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"I used to However seen too many bad things happen to good people and too many unsavoury people seemingly never getting their just desserts." Yes bad things happen to good people sadly that’s life Mrscxxx | |||
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"No, it's all random. Plenty of arseholes never get their just desserts." Yep. When anyone tells me karma is at work in the universe I always think of the aid workers taken and murdered. | |||
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"i think _icecouple561 pinched all my sweets" Oh God, is that why all my teeth just fell out  | |||
"No, it's all random. Plenty of arseholes never get their just desserts. Yep. When anyone tells me karma is at work in the universe I always think of the aid workers taken and murdered." Indeed. What always gets me is when there is some major disaster where loads of people die and one of survivors says that God saved him. What did God have against the people who didn't survive? | |||
"No, it's all random. Plenty of arseholes never get their just desserts. Yep. When anyone tells me karma is at work in the universe I always think of the aid workers taken and murdered. Indeed. What always gets me is when there is some major disaster where loads of people die and one of survivors says that God saved him. What did God have against the people who didn't survive? " Yes this pisses me off too! The highly trained surgeon has just spent 6 hours saving your pet tortoise and the first thing they say is “thank god” If god had a plan then why the fuck is everyone praying? | |||
"No, it's all random. Plenty of arseholes never get their just desserts. Yep. When anyone tells me karma is at work in the universe I always think of the aid workers taken and murdered. Indeed. What always gets me is when there is some major disaster where loads of people die and one of survivors says that God saved him. What did God have against the people who didn't survive? " That's the subtext of karma and why I hate it. That if you suffer you deserve it. Bollocks to that. | |||
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"No, it's all random. Plenty of arseholes never get their just desserts. Yep. When anyone tells me karma is at work in the universe I always think of the aid workers taken and murdered. Indeed. What always gets me is when there is some major disaster where loads of people die and one of survivors says that God saved him. What did God have against the people who didn't survive? Yes this pisses me off too! The highly trained surgeon has just spent 6 hours saving your pet tortoise and the first thing they say is “thank god” If god had a plan then why the fuck is everyone praying?" When I did criminal defence work and got one of my clients off there were always some who thanked God or Jesus. Hello, its actually your militant atheist lawyer who saved you from being a guest of her majesty... | |||
"No, it's all random. Plenty of arseholes never get their just desserts. Yep. When anyone tells me karma is at work in the universe I always think of the aid workers taken and murdered. Indeed. What always gets me is when there is some major disaster where loads of people die and one of survivors says that God saved him. What did God have against the people who didn't survive? " Ah yes, the miracle. Like it atones for everything else. | |||
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"You make your bed you lie in.... Does the Kama sutra count!? "counts up to 69 | |||
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"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol " In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. | |||
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"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol " Bang on point x | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. " Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made." If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. | |||
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"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence ." That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. " We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? " Only if they're too stupid to not notice what reality is. | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? " More like Santa then rather than Karma. | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative." Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? " That sounds like religion | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? Only if they're too stupid to not notice what reality is." If you get kids young enough and insist something is true, a large number of them will continue to believe it as adults in the teeth of all evidence. That's how religion works. | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion" It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion" I deliberately didn’t suggest religion as that has never been lower on the agenda in the western world . I can’t see the harm in trying to educate children that doing the right thing is way better than doing the wrong thing , and if the belief in karma or something similar helps instill this then it can’t do anything but good . | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? " Why not ? | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? Why not ? " Because telling kids lies might have bad repercussions later on. | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? Why not ? Because telling kids lies might have bad repercussions later on. " Yeah I get that , hence why I would prefer not to use the word God . But if we instilled a belief in what goes round comes round then it could only be a good thing surely . It’s a simple moral code of conduct . | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? Why not ? Because telling kids lies might have bad repercussions later on. Yeah I get that , hence why I would prefer not to use the word God . But if we instilled a belief in what goes round comes round then it could only be a good thing surely . It’s a simple moral code of conduct ." Except people would soon realise it wasn't true and then start to question all the morality instilled in them.. | |||
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"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? " That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) | |||
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"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough)" OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? " Is this to fix it or is this to explain it? | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? Is this to fix it or is this to explain it?" Fix it. My point is that even the most "spiritual" person relies on science far more than karma or such line things. | |||
"Some one who wronged me is getting there karma right now while part of me feels sorry for them because I wouldn’t wish what we have been through on my worst enemy it’s karma and that’s ok with me Mrscxxx " I do, and right now, I'm hoping she works swiftly. Today a man, who was totaly negligent, has admitted he got it wrong, resulting in the deaths of 11 people. 2 of which were my best friends. Has walked from court, a free man. I'm numb, I've cried, I've screamed, I've punched a hole in the door. I hope karma deals him what is due. | |||
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"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? Is this to fix it or is this to explain it? Fix it. My point is that even the most "spiritual" person relies on science far more than karma or such line things. " The question wasn't about which we rely on more or not, but to answer your question, your example was purely a science fixing example, if I asked you what would you do in your last minutes knowing you plane was crashing what would you do to try and fix it? | |||
"Some one who wronged me is getting there karma right now while part of me feels sorry for them because I wouldn’t wish what we have been through on my worst enemy it’s karma and that’s ok with me Mrscxxx I do, and right now, I'm hoping she works swiftly. Today a man, who was totaly negligent, has admitted he got it wrong, resulting in the deaths of 11 people. 2 of which were my best friends. Has walked from court, a free man. I'm numb, I've cried, I've screamed, I've punched a hole in the door. I hope karma deals him what is due. " Is your hope now based on the result that 'science' didn't punish him and now you hope Karma is there as a backup? | |||
"Some one who wronged me is getting there karma right now while part of me feels sorry for them because I wouldn’t wish what we have been through on my worst enemy it’s karma and that’s ok with me Mrscxxx I do, and right now, I'm hoping she works swiftly. Today a man, who was totaly negligent, has admitted he got it wrong, resulting in the deaths of 11 people. 2 of which were my best friends. Has walked from court, a free man. I'm numb, I've cried, I've screamed, I've punched a hole in the door. I hope karma deals him what is due. Is your hope now based on the result that 'science' didn't punish him and now you hope Karma is there as a backup?" I/We had hoped justice would be served. It hasn't. I have always believed in karma, that your actions will eventually catch up on you, that you reap what you sow. All I know right now is that a man, through his own negligence killed 11 people, it was witnessed by 1000s, many of which who were close by are still receiving help for what they saw. Families have been destroyed, children growing up without fathers, a community ripped apart. | |||
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"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? Is this to fix it or is this to explain it? Fix it. My point is that even the most "spiritual" person relies on science far more than karma or such line things. The question wasn't about which we rely on more or not, but to answer your question, your example was purely a science fixing example, if I asked you what would you do in your last minutes knowing you plane was crashing what would you do to try and fix it?" There obviously isn't a fix. All organic beings die. Why should it be otherwise? | |||
"To an extent OP yes. I think more along the lines of you reap what you sew. As in, do good and act right and things will go your way, go through life acting the maggot and you can expect a hard time of it." That explains a lot, im fucked. | |||
"Some one who wronged me is getting there karma right now while part of me feels sorry for them because I wouldn’t wish what we have been through on my worst enemy it’s karma and that’s ok with me Mrscxxx " If you believe in karma you'll never get revenge. | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? Is this to fix it or is this to explain it? Fix it. My point is that even the most "spiritual" person relies on science far more than karma or such line things. The question wasn't about which we rely on more or not, but to answer your question, your example was purely a science fixing example, if I asked you what would you do in your last minutes knowing you plane was crashing what would you do to try and fix it? There obviously isn't a fix. All organic beings die. Why should it be otherwise? " For those who are fatalistic and those who do not believe in 'God', I'd agree, however there are those who have a different set of values and beliefs so they may disagree with your first statement. Are they wrong? | |||
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"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? Why not ? Because telling kids lies might have bad repercussions later on. Yeah I get that , hence why I would prefer not to use the word God . But if we instilled a belief in what goes round comes round then it could only be a good thing surely . It’s a simple moral code of conduct . Except people would soon realise it wasn't true and then start to question all the morality instilled in them.. " The perpetrators of some of the most despicable crimes can surely have no moral compass . So by that reckoning anything that may help them have this has to be good . I had it instilled in me , as did others on this thread , and neither they nor I have questioned the morality instilled in us . | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? Why not ? Because telling kids lies might have bad repercussions later on. Yeah I get that , hence why I would prefer not to use the word God . But if we instilled a belief in what goes round comes round then it could only be a good thing surely . It’s a simple moral code of conduct . Except people would soon realise it wasn't true and then start to question all the morality instilled in them.. The perpetrators of some of the most despicable crimes can surely have no moral compass . So by that reckoning anything that may help them have this has to be good . I had it instilled in me , as did others on this thread , and neither they nor I have questioned the morality instilled in us . " But if they have no moral compass why on earth do you think lying to them about morality would make any difference? | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? Is this to fix it or is this to explain it? Fix it. My point is that even the most "spiritual" person relies on science far more than karma or such line things. The question wasn't about which we rely on more or not, but to answer your question, your example was purely a science fixing example, if I asked you what would you do in your last minutes knowing you plane was crashing what would you do to try and fix it? There obviously isn't a fix. All organic beings die. Why should it be otherwise? For those who are fatalistic and those who do not believe in 'God', I'd agree, however there are those who have a different set of values and beliefs so they may disagree with your first statement. Are they wrong? " If they believe that God exists and they as individuals will survive death, then yes, on the evidence they are wrong. Obviously such beliefs may provide them with comfort, but they are still wrong. | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? Is this to fix it or is this to explain it? Fix it. My point is that even the most "spiritual" person relies on science far more than karma or such line things. The question wasn't about which we rely on more or not, but to answer your question, your example was purely a science fixing example, if I asked you what would you do in your last minutes knowing you plane was crashing what would you do to try and fix it? There obviously isn't a fix. All organic beings die. Why should it be otherwise? For those who are fatalistic and those who do not believe in 'God', I'd agree, however there are those who have a different set of values and beliefs so they may disagree with your first statement. Are they wrong? If they believe that God exists and they as individuals will survive death, then yes, on the evidence they are wrong. Obviously such beliefs may provide them with comfort, but they are still wrong. " So you don't believe in miracles of supernatural interventions. Some do and some have experienced those, but you'd say they were just coincidence/chance aversions which you'd base upon science. But that doesn't necessarily prove they're wrong, just means you can't explain it any other way. | |||
"Interesting reading through this post. A couple thoughts came to mind while reading some answers. 1. Does something exist or not exist because I don't believe in it? 2. Is my knowledge and understanding sufficient enough to adamantly say something exists or doesn't. 3. After answering those two am I still in a position to say someone else who may have a greater or lesser experience be wrong in their opinion? 4. Just because I do or don't believe in something, does that have any bearing on whether it exists or not? I'm not working to day and meet entertained lol In the absence of evidence and where a system is difficult to find evidence for by its very nature, I think refusal to abide existence is a valid psychological approach. Maybe but doesn't necessarily change the existence of something, simple it's just an opinion whereas the existence of something may still remain. Sometimes the evidence isn't valid or isn't substantiating evidence. It way also be skewed by assumptions which are then taken as fact or assumed as fact and a faulty case for something is made. If I have no evidence whether something exists or not, then it may or may not exist. I have no evidence for karma, but the kind of thing it is means I may not, because spiritual things tend to be immune from the normal rules. Besides whether it exists though, it's a values system. Do I accept it? Emphatically, no. I think it's wicked. We in the west have tried to put everything in the same box of rational and think science can explain everything. Think that's the first mistake and false assumption. Secondly assuming science is right too is another dodgy assumption since my h of science is formulated not on evidence but by assumptions which are often assumed as correct. In Maths we get 1 mark for correct answer but 4 for correct process. In science we often give 4 for answer and 1 for process, and because we get the answer we were looking for we assume the process is correct, ifou get what I mean. What makes it wicked? That implies it's deliberately harmful, yet it's neither deliberate nor is it only negative. Karma is taught as both positive and negative. Science is our best approach to truth because it works. If you get ill do you go to a doctor or do you rely on karma? That's purely a western thinking approach, imbalanced. They are two different systems. Unfortunately, generally the western way is in the box closed system of thought which excludes anything else. I wouldn't always go to the doctor, many illnesses are not best treated with tablets, some physical illnesses are caused by thought misalignment. Cause and effect (which is a foundation of western science, as it is with say Karma too funny enough) OK what if you break your leg. Doctor or karma? Is this to fix it or is this to explain it? Fix it. My point is that even the most "spiritual" person relies on science far more than karma or such line things. The question wasn't about which we rely on more or not, but to answer your question, your example was purely a science fixing example, if I asked you what would you do in your last minutes knowing you plane was crashing what would you do to try and fix it? There obviously isn't a fix. All organic beings die. Why should it be otherwise? For those who are fatalistic and those who do not believe in 'God', I'd agree, however there are those who have a different set of values and beliefs so they may disagree with your first statement. Are they wrong? If they believe that God exists and they as individuals will survive death, then yes, on the evidence they are wrong. Obviously such beliefs may provide them with comfort, but they are still wrong. So you don't believe in miracles of supernatural interventions. Some do and some have experienced those, but you'd say they were just coincidence/chance aversions which you'd base upon science. But that doesn't necessarily prove they're wrong, just means you can't explain it any other way." On the evidence I would say they are wrong. There's no evidence for any supernatural intervention in the natural world. All you can say about religion is that, to a believer, it may be "true" in the subjective sense that it helps him make sense of his life. It's never true in an objective sense. | |||
"I think if people treat others badly there's an inevitability that it will ultimately catch up with them. It doesn't always follow, look at Trump I bet there are plenty wishing he gets back what they think he deserves. It's not an exact science. "  | |||
"I think if people treat others badly there's an inevitability that it will ultimately catch up with them. It doesn't always follow, look at Trump I bet there are plenty wishing he gets back what they think he deserves. It's not an exact science. "Maybe Trump IS karma...??? | |||
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"I think if people treat others badly there's an inevitability that it will ultimately catch up with them. It doesn't always follow, look at Trump I bet there are plenty wishing he gets back what they think he deserves. It's not an exact science.
Maybe Trump IS karma...??? "I'm not a supporter by any means, but following the rules of karma, he's a creation, something made him giant orange knob..... No? | |||
"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. " Depends who's the judge of bad? | |||
"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. Depends who's the judge of bad? " Some things are just bad like murder R#pe and torture.Many of these crimes never get solved.General pinochet was guilty of all of them he died of old age wealthy and comfortable. Karma is bullshit | |||
"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. Depends who's the judge of bad? Some things are just bad like murder R#pe and torture.Many of these crimes never get solved.General pinochet was guilty of all of them he died of old age wealthy and comfortable. Karma is bullshit " Probably a total wanker, but what was HIS view of himself? That's why karma looks distorted to "regular, decent folk". If you take into account that as lot of bad ppl actually think they're good then it kinda all fits like a jigsaw..... | |||
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"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. Depends who's the judge of bad? Some things are just bad like murder R#pe and torture.Many of these crimes never get solved.General pinochet was guilty of all of them he died of old age wealthy and comfortable. Karma is bullshit Probably a total wanker, but what was HIS view of himself? That's why karma looks distorted to "regular, decent folk". If you take into account that as lot of bad ppl actually think they're good then it kinda all fits like a jigsaw..... " 25 % of all murders in UK go unsolved in the US your have a 40% chance of getting away with murder .Only 9% of crimes end with suspects being charged or summonsed in England and Wales, Home Office figures suggest. Wheres your karma ??? | |||
"I think karma is more about consequences of your actions rather than punishment. For example, if you're a dickhead to people all your life you more than likely will end up alone, or at least surrounded by people who don't really care for you. As the saying goes, "Be good to the people on your way up the ladder, 'cause you meet them on your way down."" Sorry in advance, I'm feeling mischievous, but...... What if you're nice to dickheads? How does that pan out? | |||
"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. Depends who's the judge of bad? Some things are just bad like murder R#pe and torture.Many of these crimes never get solved.General pinochet was guilty of all of them he died of old age wealthy and comfortable. Karma is bullshit Probably a total wanker, but what was HIS view of himself? That's why karma looks distorted to "regular, decent folk". If you take into account that as lot of bad ppl actually think they're good then it kinda all fits like a jigsaw..... 25 % of all murders in UK go unsolved in the US your have a 40% chance of getting away with murder .Only 9% of crimes end with suspects being charged or summonsed in England and Wales, Home Office figures suggest. Wheres your karma ???" You missed my point, I've no idea on % crime stats, I'm just sayin..... Bad ppl don't think/know they're bad, and some other ppl don't, like one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter etc.... The girl who murders her husband is doing it in her mind because he's cheated on her and beem evil.... you need to factor that shit in...... | |||
"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. Depends who's the judge of bad? Some things are just bad like murder R#pe and torture.Many of these crimes never get solved.General pinochet was guilty of all of them he died of old age wealthy and comfortable. Karma is bullshit Probably a total wanker, but what was HIS view of himself? That's why karma looks distorted to "regular, decent folk". If you take into account that as lot of bad ppl actually think they're good then it kinda all fits like a jigsaw..... 25 % of all murders in UK go unsolved in the US your have a 40% chance of getting away with murder .Only 9% of crimes end with suspects being charged or summonsed in England and Wales, Home Office figures suggest. Wheres your karma ??? You missed my point, I've no idea on % crime stats, I'm just sayin..... Bad ppl don't think/know they're bad, and some other ppl don't, like one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter etc.... The girl who murders her husband is doing it in her mind because he's cheated on her and beem evil.... you need to factor that shit in...... " My point you seem to be unable to grasp is if you murder someone in the states you have a 40 % chance of getting away with it .If karma was a real thing you would not be getting away with it. It's very simple karma is bullocks. Just look around the world. Unless Karma for you only works on the insignificant shit like somebody stealing your car parking space and then the offender getting a flat tyre on the way home .If so why does karma avoid all the suffering in the world. I Suppose you could say all the starving kids did some bad shit but that would make karma a utter dick in the causality stakes. . | |||
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"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. Depends who's the judge of bad? Some things are just bad like murder R#pe and torture.Many of these crimes never get solved.General pinochet was guilty of all of them he died of old age wealthy and comfortable. Karma is bullshit Probably a total wanker, but what was HIS view of himself? That's why karma looks distorted to "regular, decent folk". If you take into account that as lot of bad ppl actually think they're good then it kinda all fits like a jigsaw..... 25 % of all murders in UK go unsolved in the US your have a 40% chance of getting away with murder .Only 9% of crimes end with suspects being charged or summonsed in England and Wales, Home Office figures suggest. Wheres your karma ??? You missed my point, I've no idea on % crime stats, I'm just sayin..... Bad ppl don't think/know they're bad, and some other ppl don't, like one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter etc.... The girl who murders her husband is doing it in her mind because he's cheated on her and beem evil.... you need to factor that shit in...... My point you seem to be unable to grasp is if you murder someone in the states you have a 40 % chance of getting away with it .If karma was a real thing you would not be getting away with it. It's very simple karma is bullocks. Just look around the world. Unless Karma for you only works on the insignificant shit like somebody stealing your car parking space and then the offender getting a flat tyre on the way home .If so why does karma avoid all the suffering in the world. I Suppose you could say all the starving kids did some bad shit but that would make karma a utter dick in the causality stakes. . " ......smh...... Think big my friend, think more than you think you can think, then think some more about what you thought you thought and then you'll be free to impart some true wisdom on the world...... | |||
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"I look at the world around me and if karma was a real thing it would look completely different . I think this concept that bad things will happen to bad people does more harm than good. Depends who's the judge of bad? Some things are just bad like murder R#pe and torture.Many of these crimes never get solved.General pinochet was guilty of all of them he died of old age wealthy and comfortable. Karma is bullshit Probably a total wanker, but what was HIS view of himself? That's why karma looks distorted to "regular, decent folk". If you take into account that as lot of bad ppl actually think they're good then it kinda all fits like a jigsaw..... 25 % of all murders in UK go unsolved in the US your have a 40% chance of getting away with murder .Only 9% of crimes end with suspects being charged or summonsed in England and Wales, Home Office figures suggest. Wheres your karma ??? You missed my point, I've no idea on % crime stats, I'm just sayin..... Bad ppl don't think/know they're bad, and some other ppl don't, like one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter etc.... The girl who murders her husband is doing it in her mind because he's cheated on her and beem evil.... you need to factor that shit in...... My point you seem to be unable to grasp is if you murder someone in the states you have a 40 % chance of getting away with it .If karma was a real thing you would not be getting away with it. It's very simple karma is bullocks. Just look around the world. Unless Karma for you only works on the insignificant shit like somebody stealing your car parking space and then the offender getting a flat tyre on the way home .If so why does karma avoid all the suffering in the world. I Suppose you could say all the starving kids did some bad shit but that would make karma a utter dick in the causality stakes. . ......smh...... Think big my friend, think more than you think you can think, then think some more about what you thought you thought and then you'll be free to impart some true wisdom on the world...... " Yeah I'm open minded but not so open minded my brain falls out. | |||
"I think karma is more about consequences of your actions rather than punishment. For example, if you're a dickhead to people all your life you more than likely will end up alone, or at least surrounded by people who don't really care for you. As the saying goes, "Be good to the people on your way up the ladder, 'cause you meet them on your way down." Sorry in advance, I'm feeling mischievous, but...... What if you're nice to dickheads? How does that pan out? " Eventually you learn that they are not worth your time and effort, but you can be happy in yourself knowing you gave them a chance, and another person who was willing to be kind to them walks out of their life. | |||
"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? Why not ? Because telling kids lies might have bad repercussions later on. Yeah I get that , hence why I would prefer not to use the word God . But if we instilled a belief in what goes round comes round then it could only be a good thing surely . It’s a simple moral code of conduct ." On the whole good parenting instils a belief in treating others as you would like to be treated yourself. Is fear of a negative outcome enough to instil the motivation that would be necessary to combat things such as knife crime. | |||
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"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? " Well we tell them father christmas. | |||
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"It’s a shame more people don’t have some kind of belief in what goes round comes round . Maybe kids wouldn’t be going round stabbing each other to death if they thought there may be some deeper consequence . That's an interesting point. Should we inculcate beliefs into people that we are know not true if the existence of such beliefs would have a good moral effect? That sounds like religion It is, but an interesting point. Say we had good evidence to believe that we could reduce knife crime by 90% if we tell five year olds that if they carry a knife God will strike them dead, should we do that? Why not ? Because telling kids lies might have bad repercussions later on. Yeah I get that , hence why I would prefer not to use the word God . But if we instilled a belief in what goes round comes round then it could only be a good thing surely . It’s a simple moral code of conduct . On the whole good parenting instils a belief in treating others as you would like to be treated yourself. Is fear of a negative outcome enough to instil the motivation that would be necessary to combat things such as knife crime. " I don’t think it would combat knife crime all together . But if it stopped stopped some of it because the potential perpetrator thought twice before taking another persons life , then I think it’s worth considering . I can totally see why religion exists . | |||
"I used to However seen too many bad things happen to good people and too many unsavoury people seemingly never getting their just desserts." Very much this..
But I'm sure it works occasionally
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"Religion has nothing to do with it." Tell that to a Buddhist | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist " Buddhism isn't a relegion darling. | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling. "It’s the fourth largest religion in the world ! What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?  | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
"Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality. Peace. | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace. "Isn't Jedi a religion now? | |||
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"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now? "Yes probably, may the farce be with you. | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace. "I’m not being aggressive at all . I’m puzzled that anyone would think Buddhism isn’t a religion , but that’s ok . I actually like your description of it . | |||
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"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you. "Fabs is a religion for some folk..... | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
I’m not being aggressive at all . I’m puzzled that anyone would think Buddhism isn’t a religion , but that’s ok .
I actually like your description of it .
"That's cool, it's more of a belief that's not tied down by dogmatic views and a god head like a relegion is. | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk..... "No , more like an obsession I think. | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk.....
No , more like an obsession I think. "da ya mean like shoe's n stuff  | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk.....
No , more like an obsession I think.
da ya mean like shoe's n stuff "Exactly darling, guilty as charged. | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk.....
No , more like an obsession I think.
da ya mean like shoe's n stuff "I meant like some ppl want to tell others how it should and shouldn't be done, like the commandments or some shiz..... | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk.....
No , more like an obsession I think.
da ya mean like shoe's n stuff
I meant like some ppl want to tell others how it should and shouldn't be done, like the commandments or some shiz..... "Dance to the beat of your own drum is the best advice I can give. | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk.....
No , more like an obsession I think.
da ya mean like shoe's n stuff
I meant like some ppl want to tell others how it should and shouldn't be done, like the commandments or some shiz.....
Dance to the beat of your own drum is the best advice I can give. "Amen! | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk.....
No , more like an obsession I think.
da ya mean like shoe's n stuff
I meant like some ppl want to tell others how it should and shouldn't be done, like the commandments or some shiz.....
Dance to the beat of your own drum is the best advice I can give. "yeap,,good advice,,oh and if in doubt,,,just pout! | |||
"Religion has nothing to do with it. Tell that to a Buddhist Buddhism isn't a relegion darling.
It’s the fourth largest religion in the world !
What do you think it is if it’s not a religion ?
Why are you so aggressive dear, but since you ask it's a path of practice to spiritual development leading into insight into the true nature of reality.
Peace.
Isn't Jedi a religion now?
Yes probably, may the farce be with you.
Fabs is a religion for some folk.....
No , more like an obsession I think.
da ya mean like shoe's n stuff
I meant like some ppl want to tell others how it should and shouldn't be done, like the commandments or some shiz.....
Dance to the beat of your own drum is the best advice I can give.
yeap,,good advice,,oh and if in doubt,,,just pout! "Yep forgot to mention that. | |||
