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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Kerry Katona has said she feels the public have shown much more forgiveness to Ant McPartlin than her because he's a man.
She's had issues with mental illness and substance abuse. Her career took a hit and never really recovered.
Ant was found guilty of drink driving. He and Dec recently won a joint NTA award even though Ant hasn't been on screen for a year.
Are men forgiven much easier but women given a harder ride?
Another example, when men run off and leave their kids no-one bats an eyelid. When a mum leaves there's uproar. Why the difference? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've not noticed it. Perhaps Kerry Katona's celebrity personality is far less likable than Ant's? I think so.
I think they're both dickheads if I'm brutally honest. Don't have much sympathy for either of them. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've not noticed it. Perhaps Kerry Katona's celebrity personality is far less likable than Ant's? I think so.
I think they're both dickheads if I'm brutally honest. Don't have much sympathy for either of them. "
I did think about using Katy Price as an example of a fallen female celebrity but thought better of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ant beloved t.v. presenter many of us grew up with as a children's host before he aged with us.
Kerry part of a short lived paint by numbers band and the iceland adverts.
Sure its not jusy that shes kinda insufferable but he's been in most of his viewers lives for a couple of decades |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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I think it is timing. At the moment Mental Health is used as a " reason " for everything. At the time of her troubles it wasn't so prevalent. She has had bi polar for years, there has been a shift of how people see Mental Health now.
Ant had a drink and prescription drug problem. At the time of his arrest many said " there there poor Ant" I can't imagine why they would say that as if it was a man down your road smashing into cars while d*unk they would be saying what a plonker ( as I thought about him )
Maybe it is a sign of the times as she wouldn't get treated that way now, or people seem to like him more as a person, who knows
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By (user no longer on site)
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Definitely. Women are judged much more harshly and mud sticks.
There's still a bit of "bad boy" image around celebrities where it's kind of expected and just met with rolling eyes whilst women are expected to remain composed and set a good example. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think it is timing. At the moment Mental Health is used as a " reason " for everything. At the time of her troubles it wasn't so prevalent. She has had bi polar for years, there has been a shift of how people see Mental Health now.
Ant had a drink and prescription drug problem. At the time of his arrest many said " there there poor Ant" I can't imagine why they would say that as if it was a man down your road smashing into cars while d*unk they would be saying what a plonker ( as I thought about him )
Maybe it is a sign of the times as she wouldn't get treated that way now, or people seem to like him more as a person, who knows
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Good point about her bipolar, I'd forgotten about that. I think I remember her being slated for it at the time she 'came out' as it was still a mostly unknown kind of thing.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ant beloved t.v. presenter many of us grew up with as a children's host before he aged with us.
Kerry part of a short lived paint by numbers band and the iceland adverts.
Sure its not jusy that shes kinda insufferable but he's been in most of his viewers lives for a couple of decades"
I'm wondering if she's disliked because she's a woman with issues or because she's a knob.
Johnny Depp hasn't really resurfaced after his issues. |
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"Ant beloved t.v. presenter many of us grew up with as a children's host before he aged with us.
Kerry part of a short lived paint by numbers band and the iceland adverts.
Sure its not jusy that shes kinda insufferable but he's been in most of his viewers lives for a couple of decades
I'm wondering if she's disliked because she's a woman with issues or because she's a knob.
Johnny Depp hasn't really resurfaced after his issues."
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time"
And many in that age group, have had successful careers, built their own businesses from zero, while raising children & running a home single handedly! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time
And many in that age group, have had successful careers, built their own businesses from zero, while raising children & running a home single handedly! "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time
And many in that age group, have had successful careers, built their own businesses from zero, while raising children & running a home single handedly! "
Sure if by many you mean "way less than average". |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Are men forgiven much easier but women given a harder ride?
Another example, when men run off and leave their kids no-one bats an eyelid. When a mum leaves there's uproar. Why the difference?"
Going with your second example and my own experience;
A woman who walks away from her child, especially a very young one, can find herself verbally and even physically attacked for doing so.
Even today, 25 years on, I still hear people comment “they can’t understand how a woman can leave her 16 month old child”.
A man wouldn’t have had anything like this kind of a reaction and certainly not after so many years. |
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time
And many in that age group, have had successful careers, built their own businesses from zero, while raising children & running a home single handedly!
Sure if by many you mean "way less than average"."
We obviously mix in very different circles then.
I'm basing my comment on my own experiences, and people I actually know.
I know very few women who fall into the catorgary you refer too.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time"
Those women are usually housewives and mothers.
It’s easier to work a 60 hour week in my job than do my part time hours at work but then have the school run, the cleaning, the running my kid to after school classes and clubs, the nagging, the cooking. When you just work when your shift is done and you get home you’re done. When you’re a parent you can’t even have a shit without some small person nagging you for something. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time
Those women are usually housewives and mothers.
It’s easier to work a 60 hour week in my job than do my part time hours at work but then have the school run, the cleaning, the running my kid to after school classes and clubs, the nagging, the cooking. When you just work when your shift is done and you get home you’re done. When you’re a parent you can’t even have a shit without some small person nagging you for something. "
I used to hear so many mums complaining how hard it was being a housewife or part time with kids as we stood outside the junior school gates.
I worked. Started my own business and single handedly brought two daughters up. I didn’t get a penny from either of my ex’s and they didn’t even have my girls for any weekends or holidays. I had no family nearby either.
It was an awesome time and the three of us loved it. I cooked from scratch. Never went out asI had no one to sit for me. My house was clean. My kids well presented. It’s not as hard as people like to claim it is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time"
Tbf playing devil's advocate, then they would also have to do all the housework, organising etc. A lot of the women who work would love to have a full-time live in bloke who while he didn't work would be responsible for everything in the home so they didn't have to lift a finger in that regard?
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Men are allowed to do whatever they want and women have to be the responsible ones.
Look at r*pe and how many are willing to blame the victims or tell the victims they shouldn't have/should have so they wouldn't be r*ped. Instead of blaming the r*pist or instead of not tolerating r*pe.
We've just got a backward society that thinks people shouldn't 'become victims' instead of laying blame where it should really lie. And this is so that abusers can continue abusing others because shame is a really good weapon for shutting decent people up. |
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By *abs..Woman
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time
And many in that age group, have had successful careers, built their own businesses from zero, while raising children & running a home single handedly!
Sure if by many you mean "way less than average"."
Full time? In a school for instance pretty much everyone, apart from teachers, are part time. They still work 35 hours a week though.
I’m not sure that not working means you have an easier life either. There are many reasons why folk don’t work. |
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By *abs..Woman
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"Women do seem to have a much easier life though i mean in ages 25-60 only 35% of women work full time.
A lot of men would love to be supported by a partner to either be unemployed or only have to do part time
And many in that age group, have had successful careers, built their own businesses from zero, while raising children & running a home single handedly!
Sure if by many you mean "way less than average".
We obviously mix in very different circles then.
I'm basing my comment on my own experiences, and people I actually know.
I know very few women who fall into the catorgary you refer too.
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Same here. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On a different slant but the same topic, will Liam Neeson bounce back ? "
I hope so. The papers have put a stupid slant on it for the masses though. Saw the headlines today. Disappointing but not surprised. |
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"Kerry Katona has said she feels the public have shown much more forgiveness to Ant McPartlin than her because he's a man.
She's had issues with mental illness and substance abuse. Her career took a hit and never really recovered.
Ant was found guilty of drink driving. He and Dec recently won a joint NTA award even though Ant hasn't been on screen for a year.
Are men forgiven much easier but women given a harder ride?
Another example, when men run off and leave their kids no-one bats an eyelid. When a mum leaves there's uproar. Why the difference?"
Chalk and cheese though, he was at least talented. |
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