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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters... |
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Throw some salt in his eyes and for good measure stick fiery jack all over your knuckles and feet 
If that doesn’t help run like fook  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The trainer definitely should step in when a better fighter bullies another because that's all it is bullying...if he does this with other fighters will soon have no one to train with will he..? Tell the trainer...if he goes to over the top your not training with him again...and if he does walk off...it's supposed to be training not competitive fighting.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
I trained muay Thai for 15 years, unfortunately you get people like that,it will actually help your defence in the long run, but if you Reay don't want to spar with him then talk to your trainer |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters...
I trained muay Thai for 15 years, unfortunately you get people like that,it will actually help your defence in the long run, but if you Reay don't want to spar with him then talk to your trainer"
Really* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Whip ya cock out... it’ll knock him off his stride |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I trained muay Thai for 15 years, unfortunately you get people like that,it will actually help your defence in the long run, but if you Reay don't want to spar with him then talk to your trainer"
Hard sparing is good with friends and people you can have a laugh with.
I'm trying to learn from the experience and not let it put me off because everyone else is fine.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I trained muay Thai for 15 years, unfortunately you get people like that,it will actually help your defence in the long run, but if you Reay don't want to spar with him then talk to your trainer
Hard sparing is good with friends and people you can have a laugh with.
I'm trying to learn from the experience and not let it put me off because everyone else is fine.
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Have a word with the guy and tell him to go easy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Use your fear use each blow he hits you with, own it use it stop the fear from using you. Better yourself with the pain he gifts to you. Look him in the eyes and thank him. Knowing he tought you to kick his own arse. Or run and cry |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Accidentsl jab to the throat will cure it
Or throw a tea bag at him  "
that too ir just tell him its sparring stop being a cock or ur gonna end up crippled |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sweep the leg."
I'm working on stepping round the sides of people.
I can clinch him and throw him but I don't feel so bold.
I often do a little roundhous/put my guard up....and "teep" him when he comes at me...
My new strategy I'm learning is stepping to the sides instead of going backwards...
I've clinched him before and he just dead legged me twice...
I don't want to make too much of a fuss about it..
He's not exactly a nice guy like my other partners. I want to overcome being a pussy about it and learn to relax more with people who intimidate me.
My other partners don't intimidate me because we communicate. |
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There always one like this just what to hurt people ...
Only match the aggression if you're willing to go further nine times out ten these guys are looking for a fight and quite happy for things to get out of control.
Or
Keep your elbows up and catch the fucker in the face .. |
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If you could go as hard as you can, and he would easily rise to that and beat you, then he is likely going as gentle as he thinks he can go without insulting you.
You have to realise for him to be that rough, he has to take a lot of rough hits himself. He likely has no idea he is being overly rough with you and thinks he is beating you but at a level just one above you. Likely fight after fight he has people lower than him hit him as hard as they can.
Unless he is a total asshole. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sweep the leg.
I'm working on stepping round the sides of people.
I can clinch him and throw him but I don't feel so bold.
I often do a little roundhous/put my guard up....and "teep" him when he comes at me...
My new strategy I'm learning is stepping to the sides instead of going backwards...
I've clinched him before and he just dead legged me twice...
I don't want to make too much of a fuss about it..
He's not exactly a nice guy like my other partners. I want to overcome being a pussy about it and learn to relax more with people who intimidate me.
My other partners don't intimidate me because we communicate."
We rarely fight the ones we like when you step in the ring intimdation is the 1st blow, and hes hitting you in the balls with it. front up make joke put him off his normal grumpy wanker face, show him theres no fear and he may not seem so intimidating |
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By *omvampmMan
over a year ago
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Your trainer should not let you spar against someone who is to far above your level or should intervene if he is becoming to aggressive sparring is about developing technique and stamina yes an element of challenge is good as is putting you under a bit of pressure to build your abilitys confidence or preparation for a proper fight i.e. Competition etc. Sounds to me thou that the guy your sparring with doesn't get what sparring is about and just wants to win or bully you if that's encouraged I'd suggest joining a different club |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Your trainer should not let you spar against someone who is to far above your level or should intervene if he is becoming to aggressive sparring is about developing technique and stamina yes an element of challenge is good as is putting you under a bit of pressure to build your abilitys confidence or preparation for a proper fight i.e. Competition etc. Sounds to me thou that the guy your sparring with doesn't get what sparring is about and just wants to win or bully you if that's encouraged I'd suggest joining a different club "
Sounds like a bully actually |
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Lot of people who have not idea what they're talking about your coach will have taught you how to block and how to subdue an aggressive attack ues what your coaches tour you and you'll be fine lots of grappling make it very difficult for him to strike you will learn more from this one guy than the rest of the entire class.
Or go aggressive |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shag his missus...
Oh wait, this isn't that wrestling fella who wants to demonstrate his alpha-ness, is it?  "
Learn styles that will negate his aggression,counter and then put him down! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Try getting your cock out and run at him. |
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Speak to your instructor. I used to teach Jiu-Jitsu, I also did Muay Thai. No one wants anyone in their club who goes 100% in sparring, especially against a beginner. I’m suprised your instructor hasn’t noticed. If you aren’t enjoying it think about trying something else, BJJ for example where you can very safely go full on. In Muay Thai you are going to take some hard knocks.
But a swingers forum probably isn’t the best place to be coming for sparring advice, speak to your instructor or join a martial arts forum  |
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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago
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In all seriousness, as a fellow Nak Muay, tell him you are just going for technique. If he goes in hard, warn him. If he does it again, crack him and walk off. If the Kru isn't watching, tell him.
Alternatively, try some Muay Boran blocking, elbow his fist when it comes in. Put in aggressive shin blocks. Yes it will hurt, but it will also hurt him.
As a previous poster replied, if he is much bigger than you then it may be that he just had more mass and less control, but he could be a dick.
Ultimately if you are just beginning you shouldn't feel intimidated. The more confidence you have the less you care for that stuff. If it persists, complain..
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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago
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"I got kicked in the nuts at one fight I had, split my groin guard in half"
My old groin guard was at one point held together by epoxy glue and bodge tape. The point where it split, then caught my foreskin and half my right nut in it wasn't the most pleasant thing i have experienced..  |
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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it."
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning."
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning.
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
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But he won't learn if he's just getting hurt. The aim of the other guy doesn't seem to be teaching the op, just hurting him.
The sensei should be observing and providing support to help him |
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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning.
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
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You are obviously speaking from a position of ignorance. Muay Thai doesn't have a belt system, so I will relate to a martial art that does.
Would you walk into a club as an absolute beginner and expect to be put up against a senior grade or black belt to have them use you for target practice with no recourse? Would you fuck. You learn the basics with people at your own level, then as you improve you can start to spar with those above you. It is the responsibility of those above you to match your level and supply the opposition you need to learn.
Or another example. Could you go from passing your driving test to driving an F1 car? No. It would never happen..
In sparring you need to be tested and pushed, not just beaten for shits and giggles. |
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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago
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"The only zone you’ll learn in , is the one outside your comfort zone . Painful but true "
You learn and improve when you are in the stretch zone (Just outside the comfort zone) not in the panic zone..
Same as you improve your driving doing track days etc, not while you are about to crash.. |
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By *omvampmMan
over a year ago
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning.
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
You are obviously speaking from a position of ignorance. Muay Thai doesn't have a belt system, so I will relate to a martial art that does.
Would you walk into a club as an absolute beginner and expect to be put up against a senior grade or black belt to have them use you for target practice with no recourse? Would you fuck. You learn the basics with people at your own level, then as you improve you can start to spar with those above you. It is the responsibility of those above you to match your level and supply the opposition you need to learn.
Or another example. Could you go from passing your driving test to driving an F1 car? No. It would never happen..
In sparring you need to be tested and pushed, not just beaten for shits and giggles."
kinda what I was trying to say from an ex boxers point of view be it boxing some martial art variant of which there seems many the principles the same the coach trainer sensai or whomever is leading the session shouldn't allow this hence my point of considering another club or gym school of hard knocks works for very few people especially when ninety five percent of people go to these things for pleasure not out of necessity to survive |
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"The only zone you’ll learn in , is the one outside your comfort zone . Painful but true
You learn and improve when you are in the stretch zone (Just outside the comfort zone) not in the panic zone..
Same as you improve your driving doing track days etc, not while you are about to crash.."
Call it what you like . Either way in my book outside the comfort zone is the zone you’ll learn in . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning.
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
You are obviously speaking from a position of ignorance. Muay Thai doesn't have a belt system, so I will relate to a martial art that does.
Would you walk into a club as an absolute beginner and expect to be put up against a senior grade or black belt to have them use you for target practice with no recourse? Would you fuck. You learn the basics with people at your own level, then as you improve you can start to spar with those above you. It is the responsibility of those above you to match your level and supply the opposition you need to learn.
Or another example. Could you go from passing your driving test to driving an F1 car? No. It would never happen..
In sparring you need to be tested and pushed, not just beaten for shits and giggles."
Yep,I think that's a good way of putting it |
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning.
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
You are obviously speaking from a position of ignorance. Muay Thai doesn't have a belt system, so I will relate to a martial art that does.
Would you walk into a club as an absolute beginner and expect to be put up against a senior grade or black belt to have them use you for target practice with no recourse? Would you fuck. You learn the basics with people at your own level, then as you improve you can start to spar with those above you. It is the responsibility of those above you to match your level and supply the opposition you need to learn.
Or another example. Could you go from passing your driving test to driving an F1 car? No. It would never happen..
In sparring you need to be tested and pushed, not just beaten for shits and giggles."
*Ghengis shows you the Cold face and turns his back* You know nothing about me, ignorance indeed. *Walks out* |
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Level with him, tell him how your feeling. If after he persists in making you feel the same then refuse to spar with him.
Good luck |
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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning.
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
You are obviously speaking from a position of ignorance. Muay Thai doesn't have a belt system, so I will relate to a martial art that does.
Would you walk into a club as an absolute beginner and expect to be put up against a senior grade or black belt to have them use you for target practice with no recourse? Would you fuck. You learn the basics with people at your own level, then as you improve you can start to spar with those above you. It is the responsibility of those above you to match your level and supply the opposition you need to learn.
Or another example. Could you go from passing your driving test to driving an F1 car? No. It would never happen..
In sparring you need to be tested and pushed, not just beaten for shits and giggles.
*Ghengis shows you the Cold face and turns his back* You know nothing about me, ignorance indeed. *Walks out*"
I say what I see, or in this case read. Having trained and fought in Thailand, the Thai don't train that way. Also as a 4th Dan in one of the hardest traditional Japanese Ju Jitsu schools in the country we always go by the tenet "don't break your toys or they won't want to play any more". We used to have to do breakfalls with height on concrete. But we worked up to that. That was 1st Dan. I am speaking (or writing) from a position of considerable experience.
If you are surmising that martial arts schools should just beat students up and give them anxiety, then you, sir, are a fool. |
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By *ruebameMan
over a year ago
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
OP it could be a case of your better than you think and he's trying to push you to get the best out of you I personally would have a word with him you may be surprised at his answer to why he's doing it if he's just a bully then you will just have to refuse to train with him |
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Ask if he needs some work on his control, as the better Fighters can spar with appropriate levels of power... |
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As someone who has done martial arts for over 30yrs, have Dan belts in several styles, and taught classes for 10yrs.
You do not go to the dojo, to get beaten up.
You go to learn an art, a skill, a defence.
The first things you are taught are respect, honour, values & a code.
Find another dojo
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over a year ago
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"I think the sparing dick head is Comeing tonight.
He's agressive. He tries to hurt you.
I'm getting more and more afraid of him in sparing...
The other people I spar don't try to injure me. It's more fun with them.
How do I keep myself calm? I feel anxious but want to overcome it.
How do I counter his agression in muay thai? If I go harder he goes to levels I can't deal with.
He's not like the other fighters..."
Rock, paper, scissors.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take it.. Or drop out. You're learning to fight right? Taking a beating is part of it.
No, he is learning an art..
Taking a beating teaches him nothing.
Big difference between taking some knocks and getting battered when you are supposed to be learning.
An art.. One that requires physical conflict to progress in.
It'll teach him to block more effectively.
How do you get better is said art without being tested by someone better than you?
You are obviously speaking from a position of ignorance. Muay Thai doesn't have a belt system, so I will relate to a martial art that does.
Would you walk into a club as an absolute beginner and expect to be put up against a senior grade or black belt to have them use you for target practice with no recourse? Would you fuck. You learn the basics with people at your own level, then as you improve you can start to spar with those above you. It is the responsibility of those above you to match your level and supply the opposition you need to learn.
Or another example. Could you go from passing your driving test to driving an F1 car? No. It would never happen..
In sparring you need to be tested and pushed, not just beaten for shits and giggles.
*Ghengis shows you the Cold face and turns his back* You know nothing about me, ignorance indeed. *Walks out*
I say what I see, or in this case read. Having trained and fought in Thailand, the Thai don't train that way. Also as a 4th Dan in one of the hardest traditional Japanese Ju Jitsu schools in the country we always go by the tenet "don't break your toys or they won't want to play any more". We used to have to do breakfalls with height on concrete. But we worked up to that. That was 1st Dan. I am speaking (or writing) from a position of considerable experience.
If you are surmising that martial arts schools should just beat students up and give them anxiety, then you, sir, are a fool."
*in* They did when I learnt in Thailand I'll back of to your 'superior knowledge of the arts' I'm a lover, not a fighter. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'll agree, you've more experience. I'll bow respectfully to it. I'm just of the opinion. If you want to learn the art of fighting. You have to learn the art of taking a beating. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll agree, you've more experience. I'll bow respectfully to it. I'm just of the opinion. If you want to learn the art of fighting. You have to learn the art of taking a beating."
omg,,,are you hitting on him |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll agree, you've more experience. I'll bow respectfully to it. I'm just of the opinion. If you want to learn the art of fighting. You have to learn the art of taking a beating.
omg,,,are you hitting on him "
No. I'm trying to politely defend my opinion. I'll hit on you if you're not careful. |
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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago
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"I'll agree, you've more experience. I'll bow respectfully to it. I'm just of the opinion. If you want to learn the art of fighting. You have to learn the art of taking a beating.
omg,,,are you hitting on him
No. I'm trying to politely defend my opinion. I'll hit on you if you're not careful."
Selling ringside seats to Genghis vs Mikki... |
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"I'll agree, you've more experience. I'll bow respectfully to it. I'm just of the opinion. If you want to learn the art of fighting. You have to learn the art of taking a beating.
omg,,,are you hitting on him
No. I'm trying to politely defend my opinion. I'll hit on you if you're not careful."
Mikki,,keeping an eye oh her rear,carefully retreats to a safe distance |
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"I'll agree, you've more experience. I'll bow respectfully to it. I'm just of the opinion. If you want to learn the art of fighting. You have to learn the art of taking a beating.
omg,,,are you hitting on him
No. I'm trying to politely defend my opinion. I'll hit on you if you're not careful.
Mikki,,keeping an eye oh her rear,carefully retreats to a safe distance"
fuck fuckk,,,typo,,,i meant "on" her rear..ok
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"Just tell him. I'm not to your level so calm the fuck down. Or use it to get better!?"
Exactly this. Tell him to take it easy - it's only sparing! If he doesn't, have a quiet word with the instructor/coach and explain you're considering leaving.
To put it on a different context, you wouldn't expect to have a lesson with a pro tennis player and for them to blast out 100mph serves or to play their top game.
Sounds like the other guy has got something to prove.... |
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"I was trained by the master himself
Mr miyagi
Now Stop the bickering boys and paint the fence
Wax in wax off "
And your name is Daniel
Ironic pal lol
Now show me wax on |
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"I'll agree, you've more experience. I'll bow respectfully to it. I'm just of the opinion. If you want to learn the art of fighting. You have to learn the art of taking a beating.
omg,,,are you hitting on him
No. I'm trying to politely defend my opinion. I'll hit on you if you're not careful.
Mikki,,keeping an eye oh her rear,carefully retreats to a safe distance"
*Ghengis watches Mikkis rear dissapear off in the distance*
"Nowhere is safe from me" |
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"My older sis used to do my fighting for me....being hard as nails ..I'll give her a shout for you OP  "
But is she harder than chuck norris babe
That is the question |
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"My older sis used to do my fighting for me....being hard as nails ..I'll give her a shout for you OP
But is she harder than chuck norris babe
That is the question "
And the answer is yes! Harder punch.... |
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"My older sis used to do my fighting for me....being hard as nails ..I'll give her a shout for you OP
But is she harder than chuck norris babe
That is the question
And the answer is yes! Harder punch.... "
Your a very violent mechanic |
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