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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Do you think that the amount of time you spend online is a benefit or hinderance to your life?
Been pondering this with a friend and we've both admitted that we've missed out on doing things because of how easy it is to lose time online.
Whilst much of this is talking to people we class as friends, much time is wasted skimming through and not doing or planning anything.
So do you think you have a balance?
Or could you enjoy life more by living in the actual world rather than this virtual one?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends on what I would be doing otherwise.
I am VERY selective with my friends, most of whom have moved away. I have friends now living all over the country, or in other countries. A large portion of my online time is spent chatting to them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s a really interesting question
I’ve wasted hours on here and other such places. However the virtual world does allow me to stay in touch with friends and family all over the world. I’d have to say that perhaps I personally might be better off without it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Depends on what I would be doing otherwise.
I am VERY selective with my friends, most of whom have moved away. I have friends now living all over the country, or in other countries. A large portion of my online time is spent chatting to them. "
Yeah get that  big difference when it's people you know in person too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It’s a really interesting question
I’ve wasted hours on here and other such places. However the virtual world does allow me to stay in touch with friends and family all over the world. I’d have to say that perhaps I personally might be better off without it"
I think for many it swings in roundabouts.. it's a great tool but easy to get carried away and not do things that would enhance your day to day life because this is so easy.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally I don’t think it’s particularly healthy to ‘live’ in a virtual world to the extent it hinders what you do / happens in reality.
For me, I enjoy chatting on here, messing about with people, occasionally meeting but when I have a lot going on in my real life I back off here and don’t login. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s a really interesting question
I’ve wasted hours on here and other such places. However the virtual world does allow me to stay in touch with friends and family all over the world. I’d have to say that perhaps I personally might be better off without it
I think for many it swings in roundabouts.. it's a great tool but easy to get carried away and not do things that would enhance your day to day life because this is so easy.."
If I wasn't online I would be sleeping or staring out of a window. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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There have certainly been timed since the dawn of the internet as a virtual world that I've got to the end of a day and thought there are so many better things I could have done other than spend it on-line - even now I still think I miss out on some of life's simple pleasures (like reading for example) at times because I am too easily distracted by the 10 x 6 piece of plastic, metal and glass I hold in my hand.
That said, I have met some wonderful people I otherwise wouldn't have done if I didn't spend that time here so it's a double edged sword that has both enhanced and detracted from my life. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There have certainly been timed since the dawn of the internet as a virtual world that I've got to the end of a day and thought there are so many better things I could have done other than spend it on-line - even now I still think I miss out on some of life's simple pleasures (like reading for example) at times because I am too easily distracted by the 10 x 6 piece of plastic, metal and glass I hold in my hand.
That said, I have met some wonderful people I otherwise wouldn't have done if I didn't spend that time here so it's a double edged sword that has both enhanced and detracted from my life."
Exactly that!! I'll have a spare hour and instead of picking up the book I'm enjoying, I'll pick up my phone for 5 minutes and waste an hour doing nothing!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It’s a really interesting question
I’ve wasted hours on here and other such places. However the virtual world does allow me to stay in touch with friends and family all over the world. I’d have to say that perhaps I personally might be better off without it
I think for many it swings in roundabouts.. it's a great tool but easy to get carried away and not do things that would enhance your day to day life because this is so easy..
If I wasn't online I would be sleeping or staring out of a window."
Think I'm sick of looking at my half decorated kitchen and realising I could have decorated my house by now..  |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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I generally use it as a distraction and escapism when I need to.
I've cut back massively on the amount of time that I spend on social media recently and it's been a very positive thing. I now try to only pop on here for positive reasons |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s a really interesting question
I’ve wasted hours on here and other such places. However the virtual world does allow me to stay in touch with friends and family all over the world. I’d have to say that perhaps I personally might be better off without it
I think for many it swings in roundabouts.. it's a great tool but easy to get carried away and not do things that would enhance your day to day life because this is so easy..
If I wasn't online I would be sleeping or staring out of a window.
Think I'm sick of looking at my half decorated kitchen and realising I could have decorated my house by now.. "
We gad this discussion last week  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It’s a really interesting question
I’ve wasted hours on here and other such places. However the virtual world does allow me to stay in touch with friends and family all over the world. I’d have to say that perhaps I personally might be better off without it
I think for many it swings in roundabouts.. it's a great tool but easy to get carried away and not do things that would enhance your day to day life because this is so easy..
If I wasn't online I would be sleeping or staring out of a window.
Think I'm sick of looking at my half decorated kitchen and realising I could have decorated my house by now..
We gad this discussion last week "
Ha ha exactly!! Bloody thing isn't decorating itself.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Personally I don’t think it’s particularly healthy to ‘live’ in a virtual world to the extent it hinders what you do / happens in reality.
For me, I enjoy chatting on here, messing about with people, occasionally meeting but when I have a lot going on in my real life I back off here and don’t login."
Yeah I agree.. I think it's too easy to not get out sometimes. Even a few hours here and there can add up to time that could be more productively used. As soon as life gets busy it's gone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The virtual world expands the actual world we live in and brings with it more pleasures and enjoyment … just a thought. It can get a bit addictive but can also be good therapy at times. |
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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
"It’s a really interesting question
I’ve wasted hours on here and other such places. However the virtual world does allow me to stay in touch with friends and family all over the world. I’d have to say that perhaps I personally might be better off without it
I think for many it swings in roundabouts.. it's a great tool but easy to get carried away and not do things that would enhance your day to day life because this is so easy..
If I wasn't online I would be sleeping or staring out of a window."
come check out my window! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I spend too much time here and that annoys me greatly. I have a million other things I could do but I cant break the fab chains yet. Its just easy, lazy distraction  |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"The virtual world expands the actual world we live in and brings with it more pleasures and enjoyment … just a thought. It can get a bit addictive but can also be good therapy at times."
I agree, it's the same as with many things in life; it's not the thing itself but the manner in which it's used which can be beneficial or detrimental |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I spend too much time here and that annoys me greatly. I have a million other things I could do but I cant break the fab chains yet. Its just easy, lazy distraction "
Exactly this!! I'm annoying myself by not achieving other things.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The virtual world expands the actual world we live in and brings with it more pleasures and enjoyment … just a thought. It can get a bit addictive but can also be good therapy at times.
I agree, it's the same as with many things in life; it's not the thing itself but the manner in which it's used which can be beneficial or detrimental "
Agreed.. but as great as it can be it's so easily used it can be at the expense of making the effort to actually do something. |
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Sometimes I find myself online longer than planned but generally it’s because I am chatting on the forum or with someone - so much the same as going out for an hour or two with friends and not coming home till the wee small hours |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"I spend too much time here and that annoys me greatly. I have a million other things I could do but I cant break the fab chains yet. Its just easy, lazy distraction
Exactly this!! I'm annoying myself by not achieving other things.. "
I'm not sure if I agree 100% with this as an argument against time online though. The time we spend online could in theory be used doing other things, but how many of us use our time and days so efficiently?
If you were given the time back in the odd hour, here and there, when it was spent, how many people would use it for those things that needed doing?
To me it seems a little like when people talk about quitting smoking and 'all of the money' they'll save and spend on holidays. In reality it just gets frittered away on other things instead.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I spend too much time here and that annoys me greatly. I have a million other things I could do but I cant break the fab chains yet. Its just easy, lazy distraction
Exactly this!! I'm annoying myself by not achieving other things..
I'm not sure if I agree 100% with this as an argument against time online though. The time we spend online could in theory be used doing other things, but how many of us use our time and days so efficiently?
If you were given the time back in the odd hour, here and there, when it was spent, how many people would use it for those things that needed doing?
To me it seems a little like when people talk about quitting smoking and 'all of the money' they'll save and spend on holidays. In reality it just gets frittered away on other things instead.
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I suppose if its replacing lazy things like Tv time anyway it isnt so bad, we all need down time. Its just when I know I have other things I want to do that reqire some effort, a quick log on online is so much easier and distracting. (Not that sort of log for the filthy minded) |
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By *ot-AshMan
over a year ago
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I used to spend too much time online in the past but now have a good balance and enjoy doing more things in real life but do still need to escape now and again and always learn something new on here everyday! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I tend to pop on here if I'm doing nothing else, it's like a naughty Facebook
I tend to go between the two when I’m bored. "
Snap, I find this more entertaining.
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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I don’t use any other social media. This is all I use. I pop on if I have time, sometimes it’s just open on my phone and I may have a quick glance every so often, other times I’m engaged in it. I don’t do this instead of other things so I’m fairly content with how I use it. |
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"Do you think that the amount of time you spend online is a benefit or hinderance to your life?
Been pondering this with a friend and we've both admitted that we've missed out on doing things because of how easy it is to lose time online.
Whilst much of this is talking to people we class as friends, much time is wasted skimming through and not doing or planning anything.
So do you think you have a balance?
Or could you enjoy life more by living in the actual world rather than this virtual one?? "
Hi op!
As I definitely ‘make the most’ of fab - fab is both the virtual world and the real world to me - ie all my sex life is via here - as is most of my social life - and most of my friends are on here!
Obviously work and family are priority - along with other duties - but I don’t mind putting a little time into this when I get so much out of it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I find the fact that I don't have to put trousers on and go outside and talk to people a plus. That's why I'm here.
And it's nice to have people tell me I'm pretty once in a while. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I find the fact that I don't have to put trousers on and go outside and talk to people a plus. That's why I'm here.
And it's nice to have people tell me I'm pretty once in a while. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Do you think that the amount of time you spend online is a benefit or hinderance to your life?
Been pondering this with a friend and we've both admitted that we've missed out on doing things because of how easy it is to lose time online.
Whilst much of this is talking to people we class as friends, much time is wasted skimming through and not doing or planning anything.
So do you think you have a balance?
Or could you enjoy life more by living in the actual world rather than this virtual one??
Hi op!
As I definitely ‘make the most’ of fab - fab is both the virtual world and the real world to me - ie all my sex life is via here - as is most of my social life - and most of my friends are on here!
Obviously work and family are priority - along with other duties - but I don’t mind putting a little time into this when I get so much out of it! "
I think this is where I'm wondering why I get sidetracked but have no wish to meet right now. But I'm happy to believe this is a social thing when in fact I'd be better off working on my social anxiety.. |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
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Good question. I started off full of enthusiasm all wide eyed and bussy tailed. Thinking what I was looking for would be here someone to travel this journey with. The first few mths were great. But after a few bad experiences I've lost my mojo totally and a lot of my self confidence and esteem.
I've actually had less sex since being on here-work that one out.
Yes to much time spend on here but hopefully once the spring comes and I come out of hibernation I'll get back out into the real world and or start talking to folk local to me. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Good question. I started off full of enthusiasm all wide eyed and bussy tailed. Thinking what I was looking for would be here someone to travel this journey with. The first few mths were great. But after a few bad experiences I've lost my mojo totally and a lot of my self confidence and esteem.
I've actually had less sex since being on here-work that one out.
Yes to much time spend on here but hopefully once the spring comes and I come out of hibernation I'll get back out into the real world and or start talking to folk local to me. "
Maybe that's a large part of it too.. I hibernate in winter so have no intention of going anywhere.. maybe it's cabin fever setting in!? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I don’t use any other social media. This is all I use. I pop on if I have time, sometimes it’s just open on my phone and I may have a quick glance every so often, other times I’m engaged in it. I don’t do this instead of other things so I’m fairly content with how I use it. "
I think I'm fed up of the long nights and bored of my own company and habits! Roll on summer!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I have phases. Sometimes I'll use the Forum at a prolific rate Others not at all.
I'm not often on it to look for local meets. I've seen or politely messaged most locals who interest me over the time I've been on.
Ideally I'd like to meet a woman who likes me enough as I am, to fall in love with me and I her.
I can't think of many other places in the world where I can admit to being a little bisexual AND the occasional bit of dress up time. Also a man that wants to swing WITH my loved one. Where else I can I do that without potentially hurting her feelings and mine.. or send her running for the hills?
Hopefully I'm here to stay tjis time.. Hopefully someone out there will give me a regular reason to not log on so often.
If not.. I'm happy chilling out and letting my friends educate me.. maybe even have sex with one or two of them. |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
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I think i've struck a fine balance between being on here or keeping myself busy or being productive with real world activities. At times i've been away for several days to a week and didn't feel any "withdrawal" symptoms though i'll admit there is a certain allure to this place. I don't really use any of the traditional social media and can't really see the appeal. What fab has done is given me a whole new set of friends that I tend to spend more time conversing with than my pre fab vanilla ones and there is where I feel I need to find better balance. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think i've struck a fine balance between being on here or keeping myself busy or being productive with real world activities. At times i've been away for several days to a week and didn't feel any "withdrawal" symptoms though i'll admit there is a certain allure to this place. I don't really use any of the traditional social media and can't really see the appeal. What fab has done is given me a whole new set of friends that I tend to spend more time conversing with than my pre fab vanilla ones and there is where I feel I need to find better balance."
I find this too.. it's very easy to have conversation on here and truly fascinating at times. But I wonder if I make equal effort with vanilla friends.. probably not. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I have phases. Sometimes I'll use the Forum at a prolific rate Others not at all.
I'm not often on it to look for local meets. I've seen or politely messaged most locals who interest me over the time I've been on.
Ideally I'd like to meet a woman who likes me enough as I am, to fall in love with me and I her.
I can't think of many other places in the world where I can admit to being a little bisexual AND the occasional bit of dress up time. Also a man that wants to swing WITH my loved one. Where else I can I do that without potentially hurting her feelings and mine.. or send her running for the hills?
Hopefully I'm here to stay tjis time.. Hopefully someone out there will give me a regular reason to not log on so often.
If not.. I'm happy chilling out and letting my friends educate me.. maybe even have sex with one or two of them."
It's certainly somewhere that feels like home where I can speak about anything and everything with people who truly get it.. unlikely I'd find anyone outside here that would understand in the same way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I don’t think it’s particularly healthy to ‘live’ in a virtual world to the extent it hinders what you do / happens in reality.
For me, I enjoy chatting on here, messing about with people, occasionally meeting but when I have a lot going on in my real life I back off here and don’t login."
Completely agree... I call this my parallel universe x |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"I think i've struck a fine balance between being on here or keeping myself busy or being productive with real world activities. At times i've been away for several days to a week and didn't feel any "withdrawal" symptoms though i'll admit there is a certain allure to this place. I don't really use any of the traditional social media and can't really see the appeal. What fab has done is given me a whole new set of friends that I tend to spend more time conversing with than my pre fab vanilla ones and there is where I feel I need to find better balance.
I find this too.. it's very easy to have conversation on here and truly fascinating at times. But I wonder if I make equal effort with vanilla friends.. probably not. "
That's an interesting point regarding 'vanilla' friends. I know that I don't put nearly the same level of effort into my vanilla relationships than I do on here. But then there are good reasons for that! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's a distraction a place that can make me smile, think, pass some time, watching the world go by and occasionally posting something inane on a thread or two.
It can be easy to just watch and read, listen to others, and drift along like a stick bobbling down a stream,...
Too easy sometimes...
It may not be where I want to be, yet that's a place I cannot be.
So I just wander quietly in the background, and watch the threads go by....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think i've struck a fine balance between being on here or keeping myself busy or being productive with real world activities. At times i've been away for several days to a week and didn't feel any "withdrawal" symptoms though i'll admit there is a certain allure to this place. I don't really use any of the traditional social media and can't really see the appeal. What fab has done is given me a whole new set of friends that I tend to spend more time conversing with than my pre fab vanilla ones and there is where I feel I need to find better balance.
I find this too.. it's very easy to have conversation on here and truly fascinating at times. But I wonder if I make equal effort with vanilla friends.. probably not.
That's an interesting point regarding 'vanilla' friends. I know that I don't put nearly the same level of effort into my vanilla relationships than I do on here. But then there are good reasons for that! "
I think this answers my own question.. time to address the balance |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's a distraction a place that can make me smile, think, pass some time, watching the world go by and occasionally posting something inane on a thread or two.
It can be easy to just watch and read, listen to others, and drift along like a stick bobbling down a stream,...
Too easy sometimes...
It may not be where I want to be, yet that's a place I cannot be.
So I just wander quietly in the background, and watch the threads go by....
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Oops you did it again... #Swoon |
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"It's a distraction a place that can make me smile, think, pass some time, watching the world go by and occasionally posting something inane on a thread or two.
It can be easy to just watch and read, listen to others, and drift along like a stick bobbling down a stream,...
Too easy sometimes...
It may not be where I want to be, yet that's a place I cannot be.
So I just wander quietly in the background, and watch the threads go by....
Oops you did it again... #Swoon "
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"It's a distraction a place that can make me smile, think, pass some time, watching the world go by and occasionally posting something inane on a thread or two.
It can be easy to just watch and read, listen to others, and drift along like a stick bobbling down a stream,...
Too easy sometimes...
It may not be where I want to be, yet that's a place I cannot be.
So I just wander quietly in the background, and watch the threads go by....
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Nice .... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Both my balance has been better of late but i love this place"
Agreed, I don't think there is another site that's as entertaining as this. Except the six nations results and fixtures website of course! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think i've struck a fine balance between being on here or keeping myself busy or being productive with real world activities. At times i've been away for several days to a week and didn't feel any "withdrawal" symptoms though i'll admit there is a certain allure to this place. I don't really use any of the traditional social media and can't really see the appeal. What fab has done is given me a whole new set of friends that I tend to spend more time conversing with than my pre fab vanilla ones and there is where I feel I need to find better balance.
I find this too.. it's very easy to have conversation on here and truly fascinating at times. But I wonder if I make equal effort with vanilla friends.. probably not.
That's an interesting point regarding 'vanilla' friends. I know that I don't put nearly the same level of effort into my vanilla relationships than I do on here. But then there are good reasons for that!
I think this answers my own question.. time to address the balance "
Takes a lot less actual effort to converse with “friends” on here than it does in real life. You don’t have to go out to do this you can stay in your jammies on the sofa - can pick it up & put it down as and when you want to for example.
If you’ve found a niche group on here that you interact with it’s like a ready made social life. Is it a solid foundation for long lasting friendships or is or for the here & now.
Not knocking it and probably not getting across what I really mean. |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
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"It's a distraction a place that can make me smile, think, pass some time, watching the world go by and occasionally posting something inane on a thread or two.
It can be easy to just watch and read, listen to others, and drift along like a stick bobbling down a stream,...
Too easy sometimes...
It may not be where I want to be, yet that's a place I cannot be.
So I just wander quietly in the background, and watch the threads go by....
I feel like a stick ( help ) that's lovely hine xx
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
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"It's a distraction a place that can make me smile, think, pass some time, watching the world go by and occasionally posting something inane on a thread or two.
It can be easy to just watch and read, listen to others, and drift along like a stick bobbling down a stream,...
Too easy sometimes...
It may not be where I want to be, yet that's a place I cannot be.
So I just wander quietly in the background, and watch the threads go by....
I feel like a stick ( help ) that's lovely hine xx
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I feel like a stick ( help ) that's lovely hine xx
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think i've struck a fine balance between being on here or keeping myself busy or being productive with real world activities. At times i've been away for several days to a week and didn't feel any "withdrawal" symptoms though i'll admit there is a certain allure to this place. I don't really use any of the traditional social media and can't really see the appeal. What fab has done is given me a whole new set of friends that I tend to spend more time conversing with than my pre fab vanilla ones and there is where I feel I need to find better balance.
I find this too.. it's very easy to have conversation on here and truly fascinating at times. But I wonder if I make equal effort with vanilla friends.. probably not.
That's an interesting point regarding 'vanilla' friends. I know that I don't put nearly the same level of effort into my vanilla relationships than I do on here. But then there are good reasons for that!
I think this answers my own question.. time to address the balance
Takes a lot less actual effort to converse with “friends” on here than it does in real life. You don’t have to go out to do this you can stay in your jammies on the sofa - can pick it up & put it down as and when you want to for example.
If you’ve found a niche group on here that you interact with it’s like a ready made social life. Is it a solid foundation for long lasting friendships or is or for the here & now.
Not knocking it and probably not getting across what I really mean. "
I think I get what you mean.. this place is ace for what it is..the friends here are invaluable in that I've no idea who else I could talk to on the same level on certain subjects.. but when you're craving just company and the more normal things in life, like chats over food or a good film.. then you realise more effort needs to be made in the other areas of life over the ease of here.. |
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It's great to get out into the real world but that's not really possible 7 nights a week
This is a fun alternative but certainly not a priority. Always good to read people's views on the multitude of topics raised here |
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over a year ago
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"I think i've struck a fine balance between being on here or keeping myself busy or being productive with real world activities. At times i've been away for several days to a week and didn't feel any "withdrawal" symptoms though i'll admit there is a certain allure to this place. I don't really use any of the traditional social media and can't really see the appeal. What fab has done is given me a whole new set of friends that I tend to spend more time conversing with than my pre fab vanilla ones and there is where I feel I need to find better balance.
I find this too.. it's very easy to have conversation on here and truly fascinating at times. But I wonder if I make equal effort with vanilla friends.. probably not.
That's an interesting point regarding 'vanilla' friends. I know that I don't put nearly the same level of effort into my vanilla relationships than I do on here. But then there are good reasons for that!
I think this answers my own question.. time to address the balance
Takes a lot less actual effort to converse with “friends” on here than it does in real life. You don’t have to go out to do this you can stay in your jammies on the sofa - can pick it up & put it down as and when you want to for example.
If you’ve found a niche group on here that you interact with it’s like a ready made social life. Is it a solid foundation for long lasting friendships or is or for the here & now.
Not knocking it and probably not getting across what I really mean. "
That makes sense to me. |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
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A few months ago I realised I was spending far too much time on here, so I have cut down.
I engage with real world friends much more. And a few fab ones too.
I think my balance is about right now. And I feel in better mental health as a result. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't do FB or any other social media or have a television ... so this gives a little down time from an exceedingly busy life. I can take it or leave it and have made some real life friends from here and some nice online acquaintances, which is why I came here in the first place I suppose.
But I do work from home and on slow, boring admin days, can't beat going into chat for a laugh or on the forums! |
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"I don’t use any other social media. This is all I use. I pop on if I have time, sometimes it’s just open on my phone and I may have a quick glance every so often, other times I’m engaged in it. I don’t do this instead of other things so I’m fairly content with how I use it. "
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