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over a year ago
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I read another interesting article that adhd is linked to sugar, they did an experiment where few didnt get sugar and as a result they got very calm, many of these modern problems is down to sugar and when fast food became available, whats your view? |
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"I read another interesting article that adhd is linked to sugar, they did an experiment where few didnt get sugar and as a result they got very calm, many of these modern problems is down to sugar and when fast food became available, whats your view?"
I wouldn't be at all surprised. |
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"I read another interesting article that adhd is linked to sugar, they did an experiment where few didnt get sugar and as a result they got very calm, many of these modern problems is down to sugar and when fast food became available, whats your view?"
A load of bollox |
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"I read another interesting article that adhd is linked to sugar, they did an experiment where few didnt get sugar and as a result they got very calm, many of these modern problems is down to sugar and when fast food became available, whats your view?
A load of bollox"
Was just going to say the same. If anything it’s the sugar replacements that don’t help these things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Certain sugars and E numbers can make adhd children more hyper, but it’s not the cause. There’s no known cause, and lots of neurological studies have been done. It’s a different way their brains are wired x |
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"I read another interesting article that adhd is linked to sugar, they did an experiment where few didnt get sugar and as a result they got very calm, many of these modern problems is down to sugar and when fast food became available, whats your view?
A load of bollox"
Yup
Utter nonsense |
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"I'm no doctor but if someone with ADHD consumes sugar, they will have more energy?"
ADHD isnt about energy levels though.
Its about the inability to assimilate and retain information, concentration and general focus
Along with a myriad of other things, like not having appropriate social skills. |
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Haha what load of Bollocks.
I have ADHD my son has it and my daughter has it. Our brains are wired slightly different to a normal brain. We don't need sugar to make us hiper. What I found is that sugar calms us down. My son climbs the walls his restless his moody and angry can't sleep if he doesn't have sugar. I'm the same. I tend to be more forgetful. Every ones different. |
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By *irthandgirthMan
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I often wonder what the last 3 or 4 generations of convenience food being pumped full of crap has done to us as a nation. I don't believe we know what all those chemicals have done to our bodies over the last 50-60 years, or what effects have been passed down in utero. I know a part of the seeming numbers explosion in ADD/ADHD and other behavioural conditions is down to advances in recognition, but I cannot remember, as a child, ever seeing so many with issues. |
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"I'm no doctor but if someone with ADHD consumes sugar, they will have more energy?
ADHD isnt about energy levels though.
Its about the inability to assimilate and retain information, concentration and general focus
Along with a myriad of other things, like not having appropriate social skills."
I completely agree, but a simple study that wants to prove that ADHD is linked to sugar won't factor that in.
Take two children with ADHD. Feed one of them haribos, one of them bran flakes. The one with the haribo's is lilely to be pinging everywhere. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I often wonder what the last 3 or 4 generations of convenience food being pumped full of crap has done to us as a nation. I don't believe we know what all those chemicals have done to our bodies over the last 50-60 years, or what effects have been passed down in utero. I know a part of the seeming numbers explosion in ADD/ADHD and other behavioural conditions is down to advances in recognition, but I cannot remember, as a child, ever seeing so many with issues."
That is right and I also wonder the same. I wonder what the statistics are before the 1940s compared to know, no doubt a big difference.
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By *ewrocksWoman
over a year ago
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Adhd is entirely different to sugary diet. One of my brothers has adhd, sugary shit certainly never did him any favours, but even with all processed sugars, food colourings etc removed, he still has it. If removing sugar/colours turns them back into little angels, then they don't have Adhd. Too many shit parents using a self diagnosed label to justify their own incompetence. |
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As others have said that seems far too simplistic. And for those who say we didn't have kids with ADD and ADHD decades ago, we didn't have kids with a certain genetic condition I'm very familiar with before the 80s because they simply didn't have the knowledge to diagnose it. That said I don't think some of the crap in processed food is doing any of us any favours. |
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I've no idea but I always think these things are always a little bit dangerous because it then suggests it's people's own fault having certain conditions. |
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"I often wonder what the last 3 or 4 generations of convenience food being pumped full of crap has done to us as a nation. I don't believe we know what all those chemicals have done to our bodies over the last 50-60 years, or what effects have been passed down in utero. I know a part of the seeming numbers explosion in ADD/ADHD and other behavioural conditions is down to advances in recognition, but I cannot remember, as a child, ever seeing so many with issues.That is right and I also wonder the same. I wonder what the statistics are before the 1940s compared to know, no doubt a big difference. "
Actually I think things like ADHD and other conditions that we consider "new" have been around forever except they weren't acknowledged.
Instead people would just considered eccentric or put in asylums. |
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"I'm no doctor but if someone with ADHD consumes sugar, they will have more energy?
ADHD isnt about energy levels though.
Its about the inability to assimilate and retain information, concentration and general focus
Along with a myriad of other things, like not having appropriate social skills."
Also problems with sequencing (doing things in order) facial recognition, poor risk assessment, risk seeking behaviour, mental health and wellbeing, addictive behaviours, compulsive behaviours, sometimes proprioceptive sensory problems and fine motor control delays.
Sugar is something that can exacerbate visible symptoms but is highly unlikely to be causative of the condition. Sugar is the most socially acceptable addiction in the world (unless you're addicted to saving blind puppies) and the least likely to be tackled. |
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"Haha what load of Bollocks.
I have ADHD my son has it and my daughter has it. Our brains are wired slightly different to a normal brain. We don't need sugar to make us hiper. What I found is that sugar calms us down. My son climbs the walls his restless his
moody and angry can't sleep if he doesn't have sugar. I'm the same. I tend to be more forgetful. Every ones different. "
Agree find the same in my house...mother and daughter both have it and she is a demon without sugar. Recent research suggests its passed in the genes of the mother 
In ADHD sufferers the right side of the brain is slightly smaller. All the things they used to say caused it are now thought to accelerate the symptoms  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I read another interesting article that adhd is linked to sugar, they did an experiment where few didnt get sugar and as a result they got very calm, many of these modern problems is down to sugar and when fast food became available, whats your view?"
Why has it taken so long? Most responsible parents have known this for decades. Manufactures have know this too. Public opinion has slowly started to apply enough pressure that some are looking at it seriously. |
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As a mum of a lad who has ADHD for us sugar does nothing to our lad we found no link with anything that made him hyper, he’s 17 now still mad as a box of frogs ( wouldn’t want him any different) but he has learned how to manage his behaviour him self and has taken him self off his meds, he is also autistic,
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By (user no longer on site)
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I should have added that sugar isn't the only reason, it plays a large part but it triggers those susceptible to this behaviour due to a mental condition. |
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"I've actually just been to the doctors this morning and have been referred to a specialist for suspected AD(H)D (without hyperactivity).
ADD? Is this the first time this has come up for you?"
I've had mental health problems my whole life but kept it to myself. It's only the last year I've begun to accept it and speak about it. My parents thought because I wasn't naughty there wasn't a problem. I think my Dad has it too because he's very similar to me and suffers with anxiety, even though he doesn't seek help with it. |
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I have ADHD and am proud  . It is only a dash of ADHD, Doctors words not mine
Anyways yes totally agree, it is related to sugar and diet. Foods/drinks I cannot have are;
Lilt - the tropical drink
Liptons iced tea
Crispy Cream doughnuts
These make me hyper! years ago friends didn't believe me on the lilt so went to the garage brought some and made me drink a pint of the stuff, I told them that no matter what happens they are to blame... Lets just say I annoyed the hell out of them, wanted to go dancing and was bouncing of the walls, kept them up until 3/4am. They never let me lit again. Was at a festival years later and a drink was being passed around lilt with vodka, I went to take a swig and a friend who was there that fateful evening grabbed the bottle of me and said I am not going through that again!
Liptons iced tea, I discovered this in Greece many years ago.... was ironing (was there for 3 months working hol) and my friend asked me if I was ok... I was ironing a bit too enthusiastically apparently, singing away and making odd noises!
The best one is Crsipy Cream doughnuts, had two in a row, was fine that day ( I think I was). The following day I went to Kestrels with a friend and lets just say I went into child mode... While awaiting for him to get ready (pack his bag) I was spinning around in his small hallway like a kid does when bored of waiting. Then when at Kestrals I was doing spins in the swimming pool and making myself giddy, laughing and doing it again... Amazed I didn't drown!
So those are at the top of my avoid list, there are others that take me by surprise and when your at work having a reaction it can be very hard to sit still and be 'normal' I normal try to take a break and go somewhere til it subsides, not always possible though.
One of my dad's work mates had reactions to grapes, think they got taking about it at work, dad came home and mentioned it to mum and myself, I am ok with grapes both fermented and fresh
So yes living proof certain food/drinks have an unwelcome effect |
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"I have ADHD and am proud . It is only a dash of ADHD, Doctors words not mine
Anyways yes totally agree, it is related to sugar and diet. Foods/drinks I cannot have are;
Lilt - the tropical drink
Liptons iced tea
Crispy Cream doughnuts
These make me hyper! years ago friends didn't believe me on the lilt so went to the garage brought some and made me drink a pint of the stuff, I told them that no matter what happens they are to blame... Lets just say I annoyed the hell out of them, wanted to go dancing and was bouncing of the walls, kept them up until 3/4am. They never let me lit again. Was at a festival years later and a drink was being passed around lilt with vodka, I went to take a swig and a friend who was there that fateful evening grabbed the bottle of me and said I am not going through that again!
Liptons iced tea, I discovered this in Greece many years ago.... was ironing (was there for 3 months working hol) and my friend asked me if I was ok... I was ironing a bit too enthusiastically apparently, singing away and making odd noises!
The best one is Crsipy Cream doughnuts, had two in a row, was fine that day ( I think I was). The following day I went to Kestrels with a friend and lets just say I went into child mode... While awaiting for him to get ready (pack his bag) I was spinning around in his small hallway like a kid does when bored of waiting. Then when at Kestrals I was doing spins in the swimming pool and making myself giddy, laughing and doing it again... Amazed I didn't drown!
So those are at the top of my avoid list, there are others that take me by surprise and when your at work having a reaction it can be very hard to sit still and be 'normal' I normal try to take a break and go somewhere til it subsides, not always possible though.
One of my dad's work mates had reactions to grapes, think they got taking about it at work, dad came home and mentioned it to mum and myself, I am ok with grapes both fermented and fresh
So yes living proof certain food/drinks have an unwelcome effect "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Pretty much everything is down to diet and what you put in your body.
Too much "food like" products and not enough good food.
It's hard done in a world where everything sugary and processed is the norm and very affordable and everything healthy and organic costs extra.
I know I'm bordering on conspiracy here but we'd all be fine without the processed shit. Any ailments or sickness or disease is in large down to diet. So it's handy to feed us shit and then have us sick and spending money on medicines too.
Stay in school and eat your vegetables kids. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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True...I was diagnosed with A.D.D by a homeopathic doctor. A.D.D is the same but without the hyperactivity bit. He found it was down to sugar, yeast and monosdian glutimte. Those three things was feeding a bad bacteria in my stomach which was making me behave the way I did. When I cut out those three things on a strict diet, I got better.
So yeah I do believe the shit we eat now, is causing new age problems we are getting! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Pretty much everything is down to diet and what you put in your body.
Too much "food like" products and not enough good food.
It's hard done in a world where everything sugary and processed is the norm and very affordable and everything healthy and organic costs extra.
I know I'm bordering on conspiracy here but we'd all be fine without the processed shit. Any ailments or sickness or disease is in large down to diet. So it's handy to feed us shit and then have us sick and spending money on medicines too.
Stay in school and eat your vegetables kids. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"True...I was diagnosed with A.D.D by a homeopathic doctor. A.D.D is the same but without the hyperactivity bit. He found it was down to sugar, yeast and monosdian glutimte. Those three things was feeding a bad bacteria in my stomach which was making me behave the way I did. When I cut out those three things on a strict diet, I got better.
So yeah I do believe the shit we eat now, is causing new age problems we are getting!"
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"I've no idea but I always think these things are always a little bit dangerous because it then suggests it's people's own fault having certain conditions. "
Nah it’s not. This is why I ignore all this like I do on Facebook as it winds me up. There’s not much I don’t know about ADHD and Autism and a lot of the comments on this thread are assumptions, rubbish or plain ignorance |
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Of course processed food , refined sugar and chemical additives will have an adverse effect on any condition . They will undoubtably cause many conditions too if they are abused .
As someone else said , the next big news will be that alcohol causes one to get dr*nk . Unless you enjoy getting dr*nk if course , in which case you will be in your soapbox saying it doesn’t ! |
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"I've no idea but I always think these things are always a little bit dangerous because it then suggests it's people's own fault having certain conditions.
Nah it’s not. This is why I ignore all this like I do on Facebook as it winds me up. There’s not much I don’t know about ADHD and Autism and a lot of the comments on this thread are assumptions, rubbish or plain ignorance "
That's the point I was trying to make that people always want to blame the individual for why they have a certain condition.
For example it's their fault or the parents fault because they feed the kids too much sugar when in actual fact that is far from the truth.
As for people saying it wasn't around when they were kids, yes of course it was!
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"I've no idea but I always think these things are always a little bit dangerous because it then suggests it's people's own fault having certain conditions.
Nah it’s not. This is why I ignore all this like I do on Facebook as it winds me up. There’s not much I don’t know about ADHD and Autism and a lot of the comments on this thread are assumptions, rubbish or plain ignorance
That's the point I was trying to make that people always want to blame the individual for why they have a certain condition.
For example it's their fault or the parents fault because they feed the kids too much sugar when in actual fact that is far from the truth.
As for people saying it wasn't around when they were kids, yes of course it was!
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It just wasn’t acknowledged back then unfortunately. Considering we knew things weren’t as they should be when my child was still only on milk it’s unlikely it’s linked to sugar! I don’t deny that certain foods can trigger behaviours but for us it’s the sugar replacements not the sugar (ie aspartame) |
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"I've no idea but I always think these things are always a little bit dangerous because it then suggests it's people's own fault having certain conditions.
Nah it’s not. This is why I ignore all this like I do on Facebook as it winds me up. There’s not much I don’t know about ADHD and Autism and a lot of the comments on this thread are assumptions, rubbish or plain ignorance
That's the point I was trying to make that people always want to blame the individual for why they have a certain condition.
For example it's their fault or the parents fault because they feed the kids too much sugar when in actual fact that is far from the truth.
As for people saying it wasn't around when they were kids, yes of course it was!
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So you suggest that the parents feed their kids with loads of processed food , refined sugars and artificial additives then ?
There are so many studies that show we are what we eat , and that unprocessed , natural food is way better for all of us . More fresh fruit and vegetables , good protein ( fish , chicken , etc... ) , complex carbs from whole grains and not too much dairy is perfect .
I challenge anyone to find a decent study that advocates a diet high in sugar , processed ( white ) flour , and refined foods .
It’s just common sense to feed kids and ourselves with a healthy and nutritious diet without too much sugar . Sadly too many people think it doesn’t matter and cater to the whims and desires of their little angels , and they really aren’t doing them any favours at all . |
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"I've no idea but I always think these things are always a little bit dangerous because it then suggests it's people's own fault having certain conditions.
Nah it’s not. This is why I ignore all this like I do on Facebook as it winds me up. There’s not much I don’t know about ADHD and Autism and a lot of the comments on this thread are assumptions, rubbish or plain ignorance
That's the point I was trying to make that people always want to blame the individual for why they have a certain condition.
For example it's their fault or the parents fault because they feed the kids too much sugar when in actual fact that is far from the truth.
As for people saying it wasn't around when they were kids, yes of course it was!
So you suggest that the parents feed their kids with loads of processed food , refined sugars and artificial additives then ?
There are so many studies that show we are what we eat , and that unprocessed , natural food is way better for all of us . More fresh fruit and vegetables , good protein ( fish , chicken , etc... ) , complex carbs from whole grains and not too much dairy is perfect .
I challenge anyone to find a decent study that advocates a diet high in sugar , processed ( white ) flour , and refined foods .
It’s just common sense to feed kids and ourselves with a healthy and nutritious diet without too much sugar . Sadly too many people think it doesn’t matter and cater to the whims and desires of their little angels , and they really aren’t doing them any favours at all ."
Not sure who that was directed at but no I don’t. Neither myself or my kids have never had a “ready meal” in their life. Everything in proportion I think. McDonald’s is fine as a treat. Chocolate is fine as a treat. Too many parents give in for an easy life. I don’t even give in when the word no often means a 2 hour meltdown and something thrown at me or me being kicked the crap out of. |
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"Wasnt there a recent thread that said cancer is linked to sugar?
Has sugar become the new Brexit. Blamed for everything?  "
Like I said before. I’m a believer of everything in proportion. Of course too much of one certain thing can affect the body in all sorts of ways. Even water can! |
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I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful. |
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"I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful. "
. People who live with it just ignore it luckily. You have to. The phrase “everyone is entitled to an opinion” is bollocks. I’ve never believed that. As far as I’m concerned unless someone’s living my life or someone else’s life who is also living with these conditions they’re not entitled to an opinion at all because they have absolutely no idea. |
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"I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful.
. People who live with it just ignore it luckily. You have to. The phrase “everyone is entitled to an opinion” is bollocks. I’ve never believed that. As far as I’m concerned unless someone’s living my life or someone else’s life who is also living with these conditions they’re not entitled to an opinion at all because they have absolutely no idea. "
I couldn't agree with you more!
The other thing is things like ADHD and autism are on spectrums, so like everyone else in the population no two are the same.
People have preconceived ideas and if someone doesn't quite fit into that then people often say it's "their own fault" or seem to know better. |
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"I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful.
. People who live with it just ignore it luckily. You have to. The phrase “everyone is entitled to an opinion” is bollocks. I’ve never believed that. As far as I’m concerned unless someone’s living my life or someone else’s life who is also living with these conditions they’re not entitled to an opinion at all because they have absolutely no idea.
I couldn't agree with you more!
The other thing is things like ADHD and autism are on spectrums, so like everyone else in the population no two are the same.
People have preconceived ideas and if someone doesn't quite fit into that then people often say it's "their own fault" or seem to know better. "
Absolutely. And the spectrum is so wide! Most people are on the autistic spectrum somewhere. It includes OCD,ADHD,Aspergers, Tourette’s to name a few. Some autistic people can’t walk or talk but the other side of the spectrum you wouldn’t even know they had any issues. If you met my child walking down the street you’d have no idea, unfortunately people see physical disabilities more than they see mental disabilities and that’s what needs to change. The amount of looks and comments i get parking in a disabled space or walking straight through the airport security and check in. It used to bother me and I’d be in tears a lot of the time but you just get used to it and accept the ignorance of people unfortunately. |
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By *ewrocksWoman
over a year ago
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"I have ADHD and am proud . It is only a dash of ADHD, Doctors words not mine
Anyways yes totally agree, it is related to sugar and diet. Foods/drinks I cannot have are;
Lilt - the tropical drink
Liptons iced tea
Crispy Cream doughnuts
These make me hyper! years ago friends didn't believe me on the lilt so went to the garage brought some and made me drink a pint of the stuff, I told them that no matter what happens they are to blame... Lets just say I annoyed the hell out of them, wanted to go dancing and was bouncing of the walls, kept them up until 3/4am. They never let me lit again. Was at a festival years later and a drink was being passed around lilt with vodka, I went to take a swig and a friend who was there that fateful evening grabbed the bottle of me and said I am not going through that again!
Liptons iced tea, I discovered this in Greece many years ago.... was ironing (was there for 3 months working hol) and my friend asked me if I was ok... I was ironing a bit too enthusiastically apparently, singing away and making odd noises!
The best one is Crsipy Cream doughnuts, had two in a row, was fine that day ( I think I was). The following day I went to Kestrels with a friend and lets just say I went into child mode... While awaiting for him to get ready (pack his bag) I was spinning around in his small hallway like a kid does when bored of waiting. Then when at Kestrals I was doing spins in the swimming pool and making myself giddy, laughing and doing it again... Amazed I didn't drown!
So those are at the top of my avoid list, there are others that take me by surprise and when your at work having a reaction it can be very hard to sit still and be 'normal' I normal try to take a break and go somewhere til it subsides, not always possible though.
One of my dad's work mates had reactions to grapes, think they got taking about it at work, dad came home and mentioned it to mum and myself, I am ok with grapes both fermented and fresh
So yes living proof certain food/drinks have an unwelcome effect "
I react like that to some foods. Couldn't have smarties as a kid. I don't have adhd, i just react to some additives. |
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"I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful.
. People who live with it just ignore it luckily. You have to. The phrase “everyone is entitled to an opinion” is bollocks. I’ve never believed that. As far as I’m concerned unless someone’s living my life or someone else’s life who is also living with these conditions they’re not entitled to an opinion at all because they have absolutely no idea.
I couldn't agree with you more!
The other thing is things like ADHD and autism are on spectrums, so like everyone else in the population no two are the same.
People have preconceived ideas and if someone doesn't quite fit into that then people often say it's "their own fault" or seem to know better.
Absolutely. And the spectrum is so wide! Most people are on the autistic spectrum somewhere. It includes OCD,ADHD,Aspergers, Tourette’s to name a few. Some autistic people can’t walk or talk but the other side of the spectrum you wouldn’t even know they had any issues. If you met my child walking down the street you’d have no idea, unfortunately people see physical disabilities more than they see mental disabilities and that’s what needs to change. The amount of looks and comments i get parking in a disabled space or walking straight through the airport security and check in. It used to bother me and I’d be in tears a lot of the time but you just get used to it and accept the ignorance of people unfortunately. "
Again I find myself completely agreeing with you.
From personal experience I am very aware that certain people don't fit in to what others would consider autistic.
People will ask "are you sure" and "has it officially been diagnosed"! Well yes actually. But I agree with you it feels like a constant need to explain and justify.
To balance things out I do think there is more of an awareness that not all disabilities are visible.
I noticed the other day when I was in a supermarket, On the disabled toilet door it said "please remember not all disabilities are visible".
I think the problem is everybody feels like they are an expert on everybody else's conditions and problems. |
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"I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful.
. People who live with it just ignore it luckily. You have to. The phrase “everyone is entitled to an opinion” is bollocks. I’ve never believed that. As far as I’m concerned unless someone’s living my life or someone else’s life who is also living with these conditions they’re not entitled to an opinion at all because they have absolutely no idea.
I couldn't agree with you more!
The other thing is things like ADHD and autism are on spectrums, so like everyone else in the population no two are the same.
People have preconceived ideas and if someone doesn't quite fit into that then people often say it's "their own fault" or seem to know better.
Absolutely. And the spectrum is so wide! Most people are on the autistic spectrum somewhere. It includes OCD,ADHD,Aspergers, Tourette’s to name a few. Some autistic people can’t walk or talk but the other side of the spectrum you wouldn’t even know they had any issues. If you met my child walking down the street you’d have no idea, unfortunately people see physical disabilities more than they see mental disabilities and that’s what needs to change. The amount of looks and comments i get parking in a disabled space or walking straight through the airport security and check in. It used to bother me and I’d be in tears a lot of the time but you just get used to it and accept the ignorance of people unfortunately.
Again I find myself completely agreeing with you.
From personal experience I am very aware that certain people don't fit in to what others would consider autistic.
People will ask "are you sure" and "has it officially been diagnosed"! Well yes actually. But I agree with you it feels like a constant need to explain and justify.
To balance things out I do think there is more of an awareness that not all disabilities are visible.
I noticed the other day when I was in a supermarket, On the disabled toilet door it said "please remember not all disabilities are visible".
I think the problem is everybody feels like they are an expert on everybody else's conditions and problems. "
Definitely. That’s another thing. I need to use the disabled toilet with them as it’s impossible to both fit in a normal one now but they need me. Why should we be using it though because we look totally “normal”. A lot of people decide they have things without an official diagnosis too. I didn’t agree with the NHS on anything so we went private and it’s the best thing we ever did. Life is so much easier now we have a proper diagnosis and the correct medication. Just wish I’d done it years ago x |
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"I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful.
. People who live with it just ignore it luckily. You have to. The phrase “everyone is entitled to an opinion” is bollocks. I’ve never believed that. As far as I’m concerned unless someone’s living my life or someone else’s life who is also living with these conditions they’re not entitled to an opinion at all because they have absolutely no idea.
I couldn't agree with you more!
The other thing is things like ADHD and autism are on spectrums, so like everyone else in the population no two are the same.
People have preconceived ideas and if someone doesn't quite fit into that then people often say it's "their own fault" or seem to know better.
Absolutely. And the spectrum is so wide! Most people are on the autistic spectrum somewhere. It includes OCD,ADHD,Aspergers, Tourette’s to name a few. Some autistic people can’t walk or talk but the other side of the spectrum you wouldn’t even know they had any issues. If you met my child walking down the street you’d have no idea, unfortunately people see physical disabilities more than they see mental disabilities and that’s what needs to change. The amount of looks and comments i get parking in a disabled space or walking straight through the airport security and check in. It used to bother me and I’d be in tears a lot of the time but you just get used to it and accept the ignorance of people unfortunately.
Again I find myself completely agreeing with you.
From personal experience I am very aware that certain people don't fit in to what others would consider autistic.
People will ask "are you sure" and "has it officially been diagnosed"! Well yes actually. But I agree with you it feels like a constant need to explain and justify.
To balance things out I do think there is more of an awareness that not all disabilities are visible.
I noticed the other day when I was in a supermarket, On the disabled toilet door it said "please remember not all disabilities are visible".
I think the problem is everybody feels like they are an expert on everybody else's conditions and problems.
Definitely. That’s another thing. I need to use the disabled toilet with them as it’s impossible to both fit in a normal one now but they need me. Why should we be using it though because we look totally “normal”. A lot of people decide they have things without an official diagnosis too. I didn’t agree with the NHS on anything so we went private and it’s the best thing we ever did. Life is so much easier now we have a proper diagnosis and the correct medication. Just wish I’d done it years ago x"
Absolutely!
I know a friend who has hidden a condition will often use a normal toilet or not park in a disabled bay even though she has a disabled badge simply because she is sick of being challenged.
I didn't go down the private route but it did take a very long time and actually it is the best thing that ever happened.
When it comes to autism or anything that's on that spectrum, I now think most official diagnosis is come through the Autistic Society and also they are so helpful. X
I know this has gone off the subject slightly regarding sugar but I just think that maybe before people cast aspersions and just assume that they should stop and think about the effects of such opinions on others.
I don't mean with this thread, I just mean in life in general. |
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"I don't think anybody is advocating a high, fat high sugar diet!
I just don't think that always blaming parents or individuals for certain conditions is helping anybody.
We live in a blame culture and I just feel it's judgmental and unnecessary.
Of course anyone with any kind of condition can do things to help themselves, I'm not saying otherwise.
I just think some of these attitudes on this thread and others that have been similar are just unhelpful.
. People who live with it just ignore it luckily. You have to. The phrase “everyone is entitled to an opinion” is bollocks. I’ve never believed that. As far as I’m concerned unless someone’s living my life or someone else’s life who is also living with these conditions they’re not entitled to an opinion at all because they have absolutely no idea.
I couldn't agree with you more!
The other thing is things like ADHD and autism are on spectrums, so like everyone else in the population no two are the same.
People have preconceived ideas and if someone doesn't quite fit into that then people often say it's "their own fault" or seem to know better.
Absolutely. And the spectrum is so wide! Most people are on the autistic spectrum somewhere. It includes OCD,ADHD,Aspergers, Tourette’s to name a few. Some autistic people can’t walk or talk but the other side of the spectrum you wouldn’t even know they had any issues. If you met my child walking down the street you’d have no idea, unfortunately people see physical disabilities more than they see mental disabilities and that’s what needs to change. The amount of looks and comments i get parking in a disabled space or walking straight through the airport security and check in. It used to bother me and I’d be in tears a lot of the time but you just get used to it and accept the ignorance of people unfortunately.
Again I find myself completely agreeing with you.
From personal experience I am very aware that certain people don't fit in to what others would consider autistic.
People will ask "are you sure" and "has it officially been diagnosed"! Well yes actually. But I agree with you it feels like a constant need to explain and justify.
To balance things out I do think there is more of an awareness that not all disabilities are visible.
I noticed the other day when I was in a supermarket, On the disabled toilet door it said "please remember not all disabilities are visible".
I think the problem is everybody feels like they are an expert on everybody else's conditions and problems.
Definitely. That’s another thing. I need to use the disabled toilet with them as it’s impossible to both fit in a normal one now but they need me. Why should we be using it though because we look totally “normal”. A lot of people decide they have things without an official diagnosis too. I didn’t agree with the NHS on anything so we went private and it’s the best thing we ever did. Life is so much easier now we have a proper diagnosis and the correct medication. Just wish I’d done it years ago x
Absolutely!
I know a friend who has hidden a condition will often use a normal toilet or not park in a disabled bay even though she has a disabled badge simply because she is sick of being challenged.
I didn't go down the private route but it did take a very long time and actually it is the best thing that ever happened.
When it comes to autism or anything that's on that spectrum, I now think most official diagnosis is come through the Autistic Society and also they are so helpful. X
I know this has gone off the subject slightly regarding sugar but I just think that maybe before people cast aspersions and just assume that they should stop and think about the effects of such opinions on others.
I don't mean with this thread, I just mean in life in general."
Yeah I don’t park in disabled bays either when they’re with me to be honest. I don’t really feel the need. Someone will need it more than us I’m sure.
I agree. Whenever anyone asks what would you rid the world of if you could, my answer is always ignorance in all shapes and forms.
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My post wasn’t necessarily directed at anyone , just my observation . I would have said opinion but it seems I’m not supposed to have one on this thread ( )
I’ve brought up five kids , and two are on the autistuc spectrum . ADHD , and dyspraxia so I do have some experience of it . And I have no doubt diet and routine are major factors in helping .
I certainly see where Nora is coming from , and meltdowns over not being allowed chocolate or Coca Cola are common here too .
Secondary school is a nightmare , homework etc.... and too much sugar and we can’t get him to concentrate for more than two minutes , so a quiet ten minutes or a walk round the garden helps . If someone has given him sweets on the bus home from school and we’ve had it . It’ll be a couple of hours before he will be ready to concentrate on anything . So although some feel it doesn’t make any difference , it certainly does here . |
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"My post wasn’t necessarily directed at anyone , just my observation . I would have said opinion but it seems I’m not supposed to have one on this thread ( )
I’ve brought up five kids , and two are on the autistuc spectrum . ADHD , and dyspraxia so I do have some experience of it . And I have no doubt diet and routine are major factors in helping .
I certainly see where Nora is coming from , and meltdowns over not being allowed chocolate or Coca Cola are common here too .
Secondary school is a nightmare , homework etc.... and too much sugar and we can’t get him to concentrate for more than two minutes , so a quiet ten minutes or a walk round the garden helps . If someone has given him sweets on the bus home from school and we’ve had it . It’ll be a couple of hours before he will be ready to concentrate on anything . So although some feel it doesn’t make any difference , it certainly does here ."
Yeah definitely! Certain foods trigger here too. God of course you’re entitled to an opinion! You’re living with it! It’s the ones that aren’t who’s opinions mean buggar all. |
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"My post wasn’t necessarily directed at anyone , just my observation . I would have said opinion but it seems I’m not supposed to have one on this thread ( )
I’ve brought up five kids , and two are on the autistuc spectrum . ADHD , and dyspraxia so I do have some experience of it . And I have no doubt diet and routine are major factors in helping .
I certainly see where Nora is coming from , and meltdowns over not being allowed chocolate or Coca Cola are common here too .
Secondary school is a nightmare , homework etc.... and too much sugar and we can’t get him to concentrate for more than two minutes , so a quiet ten minutes or a walk round the garden helps . If someone has given him sweets on the bus home from school and we’ve had it . It’ll be a couple of hours before he will be ready to concentrate on anything . So although some feel it doesn’t make any difference , it certainly does here .
Yeah definitely! Certain foods trigger here too. God of course you’re entitled to an opinion! You’re living with it! It’s the ones that aren’t who’s opinions mean buggar all. "
Absolutely and yes obviously a sugar filled Diet is not good for anybody.
I have to say I haven't made a personal link between my condition and food although I am on a fairly low sugar diet now but I wouldn't necessarily say it's improved things, but my health in general has which I guess is all linked. |
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"My post wasn’t necessarily directed at anyone , just my observation . I would have said opinion but it seems I’m not supposed to have one on this thread ( )
I’ve brought up five kids , and two are on the autistuc spectrum . ADHD , and dyspraxia so I do have some experience of it . And I have no doubt diet and routine are major factors in helping .
I certainly see where Nora is coming from , and meltdowns over not being allowed chocolate or Coca Cola are common here too .
Secondary school is a nightmare , homework etc.... and too much sugar and we can’t get him to concentrate for more than two minutes , so a quiet ten minutes or a walk round the garden helps . If someone has given him sweets on the bus home from school and we’ve had it . It’ll be a couple of hours before he will be ready to concentrate on anything . So although some feel it doesn’t make any difference , it certainly does here .
Yeah definitely! Certain foods trigger here too. God of course you’re entitled to an opinion! You’re living with it! It’s the ones that aren’t who’s opinions mean buggar all.
Absolutely and yes obviously a sugar filled Diet is not good for anybody.
I have to say I haven't made a personal link between my condition and food although I am on a fairly low sugar diet now but I wouldn't necessarily say it's improved things, but my health in general has which I guess is all linked. "
So can I just clarify I do very much believe that too much sugar or additives can be triggers, I just don't think that sugar causes the condition. |
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"My post wasn’t necessarily directed at anyone , just my observation . I would have said opinion but it seems I’m not supposed to have one on this thread ( )
I’ve brought up five kids , and two are on the autistuc spectrum . ADHD , and dyspraxia so I do have some experience of it . And I have no doubt diet and routine are major factors in helping .
I certainly see where Nora is coming from , and meltdowns over not being allowed chocolate or Coca Cola are common here too .
Secondary school is a nightmare , homework etc.... and too much sugar and we can’t get him to concentrate for more than two minutes , so a quiet ten minutes or a walk round the garden helps . If someone has given him sweets on the bus home from school and we’ve had it . It’ll be a couple of hours before he will be ready to concentrate on anything . So although some feel it doesn’t make any difference , it certainly does here .
Yeah definitely! Certain foods trigger here too. God of course you’re entitled to an opinion! You’re living with it! It’s the ones that aren’t who’s opinions mean buggar all.
Absolutely and yes obviously a sugar filled Diet is not good for anybody.
I have to say I haven't made a personal link between my condition and food although I am on a fairly low sugar diet now but I wouldn't necessarily say it's improved things, but my health in general has which I guess is all linked.
So can I just clarify I do very much believe that too much sugar or additives can be triggers, I just don't think that sugar causes the condition. "
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"True...I was diagnosed with A.D.D by a homeopathic doctor. A.D.D is the same but without the hyperactivity bit. He found it was down to sugar, yeast and monosdian glutimte. Those three things was feeding a bad bacteria in my stomach which was making me behave the way I did. When I cut out those three things on a strict diet, I got better.
So yeah I do believe the shit we eat now, is causing new age problems we are getting!"
A homeopathic doctor, not a medically trained doctor? I wasn't aware they were permitted to diagnose people with neurological developmental conditions? |
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"True...I was diagnosed with A.D.D by a homeopathic doctor. A.D.D is the same but without the hyperactivity bit. He found it was down to sugar, yeast and monosdian glutimte. Those three things was feeding a bad bacteria in my stomach which was making me behave the way I did. When I cut out those three things on a strict diet, I got better.
So yeah I do believe the shit we eat now, is causing new age problems we are getting!"
I have autism, as does my mum, dad, eldest son and two of my siblings. We were born with it. You can't get 'better' from neurological developmental conditions, they are always there. The symptoms can be managed but not cured. |
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"True...I was diagnosed with A.D.D by a homeopathic doctor. A.D.D is the same but without the hyperactivity bit. He found it was down to sugar, yeast and monosdian glutimte. Those three things was feeding a bad bacteria in my stomach which was making me behave the way I did. When I cut out those three things on a strict diet, I got better.
So yeah I do believe the shit we eat now, is causing new age problems we are getting!
I have autism, as does my mum, dad, eldest son and two of my siblings. We were born with it. You can't get 'better' from neurological developmental conditions, they are always there. The symptoms can be managed but not cured. "
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All sorts affects a growing embryo. Not just food or the chemicals that come with those but also stress and other hormones because they are also chemicals. You'd be surprised what can affect DNA, even it just regenerating causes millions of mistakes every day but they usually seem to do nothing. |
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"All sorts affects a growing embryo. Not just food or the chemicals that come with those but also stress and other hormones because they are also chemicals. You'd be surprised what can affect DNA, even it just regenerating causes millions of mistakes every day but they usually seem to do nothing."
I put mine down to the the birth. It was horrendous and turned into a big emergency. Then they stopped breathing half an hour later and were rushed away. Followed by a week of ambulances and hospitals due to breathing problems. There is no history of mental health problems on either side of the families. The thing is, as much as I’m convinced it was that, I’ll never know. |
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"Diet, lifestyle, culture, environment - all determine how we go about our lives and more critically, how our children do too."
But none of these things cause autism or ADHD! |
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"Diet, lifestyle, culture, environment - all determine how we go about our lives and more critically, how our children do too.
But none of these things cause autism or ADHD! "
"The causes of ADHD are not established but genetic and environmental factors are thought to play a role. This study suggests that restricting certain food substances could improve symptoms in some children. Importantly, if parents of children with ADHD want to investigate if this is the case for their child, they are advised to consult their doctor first, rather than choosing which foods to eliminate themselves.
The study found a clear reduction in ADHD symptom scores in children following the five-week restriction diet. In comparison, the control group assigned to being given healthy dietary advice showed no reduction."
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"Do you have a link, OP? "
No I dont. I read it in a book called sugar blues, it us very intetesting, it is not just about adhd but about what sugar does to your body.
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"I read another interesting article that adhd is linked to sugar, they did an experiment where few didnt get sugar and as a result they got very calm, many of these modern problems is down to sugar and when fast food became available, whats your view?
A load of bollox
Yup
Utter nonsense"
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My sugar intake is ridiculous! If it caused ADHD, I'd be bouncing off the walls! I'm not. |
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Total pish. I take 6 sugar in ma tea and was brought up drinking full sugar irn bru (RIP) and still only drink full sugar drinks and I don’t have it.
Think like wae most mental and behavioural conditions it’s some issue ye were created wi in the womb. Obvs life style and trauma in early years can affect it too but am defo a believer of it being more of a genetic thing than an effect of a stimulant of some kind
Jus ma opinion tho |
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"Used to know a kid with ADHD. In my opinion it's linked to being an annoying little shit."
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"Used to know a kid with ADHD. In my opinion it's linked to being an annoying little shit.'
Great to see people are so openly ignorant about mental illness! "
He used to steal and start fires.
He was an annoying little shit. |
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"Total pish. I take 6 sugar in ma tea and was brought up drinking full sugar irn bru (RIP) and still only drink full sugar drinks and I don’t have it.
Think like wae most mental and behavioural conditions it’s some issue ye were created wi in the womb. Obvs life style and trauma in early years can affect it too but am defo a believer of it being more of a genetic thing than an effect of a stimulant of some kind
Jus ma opinion tho "
Cutting their sugar probably just cuts off their energy to act on their low attention span, giving it to them gives them the energy to act on their low attention span.
Your brain uses sugar as an energy, so starving the brain of energy would obviously slow them down. |
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"Used to know a kid with ADHD. In my opinion it's linked to being an annoying little shit.'
Great to see people are so openly ignorant about mental illness! "
ADHD is not a mental illness....its a neurological development disorder |
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"Used to know a kid with ADHD. In my opinion it's linked to being an annoying little shit.'
Great to see people are so openly ignorant about mental illness!
ADHD is not a mental illness....its a neurological development disorder"
actually a behavioral disorder |
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"Used to know a kid with ADHD. In my opinion it's linked to being an annoying little shit."
It’s comments like that that highlight the ignorance I was talking about. I hope you never have to live everyday with a child with special needs. |
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A lot of kids these days get diagnosed with adhd coz it's an easy get out for doctors but most of them will actually have some form of autism if parents pushed a lot harder to get a proper diagnosis they would find this my oldest was diagnosed with adhd from a young age and I wouldn't accept their diagnosis so I pushed and eventually they tested him properly and hey presto we got the results and he was autistic as we expected with the knowledge that you can get from different courses you can have a much easier life as its hard work and even harder if you don't know how to deal with it
And you do get the shallow minded people looking at you when they kick off in the shops |
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"A lot of kids these days get diagnosed with adhd coz it's an easy get out for doctors but most of them will actually have some form of autism if parents pushed a lot harder to get a proper diagnosis they would find this my oldest was diagnosed with adhd from a young age and I wouldn't accept their diagnosis so I pushed and eventually they tested him properly and hey presto we got the results and he was autistic as we expected with the knowledge that you can get from different courses you can have a much easier life as its hard work and even harder if you don't know how to deal with it
And you do get the shallow minded people looking at you when they kick off in the shops "
ADHD is on the autistic spectrum |
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I will call bullshit, i rarely take sugar except in social environment. i have not buy a single pack of sugar for over 10years yet i am hyperactive though i do eat lots and lots of fruits.
As a fitness fanatic like yourself you will know the cleaner you meal the more energy you have. |
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"I will call bullshit, i rarely take sugar except in social environment. i have not buy a single pack of sugar for over 10years yet i am hyperactive though i do eat lots and lots of fruits.
As a fitness fanatic like yourself you will know the cleaner you meal the more energy you have."
It's not about how much energy you have but one's ability or lack of in controlling it. I've plenty of energy and yes I do eat cleanly but it doesn't manifest itself in that way. Sugar does effect ones energy levels and not in a way one can naturally control. White sugar is also very bad for you. One of its side effects is it can leave the body in a form of cold turkey and the body is begging for more sugar. |
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ADHD has uncertain provenance, with genetic and environmental aspects to it - it's also not a uniform condition and its different types may have separate causes. It's probably not caused by one thing.
I've not seen this study but know there's a strong movement against this awful condition and other medical problems - the media reports typically don't report accurately.
Take public reports with a pinch of salt Shag |
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Now that I think about it, I remember that my niece was completely hyper as a little one. My sister was advised (I'm not sure by whom) to cut out anything yellow or orange, from my niece's diet, and hey Preston, normal child! This wasn't just food colouring, it was fruit too. Give her an orange and she turned into Satan's daughter!  |
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"All sorts affects a growing embryo. Not just food or the chemicals that come with those but also stress and other hormones because they are also chemicals. You'd be surprised what can affect DNA, even it just regenerating causes millions of mistakes every day but they usually seem to do nothing.
I put mine down to the the birth. It was horrendous and turned into a big emergency. Then they stopped breathing half an hour later and were rushed away. Followed by a week of ambulances and hospitals due to breathing problems. There is no history of mental health problems on either side of the families. The thing is, as much as I’m convinced it was that, I’ll never know. "
You're more likely to know the cause than the professionals at this time. But i think in my lifetime we will have a very good idea of what causes most neurological conditions. |
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