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"Obviously animal welfare is not high on the swingers agenda. "What do you expect? 99% of the people on here, spend their lives choking chickens!
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"Back in the days I would have been angry at the person, but now I would think they may have needful circumstances?" We had up to 50 ducks at any one time, sadly only about a dozen left now. | |||
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"Back in the days I would have been angry at the person, but now I would think they may have needful circumstances? We had up to 50 ducks at any one time, sadly only about a dozen left now." I hate to say it, but it's mostly eastern Europeans. We have it around here too. They're stealing all the fish out of the ponds, taking swans and ducks, and ravaging the land of anything edible. You see them out with carrier bags picking anything you can eat! This is totally illegal and ultimately bad for the eco system.  | |||
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"I don't know. I wonder if he was taking it home to eat. I wouldn't have done anything if I'd seen him catching a fish and putting it in a plastic bag." Ah yes it might have been that. I guess if it's to eat it's no different from poping to Tesco's. | |||
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"Back in the days I would have been angry at the person, but now I would think they may have needful circumstances? We had up to 50 ducks at any one time, sadly only about a dozen left now. I hate to say it, but it's mostly eastern Europeans. We have it around here too. They're stealing all the fish out of the ponds, taking swans and ducks, and ravaging the land of anything edible. You see them out with carrier bags picking anything you can eat! This is totally illegal and ultimately bad for the eco system. "I have a view of a river/canal from where I live so I enjoy seeing geese,ducks and moorhens so I understand your loss. We have barges in the area too which would provide avert that issue. | |||
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"Back in the days I would have been angry at the person, but now I would think they may have needful circumstances? We had up to 50 ducks at any one time, sadly only about a dozen left now. I hate to say it, but it's mostly eastern Europeans. We have it around here too. They're stealing all the fish out of the ponds, taking swans and ducks, and ravaging the land of anything edible. You see them out with carrier bags picking anything you can eat! This is totally illegal and ultimately bad for the eco system. I have a view of a river/canal from where I live so I enjoy seeing geese,ducks and moorhens so I understand your loss. We have barges in the area too which would provide avert that issue."Yes much the same as our garden run along the river and we enjoy watching trout, moorhens, egrets and even cormirets. Sadly everything is disappearing and nobody seems to care. | |||
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"I don't know. I wonder if he was taking it home to eat. I wouldn't have done anything if I'd seen him catching a fish and putting it in a plastic bag. Ah yes it might have been that. I guess if it's to eat it's no different from poping to Tesco's." It's totally illegal and savage as some species pair for life, it's not just the odd bird but a systematic harvest. | |||
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done." punched his face in | |||
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"Obviously animal welfare is not high on the swingers agenda. "So you naturally intervened then. | |||
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"I don't know. I wonder if he was taking it home to eat. I wouldn't have done anything if I'd seen him catching a fish and putting it in a plastic bag. Ah yes it might have been that. I guess if it's to eat it's no different from poping to Tesco's. It's totally illegal and savage as some species pair for life, it's not just the odd bird but a systematic harvest." Yeah not like culling or hunting that where it can be done in a more humane way. E.G. No pain or prolonged suffering. | |||
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"I don't know. I wonder if he was taking it home to eat. I wouldn't have done anything if I'd seen him catching a fish and putting it in a plastic bag. Ah yes it might have been that. I guess if it's to eat it's no different from poping to Tesco's. It's totally illegal and savage as some species pair for life, it's not just the odd bird but a systematic harvest." Your first post mentioned one duck, not a systematic harvest. I was answering your original post. This is completely different. | |||
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"In Preston, East Europeans keep taking swans from the river ribble. East Europeans are of course immune from prosecution.If you say anything your racist" Eastern Europeans aren't immune from prosecution  | |||
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"Disgusting behaviours. My friend is a water bailiff and he is forever having to shoo eastern europeans away from the waters where they try to steal the carp fish." I was reading an article about a man who goes to lakes to educate people from his home country about carp fishing. In their country it's normal to fish for carp and take them home for dinner. | |||
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"In Preston, East Europeans keep taking swans from the river ribble. East Europeans are of course immune from prosecution.If you say anything your racist" They are prosecuted if caught. | |||
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"I don't know. I wonder if he was taking it home to eat. I wouldn't have done anything if I'd seen him catching a fish and putting it in a plastic bag. Ah yes it might have been that. I guess if it's to eat it's no different from poping to Tesco's." Except Tesco's dont use slingshots..very cruel Id have pushed the tw** in the river & ran(im 5ft not tall enough to hit the c***).Cant stand animal cruelty. | |||
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"I don't know. I wonder if he was taking it home to eat. I wouldn't have done anything if I'd seen him catching a fish and putting it in a plastic bag. Ah yes it might have been that. I guess if it's to eat it's no different from poping to Tesco's. Except Tesco's dont use slingshots..very cruel Id have pushed the tw** in the river & ran(im 5ft not tall enough to hit the c***).Cant stand animal cruelty." Me too. | |||
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"In Preston, East Europeans keep taking swans from the river ribble. East Europeans are of course immune from prosecution.If you say anything your racist" | |||
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"Also, it's well documented that swearing is a sign of intelligence... Google it "Fuck off is it | |||
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"Also, it's well documented that swearing is a sign of intelligence... Google it Fuck off is it "See..... This guy's in fucking mensa! | |||
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done." There was case like that where I live the ducks that normally around the river nearby was going missing it turned out a group of people from Poland was the culprit | |||
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"Back in the days I would have been angry at the person, but now I would think they may have needful circumstances? We had up to 50 ducks at any one time, sadly only about a dozen left now. I hate to say it, but it's mostly eastern Europeans. We have it around here too. They're stealing all the fish out of the ponds, taking swans and ducks, and ravaging the land of anything edible. You see them out with carrier bags picking anything you can eat! This is totally illegal and ultimately bad for the eco system. "It seems on this thread this is a a nationwide problem 'beanflick' .I hesitated to say Polish rather than east european but seems some investigative journalism wouldn't go amiss before it's too late(police are more reactive if there's media attention intervention) | |||
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"Also, it's well documented that swearing is a sign of intelligence... Google it Fuck off is it
See..... This guy's in fucking mensa!
Can we keep this thread about the poor animals and not your ego.
Thank you.  "Also.... Why just me? Why didn't you call out the guy giving almost as good as me? | |||
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"Disgusting behaviours. My friend is a water bailiff and he is forever having to shoo eastern europeans away from the waters where they try to steal the carp fish." Imagine wanting to eat the fish, eh? Would those be the very same carp that were introduced here in the middle ages as an easy to grow/eat food source?
To me it seems utterly odd that people want to catch them and then not bother eating them.
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done." I started a new school and a lad grabbed a duckling put it in a carrier bag span it round and went to smash it on the wall. My first day on the way in. I punched him and kneed him, took the bag, unfortunately I didnt watch him once I'd got the duck and he set my fecking hair on fire. I lasted 3 months there. Hell hole. | |||
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done. I started a new school and a lad grabbed a duckling put it in a carrier bag span it round and went to smash it on the wall. My first day on the way in. I punched him and kneed him, took the bag, unfortunately I didnt watch him once I'd got the duck and he set my fecking hair on fire. I lasted 3 months there. Hell hole." Sounds horrendous. | |||
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"I have no further advice to add, animal cruelty of any kind really upsets me. "Agreed. Xx | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution" You'd think that but: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/watchdog-permits-170000-wild-bird-killings-in-five-years/ar-BBTWk2M | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution You'd think that but: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/watchdog-permits-170000-wild-bird-killings-in-five-years/ar-BBTWk2M" 
It beggers the question will humans not be content until they have destroyed the natural habitat and wildlife of the world. | |||
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"It's not just the east Europeans that cause harm to the wildlife, people in general need educating on these matters. People will let their dogs of the lead and trample through the river crushing eggs and chicks and all in their path. School children through rubbish in everyday including their bikes. People throw whole slices of white bread in the river, probably with good intentions, but ducks won't eat it and it's bad for them plus polluts the river. Very sad to see such ignorance." Sad but true of society today. | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution You'd think that but: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/watchdog-permits-170000-wild-bird-killings-in-five-years/ar-BBTWk2M
It beggers the question will humans not be content until they have destroyed the natural habitat and wildlife of the world."I suppose the only good thing this country has achieved is stopping circus animal cruelty.Another thread debate is, Are zoos good things or bad | |||
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done." Depends if I was on my own or not. With friends, we would have gone for him & tried to rescue the duck! | |||
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done. Depends if I was on my own or not. With friends, we would have gone for him & tried to rescue the duck!" Glad to hear it, unfortunately he was too quick for me, as I was in my garden which is 10 foot higher than the tow path. | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution" Except they aren't. Mallards, for example are game and are legally shot in autumn/winter. | |||
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"Loads of people are eating wild animals and birds now, yay austerity. Probably be nothing left for when brexit happens." The birds will not be allowed to fly to the UK after Brexit. | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution Except they aren't. Mallards, for example are game and are legally shot in autumn/winter. " Not semi domesticated ones that live on our rivers you will find. | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution You'd think that but: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/watchdog-permits-170000-wild-bird-killings-in-five-years/ar-BBTWk2M
It beggers the question will humans not be content until they have destroyed the natural habitat and wildlife of the world.
I suppose the only good thing this country has achieved is stopping circus animal cruelty.Another thread debate is, Are zoos good things or bad"Some certainly are, especially in the case of endangered species. | |||
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"Loads of people are eating wild animals and birds now, yay austerity. Probably be nothing left for when brexit happens. The birds will not be allowed to fly to the UK after Brexit." They won't want to come here when they hear what's happening. | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution Except they aren't. Mallards, for example are game and are legally shot in autumn/winter. Not semi domesticated ones that live on our rivers you will find." There's no distinction. Ducks move around by doing this thing called "flying". If they end up on an estate with ponds (gamekeepers tend to leave out feeders with corn in), then they get shot at in season and eaten Populations are kept artificially high by us feeding them so they are a useful resource to harvest. | |||
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"Why are we imposing our values on others ..." It's got nothing to do with imposing our values, unless that's what you consider the laws of the land to be!? | |||
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"Why not. .? I am an advocate for animal rights and welfare.. I have many rescue animals and am into parrot conservation.. I am also a vegan because I love animals and respect them too much to eat them or their products... And I am also a swinger... Swinging is my sex life, animal welfare is my real every day life... So yes, animal welfare is high on my agenda.. Rosie ." Very glad to hear it Rosie as I feel exactly the same. These ducks were like pets as the same ones used to come up to our back door and wait to be fed for the last four years. We have two cats but they don't bother the ducks atal. | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human "Justice? | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human "because animals don't have a choice and humans do so inflicting hurt upon them is deserved | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human Justice?"I suppose some see it that way. I don't agree with harming an animal in the way this duck was harmed but as I eat meat myself I'm not in a position to condemn this guy to some sort of physical punishment, including submersion without knowing the facts. | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human because animals don't have a choice and humans do so inflicting hurt upon them is deserved"Ok. Is it only animal cruelty that we're allowed to beat people up for? | |||
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"Well I kill critters for a job....from rabbits, squirrels to fly's.....if he shot it for fun then I'd be livid but as you said it put it in a bag?....for some ppl it's come to tht stage to survive ..." Ridiculous statement quite frankly. | |||
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"Well I kill critters for a job....from rabbits, squirrels to fly's.....if he shot it for fun then I'd be livid but as you said it put it in a bag?....for some ppl it's come to tht stage to survive ... Ridiculous statement quite frankly." Is it? Why....tht it's my job to kill...or he shot a duck to eat? | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human Justice?
I suppose some see it that way.
I don't agree with harming an animal in the way this duck was harmed but as I eat meat myself I'm not in a position to condemn this guy to some sort of physical punishment, including submersion without knowing the facts."People that do this sort of thing can turn into serial killers. My old man reported some evil guy called Stephen Heaney who murdered two young boys. People didn't listen at the time though and it was too late. | |||
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"This topic certainly show what type of people use this site. "It does. It concerns me how many people are prepared to use violence. | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human Justice?
I suppose some see it that way.
I don't agree with harming an animal in the way this duck was harmed but as I eat meat myself I'm not in a position to condemn this guy to some sort of physical punishment, including submersion without knowing the facts. People that do this sort of thing can turn into serial killers. My old man reported some evil guy called Stephen Heaney who murdered two young boys. People didn't listen at the time though and it was too late."Nobody has reported this guy though. Some of them said they would and some said they would beat him up. I have reported people to the RSPCA and other authorities before but I didn't ever go to their house and bash them up. | |||
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"This topic certainly show what type of people use this site.
It does. It concerns me how many people are prepared to use violence."I don't condone violence, nor do condom sick individuals harming our wildlife and environment. | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human Justice?
I suppose some see it that way.
I don't agree with harming an animal in the way this duck was harmed but as I eat meat myself I'm not in a position to condemn this guy to some sort of physical punishment, including submersion without knowing the facts. People that do this sort of thing can turn into serial killers. My old man reported some evil guy called Stephen Heaney who murdered two young boys. People didn't listen at the time though and it was too late."Nobody has reported this guy though. Some of them said they would and some said they would beat him up. I have reported people to the RSPCA and other authorities before but I didn't ever go to their house and bash them up. | |||
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"This topic certainly show what type of people use this site.
It does. It concerns me how many people are prepared to use violence.
I don't condone violence, nor do condom sick individuals harming our wildlife and environment."Neither do I. I don't condone trial by internet without the facts either | |||
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"This topic certainly show what type of people use this site.
It does. It concerns me how many people are prepared to use violence.
I don't condone violence, nor do condom sick individuals harming our wildlife and environment.
Neither do I. I don't condone trial by internet without the facts either"Don't be daft, hardly a trial is it, it's people's opinions I was interested in. The facts have been presented during the thread. The police said it was a criminal act and totally unnecessary for the man to do it. | |||
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"This topic certainly show what type of people use this site.
It does. It concerns me how many people are prepared to use violence.
I don't condone violence, nor do condom sick individuals harming our wildlife and environment.
Neither do I. I don't condone trial by internet without the facts either
Don't be daft, hardly a trial is it, it's people's opinions I was interested in. The facts have been presented during the thread. The police said it was a criminal act and totally unnecessary for the man to do it."Ok. My opinions are daft but other people's aren't. I'm out  | |||
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"This topic certainly show what type of people use this site.
It does. It concerns me how many people are prepared to use violence.
I don't condone violence, nor do condom sick individuals harming our wildlife and environment.
Neither do I. I don't condone trial by internet without the facts either
Don't be daft, hardly a trial is it, it's people's opinions I was interested in. The facts have been presented during the thread. The police said it was a criminal act and totally unnecessary for the man to do it.
Ok. My opinions are daft but other people's aren't.
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human Justice?
I suppose some see it that way.
I don't agree with harming an animal in the way this duck was harmed but as I eat meat myself I'm not in a position to condemn this guy to some sort of physical punishment, including submersion without knowing the facts. People that do this sort of thing can turn into serial killers. My old man reported some evil guy called Stephen Heaney who murdered two young boys. People didn't listen at the time though and it was too late.
Nobody has reported this guy though. Some of them said they would and some said they would beat him up. I have reported people to the RSPCA and other authorities before but I didn't ever go to their house and bash them up.
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"Interesting, I wonder if it was a rat the responses would be the same...hmmmmmm... "Hardly the same comparison, commonsense surely dictates that. | |||
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"Interesting, I wonder if it was a rat the responses would be the same...hmmmmmm...
Hardly the same comparison, commonsense surely dictates that."Why not? It's an animal isn't it? Not pretty but still an animal....lol, jeez one rule for cute n cuddly is it....and u asked for opinions, your rudeness is astounding....I'm out | |||
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"Interesting, I wonder if it was a rat the responses would be the same...hmmmmmm...
Hardly the same comparison, commonsense surely dictates that.
Why not? It's an animal isn't it? Not pretty but still an animal....lol, jeez one rule for cute n cuddly is it....and u asked for opinions, your rudeness is astounding....I'm out "Good bye, your full of contradictions anyway. | |||
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"Interesting, I wonder if it was a rat the responses would be the same...hmmmmmm...
Hardly the same comparison, commonsense surely dictates that.
Why not? It's an animal isn't it? Not pretty but still an animal....lol, jeez one rule for cute n cuddly is it....and u asked for opinions, your rudeness is astounding....I'm out "I don't have an issue with rats; I wouldn't want to see one of those killed inhumanely either.. The fact is, the guy is poaching. He has no right to be killing wildlife. If he's hungry, he could go to a food bank. These people aren't poaching out of desperation, they are poaching so they can get free food and save their money. A friend of mine got matey with a Polish guy he was working with and took him hiking in Wales. The guy said to him "don't tell my countrymen about this place, because they'll come and steel all the sheep!". He wasn't joking. | |||
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"So many who despise violence towards animals who are happy to inflict it on a human because animals don't have a choice and humans do so inflicting hurt upon them is deserved
Ok. Is it only animal cruelty that we're allowed to beat people up for?"yes and being a pedophile or other sick crimes like ra.pe | |||
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"Interesting, I wonder if it was a rat the responses would be the same...hmmmmmm...
Hardly the same comparison, commonsense surely dictates that.
Why not? It's an animal isn't it? Not pretty but still an animal....lol, jeez one rule for cute n cuddly is it....and u asked for opinions, your rudeness is astounding....I'm out
I don't have an issue with rats; I wouldn't want to see one of those killed inhumanely either..
The fact is, the guy is poaching. He has no right to be killing wildlife. If he's hungry, he could go to a food bank. These people aren't poaching out of desperation, they are poaching so they can get free food and save their money.
A friend of mine got matey with a Polish guy he was working with and took him hiking in Wales. The guy said to him "don't tell my countrymen about this place, because they'll come and steel all the sheep!". He wasn't joking."He might not have been joking, but it's not very easy to just randomly grab a sheep. | |||
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"Interesting, I wonder if it was a rat the responses would be the same...hmmmmmm...
Hardly the same comparison, commonsense surely dictates that.
Why not? It's an animal isn't it? Not pretty but still an animal....lol, jeez one rule for cute n cuddly is it....and u asked for opinions, your rudeness is astounding....I'm out
I don't have an issue with rats; I wouldn't want to see one of those killed inhumanely either..
The fact is, the guy is poaching. He has no right to be killing wildlife. If he's hungry, he could go to a food bank. These people aren't poaching out of desperation, they are poaching so they can get free food and save their money.
A friend of mine got matey with a Polish guy he was working with and took him hiking in Wales. The guy said to him "don't tell my countrymen about this place, because they'll come and steel all the sheep!". He wasn't joking.
He might not have been joking, but it's not very easy to just randomly grab a sheep. "You're joking!? In Wales, they just back right up to ya!! | |||
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"In Preston, East Europeans keep taking swans from the river ribble. East Europeans are of course immune from prosecution.If you say anything your racist Eastern Europeans aren't immune from prosecution "They just say no understand English and the Police and Environment agency do nothing | |||
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done." I'd have stuffed him in a plastic bag with a few bricks & pushed him in the river! | |||
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"As long as he was trying to kill it quickly then fine. The supermarket is full of MEAT or are we only allowed to mass slaughter animals if we pay mega bucks for it ?" Firstly, it's not fine, it's illegal. Secondly, it was still alive when he stuffed it in the bag, so he wasn't trying to kill it quickly. He could easily have broken it's neck, before putting it in the bag. | |||
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"The other day I caught a guy killing a duck on the river with a slingshot, the duck wasn't dead and he stuffed it in a plastic bag. What would you have done." asked him to share or get me one | |||
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"Ducks are protected too under same law as above including their eggs. Id be interested how many people have been successfully prosecuted for theft of wild birds in 2018,not just given a caution You'd think that but: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/watchdog-permits-170000-wild-bird-killings-in-five-years/ar-BBTWk2M
It beggers the question will humans not be content until they have destroyed the natural habitat and wildlife of the world."no they won't hopefully not many years left before the planet regains and no humans Left to destroy it | |||
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"I’m a vegetarian and see no reason why we need to kill animals to eat them at all . However this guy was clearly getting the duck for food , and probably did it quickly to save himself having to explain what he was doing to irate hypocrites who were disturbed while eating their burgers . Bug fuss about nothing in my opinion . If you aren’t a part of the eating innocent animals then fine , make a noise about his behaviour . If you eat meat , stop being a hypocrite and get on with your life without trying to sound so compassionate . " Well said | |||
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"I’m a vegetarian and see no reason why we need to kill animals to eat them at all . However this guy was clearly getting the duck for food , and probably did it quickly to save himself having to explain what he was doing to irate hypocrites who were disturbed while eating their burgers . Bug fuss about nothing in my opinion . If you aren’t a part of the eating innocent animals then fine , make a noise about his behaviour . If you eat meat , stop being a hypocrite and get on with your life without trying to sound so compassionate . " I'm nearly lost for words, god your so lost in your own bile it's unbelievable. | |||
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"There are some very callous and nasty individuals who are showing their true colours at last, and I am so pleased that I don't have to meet them." Are they the ones that are having a go at the bloke for hunting food ? | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too." So many kittens...... so few recipes. I'm off to ask some cows and sheep about their being singled out from swans and sundries. | |||
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"Swans are protected by the crown big sentence for hurting or killing one a couple of people here got arrested for beheading 4 swans I think they got 14 years " Like what is the sense for killing a swan must have a screw loose or something to be doing that | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too." give it 12 months and we probably will be. | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too." Have never (knowingly) eaten cats or dogs but I have eaten duck. Also pigeon, chicken, turkey, fish, cows, sheep, pigs, alligator, shark, goat, deer, termites, snails, crabs and baby fish. I hope this doesn't warrant me a punch in the face. | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too." That'll probably happen too. There are people going hungry here we do notlive in a civilized society because many peoples basic needs are not being fulfilled. Not gonna pretend i'm living in a civilized society either, people are going without to benefit those with more than enough already and that is not my idea of civil. | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too. That'll probably happen too. There are people going hungry here we do notlive in a civilized society because many peoples basic needs are not being fulfilled. Not gonna pretend i'm living in a civilized society either, people are going without to benefit those with more than enough already and that is not my idea of civil." I agree which is a different subject, the point I am trying to make is the future of our environment including wildlife and the countryside. If we don't care as adults and cynical of this type of subject. What hope have we for future generations. | |||
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"I’m a vegetarian and see no reason why we need to kill animals to eat them at all . However this guy was clearly getting the duck for food , and probably did it quickly to save himself having to explain what he was doing to irate hypocrites who were disturbed while eating their burgers . Bug fuss about nothing in my opinion . If you aren’t a part of the eating innocent animals then fine , make a noise about his behaviour . If you eat meat , stop being a hypocrite and get on with your life without trying to sound so compassionate . I'm nearly lost for words, god your so lost in your own bile it's unbelievable. "It’s a shame you you are only ‘nearly’ last for words as you still seem to be making a whole lot of noise . Get over it , it’s the circle of life . And as I said , I don’t eat meat as I don’t feel it’s necessary . Do you ? | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too. That'll probably happen too. There are people going hungry here we do notlive in a civilized society because many peoples basic needs are not being fulfilled. Not gonna pretend i'm living in a civilized society either, people are going without to benefit those with more than enough already and that is not my idea of civil. I agree which is a different subject, the point I am trying to make is the future of our environment including wildlife and the countryside. If we don't care as adults and cynical of this type of subject. What hope have we for future generations." Like I get the normal stuff like beef chicken pork fish etc but this so called exotic or delicacy stuff snakes snails frogs swans or whatever else odd people can kill just to see if it tastes nice like we are not caveman this is supposed to be a civilised world I guess not huh | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too. That'll probably happen too. There are people going hungry here we do notlive in a civilized society because many peoples basic needs are not being fulfilled. Not gonna pretend i'm living in a civilized society either, people are going without to benefit those with more than enough already and that is not my idea of civil. I agree which is a different subject, the point I am trying to make is the future of our environment including wildlife and the countryside. If we don't care as adults and cynical of this type of subject. What hope have we for future generations. Like I get the normal stuff like beef chicken pork fish etc but this so called exotic or delicacy stuff snakes snails frogs swans or whatever else odd people can kill just to see if it tastes nice like we are not caveman this is supposed to be a civilised world I guess not huh " A fair amount of people in the world would consider you anything but civilised for eating beef or pork. | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too. That'll probably happen too. There are people going hungry here we do notlive in a civilized society because many peoples basic needs are not being fulfilled. Not gonna pretend i'm living in a civilized society either, people are going without to benefit those with more than enough already and that is not my idea of civil. I agree which is a different subject, the point I am trying to make is the future of our environment including wildlife and the countryside. If we don't care as adults and cynical of this type of subject. What hope have we for future generations. Like I get the normal stuff like beef chicken pork fish etc but this so called exotic or delicacy stuff snakes snails frogs swans or whatever else odd people can kill just to see if it tastes nice like we are not caveman this is supposed to be a civilised world I guess not huh A fair amount of people in the world would consider you anything but civilised for eating beef or pork." I'm guessing your a vegetarian? | |||
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Ah I see how was the shark I heard its high in zinc or something lol
Can't remember but it was probably like chicken. Termites tasted like dry roasted nuts, but with legs."K shark I'd try but termites I think I'll stick with the regular kp stuff lol | |||
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"Apart from the "method" of killing, I don't see the problem here. People yank fish out of the river and bludgeon them, not always initially successfully and take them home to eat. People shoot pheasant, grouse etc and take them home to eat. People shoot and trap rabbits and take them home to eat. This guy did the same thing - just thank gobudlah he didn't have a 12 bore under his arm "Very short sighted then aren't you, perhaps take the kids to see the ducks and swans and feed them. O dear they're all gone. | |||
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"Apart from the "method" of killing, I don't see the problem here. People yank fish out of the river and bludgeon them, not always initially successfully and take them home to eat. People shoot pheasant, grouse etc and take them home to eat. People shoot and trap rabbits and take them home to eat. This guy did the same thing - just thank gobudlah he didn't have a 12 bore under his arm
Very short sighted then aren't you, perhaps take the kids to see the ducks and swans and feed them.
O dear they're all gone."Is this a city-dweller/countryside-dweller thing? I've lived in rural areas in the UK and elsewhere all my life. Hunting and killing for food is how humans got here, it seems odd to disparage it now. Where do those kids think their crispy duck comes from? | |||
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"Not atal, I have had lots of support on this subject and a few on this forum who really are too dense to actually get it. The duck suffered and was in distress, animal cruelty simple as that." One thing I’m certainly not is dense . Nor do I try and ram my personal feelings towards animal welfare ,( whether that be a duck that may have still been alive in a carrier bag , or the treatment of any any animal slaughtered for our delectation ) , down anyone’s throat . Anyway you carry on with your crusade and if it makes you feel good about yourself to show such vitriol to anyone who doesn’t agree with you , fill your boots . | |||
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"Not atal, I have had lots of support on this subject and a few on this forum who really are too dense to actually get it. The duck suffered and was in distress, animal cruelty simple as that. One thing I’m certainly not is dense . Nor do I try and ram my personal feelings towards animal welfare ,( whether that be a duck that may have still been alive in a carrier bag , or the treatment of any any animal slaughtered for our delectation ) , down anyone’s throat . Anyway you carry on with your crusade and if it makes you feel good about yourself to show such vitriol to anyone who doesn’t agree with you , fill your boots ." Just shows what your true character is like sweetie, I'm just passionate on animal welfare and the environment. Also a very compassionate person who cares for fellow humans too. Unfortunately I wear my heart on my sleeve and feelings run strong and I will always stick up for those that can't. Sorry if this gets up your nose, but I try to make the world a better place in my own little way. | |||
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"This is supposed to be a civilized society, not a third world country with people desperate for food. So it's acceptable for all wildlife to eaten including swans, birds and all and sundry. Perhaps we should start eating cats and dogs too. That'll probably happen too. There are people going hungry here we do notlive in a civilized society because many peoples basic needs are not being fulfilled. Not gonna pretend i'm living in a civilized society either, people are going without to benefit those with more than enough already and that is not my idea of civil. I agree which is a different subject, the point I am trying to make is the future of our environment including wildlife and the countryside. If we don't care as adults and cynical of this type of subject. What hope have we for future generations." Suppose it's a branch off subject yeah. I think we've always been 'selfish' as a society, maybe we used to live like the Native Americans at one point and lived in harmony with the environment but i don't remember it being mentioned in history class ever. And even to this day anyone living a 'hippy' lifestyle is mocked and that kinda says it all to me about how much anyone truly cares. Go on about not eating meat and you'll be mocked for it, as well as have civilized support from other nonmeat eaters, but look at the fuss over greggs vegetarian sausage rolls compared to the fuss made over this weeks revelations about the pig farming industry and how cruel that is and you can see that animal welfare is really low on most peoples priorities. Hope i edited all the spaces into that,my keyboard is shite sorry. | |||
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"Unfortunately I wear my heart on my sleeve and feelings run strong and I will always stick up for those that can't. " Unless they disagree with your world view... in which case they're dense. | |||
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason... "Which protection law is that? | |||
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason...
Which protection law is that?"Ignorance of the law is no defence. I just hope Crystal and Mr Underfoot will remain safe with all this slaying. | |||
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason...
Which protection law is that?"It's the one where ducks are perfectly tasty gamebirds which you are allowed to shoot in the season.... | |||
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason...
Which protection law is that?
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
I just hope Crystal and Mr Underfoot will remain safe with all this slaying."Didn't say it was. I'm just waiting for one of you to take me out of my own ignorance by explaining to me which law it is that makes ducks a protected species? | |||
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason...
Which protection law is that?
It's the one where ducks are perfectly tasty gamebirds which you are allowed to shoot in the season....
That's what I thought.
Totally quackers.
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"We ate in a restaurant called the Roadkill Cafe once (not in this continent). They advertised themselves as 'you kill it we grill it' "Did they accept a duck in a carrier bag ? | |||
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason...
Which protection law is that?
It's the one where ducks are perfectly tasty gamebirds which you are allowed to shoot in the season....
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"How does that saying go? "You can't educate.....", oh, what was it now!?
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"How does that saying go? "You can't educate.....", oh, what was it now!?
You tell me, I'm guessing you're the clever one in your version of reality.
You can tell me about the duck protection law while you're at it..."Lol I like it you know most of them are stuck in the matrix world right they should have took the red pill or was it blue to bring them back to reality | |||
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"How does that saying go? "You can't educate.....", oh, what was it now!?
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"How does that saying go? "You can't educate.....", oh, what was it now!?
You tell me, I'm guessing you're the clever one in your version of reality.
You can tell me about the duck protection law while you're at it..."Wildlife and countryside act 1981. I didn't bother responding to your question before, as it had already been pointed out.  | |||
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"How does that saying go? "You can't educate.....", oh, what was it now!?
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You can tell me about the duck protection law while you're at it...
Wildlife and countryside act 1981.
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason... "If you're on about me then i've not turned it into a vegan argument, i'm saying people pick and choose animal cruelty in whatever way suits them and nobody really gives a shit when animal cruelty benefits them. | |||
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"How does that saying go? "You can't educate.....", oh, what was it now!?
You tell me, I'm guessing you're the clever one in your version of reality.
You can tell me about the duck protection law while you're at it...
Wildlife and countryside act 1981.
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"How does that saying go? "You can't educate.....", oh, what was it now!?
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You can tell me about the duck protection law while you're at it...
Wildlife and countryside act 1981.
I didn't bother responding to your question before, as it had already been pointed out.
Thanks.
The only reference I can see to ducks on the list of protected birds are the Long-tailed Duck and the Shelduck.
No mention of Donald or Daffy."From the RSPB website: Wild birds and their nests are protected by the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 in England, Scotland and Wales, which includes that it is an offence to intentionally (or recklessly in Scotland) kill, injure or take any wild bird, or to take, damage or destroy (or otherwise interfere with in Scotland) its nest, eggs or young. This includes mallards and other wildfowl, but these can also be legally shot during open seasons, subject to certain legal provisions. The open season for mallards is normally from 1 September to 31 January, with an extension which applies below the high water mark of ordinary spring tides on the coast in England, Wales and Scotland until 20 February. Northern Ireland has its own legislation. | |||
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"I don't get why this thread had turned into another argument about vegetarianism/veganism!?! How can anyone jump to the defence of A. A poacher and B. Someone who cruelly killed a duck!? This has absolutely nothing g to do with whether or not you are a meat eater... I'm a meat eater! That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and decimate our wildlife. The protection laws are there for a reason...
If you're on about me then i've not turned it into a vegan argument, i'm saying people pick and choose animal cruelty in whatever way suits them and nobody really gives a shit when animal cruelty benefits them.
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"Taken pictures and followed him to his car to get reg details and gone to the police. RSPCA would do bugger all (I used to work for them) If I was with other people I'd have challenged him, got the duck and gone to the vets. Something not to laugh at "Exactly | |||
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"Back in the days I would have been angry at the person, but now I would think they may have needful circumstances? We had up to 50 ducks at any one time, sadly only about a dozen left now. I hate to say it, but it's mostly eastern Europeans. We have it around here too. They're stealing all the fish out of the ponds, taking swans and ducks, and ravaging the land of anything edible. You see them out with carrier bags picking anything you can eat! This is totally illegal and ultimately bad for the eco system. I have a view of a river/canal from where I live so I enjoy seeing geese,ducks and moorhens so I understand your loss. We have barges in the area too which would provide avert that issue.
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"Well I kill critters for a job....from rabbits, squirrels to fly's.....if he shot it for fun then I'd be livid but as you said it put it in a bag?....for some ppl it's come to tht stage to survive ..." Don't know what your job is( pest control??) .. but how can you sleep at night? Don't bother replying to me cos I ain't gonna read it... I know you are just going to try and justify yourself.. No justification as far as |I'm concerned. |However, that is just me, I'm sure other people will be on your side but count me out. | |||
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"Well I kill critters for a job....from rabbits, squirrels to fly's.....if he shot it for fun then I'd be livid but as you said it put it in a bag?....for some ppl it's come to tht stage to survive ... Don't know what your job is( pest control??) .. but how can you sleep at night? Don't bother replying to me cos I ain't gonna read it... I know you are just going to try and justify yourself.. No justification as far as |I'm concerned. |However, that is just me, I'm sure other people will be on your side but count me out. " Is this argument still going on lol pls for the love of god I hope part 2 of this thread doesn't show up lol | |||
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"Well I kill critters for a job....from rabbits, squirrels to fly's.....if he shot it for fun then I'd be livid but as you said it put it in a bag?....for some ppl it's come to tht stage to survive ... Don't know what your job is( pest control??) .. but how can you sleep at night? Don't bother replying to me cos I ain't gonna read it... I know you are just going to try and justify yourself.. No justification as far as |I'm concerned. |However, that is just me, I'm sure other people will be on your side but count me out. Is this argument still going on lol pls for the love of god I hope part 2 of this thread doesn't show up lol" If it bothers you that much, simply don't read the thread. You have nothing to contribute anyway apart from moaning, better concentrate on your own lonely status. | |||
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"Back in the days I would have been angry at the person, but now I would think they may have needful circumstances? We had up to 50 ducks at any one time, sadly only about a dozen left now. I hate to say it, but it's mostly eastern Europeans. We have it around here too. They're stealing all the fish out of the ponds, taking swans and ducks, and ravaging the land of anything edible. You see them out with carrier bags picking anything you can eat! This is totally illegal and ultimately bad for the eco system. I have a view of a river/canal from where I live so I enjoy seeing geese,ducks and moorhens so I understand your loss. We have barges in the area too which would provide avert that issue.
Yes much the same as our garden run along the river and we enjoy watching trout, moorhens, egrets and even cormirets. Sadly everything is disappearing and nobody seems to care.
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