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No more Cwtch, maybe.
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over a year ago
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So in the news it’s suggested that people are or were bidding or campaigning to scrap the Welsh language.  .
Who’s welsh in here and can speak this foraign tongue? Does this really cost tax payers that much money to make them speak English only. 
Can we expect the future to study welsh instead of Latin in 100s of years to impress people?
Trafodwtch ... *Discuss.  |
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I don't know much about this but I thought there were a lot of people who spoke Welsh as a first language. I don't think it's a good idea to scrap a language. I think it cause resentment and rightly so. |
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over a year ago
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"I don't know much about this but I thought there were a lot of people who spoke Welsh as a first language. I don't think it's a good idea to scrap a language. I think it cause resentment and rightly so."
I think only 209 people speak it.
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over a year ago
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As a Welsh speaker, I don't think they should stop speaking it in School.
I wasn't taught it, I grew up with it. I didn't get the opportunity to use it at School, because of living in England, I'd of loved to have gone to a Welsh stream School. And Welsh shouldn't not be taught in English stream Schools either.
I don't understand why Welsh isn't taught in English Schools, instead favouring French and Spanish. Why not when Welsh is a home language.
I work in early years, un an English setting, and it annoys me that the EYFS promotes diversity, and understanding of other cultures, which is great of course to learn about Diwali, but lets celebrate Welsh culture as well.
I always make a point of marking St Davids and St Dwynwen's Day.
I have the Welsh language in my room, and speak and sing to my children in Welsh. They love it!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't know much about this either.. but it's such a beautiful language to listen too. I speak very very little Welsh and they are so patient with me when I'm trying to say things in Welsh. Yes I get laughed at alot as I always get something wrong! But it's in a fun way.
In the north they ask you to speak what ever Welsh you know. But if you don't know any they will try to teach you anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Two points above. Your right about it being odd to choose languages to speak rather than our home land in the UK.
And Welsh is a gorgeous language, I’m sure an argument in Welsh could put me softly to sleep.
Cerys Mathews has a wonderful singing voice too.
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over a year ago
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My daughter is a fluent Welsh speaker as she’s been in welsh nursery and primary school since the age of 2 and a half.
My welsh was ok but over the last 7 years since she’s been in school it’s got a lot better. Has to because all the text messages and information comes through in welsh, I’ll give an example...
Gwybodaeth. Dril Tan yfory am 8:40yb. Plant sydd wedi cyrraedd yr ysgol i ymgynnull yn y lle arferol. Rhieni i aros ar yr iard Diolch
Now I knew that’s something about a fire alarm at 8:40am! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's a shame for any language to die out. A lot here still speak Cornish. "
That is a beautiful language too xx
An ex of mine was Scottish, spoke Gaelic, not many of those either. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"It's a shame for any language to die out. A lot here still speak Cornish.
That is a beautiful language too xx
An ex of mine was Scottish, spoke Gaelic, not many of those either."
My cousins in Ireland still speak it x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's a shame for any language to die out. A lot here still speak Cornish.
That is a beautiful language too xx
An ex of mine was Scottish, spoke Gaelic, not many of those either.
My cousins in Ireland still speak it x"
So good to hear these beautiful languages are still being heard xx |
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I have relatives who live in North Wales. The first words they spoke were Welsh. They speak Welsh all the time in the pub and stuff. Everyone does round there. It is a completely living language. It doesn't cost the taxpayer a penny when they speak it or while they are learning to speak as babies. No money changes hands. So the OP is obviously mistaken.
Maybe they don't speak Welsh down South in Cardiff. Or in London or something. But they barely speak English down there. Eastenders should have subtitles. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm fluent in Scottish Gaelic. I'm not a Scot but grew up on Skye so obviously became a Gaelic speaker.
English might be the most spoken in these Isles but there has to be a place for all languages related to all of Britain.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have relatives who live in North Wales. The first words they spoke were Welsh. They speak Welsh all the time in the pub and stuff. Everyone does round there. It is a completely living language. It doesn't cost the taxpayer a penny when they speak it or while they are learning to speak as babies. No money changes hands. So the OP is obviously mistaken.
Maybe they don't speak Welsh down South in Cardiff. Or in London or something. But they barely speak English down there. Eastenders should have subtitles."
I think he means it being taught in Schools. The model of education in Wales is to have a Welsh stream, where lessons are taught in Welsh, and English stream, who are taught Welsh.
The issue is they are debating stopping teaching Welsh in the English stream.
And you're right, there are more Welsh speakers in North Wales than South, I believe it's rarely spoken in the South.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have relatives who live in North Wales. The first words they spoke were Welsh. They speak Welsh all the time in the pub and stuff. Everyone does round there. It is a completely living language. It doesn't cost the taxpayer a penny when they speak it or while they are learning to speak as babies. No money changes hands. So the OP is obviously mistaken.
Maybe they don't speak Welsh down South in Cardiff. Or in London or something. But they barely speak English down there. Eastenders should have subtitles.
I think he means it being taught in Schools. The model of education in Wales is to have a Welsh stream, where lessons are taught in Welsh, and English stream, who are taught Welsh.
The issue is they are debating stopping teaching Welsh in the English stream.
And you're right, there are more Welsh speakers in North Wales than South, I believe it's rarely spoken in the South.
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I grew up in South Wales, it wasn't compulsory to learn Welsh when I was at school and I had no need to speak or understand it whilst I lived there as it was rarely used. I moved to North Wales and felt embarrassed that I couldn't speak my own country's language  over the years ive picked it up slightly, but nowhere near able to speak it fluently. My kid's can tho, but they've been taught it since reception. It's such a beautiful language, and listening to songs in Welsh, especially a choir is just amazing x |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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"I’ve just got a house in wales and I’ve decided to learn Welsh... it’s a cool, archaic, language like nothing else. I think it’s beautiful
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That’s great news you’re learning.
I’ve been told so many times that Welsh is a “dead” language. It’s a pernicious load of nonsense. In parts of Wales it’s always been the language of the community (I’m not a good speaker of it all).
There’s a lot of politics and difficult history involved, but it’s an official language of the UK and it’s utterly beautiful when spoken well.
Sadly, there’s a noticeable rise in vitriol towards the language on social media from far right organisations at the moment. It seems only certain facets of Britishness are worthy of celebration.
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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Welsh Schools are doing very well in our area - new ones being built etc.
My children are taught Welsh in Primary School, which is more than i got when I was in School, as it was an “opt-in” language in Comprehensive only.
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"So in the news it’s suggested that people are or were bidding or campaigning to scrap the Welsh language. .
Who’s welsh in here and can speak this foraign tongue? Does this really cost tax payers that much money to make them speak English only.
Can we expect the future to study welsh instead of Latin in 100s of years to impress people?
Trafodwtch ... *Discuss. "
Got a link to this news please? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Welsh is the one of oldest continuous spoken languages in Europe. If I met a pre Roman celt we would be able to have a jolly good natter .
If you go back one hundred years they tried to stamp out the Welsh language , Google the Welsh Not.
Where I live it's a living language spoken regularly . Last week we had a Welsh music week , some fantastic new bands and artists , You Tube 9Bach amazing .
The Welsh assembly have an ambitious target to help 1 million extra people learn Welsh.
It's our language, our heritage and our future.
It's the language of poetry and song . It even has regional differences .
yr iaith Gymraeg yw ein dyfodol a'n gorffennol  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So in the news it’s suggested that people are or were bidding or campaigning to scrap the Welsh language. .
Who’s welsh in here and can speak this foraign tongue? Does this really cost tax payers that much money to make them speak English only.
Can we expect the future to study welsh instead of Latin in 100s of years to impress people?
Trafodwtch ... *Discuss.
Got a link to this news please?"
Yes. |
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I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages! |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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"Those above (or in fab) that are living in wales, do you speak English or welsh mostly?
I’m genuinely interested.
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I speak English. Learning Welsh wasn’t an option until Comprehensive (along with German, French or Spanish) and it was too late by then, i found it quite difficult to pick up.
I wouldn’t have the time nor patience to learn it now, sadly.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Those above (or in fab) that are living in wales, do you speak English or welsh mostly?
I’m genuinely interested.
I speak English. Learning Welsh wasn’t an option until Comprehensive (along with German, French or Spanish) and it was too late by then, i found it quite difficult to pick up.
I wouldn’t have the time nor patience to learn it now, sadly.
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This is where I shake my head, why would you not be taught your home language. It’s easy for me, English.
Welsh have their home language yet they campaigning to stop it being taught is baffling.
I’m not passionate about this type of thing, but I know if I was a Welshman , (and I’d be a handsome mountain of a man like hHarry Secombe) I’d be furious. |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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"Those above (or in fab) that are living in wales, do you speak English or welsh mostly?
I’m genuinely interested.
I speak English. Learning Welsh wasn’t an option until Comprehensive (along with German, French or Spanish) and it was too late by then, i found it quite difficult to pick up.
I wouldn’t have the time nor patience to learn it now, sadly.
This is where I shake my head, why would you not be taught your home language. It’s easy for me, English.
Welsh have their home language yet they campaigning to stop it being taught is baffling.
I’m not passionate about this type of thing, but I know if I was a Welshman , (and I’d be a handsome mountain of a man like hHarry Secombe) I’d be furious. "
My mother’s side of the family are/we’re all Welsh speakers. However m, I grew up in a very un-Welsh part of Wales. I didn’t have one lesson of Welsh in school.
My parents didnt push it - you have to remember that even when I was a kid, the lingering effect of policies from many decades ago were there. There was a huge thing about whether it was a backward step to learn Welsh.
My gran remembered the times soon after the Welsh Not and getting into trouble for speaking Welsh in school.
You’d be amazed how much anti-Welsh language feeling there is within Wales, particularly where I’m from and the discriminatory policies (such as the Welsh Not) where partly encouraged by Welsh people with influence.
We’re still seeing the ripples of all this today.
Ironically - Welsh language education is desirable these days. Cardiff is full of professionals from England, Europe etc fighting to get their kids into Welsh language schools!
Strip away the politics and you have a magical, beautiful language.
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By (user no longer on site)
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English mostly as where I live the demographic is mostly English speakers and people who have moved here from across the boarder . All are welcome in Wales
With some mates it's Welsh .
I always slip some Welsh in to conversations .
When I go further west to visit family it's Welsh |
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"English mostly as where I live the demographic is mostly English speakers and people who have moved here from across the boarder . All are welcome in Wales
With some mates it's Welsh .
I always slip some Welsh in to conversations .
When I go further west to visit family it's Welsh "
I lived in Barmouth for a while. ..all friendly with English when i was there.. lovely part of Britain |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So in the news it’s suggested that people are or were bidding or campaigning to scrap the Welsh language. .
Who’s welsh in here and can speak this foraign tongue? Does this really cost tax payers that much money to make them speak English only.
Can we expect the future to study welsh instead of Latin in 100s of years to impress people?
Trafodwtch ... *Discuss. "
Bore da,
That’s not right, Welsh should be spoken, it’s a living language. Wales has a distinct cultural heritage and is a proud nation in this United Kingdom.
I’d fight for the right to keep it!
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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"English mostly as where I live the demographic is mostly English speakers and people who have moved here from across the boarder . All are welcome in Wales
With some mates it's Welsh .
I always slip some Welsh in to conversations .
When I go further west to visit family it's Welsh "
Yeah - we should welcome everyone who is a decent person,who respects the culture of the area and adds to the community.
There are people from all round the world learning Welsh and that’s brilliant. I know Americans, Germans and English who are fluent.
9Bach are excellent btw! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"English mostly as where I live the demographic is mostly English speakers and people who have moved here from across the boarder . All are welcome in Wales
With some mates it's Welsh .
I always slip some Welsh in to conversations .
When I go further west to visit family it's Welsh
Yeah - we should welcome everyone who is a decent person,who respects the culture of the area and adds to the community.
There are people from all round the world learning Welsh and that’s brilliant. I know Americans, Germans and English who are fluent.
9Bach are excellent btw!"
I'm not a Welsh nationalist , I believe like you people should be free to come to Wales and enjoy our beautiful heritage and culture .
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By *ost SockMan
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"English mostly as where I live the demographic is mostly English speakers and people who have moved here from across the boarder . All are welcome in Wales
With some mates it's Welsh .
I always slip some Welsh in to conversations .
When I go further west to visit family it's Welsh
I lived in Barmouth for a while. ..all friendly with English when i was there.. lovely part of Britain "
The vast majority are. You get a few t**ts, but every place in the UK has them.
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By *ost SockMan
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"English mostly as where I live the demographic is mostly English speakers and people who have moved here from across the boarder . All are welcome in Wales
With some mates it's Welsh .
I always slip some Welsh in to conversations .
When I go further west to visit family it's Welsh
Yeah - we should welcome everyone who is a decent person,who respects the culture of the area and adds to the community.
There are people from all round the world learning Welsh and that’s brilliant. I know Americans, Germans and English who are fluent.
9Bach are excellent btw!
I'm not a Welsh nationalist , I believe like you people should be free to come to Wales and enjoy our beautiful heritage and culture .
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I think you can be a “nationalist” and still be welcoming to people. If you look at what the SNP and PC are saying these days, they are very much stressing that people should come, bring skills and positive attitudes and make this wonderful place their home.
I have to say I think some don’t come with that attitude and I’ve had plenty of conversations with them. That’s life though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Many languages are coming to an end this century .There are 2000 languages on earth which have less than 1000 speakers.Cornish being one
Cornish could do with some investment . |
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Welsh is almost like 3 languages too, north south and mid. Often they can't understand each other!
I live in the middle but am English, I hear it spoken by the older generation all the time and a lot by local families to their children and it's taught in the schools, defo not a dying language here but with more and more English people moving here and a lot not learning it (myself included) then I can see how it will become heard less.
Round here some are speaking more 'wenglish' which is diluting their own language. |
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Why are people meddling, having heratige and a identity is great,
Speaking Welsh, is a testament to your past,
In Cornwall there is a resurrection of our language which is similar to Welsh
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By *ost SockMan
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"Welsh is almost like 3 languages too, north south and mid. Often they can't understand each other!
I live in the middle but am English, I hear it spoken by the older generation all the time and a lot by local families to their children and it's taught in the schools, defo not a dying language here but with more and more English people moving here and a lot not learning it (myself included) then I can see how it will become heard less.
Round here some are speaking more 'wenglish' which is diluting their own language. "
Yeah, that’s an issue. All you can do is be welcoming and try to get people to see how knowing the culture of Wales and even a little of the language will enhance their time here.
The population of Wales is 22% English now. That’s not going to change, so it’s important to invest in these people.
You will find some who have no interest of course - I’ve met a few! The vast majority are nice people though.
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By *ost SockMan
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"I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages! "
There’s some great online resources out there. I’ve been doing something that takes a minute a day and it’s transformed my vocabulary.
Happy to share. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why are people meddling, having heratige and a identity is great,
Speaking Welsh, is a testament to your past,
In Cornwall there is a resurrection of our language which is similar to Welsh
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Kind of my thoughts. As I said above, I’m getting wound up I’ver something that’s not really personal to me, but it’s the meddling of oddbods that annoy me.
Twitter was active with the Britain first brigade rallying this more than ever making it bigger than it should have been.
But it did make me wonder why wales have to opt in. I can’t see France or Spain opting in to their countries own language. |
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Not many welsh speakers in Wrexham, or a small percentage anyway. Ny wife and two kids both speak Welsh. I know a little bit and can pick up what they’re talking about in conversation. Could never join in though. Wish I’d paid attention in class. Can’t be bothered.to learn it now though.
It’d be a shame to see it go. I agree on the earlier post saying there are different languages in different parts of Wales. Which is kinda silly. Probably why it’s gonna die out eventually. |
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By *ost SockMan
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"Why are people meddling, having heratige and a identity is great,
Speaking Welsh, is a testament to your past,
In Cornwall there is a resurrection of our language which is similar to Welsh
Kind of my thoughts. As I said above, I’m getting wound up I’ver something that’s not really personal to me, but it’s the meddling of oddbods that annoy me.
Twitter was active with the Britain first brigade rallying this more than ever making it bigger than it should have been.
But it did make me wonder why wales have to opt in. I can’t see France or Spain opting in to their countries own language. "
I’ve see a noticeable upsurge in social media attacks from the far right in recent times.
They have a very narrow view of what constitutes “Britishness”. You’d have thought they’d be supportive of the oldest language spoke on the isles they profess to love so much.
Personally. I think it’ll get a lot worse when they don’t have the EU to own about any more.
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"I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages!
There’s some great online resources out there. I’ve been doing something that takes a minute a day and it’s transformed my vocabulary.
Happy to share."
I'd love to know what you use please.
Where we live is mainly Welsh speakers but when I'm around they will translate and also get me to copy what they are saying or switch to English. They are so welcoming here.
If your trying to learn. They appreciate it.
There has been alot in the media saying the English are moaning that people speak Welsh here 
But when the tourists come in generally they are fine and love to listen to the language. |
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"I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages!
There’s some great online resources out there. I’ve been doing something that takes a minute a day and it’s transformed my vocabulary.
Happy to share.
I'd love to know what you use please.
Where we live is mainly Welsh speakers but when I'm around they will translate and also get me to copy what they are saying or switch to English. They are so welcoming here.
If your trying to learn. They appreciate it.
There has been alot in the media saying the English are moaning that people speak Welsh here
But when the tourists come in generally they are fine and love to listen to the language."
Gotta admit when I worked at Butlin’s Starcoast World In Pwllheli, if the locals were talking english, if they cottoned on that we weren’t welsh speakers, they’d change to Welsh. That’s my experience anyway. |
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By *ost SockMan
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"I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages!
There’s some great online resources out there. I’ve been doing something that takes a minute a day and it’s transformed my vocabulary.
Happy to share.
I'd love to know what you use please.
Where we live is mainly Welsh speakers but when I'm around they will translate and also get me to copy what they are saying or switch to English. They are so welcoming here.
If your trying to learn. They appreciate it.
There has been alot in the media saying the English are moaning that people speak Welsh here
But when the tourists come in generally they are fine and love to listen to the language.
Gotta admit when I worked at Butlin’s Starcoast World In Pwllheli, if the locals were talking english, if they cottoned on that we weren’t welsh speakers, they’d change to Welsh. That’s my experience anyway. "
I’m happy to believe that it happened to you, and there is the odd t**t about (like everywhere else - we’ve all been into pubs etc yay have been welcoming).
People switch from Welsh to English all the time in conversations though. It’s what people do.
For every person saying this has happened, you will find English people etc saying they’ve lived here years and never experienced it. Many say how people immediately switch from their native tongue to accommodate them.
I’m sorry - I don’t mean to sound grumpy, it’s just I get told this regularly.
I actually keep a record of how many times a year I get told the “walked in a pub and they all started speaking Welsh” thing. I’ve got told it three times a year at least for the last ten years (sometimes by Welsh people)
Have I really met 30 separate people this has happened to in that time. If 1,000 other Welsh people have been told the same as me, that’s 3,000 instances of people switching to Welsh out of some desire to exclude people.
Has it happened occasionally - I’m sure it has, but it’s largely urban myth.
People are speaking their native language in their own country.
If you go online, you will find many, many non-Welsh people living in Wales who say this is largely nonsense.
Sorry to rant - I’m a bit sick of hearing it. I do accept you had that experience
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"I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages!
There’s some great online resources out there. I’ve been doing something that takes a minute a day and it’s transformed my vocabulary.
Happy to share.
I'd love to know what you use please.
Where we live is mainly Welsh speakers but when I'm around they will translate and also get me to copy what they are saying or switch to English. They are so welcoming here.
If your trying to learn. They appreciate it.
There has been alot in the media saying the English are moaning that people speak Welsh here
But when the tourists come in generally they are fine and love to listen to the language.
Gotta admit when I worked at Butlin’s Starcoast World In Pwllheli, if the locals were talking english, if they cottoned on that we weren’t welsh speakers, they’d change to Welsh. That’s my experience anyway.
I’m happy to believe that it happened to you, and there is the odd t**t about (like everywhere else - we’ve all been into pubs etc yay have been welcoming).
People switch from Welsh to English all the time in conversations though. It’s what people do.
For every person saying this has happened, you will find English people etc saying they’ve lived here years and never experienced it. Many say how people immediately switch from their native tongue to accommodate them.
I’m sorry - I don’t mean to sound grumpy, it’s just I get told this regularly.
I actually keep a record of how many times a year I get told the “walked in a pub and they all started speaking Welsh” thing. I’ve got told it three times a year at least for the last ten years (sometimes by Welsh people)
Have I really met 30 separate people this has happened to in that time. If 1,000 other Welsh people have been told the same as me, that’s 3,000 instances of people switching to Welsh out of some desire to exclude people.
Has it happened occasionally - I’m sure it has, but it’s largely urban myth.
People are speaking their native language in their own country.
If you go online, you will find many, many non-Welsh people living in Wales who say this is largely nonsense.
Sorry to rant - I’m a bit sick of hearing it. I do accept you had that experience
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To be honest it could as well as been as much a revolt against Butlins staff as it could have been ‘anti-english’ to be honest. Probably more. We didn’t exactly have the best reputation down there. |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
"I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages!
There’s some great online resources out there. I’ve been doing something that takes a minute a day and it’s transformed my vocabulary.
Happy to share.
I'd love to know what you use please.
Where we live is mainly Welsh speakers but when I'm around they will translate and also get me to copy what they are saying or switch to English. They are so welcoming here.
If your trying to learn. They appreciate it.
There has been alot in the media saying the English are moaning that people speak Welsh here
But when the tourists come in generally they are fine and love to listen to the language.
Gotta admit when I worked at Butlin’s Starcoast World In Pwllheli, if the locals were talking english, if they cottoned on that we weren’t welsh speakers, they’d change to Welsh. That’s my experience anyway.
I’m happy to believe that it happened to you, and there is the odd t**t about (like everywhere else - we’ve all been into pubs etc yay have been welcoming).
People switch from Welsh to English all the time in conversations though. It’s what people do.
For every person saying this has happened, you will find English people etc saying they’ve lived here years and never experienced it. Many say how people immediately switch from their native tongue to accommodate them.
I’m sorry - I don’t mean to sound grumpy, it’s just I get told this regularly.
I actually keep a record of how many times a year I get told the “walked in a pub and they all started speaking Welsh” thing. I’ve got told it three times a year at least for the last ten years (sometimes by Welsh people)
Have I really met 30 separate people this has happened to in that time. If 1,000 other Welsh people have been told the same as me, that’s 3,000 instances of people switching to Welsh out of some desire to exclude people.
Has it happened occasionally - I’m sure it has, but it’s largely urban myth.
People are speaking their native language in their own country.
If you go online, you will find many, many non-Welsh people living in Wales who say this is largely nonsense.
Sorry to rant - I’m a bit sick of hearing it. I do accept you had that experience
To be honest it could as well as been as much a revolt against Butlins staff as it could have been ‘anti-english’ to be honest. Probably more. We didn’t exactly have the best reputation down there. "
It’s probably people just being territorial and parochial. It’s just language gives it an extra dimension/weapon.
Please don’t think I don’t believe you didn’t have a bad experience. I’m sure it does happen.
It’s just if to talk to most Welsh folk, they just hear the story so much. You can actually sense when they’re going to say it before they say it! |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
"I wasn't taught Welsh unfortunately as they took it out the curriculum in my area just before I started school, typical it got put back in just after I left. I hate that I can't speak at least some. I picked up bits when I worked in a nursery and from my niece's. I love listening to them speak it.
I think all home nation languages should be taught in school, even if it's just some basic words if it's out the area it's not spoke. We learn our history why not our languages!
There’s some great online resources out there. I’ve been doing something that takes a minute a day and it’s transformed my vocabulary.
Happy to share.
I'd love to know what you use please.
Where we live is mainly Welsh speakers but when I'm around they will translate and also get me to copy what they are saying or switch to English. They are so welcoming here.
If your trying to learn. They appreciate it.
There has been alot in the media saying the English are moaning that people speak Welsh here
But when the tourists come in generally they are fine and love to listen to the language."
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