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"I'd walk away from here." Without any pondering at all? | |||
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"Would depend on the person but I'd definitely give it up and walk away never to look back. " Never...??? That's a very long time | |||
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"Not if I couldn't be 100% myself with that person. I would always want to be with someone who accepts me for all that I am including my kinks, my desires and how I express myself sexually." But would that include swinging? | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? " Having a just in case get out isn't having a real relationship is it? I might stay here for the forums bit would be totally open honest and up front about it | |||
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"It would take a special man to tie me down. " How special? | |||
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"Yep. " Which one? | |||
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"Would depend on the person but I'd definitely give it up and walk away never to look back. Never...??? That's a very long time " Well OK, assuming the relationship lasted. If it didn't I probably would return. For the duration of the relationship I'd never look back. | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? Having a just in case get out isn't having a real relationship is it? I might stay here for the forums bit would be totally open honest and up front about it" Like Seeside you mean? | |||
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"Nah" Nah what?? | |||
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"Would depend on the person but I'd definitely give it up and walk away never to look back. Never...??? That's a very long time Well OK, assuming the relationship lasted. If it didn't I probably would return. For the duration of the relationship I'd never look back. " That's fair comment! Would you delete your profile or just hide it? | |||
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"It would take a special man to tie me down. How special? " I don't know, I've yet to find him | |||
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"Fab is just a past time its not my life. So it would be very easy to walk away. " Good point | |||
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"Would depend. If I ever do settle down I want a swinging or open relationship x" So that's really a no to a "vanilla" relationship really isn't it? | |||
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"No. I'd want my cake and be able to eat it " So you would keep fab in the background then, or just be really active in both areas? | |||
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"It would take a special man to tie me down. How special? I don't know, I've yet to find him " Haha, that's fair enough | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. " this | |||
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"I'd run a freaking mile in the other direction. " But you already have a husband ... | |||
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"Give it up (not that I’ve been in here long) But I doubt I’d be with someone vanilla now " Blimey, you must have made the most if your fab time | |||
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"Would depend. If I ever do settle down I want a swinging or open relationship x So that's really a no to a "vanilla" relationship really isn't it? " What do you mean by a vanilla relationship? Monogamy? No kink? | |||
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"Not if I couldn't be 100% myself with that person. I would always want to be with someone who accepts me for all that I am including my kinks, my desires and how I express myself sexually. But would that include swinging? " For me personally yes and life is too short not be your self and proud of who you are. Would it be a healthy relationship if you couldn't fully be yourself with the person you love? | |||
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"I'd run a freaking mile in the other direction. But you already have a husband ..." Yes. As do many others on this here swingers site | |||
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"No. I'd want my cake and be able to eat it So you would keep fab in the background then, or just be really active in both areas? " It doesn't apply to me but hypothetically I keep fab on the background, I'm not that 'active' on here anyway. | |||
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"Depends on the person , they would be alreadyu be aware that i swing etc , if I loved them an they had no interest in swinging an we had great sex together , I could drop fab instantly. I would keep in touch with any real friends made though. As i did when dropping off trans scene when last in a relationship , i still invited my best mate who is trans to all house parties/xmas/special occasions . I couldn't keep it hidden and don't cheat so it would go but maybe it wouldn't have too as i'd hope any relationship would involve someone off similar interests " So that's also a kind of no to a "vanilla" relationship too then? | |||
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"There is one person who came back into my life towards the end of last year who, yes, I would definitely be with her and give up fab. A pretty special lady and the only person I would ever consider having a relationship with now." That's fair enough, and she must be very special | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. " That's a good attitude | |||
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"Not if I couldn't be 100% myself with that person. I would always want to be with someone who accepts me for all that I am including my kinks, my desires and how I express myself sexually. But would that include swinging? For me personally yes and life is too short not be your self and proud of who you are. Would it be a healthy relationship if you couldn't fully be yourself with the person you love?" I do struggle to understand people who say they would conceal this aspect of their life from a potential partner. I know I don't need to understand but I am of the same opinion as you that you need to be your true self with a partner | |||
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"Give it up (not that I’ve been in here long) But I doubt I’d be with someone vanilla now Blimey, you must have made the most if your fab time " not yet!!! | |||
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"Would depend on the person but I'd definitely give it up and walk away never to look back. Never...??? That's a very long time Well OK, assuming the relationship lasted. If it didn't I probably would return. For the duration of the relationship I'd never look back. That's fair comment! Would you delete your profile or just hide it? " Hide. No point starting over if it didn't work out. | |||
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"Yes. Without a doubt. Fab is just a past time for me I'm not using it as a way of life. " I guess you mean you would leave it behind? | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. That's a good attitude " It's being honest. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by not being able to reciprocate any expectations or feelings they might have. | |||
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"I'd walk away no problem. I meet very few men for anything more than friendship now so wouldn't be a big change. " I get that *nods* | |||
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"Would depend. If I ever do settle down I want a swinging or open relationship x So that's really a no to a "vanilla" relationship really isn't it? What do you mean by a vanilla relationship? Monogamy? No kink?" Monogamy I guess, the total opposite of fab | |||
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"Not if I couldn't be 100% myself with that person. I would always want to be with someone who accepts me for all that I am including my kinks, my desires and how I express myself sexually. But would that include swinging? For me personally yes and life is too short not be your self and proud of who you are. Would it be a healthy relationship if you couldn't fully be yourself with the person you love?" It was a question, not a critisism | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. " Don’t be too sure about no muddying of waters on Fab.... | |||
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"Would depend. If I ever do settle down I want a swinging or open relationship x So that's really a no to a "vanilla" relationship really isn't it? " I've learned to keep an open mind and never say never x | |||
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"I wouldn't do either. I'd tell them early on about fab etc so they'd only be with me if it was something they could accept and enjoy. " Fair enough | |||
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"Fuuuck no. I'm never getting tied down monogamously to a dude/dudette. I might consider a relationship with a couple...however I would expect the three of us swinging as high as possible " | |||
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"It would need to be someone I really felt strongly about to even consider a relationship. But if I did, I'd want to at least ask them to think about swinging. If it was a no and I really couldn't imagine not being with them, I'd give things a go away from Fab. " That's fair | |||
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"Has somebody offered you a full on relationship OP? " No, I was just thinking about the scenario while chatting about "relationships" at work | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? " Always take real life. | |||
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"Why does relationship away from here in the real world where we all live have to be "vanilla"?" I didn't say it did, it was merely a question ... Maybe "traditional" would have been a better choice of word than "vanilla" | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. Don’t be too sure about no muddying of waters on Fab...." I'm extraordinarily good at compartmentalizing. There would be no muddying on my end! | |||
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"Seriously I have done that move to the vanilla relationship and though I miss the social side of meeting as a couple within the swinging scene it's not the same as a single and mainly keep in touch in the Forums and long time friends" Fair enough | |||
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" So that's also a kind of no to a "vanilla" relationship too then? " Not really because if i loved someone and they definitely didn't want to swing , as long as we satisfied each other sexually and emotionally i wouldn't swing. The swinging is great etc , but i can have filthy satisfying sex without it My pool of people i mix with for most nights out etc are nowadays mostly swinger or fetish types so the vanilla options are limited . | |||
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"No. I have absolutely no desire to ever be in a conventional 24/7 relationship ever again. " I understand that | |||
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"Would depend on the person but I'd definitely give it up and walk away never to look back. Never...??? That's a very long time Well OK, assuming the relationship lasted. If it didn't I probably would return. For the duration of the relationship I'd never look back. That's fair comment! Would you delete your profile or just hide it? Hide. No point starting over if it didn't work out. " | |||
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"Sorry. I'd walk away. " Okay, that's fair enough | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. That's a good attitude It's being honest. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by not being able to reciprocate any expectations or feelings they might have." But it's a good attitude too because not everyone is honest on here in such a straightforward way | |||
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"No i like doing what i choose to" I get that | |||
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"Swinging = pleasurable, but shallow Vanilla = long term happiness, doesn't need to be dull though" Yea, I get that. | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? Always take real life. " That's fair enough | |||
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"Depends on the person,and I would. If she wanted to get involved swinging and fab I would not stand in her way." You would what? Walk away or keep fab in the background? | |||
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"It would depend if a full on relationship was what I wanted or not " True enough | |||
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" So that's also a kind of no to a "vanilla" relationship too then? Not really because if i loved someone and they definitely didn't want to swing , as long as we satisfied each other sexually and emotionally i wouldn't swing. The swinging is great etc , but i can have filthy satisfying sex without it My pool of people i mix with for most nights out etc are nowadays mostly swinger or fetish types so the vanilla options are limited ." That makes your choices simpler then I guess ? | |||
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"If I happened to fall on love with someone from the 'real world' and I was considering a relationship with them, then I assume that they would already know about me being on here and accept me for who I am. If they didn't tick all my kinky boxes as well (as the regular boxes), then there would be no relationship. There's no way I'd continue on here behind anyone's back. " Good attitude | |||
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"I would walk away " That's fair enough | |||
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"I could be monogamous-ish, hide my profile & log off fab but I would never want a typically vanilla relationship. This mythical man would know about fab & would know my kinks. Ideally there would be a couples profile, I still want moresomes & I can't see that changing. Saying that, if a relationship was what I wanted, I'd probably put more time into looking than being on fab " So you would not walk away from fab then? | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. " You are implying that all fab females are of sound mind and won't get emotionally attached. | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? " I'd tell them about Fab well before it got to that stage. I do that out of honesty, but also to observe their reaction. I'm not trying to convince them to get into swinging. I fell in love with a woman from Plenty of Fish a while back, she wasn't sure if she could swing, but it didn't matter to me, I was just glad she wasn't horrified by it. I'd have given up on Swinging, but only because she was special enough to make up for the loss There are more important things in life. I hid it from someone once, I've learnt my lesson. I'll never hide it again. I'm either IN or OUT. No betweenseys. | |||
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"Ive got the best of both worlds " I might have that option too. | |||
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"Not if I couldn't be 100% myself with that person. I would always want to be with someone who accepts me for all that I am including my kinks, my desires and how I express myself sexually. But would that include swinging? For me personally yes and life is too short not be your self and proud of who you are. Would it be a healthy relationship if you couldn't fully be yourself with the person you love? It was a question, not a critisism " No criticism taken, maybe my intent came across wrong in written text. I just think when people can't be them self in a relationship this is unhealthy. Its not good to force your self to try and fit in a box that is just not you. Unfortunately most people don't really start to get to know them self till later in life. So it follows that ideally you should be with someone who loves you for who you are and revels in your deviance with you. | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. " I've seen lots of people openly say they are only using the site for sex. | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. " Why is that weird? | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. " Seems perfectly reasonable to me | |||
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"No. I have absolutely no desire to ever be in a conventional 24/7 relationship ever again. " Me too. | |||
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"I could be monogamous-ish, hide my profile & log off fab but I would never want a typically vanilla relationship. This mythical man would know about fab & would know my kinks. Ideally there would be a couples profile, I still want moresomes & I can't see that changing. Saying that, if a relationship was what I wanted, I'd probably put more time into looking than being on fab So you would not walk away from fab then? " No | |||
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"Doesn't apply to me as i'm not looking for a relationship. Another reason why all my "funny business" is now exclusively on fab. No muddying of the waters. You are implying that all fab females are of sound mind and won't get emotionally attached." I'm not implying anything, but in theory everyone knows why we're here and can be completely honest in intent. There is the risk of emotional attachment but that wouldn't occur from my end of that i'm certain. It works both ways and men here can get emotionally attached as well and i've seen some extreme examples of this. | |||
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"Why does relationship away from here in the real world where we all live have to be "vanilla"? I didn't say it did, it was merely a question ... Maybe "traditional" would have been a better choice of word than "vanilla" " For the right person and the right relationship where it was what we both wanted I'd walk away from here without a backwards glance. Not sure if that makes me traditional,an incurable romantic, or just an idiot.... | |||
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"Why does relationship away from here in the real world where we all live have to be "vanilla"? I didn't say it did, it was merely a question ... Maybe "traditional" would have been a better choice of word than "vanilla" For the right person and the right relationship where it was what we both wanted I'd walk away from here without a backwards glance. Not sure if that makes me traditional,an incurable romantic, or just an idiot.... " You just want to feel complete ? | |||
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"Why does relationship away from here in the real world where we all live have to be "vanilla"? I didn't say it did, it was merely a question ... Maybe "traditional" would have been a better choice of word than "vanilla" For the right person and the right relationship where it was what we both wanted I'd walk away from here without a backwards glance. Not sure if that makes me traditional,an incurable romantic, or just an idiot.... You just want to feel complete ?" All my parts are still here and in working order | |||
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"Why does relationship away from here in the real world where we all live have to be "vanilla"? I didn't say it did, it was merely a question ... Maybe "traditional" would have been a better choice of word than "vanilla" For the right person and the right relationship where it was what we both wanted I'd walk away from here without a backwards glance. Not sure if that makes me traditional,an incurable romantic, or just an idiot.... You just want to feel complete ? All my parts are still here and in working order " Holistically | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. Why is that weird? " I guess it comes down to what people want and how they view fab. Personally I don't see why you can't enjoy fab things as well as have a relationship. | |||
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"I wouldn't tell them about Fab and I wouldn't delete my account. " Very honest response | |||
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"Why does relationship away from here in the real world where we all live have to be "vanilla"? I didn't say it did, it was merely a question ... Maybe "traditional" would have been a better choice of word than "vanilla" For the right person and the right relationship where it was what we both wanted I'd walk away from here without a backwards glance. Not sure if that makes me traditional,an incurable romantic, or just an idiot.... " Frustratingly, I know exactly what you mean and think my honest answer to my OP would most probably be this | |||
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"I doubt I’ll ever have to make that decision. One man? Sounds hellish. " That's fair enough | |||
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"I doubt I’ll ever have to make that decision. One man? Sounds hellish. " I can do the one man bit. It's the different kinks, adventures and women that I'd find the hardest! Luckily I have my own perv who celebrates that side of me P | |||
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"Never had a relationship before never needed one and could never find one. So I doubt I'll ever find one on here or anywhere else. " Same here but if it happened I would as I posted earlier be gone from here | |||
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"I have issues with monogamy, I don't think it's the way we should be. Monogamy just makes people cheat. I would rather be in a honest open relationship and they would only be perfect for me if they could accept that " When I was happy in my previous marriage I had no desire to cheat. When it fell apart, I was tempted but never fully cheated. I don't necessarily think monogamy makes people cheat, it depends on the dynamics of the relationship...I think | |||
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"The day i leave i will choose a heir to my kingdom teach them the secret of life pass them my login and move on but untill that day your stuck with me Pmf forever " You daft bugger | |||
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"The day i leave i will choose a heir to my kingdom teach them the secret of life pass them my login and move on but untill that day your stuck with me Pmf forever You daft bugger " I must preserve my legacy | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? " No. Im a swinger. I like the lifestyle. | |||
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"Yep. As long as he was filthy in the bedroom and his sex drive matched mine then i could happily walk away from here for good. Some of the best and dirtiest sex i have had have been with boyfriends i met in the Vanilla world. " That's a win then | |||
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"The day i leave i will choose a heir to my kingdom teach them the secret of life pass them my login and move on but untill that day your stuck with me Pmf forever You daft bugger I must preserve my legacy " If you did go, you'd never be forgotten on here, that's for sure | |||
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"I’d be typing my password and the words I UNDERSTAND quicker than anything if I had a real relationship. I’d miss the forums and the people but my attention would be on my relationship. " I knew if you posted here that would be your response, and it's great that you stand by what you always say about relationships | |||
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"Surprised at the answers, no one mentions 'love'. I assume you would all leave if you fell in love? Even before the chance of that I would leave in a heart beat. Vanilla is amazing with the right person, just that catching of eye contact- true connection. I am sure the couples on here would agree that what they have together is beyond swinging." Judging by some responses, you might be partially right. I guess, like everything, some would and some wouldn't | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. " Exactly that, always was !! | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. Exactly that, always was !!" Always was what? | |||
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"Surprised at the answers, no one mentions 'love'. I assume you would all leave if you fell in love? Even before the chance of that I would leave in a heart beat. Vanilla is amazing with the right person, just that catching of eye contact- true connection. " Some people don't want love of course, but I do, I would love to be gone forever. | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? " It depends on how well you know that person, and kinda insert the subject of swinging into the conversation sometime and watch there reaction,And hopefully for your sake it works out that ye both are interested and can have a relationship. But yes I would walk away from here for a relationship. But I will be honest with them about been on here. | |||
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"Surprised at the answers, no one mentions 'love'. I assume you would all leave if you fell in love? Even before the chance of that I would leave in a heart beat. Vanilla is amazing with the right person, just that catching of eye contact- true connection. Some people don't want love of course, but I do, I would love to be gone forever." me too | |||
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"...was offering you a chance for a full on relationship, would you take it and give up fab or would you keep fab in the background "just in case"? It depends on how well you know that person, and kinda insert the subject of swinging into the conversation sometime and watch there reaction,And hopefully for your sake it works out that ye both are interested and can have a relationship. But yes I would walk away from here for a relationship. But I will be honest with them about been on here. " But you would still wish to swing ...? (Sorry if I misunderstood) | |||
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"I’m just here for the forums and the entertainment . And the odd snog " That didn't answer my question!! | |||
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"I’m just here for the forums and the entertainment . And the odd snog " Pucker up buttercup *smooooooch* P | |||
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"I’m just here for the forums and the entertainment . And the odd snog That didn't answer my question!! " What was it? I shall look. Sorry | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. " Weird in what way? Can people who have been on here meeting random multiple people for sex not find one person that is enough for them? Couples stop meeting after a while too, when they have had enough. This isn't a stop gap for me; I'm here for sex. I'm not looking for a swinging partner and I'll be more than happy to stop meeting men from here and just have sex with one man. | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. Weird in what way? Can people who have been on here meeting random multiple people for sex not find one person that is enough for them? Couples stop meeting after a while too, when they have had enough. This isn't a stop gap for me; I'm here for sex. I'm not looking for a swinging partner and I'll be more than happy to stop meeting men from here and just have sex with one man. " I totally understand where you're coming from there | |||
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"I’m just here for the forums and the entertainment . And the odd snog That didn't answer my question!! What was it? I shall look. Sorry " Ah right. No. I don’t want a relationship on or off fab. I don’t really use fab like most people do though. It’s just a bit of entertainment. The thread’s a bit irrelevant to me really. Sorry. I’ll get my coat . | |||
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"I doubt I’ll ever have to make that decision. One man? Sounds hellish. I can do the one man bit. It's the different kinks, adventures and women that I'd find the hardest! Luckily I have my own perv who celebrates that side of me P" That sounds wonderful. A couple of pervs would be doubly nice | |||
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"Maybe it's just me but I do find it a little weird that so many people on here would leave if they met someone outside of fab. Like they are using this as a 'stop gap' for sex between relationships. Weird in what way? Can people who have been on here meeting random multiple people for sex not find one person that is enough for them? Couples stop meeting after a while too, when they have had enough. This isn't a stop gap for me; I'm here for sex. I'm not looking for a swinging partner and I'll be more than happy to stop meeting men from here and just have sex with one man. " (Except change men to women ) | |||
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"I’m just here for the forums and the entertainment . And the odd snog That didn't answer my question!! What was it? I shall look. Sorry Ah right. No. I don’t want a relationship on or off fab. I don’t really use fab like most people do though. It’s just a bit of entertainment. The thread’s a bit irrelevant to me really. Sorry. I’ll get my coat . " Don't be daft, you've answered the question now | |||
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"I’m just here for the forums and the entertainment . And the odd snog That didn't answer my question!! What was it? I shall look. Sorry Ah right. No. I don’t want a relationship on or off fab. I don’t really use fab like most people do though. It’s just a bit of entertainment. The thread’s a bit irrelevant to me really. Sorry. I’ll get my coat . Don't be daft, you've answered the question now " . Daft as a brush me | |||
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"yep I did, 6 months it was fun.Back now of course. Ha" This is why I asked if you would keep fab in the background "just in case" ... | |||
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"I’m just here for the forums and the entertainment . And the odd snog That didn't answer my question!! What was it? I shall look. Sorry Ah right. No. I don’t want a relationship on or off fab. I don’t really use fab like most people do though. It’s just a bit of entertainment. The thread’s a bit irrelevant to me really. Sorry. I’ll get my coat . Don't be daft, you've answered the question now . Daft as a brush me " Haha, so am I | |||
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"Love conquers all." If only..... | |||
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"Love conquers all. If only..... " I'm sure that it can ... Sometimes | |||
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"I doubt I’ll ever have to make that decision. One man? Sounds hellish. I can do the one man bit. It's the different kinks, adventures and women that I'd find the hardest! Luckily I have my own perv who celebrates that side of me P That sounds wonderful. A couple of pervs would be doubly nice " Now now, don't be greedy | |||
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"Love conquers all. If only..... " You need to believe | |||
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"I doubt I’ll ever have to make that decision. One man? Sounds hellish. I can do the one man bit. It's the different kinks, adventures and women that I'd find the hardest! Luckily I have my own perv who celebrates that side of me P That sounds wonderful. A couple of pervs would be doubly nice Now now, don't be greedy " Spoilsport | |||
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"I have issues with monogamy, I don't think it's the way we should be. Monogamy just makes people cheat. I would rather be in a honest open relationship and they would only be perfect for me if they could accept that " Hallelujah | |||
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"Absolutely would walk away from here. Met nice guys on POF that I recognised from fab, no way would I date them as would never be able to trust that they also would 100% stay away from here" But you can't always know that for certain. You're on here too, they may think the same way... | |||
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"I’ve always said I could probably give up swinging if I had to, but couldn’t give up the sexual openness we have. I wasn’t expecting to be swinging when I became single, but I knew that I’d need someone who could accept my commenting on other guys/girls, who liked porn and who was just generally open about sexual stuff. Luckily I met SSS on here so never became an issue TB" I do think nobody should think they "have to" give up swinging anyway, if you were to feel that way, it definitely wouldn't be right You two definitely have a great dynamic in your relationship tho | |||
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