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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
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By *imiUK OP Man
over a year ago
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
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And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society. |
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society."
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah!  |
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah! "
Well you wouldn't say that as it doesn't suit your agenda.
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah!
Well you wouldn't say that as it doesn't suit your agenda.
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What exactly doesn’t suit my agenda?
And what agenda is that?
Enlighten me. |
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah!
Well you wouldn't say that as it doesn't suit your agenda.
What exactly doesn’t suit my agenda?
And what agenda is that?
Enlighten me. "
I don't need to tell you as you already know its your agenda. It may make you feel uncomfortable people pointing out you have one and its clear to see but that's your problem not mine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah!
Well you wouldn't say that as it doesn't suit your agenda.
What exactly doesn’t suit my agenda?
And what agenda is that?
Enlighten me.
I don't need to tell you as you already know its your agenda. It may make you feel uncomfortable people pointing out you have one and its clear to see but that's your problem not mine."
The only person pointing out any “agenda” is you.
I have no agenda, but I do have an opinion, so since you know me so well, do tell me what agenda it is I have? Or are you going to scurry away and deflect again? |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah!
Well you wouldn't say that as it doesn't suit your agenda.
What exactly doesn’t suit my agenda?
And what agenda is that?
Enlighten me.
I don't need to tell you as you already know its your agenda. It may make you feel uncomfortable people pointing out you have one and its clear to see but that's your problem not mine.
The only person pointing out any “agenda” is you.
I have no agenda, but I do have an opinion, so since you know me so well, do tell me what agenda it is I have? Or are you going to scurry away and deflect again? "
looking forward to her reply! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah!
Well you wouldn't say that as it doesn't suit your agenda.
What exactly doesn’t suit my agenda?
And what agenda is that?
Enlighten me.
I don't need to tell you as you already know its your agenda. It may make you feel uncomfortable people pointing out you have one and its clear to see but that's your problem not mine.
The only person pointing out any “agenda” is you.
I have no agenda, but I do have an opinion, so since you know me so well, do tell me what agenda it is I have? Or are you going to scurry away and deflect again?
looking forward to her reply! "
Me too! Very much so! |
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"Oh no , here we go again 
My sentiments exactly ... flak jacket still on Dont worry . I'll start up a thread about Flapjacks or some shit "
I prefer my flapjacks without shit ... am I being shitist? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think John Barnes is spot on and fair play to Liam to admit that, but there are too many idiots in the world who are going to hear a snippet of the interview and/or take it out of context.
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By *imiUK OP Man
over a year ago
Hereford |
"I think John Barnes is spot on and fair play to Liam to admit that, but there are too many idiots in the world who are going to hear a snippet of the interview and/or take it out of context.
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I certainly feel like we are living in a context free world these days. |
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah!
Well you wouldn't say that as it doesn't suit your agenda.
What exactly doesn’t suit my agenda?
And what agenda is that?
Enlighten me.
I don't need to tell you as you already know its your agenda. It may make you feel uncomfortable people pointing out you have one and its clear to see but that's your problem not mine.
The only person pointing out any “agenda” is you.
I have no agenda, but I do have an opinion, so since you know me so well, do tell me what agenda it is I have? Or are you going to scurry away and deflect again? "
I don't have to scurry and your agenda bores the pants off me its clear you don't like me pointing out you have one though. So I will |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society."
Yeah. Completely agree with this about the honesty thing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A medal .. for drawing out all the right wing loons from under their rocks...Fair enough..  "
They shouldn’t be under their rocks though, that’s the point here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think John Barnes is spot on and fair play to Liam to admit that, but there are too many idiots in the world who are going to hear a snippet of the interview and/or take it out of context.
I certainly feel like we are living in a context free world these days."
Same. People will argue about anything without the whole picture or all facts taken into consideration. Boredom and a lack of intelligence, probably, |
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agenda—noun, formally a plural of agendum, but usually used as a singular with plural a·gen·das or a·gen·da.
a list, plan, outline, or the like, of things to be done, matters to be acted or voted upon, etc.:
Or so the dictionary says .. |
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah! "
it would be pretty weird thing to get a medal for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society.
And again, I agree.
Deserving a medal though? Nah! it would be pretty weird thing to get a medal for."
What do you think the medal would be for though?
It would be for admitting there’s an ingrained problem in society and realising the problem
In himself, not a bad thing at all surely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So have we clarified the agenda of th lady.
Did Liam have an agenda to promote racial harmony is that what he's getting a medal for ...I though he was just being promoting his film then said something that made him look like a racist cunt..
You couldn't make this shit up.. |
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By *imiUK OP Man
over a year ago
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"So have we clarified the agenda of th lady.
Did Liam have an agenda to promote racial harmony is that what he's getting a medal for ...I though he was just being promoting his film then said something that made him look like a racist cunt..
You couldn't make this shit up.. "
The point is, that his racism is societal, he addressed it and regrets it.
It's important that people can discuss it, because that's the only way we move on.
Have you watched the interview? |
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By *imiUK OP Man
over a year ago
Hereford |
"If a black woman talks about a topic concerning racism.Do you assume it's agenda driven. If so ..
That racism right fucking there people... 
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I don't think it's racism to assume that black people have an interest in challenging racism. |
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I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a black woman talks about a topic concerning racism.Do you assume it's agenda driven. If so ..
That racism right fucking there people...
I don't think it's racism to assume that black people have an interest in challenging racism."
So saying it's agenda driven is ok the agenda being what???
Spit it out let's here this agenda. |
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"Shall we have a who can piss higher contest?
Always entertaining with women involved ... sorry ladies 
We can have flapjacks as snack of choice for the spectators Please dont piss on my flapjacks . I hate soggy ones "
That's clear pissism!!!!
Or even yellow to that matter |
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"Shall we have a who can piss higher contest?
Always entertaining with women involved ... sorry ladies
We can have flapjacks as snack of choice for the spectators Please dont piss on my flapjacks . I hate soggy ones "
Dare I suggest half chocolate dipped flapjacks. Thats my bloody agenda |
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"Shall we have a who can piss higher contest?
Always entertaining with women involved ... sorry ladies
We can have flapjacks as snack of choice for the spectators Please dont piss on my flapjacks . I hate soggy ones
That's clear pissism!!!!
Or even yellow to that matter "
Pissism  |
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By *imiUK OP Man
over a year ago
Hereford |
"If a black woman talks about a topic concerning racism.Do you assume it's agenda driven. If so ..
That racism right fucking there people...
I don't think it's racism to assume that black people have an interest in challenging racism.
So saying it's agenda driven is ok the agenda being what???
Spit it out let's here this agenda."
Fucked if I know, Bob. I'm not the one saying that some posters have an agenda, but refusing to explain what that agenda is.
My point was that assumption of agenda doesn't make someone a racist, it rather depends on what they assume the agenda to be... |
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By *imiUK OP Man
over a year ago
Hereford |
"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!  "
Does not liking white chocolate make you a racist? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!
Does not liking white chocolate make you a racist? "
Honky flapjacks? Save me some!! |
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"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!
Does not liking white chocolate make you a racist? "
probably |
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"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!
That should say if these flapjacks AREN’T white chocolate coated, I don’t want em!
Jeez, I am poor with the typing today! "
I have a variety of chocolate, dark, white and milky. None if that carob shite tho. I am a carobist |
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"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em! What do you have against the Milky Bar Kid ?? Poor lad "
Wasn't he ginger?? Now I am interested on views!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!
Does not liking white chocolate make you a racist? "
Oh ffs, hahaha!
It was auto correct, I’m sorry, I have nothing against white chocolate, I love white chocolate & friends who like white chocolate too. |
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By *imiUK OP Man
over a year ago
Hereford |
"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!
Does not liking white chocolate make you a racist?
Oh ffs, hahaha!
It was auto correct, I’m sorry, I have nothing against white chocolate, I love white chocolate & friends who like white chocolate too. "
But what about caramac?  |
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"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!
Does not liking white chocolate make you a racist?
Oh ffs, hahaha!
It was auto correct, I’m sorry, I have nothing against white chocolate, I love white chocolate & friends who like white chocolate too.
But what about caramac? "
Oh thats just evil!!! Makes my teeth shudder. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe nothing on here. Anyone can say they have received an abusive pm. But these flapjacks ......."
You’re right they can, however I’m likely to believe this person.
Also, it seems she has gone quiet all of a sudden after I mentioned it. Speaks volumes to me.
And I believe no one......unless they bring me more flap jacks. You do know someone going quiet may mean they are busy, working, having a life or making more flapjacks??
You’re entitled to believe no one!
However I wouldn’t put it past her, and totally believe she did send the abusive message they quoted.
Furthermore, if these flapjacks are white chocolate coated. I don’t want em!
Does not liking white chocolate make you a racist?
Oh ffs, hahaha!
It was auto correct, I’m sorry, I have nothing against white chocolate, I love white chocolate & friends who like white chocolate too.
But what about caramac? "
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"Glad to see you've all calmed down a bit . But now you've eaten all me fuckin Flapjacks so I'm pissed off
But they were lovely....so thank you. "
Glad you enjoyed them . Now is Marco dead yet ffs |
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"Glad to see you've all calmed down a bit . But now you've eaten all me fuckin Flapjacks so I'm pissed off
But they were lovely....so thank you. Glad you enjoyed them . Now is Marco dead yet ffs "
Lets just say it was electrifying He is a dead marco. Yay! Go Liam! |
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"Glad to see you've all calmed down a bit . But now you've eaten all me fuckin Flapjacks so I'm pissed off
But they were lovely....so thank you. Glad you enjoyed them . Now is Marco dead yet ffs
Lets just say it was electrifying He is a dead marco. Yay! Go Liam! "
Now the end is near .
" We ca...." Bang |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So have we clarified the agenda of th lady.
Did Liam have an agenda to promote racial harmony is that what he's getting a medal for ...I though he was just being promoting his film then said something that made him look like a racist cunt..
You couldn't make this shit up..
The point is, that his racism is societal, he addressed it and regrets it.
It's important that people can discuss it, because that's the only way we move on.
Have you watched the interview?"
I get what your saying jimi .Society needs to talk about it.Im not convinced they do .Most want to bury this thread in the long grass and get to the end as fast as possible.. they don't want to about it.
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The question is, would Neeson have similarly gone out with the intention to beat up an Italian, or a ginger-haired man, or a skinhead if one of those groups had assaulted his friend?
Sorry, haven't read all the threads. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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So did barnsy basically win over everyone with the Liam neeson comments... but lose them by calling winston Churchill a white supremacist and a mass murderer....
Barnsy seems to have gone “1 for 2” ...... |
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"The question is, would Neeson have similarly gone out with the intention to beat up an Italian, or a ginger-haired man, or a skinhead if one of those groups had assaulted his friend?
Sorry, haven't read all the threads."
Yeh but twatting a ginger is encouraged (before you all jump on me ....it's a joke and I'm a ginge so can be gingerist) |
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"So did barnsy basically win over everyone with the Liam neeson comments... but lose them by calling winston Churchill a white supremacist and a mass murderer....
Barnsy seems to have gone “1 for 2” ......"
Well its his opinion most of us are too young to remember Churchill. Me for one couldn't comment on Winston as I don't know the facts. I respect his opinion though the guy has been involved in aspects of racism and tackling it over recent years and he did actually see the whole interview before commenting. |
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"The question is, would Neeson have similarly gone out with the intention to beat up an Italian, or a ginger-haired man, or a skinhead if one of those groups had assaulted his friend?
Sorry, haven't read all the threads.
Yeh but twatting a ginger is encouraged (before you all jump on me ....it's a joke and I'm a ginge so can be gingerist) "
Oy!!! That's so fucking gingerist that it's offensive ... that's it ... I'm gonna carry a cosh in my pocket now ... woe betide any that cross me
Oh wait ... the lesson is that it was wrong to think that wasn't it??? |
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"The question is, would Neeson have similarly gone out with the intention to beat up an Italian, or a ginger-haired man, or a skinhead if one of those groups had assaulted his friend?
Sorry, haven't read all the threads."
This..
And had it been Will Smith saying it would some of the reactions have been similar.. |
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"So did barnsy basically win over everyone with the Liam neeson comments... but lose them by calling winston Churchill a white supremacist and a mass murderer....
Barnsy seems to have gone “1 for 2” ......"
Well ... to quote Churchill ...
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"So did barnsy basically win over everyone with the Liam neeson comments... but lose them by calling winston Churchill a white supremacist and a mass murderer....
Barnsy seems to have gone “1 for 2” ......
Well ... to quote Churchill ...
Oh yesss "
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"Context is everything"
I couldn't agree more on that it can change the whole dimensions of things and how it appears we often forget the press and media have a vested interest in things going a bomb. |
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"The question is, would Neeson have similarly gone out with the intention to beat up an Italian, or a ginger-haired man, or a skinhead if one of those groups had assaulted his friend?
Sorry, haven't read all the threads.
Yeh but twatting a ginger is encouraged (before you all jump on me ....it's a joke and I'm a ginge so can be gingerist) "
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Flapjacks are one thing but aren't ginger nuts harder |
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"The question is, would Neeson have similarly gone out with the intention to beat up an Italian, or a ginger-haired man, or a skinhead if one of those groups had assaulted his friend?
Sorry, haven't read all the threads.
This..
And had it been Will Smith saying it would some of the reactions have been similar.. "
Exactly. I haven't read a transcript of what he said so don't know if he is actually a racist or not?? I don't think every crime against a black man is racially motivated, though obviously his emotional over-reaction/intention to kill was mindblowing. |
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"The question is, would Neeson have similarly gone out with the intention to beat up an Italian, or a ginger-haired man, or a skinhead if one of those groups had assaulted his friend?
Sorry, haven't read all the threads.
This..
And had it been Will Smith saying it would some of the reactions have been similar..
Exactly. I haven't read a transcript of what he said so don't know if he is actually a racist or not?? I don't think every crime against a black man is racially motivated, though obviously his emotional over-reaction/intention to kill was mindblowing."
I get the initial anger thing, lashing out is not that uncommon although not the right thing to do and hardly supportive of a friend just having been through a horrendous ordeal..
But that he said it was on his mind for a week is very troubling.. |
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"Well I'm 30 mins into 'Taken' and hes just done his 'I don't know who you are....' speech. A flap jack would be grand tho. Oh hes not got to Marco from Tropiaja yet then ?? "
but were all Marco from tropiaja ?? |
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That sort of thing can happen with anyone to be honest, no matter what colour or religion.
I mean who wouldn't get angry and seek revenge on the ones they love. It happens all the time, like one time in america there was a story, a coloured bloke was shot dead because he was armed, next thing you know there's riots trying to hunt and kill white policeman. It's been happening since the dawn of man and will always happen. |
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Interesting point they both were in agreement on Winston Churchills white supremacy (he was a product of his age) So what were those British commandos doing standing up and fighting against White G.Is for black G.Is during WW2? There have always been people who can smell out bullshit and will stand against it in every generation.Dont let anyone decieve you wrong is wrong wherever and whoever does it.Was Liam Neeson looking to beat up a Blackman who had no involvement in the crime yes,so he was WRONG.There is no justification for praising him...sounds to me like he was behaving like a blinkered idiot.What a load of guff! Should he be hung out to dry for doing what he did NO...unless they find his DNA on some unsolved murder.So for me a non-issue.
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"That sort of thing can happen with anyone to be honest, no matter what colour or religion.
I mean who wouldn't get angry and seek revenge on the ones they love. It happens all the time, like one time in america there was a story, a coloured bloke was shot dead because he was armed, next thing you know there's riots trying to hunt and kill white policeman. It's been happening since the dawn of man and will always happen."
Seeking revenge for your loved ones by seeking out the perpetrator is normal. Revenge by attacking anyone who has the same hair colour or shoes or skin colour is ignorant.
It is not justifiable or understandable for black people to kill white police officers because another white officer murdered a black person. It’s not something that just happens. We don’t attack older white men because some older white men have abused children. It’s the normalisation of that behaviour that worries me.
It’s like being in school all over again: being ignorant is cool again |
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"If a black woman talks about a topic concerning racism.Do you assume it's agenda driven. If so ..
That racism right fucking there people...
I don't think it's racism to assume that black people have an interest in challenging racism.
So saying it's agenda driven is ok the agenda being what???
Spit it out let's here this agenda.
Fucked if I know, Bob. I'm not the one saying that some posters have an agenda, but refusing to explain what that agenda is.
My point was that assumption of agenda doesn't make someone a racist, it rather depends on what they assume the agenda to be..."
And therein lies the problem. People saying others have an agenda, but then prevaricates when asked what that agenda is. |
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
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Me too. |
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"Agree with Barnes. Neeson wasn't promoting racism, he was highlighting the way horrible views can get ingrained in almost anyone if they're not careful and self aware. "
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"Interesting point they both were in agreement on Winston Churchills white supremacy (he was a product of his age) So what were those British commandos doing standing up and fighting against White G.Is for black G.Is during WW2? There have always been people who can smell out bullshit and will stand against it in every generation.Dont let anyone decieve you wrong is wrong wherever and whoever does it.Was Liam Neeson looking to beat up a Blackman who had no involvement in the crime yes,so he was WRONG.There is no justification for praising him...sounds to me like he was behaving like a blinkered idiot.What a load of guff! Should he be hung out to dry for doing what he did NO...unless they find his DNA on some unsolved murder.So for me a non-issue.
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He admitted he had thoughts about it and didn’t actually do it. I think you’ll find there’s a lot of people who have thoughts they don’t act on, thankfully. It’s human-frigging-nature.
No one is praising him for wanting to beat anyone up. John Barnes and other people are praising his admission of guilt, feelings of disgust and honesty about how this is ingrained in society. You’ve missed the point entirely and this causes problems, when people don’t look at all the facts. |
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"He said this “this is what society has shown him, that black people do, Muslims do - this is what society has wrongly shown him, this is what the media have wrongly portrayed to him".
Which I absolutely agree with.
And what he also said that Neeson was right to admit it, and right to challenge his own prejudices, which led him to become "disgusted" with himself.
His point was that it was important to be honest, rather than hiding his feelings, it allows us to address subconscious racism within society."
Very much agree, I grew up with racismlite™ it was a background attitude that pervaded but none of my family ever overtly showed or expressed racism, where I lived was a very white part of Scotland at the time.
As I became older I learned to examine and change my prejudice and try to counter early influences. Hopefully I've been successful. I admire his honesty and think it would be better if more could do the same. |
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"Didn't Liam Neeson's latest movie get Premièred last night in USA??? Nothing like causing a bit of controversy just before opening night. "
The red carpet premiere was cancelled... |
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Sadly another example of how being open and honest of our failings is exploited my media.
Was he wrong? Yes. Dies he acknowledge that and is surprised by his own action and recognises the need to grow? Yes.
As far as I'm aware he isn't condoning any of his behaviour.
We've all behaved badly during life I'm sure and had innaporopriate thoughts? But most of us learn.
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" Sadly another example of how being open and honest of our failings is exploited my media.
Was he wrong? Yes. Dies he acknowledge that and is surprised by his own action and recognises the need to grow? Yes.
As far as I'm aware he isn't condoning any of his behaviour.
We've all behaved badly during life I'm sure and had innaporopriate thoughts? But most of us learn.
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"Didnt he say if it was an Irishman he would of said the same thing. Why is this blown up when it was said 40 yrs ago or what ever when we have clear as day racism from Azealia Banks"
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