just replenishment.
I drink more sugar than that a day in milk
100g of sugar would cause a significant spike in insulin, they only use 75g to do a glucose tolerance test. Your age and your physiology would determine if that were detrimental or not.
There has not been any research that I can find on insulin resistance in bodybuilders, but the OP might find the following overview article interesting:
J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2014; 11: 20.
Published online 2014 May 12. doi: 10.1186/1550-2783-11-20
PMCID: PMC4033492
PMID: 24864135
Evidence-based recommendations for natural bodybuilding contest preparation: nutrition and supplementation."
a significant t spike is the point |
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day.....
Oh sorry again in that case no ots not even close to the required amount type 2 diabetes is the result of prolonged near constant elevated insulin not a few miniutes.
Were taking a level of sugar thats 1 milkshake, 1 big sclice of cake eyc.
Than followed by fats and protien.
Insulin resistance is much harder to achieve and requires consts tly high levels which a body builder wont have
It actually doesn't, but who knows what the minimum is, I doubt once a day is a problem. The thought of 100g of sugar sends chills down my spine though....
What actually doesnt?
100g of sugar is 400 calories its not a significant amount if its replacing used carbohydrates.
Kts a lot of you're a sedentary person but not post work out whre yoh will have burned 400kcal easy.
It's just replenishment.
I drink more sugar than that a day in milk
100g of sugar would cause a significant spike in insulin, they only use 75g to do a glucose tolerance test. Your age and your physiology would determine if that were detrimental or not.
There has not been any research that I can find on insulin resistance in bodybuilders, but the OP might find the following overview article interesting:
J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2014; 11: 20.
Published online 2014 May 12. doi: 10.1186/1550-2783-11-20
PMCID: PMC4033492
PMID: 24864135
Evidence-based recommendations for natural bodybuilding contest preparation: nutrition and supplementation. a significant t spike is the point"
I know - the question I am posing is in what circumstances could that be detrimental or counter-productive. Insulin has many functions and physiological effects for instance stimulating the storage of fats in muscle and liver tissues, one of the strongest predictors of insulin resistance. It is a very complex subject. |
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"To clarify a body builder dosing on insulin is actualy a very low over all dose due to short life span compared to a person who chronically over eats.
But as its external without feedback there is a big chance to succumb to over dose
I was talking about large doses of sugars... but maybe if is only once a day.....
Oh sorry again in that case no ots not even close to the required amount type 2 diabetes is the result of prolonged near constant elevated insulin not a few miniutes.
Were taking a level of sugar thats 1 milkshake, 1 big sclice of cake eyc.
Than followed by fats and protien.
Insulin resistance is much harder to achieve and requires consts tly high levels which a body builder wont have
It actually doesn't, but who knows what the minimum is, I doubt once a day is a problem. The thought of 100g of sugar sends chills down my spine though....
What actually doesnt?
100g of sugar is 400 calories its not a significant amount if its replacing used carbohydrates.
Kts a lot of you're a sedentary person but not post work out whre yoh will have burned 400kcal easy.
It's just replenishment.
I drink more sugar than that a day in milk
100g of sugar would cause a significant spike in insulin, they only use 75g to do a glucose tolerance test. Your age and your physiology would determine if that were detrimental or not.
There has not been any research that I can find on insulin resistance in bodybuilders, but the OP might find the following overview article interesting:
J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2014; 11: 20.
Published online 2014 May 12. doi: 10.1186/1550-2783-11-20
PMCID: PMC4033492
PMID: 24864135
Evidence-based recommendations for natural bodybuilding contest preparation: nutrition and supplementation. a significant t spike is the point
I know - the question I am posing is in what circumstances could that be detrimental or counter-productive. Insulin has many functions and physiological effects for instance stimulating the storage of fats in muscle and liver tissues, one of the strongest predictors of insulin resistance. It is a very complex subject."
continuous multi hour long unending elevation like constant over eating is an issue.
An insulin spike after exercise is not an issue.
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"subject. continuous multi hour long unending elevation like constant over eating is an issue.
An insulin spike after exercise is not an issue.
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Sigh.....it does NOT require continuous elevation or overeating to cause insulin resistance - slim athletes eating 3 meals a day can become insulin resistant.
One daily spike may not cause a problem (I don't know that until someone researches it), but what CAN is definitely somewhere in between the two in terms of refined sugar intake. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Recently started gym after years of abandonment!
Myprotein 'mypre' with some added vitafibre. After I go for myprotein recovery blend or diet whey.
Also using 3x creatine tabs a day and 2x alpha man capsules. All from myprotein. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I use 90 plus have one on a morning and one on a night you carnt beat food but sometimes I don’t have time in the day to make a proper meal so supplement what I already have with shakes |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Protein shots can be good but i dont think im thinking the same as everyone on thread 
Haha at least you get a good work out getting that and great fun  "
work up a nice sweat |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"None here, unless you’re doing 2 a days there’s kinda no need, just get some decent food in or as said above, chocolate milk.. "
Like I say I don’t have time I work loads so I fill in with a quick shake when needed |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Whey protein is food. Nothing wrong with using it as a one or two of your meals a day with a few other added ingredients.
I have it for breakfast with oats, milk, peanuts and a banana and as my pre gym meal with oats and milk. |
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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago
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"Protein shakes are highly over rated
Most of the studies into how much you need are by the people who make them. That's why they say high numbers
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whey protein and all the other things are supplements. Hence to be consumed alongside proper whole foods and not replacements. |
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"Protein shakes are highly over rated
Most of the studies into how much you need are by the people who make them. That's why they say high numbers
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They have thier uses mainly just in cheapness and practicality.
Tempted to join near by gym in a hotel and just go to the resturant straight after for a nice meal these days though lol |
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I personally have one a hour before and also and light meal.
And also one straight after that I keep one scoop under my protein shaker so I can just add water. |
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"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?"
I drink protein milk..50g or protein in 1 litre..good value and great nutrition and of course hydration is very important..2 pints of hot water first thing in the morning |
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"There would appear to be a lot of gym dwellers on here with some impressively sculpted bodies. For those that do work out, what is your preferred protein shake and pre/post workout supplements?
I drink protein milk..50g or protein in 1 litre..good value and great nutrition and of course hydration is very important..2 pints of hot water first thing in the morning "
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Crack two eggs into one scoop of whey protein in the blender with a tbsp of peanut butter add skimmed milk.
2x eggs 12g protein.
Whey protein 1 scoop 24g protein
Peanut butter 1tbsp 15g protein
Blend up with 250ml of water or skimmed milk. |
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"Crack two eggs into one scoop of whey protein in the blender with a tbsp of peanut butter add skimmed milk.
2x eggs 12g protein.
Whey protein 1 scoop 24g protein
Peanut butter 1tbsp 15g protein
Blend up with 250ml of water or skimmed milk. "
Sounds vile id rather just use 2-3 scoops of powder |
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"Crack two eggs into one scoop of whey protein in the blender with a tbsp of peanut butter add skimmed milk.
2x eggs 12g protein.
Whey protein 1 scoop 24g protein
Peanut butter 1tbsp 15g protein
Blend up with 250ml of water or skimmed milk.
Sounds vile id rather just use 2-3 scoops of powder"
This, plus bioavailability of raw eggs is lower than cooked eggs. |
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I used to drink an organic unflavoured and unaltered whey protein concentrate from a UK company called Pink Sun, which I would mix with their organic cocoa powder as it’s the nicest cocoa I’ve ever tasted - and honey to sweeten.
I stopped eating dairy some time ago though, so now I just get everything I need from my meals. Some Hemp proteins are pretty good if you mix them with fruit and honey. |
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