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By *iamondsmiles. OP   Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

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By *illupMan  over a year ago

Stoke-on-Trent

Awful isnt it

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do"

I’m afraid it’s always been this way .

Tragic that we were granted free will and a greater level of intelligence and this is what some choose to do with it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do"
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Yep. Some right shity people around these days

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The people that do it are worthless.

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By *iamondsmiles. OP   Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

I’m afraid it’s always been this way .

Tragic that we were granted free will and a greater level of intelligence and this is what some choose to do with it "

has it always been this way. i dont remember it like this when i grew up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wonder if it’s always been this way but with the modern way of communicating and 24hr news available anywhere we now see and hear about all the crappy stuff more because it’s there to be seen now

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By *iamondsmiles. OP   Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do.

Yep. Some right shity people around these days "

but its beyond shitty what causes people to be so vile

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By *hadowcookieCouple  over a year ago

Portlaoise


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do"

But for every evil act, there's some Saint doing something good.. Think positive or we may as well climb into bed and never get up..

Oh, and give your loved ones an extra hug.. They're lucky to have someone that cares.. Xx

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By *iamondsmiles. OP   Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I wonder if it’s always been this way but with the modern way of communicating and 24hr news available anywhere we now see and hear about all the crappy stuff more because it’s there to be seen now"
well yes that could be the reason i dont remember it so bad as we didnt have access to hearing about it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

I’m afraid it’s always been this way .

Tragic that we were granted free will and a greater level of intelligence and this is what some choose to do with it "

Well free will is largely a myth. No living organism has true free will.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree OP! I don’t think people actually understand the implications of a stabbing. Literally snuffing out a life. It’s incomprehensible to me how little value or how few fucks some people give when stabbing with intent.

Trouble is the punishment isn’t severe enough. No deterrent but it does make me fear for our futures and our kids futures. I can’t begin to imagine what it’ll be like in 20 to 30 years time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The bad stuff always makes the news, the good stuff doesn't always.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"I wonder if it’s always been this way but with the modern way of communicating and 24hr news available anywhere we now see and hear about all the crappy stuff more because it’s there to be seen nowwell yes that could be the reason i dont remember it so bad as we didnt have access to hearing about it"

Exactly , we didn’t hear about it like we do now .

We also had way more coppers on the beat .

But it still went on .

Where I lived racial violence was the worst , but worldwide there was all manner of atrocities going on .

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By *iamondsmiles. OP   Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I wonder if it’s always been this way but with the modern way of communicating and 24hr news available anywhere we now see and hear about all the crappy stuff more because it’s there to be seen nowwell yes that could be the reason i dont remember it so bad as we didnt have access to hearing about it

Exactly , we didn’t hear about it like we do now .

We also had way more coppers on the beat .

But it still went on .

Where I lived racial violence was the worst , but worldwide there was all manner of atrocities going on ."

i live in a small affluient town ive never seen any of this stuff first hand

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A local murder here in the most desperatly sad kink related way and he only got 3 years for it as a manslaughter instead. He showed utter contempt and total lack of empathy for the woman, but has been barely punished for it

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By *iamondsmiles. OP   Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"A local murder here in the most desperatly sad kink related way and he only got 3 years for it as a manslaughter instead. He showed utter contempt and total lack of empathy for the woman, but has been barely punished for it "
the system has no value on someones life

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"I wonder if it’s always been this way but with the modern way of communicating and 24hr news available anywhere we now see and hear about all the crappy stuff more because it’s there to be seen now"

I agree. When I was young, news was filtered and controlled by journalists, and delivered once a day.

Now everyone is a journalist and camera operator. There is is no professional filtet or control, other than the choices each person makes on their news feed on social media.

I do not believe society is any better or worse. What’s changed is how we receive information - and misinformation.

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan  over a year ago

Seen in far off places

There's a certain faction within our society - the 'Innit Bruv' brigade - who view gang culture as a symbol of status and hierarchy.

It's a warped world we live in.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I disagree, statistics show things like knife crime are getting far worse - we've always been able to count corpses!!

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

It's worth more now than it used to be but even then it's not much.

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By *hubaysiWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

I think it’s also to do with there is no proper punishment system in place so people do what they want.

I wonder if capital punishment was brought back would people think twice before doing these evil acts? Yes I know that’s another debate but thought I would just throw it in there....

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do"

What about the two world wars and the current conflicts where lives are literally no more than bargaining chips?

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

I’m afraid it’s always been this way .

Tragic that we were granted free will and a greater level of intelligence and this is what some choose to do with it has it always been this way. i dont remember it like this when i grew up. "

No it hasn't. Things have got progressively worse. Blame the nanny state and bad parenting.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think it’s also to do with there is no proper punishment system in place so people do what they want.

I wonder if capital punishment was brought back would people think twice before doing these evil acts? Yes I know that’s another debate but thought I would just throw it in there....

"

I don't think the threat of CP would work with today's criminals - it's just too far removed from their awareness. I would rather see longer, harsher sentences followed by rehabilitation. Or banishment to Somalia for the worst offenders.

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By *iamondsmiles. OP   Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

What about the two world wars and the current conflicts where lives are literally no more than bargaining chips?"

i know i was just looking at it on an individual level

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan  over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"There's a certain faction within our society - the 'Innit Bruv' brigade - who view gang culture as a symbol of status and hierarchy.

It's a warped world we live in.

"

And yet we celebrate a particular genre a music (which is excrement BTW) that glamourises acts of gang violence, the handling of leathal weapons, and slapping one's bitch up!

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By *hrobbermanMan  over a year ago

Lanarkshire

The idea that there was a Golden Age when human life was valued and people were not cruel and heartless is a myth I'm afraid. Humans particularly the poor and vulnerable are used pieces of spent trash to many.

My Mum's parents died of TB in the 1930s (her dad had been gassed in the 1st World War and his lungs wrecked). It was a disease of the poor back in the 20s and 30s before the NHS. The only thing that saved the poor from disease & slum landlords was the building of Council Housing from the 1930s on and the NHS. Council Housing went with Thatcher and the NHS is being dismantled by the Tories. We're left with homelessness, slum landlords, rack rents and Grenfell.

As for the scum who'd pour petrol on a homeless vagrant? David Cameron (pig fucker), Clegg, Boris and the Bullingdon Boys Club would assault and insult the Poor, any working people serving them and burn £50 notes in front of a homeless person. It was your threshold for becoming a member of the Bullingdon Club. If THEY are the people who rule you then THAT is the Society they create... so what surprise other scum learn from the likes of Cameron, Clegg and Boris Johnson.

May they rot in Hell.

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By *hubaysiWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"The idea that there was a Golden Age when human life was valued and people were not cruel and heartless is a myth I'm afraid. Humans particularly the poor and vulnerable are used pieces of spent trash to many.

My Mum's parents died of TB in the 1930s (her dad had been gassed in the 1st World War and his lungs wrecked). It was a disease of the poor back in the 20s and 30s before the NHS. The only thing that saved the poor from disease & slum landlords was the building of Council Housing from the 1930s on and the NHS. Council Housing went with Thatcher and the NHS is being dismantled by the Tories. We're left with homelessness, slum landlords, rack rents and Grenfell.

As for the scum who'd pour petrol on a homeless vagrant? David Cameron (pig fucker), Clegg, Boris and the Bullingdon Boys Club would assault and insult the Poor, any working people serving them and burn £50 notes in front of a homeless person. It was your threshold for becoming a member of the Bullingdon Club. If THEY are the people who rule you then THAT is the Society they create... so what surprise other scum learn from the likes of Cameron, Clegg and Boris Johnson.

May they rot in Hell.

"

Let it out, don’t hold back dear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do"

Well its a lot less violent than the 80s

Or any point really.

Human life has aleays been worthless, after all its the only thing any idiot can make.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's a certain faction within our society - the 'Innit Bruv' brigade - who view gang culture as a symbol of status and hierarchy.

It's a warped world we live in.

And yet we celebrate a particular genre a music (which is excrement BTW) that glamourises acts of gang violence, the handling of leathal weapons, and slapping one's bitch up!"

Since when was the prodigy trap rap :p

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"The idea that there was a Golden Age when human life was valued and people were not cruel and heartless is a myth I'm afraid. Humans particularly the poor and vulnerable are used pieces of spent trash to many.

My Mum's parents died of TB in the 1930s (her dad had been gassed in the 1st World War and his lungs wrecked). It was a disease of the poor back in the 20s and 30s before the NHS. The only thing that saved the poor from disease & slum landlords was the building of Council Housing from the 1930s on and the NHS. Council Housing went with Thatcher and the NHS is being dismantled by the Tories. We're left with homelessness, slum landlords, rack rents and Grenfell.

As for the scum who'd pour petrol on a homeless vagrant? David Cameron (pig fucker), Clegg, Boris and the Bullingdon Boys Club would assault and insult the Poor, any working people serving them and burn £50 notes in front of a homeless person. It was your threshold for becoming a member of the Bullingdon Club. If THEY are the people who rule you then THAT is the Society they create... so what surprise other scum learn from the likes of Cameron, Clegg and Boris Johnson.

May they rot in Hell.

"

Ooh bullshit lol, that's pure class hatred, and just as bad as any hatred on the planet.

It will never get better while people hate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The idea that there was a Golden Age when human life was valued and people were not cruel and heartless is a myth I'm afraid. Humans particularly the poor and vulnerable are used pieces of spent trash to many.

My Mum's parents died of TB in the 1930s (her dad had been gassed in the 1st World War and his lungs wrecked). It was a disease of the poor back in the 20s and 30s before the NHS. The only thing that saved the poor from disease & slum landlords was the building of Council Housing from the 1930s on and the NHS. Council Housing went with Thatcher and the NHS is being dismantled by the Tories. We're left with homelessness, slum landlords, rack rents and Grenfell.

As for the scum who'd pour petrol on a homeless vagrant? David Cameron (pig fucker), Clegg, Boris and the Bullingdon Boys Club would assault and insult the Poor, any working people serving them and burn £50 notes in front of a homeless person. It was your threshold for becoming a member of the Bullingdon Club. If THEY are the people who rule you then THAT is the Society they create... so what surprise other scum learn from the likes of Cameron, Clegg and Boris Johnson.

May they rot in Hell.

Ooh bullshit lol, that's pure class hatred, and just as bad as any hatred on the planet.

It will never get better while people hate. "

Nothing a bi y of champagne socialism wont sort out im sure

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

What about the two world wars and the current conflicts where lives are literally no more than bargaining chips?i know i was just looking at it on an individual level"

On a cultural level I think that we need to see life as cheap to enable us to live in a world where Venezuela's political situation exists without going crazy.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"I wonder if it’s always been this way but with the modern way of communicating and 24hr news available anywhere we now see and hear about all the crappy stuff more because it’s there to be seen now"
I think there is a lot of truth in what your saying

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By *hrobbermanMan  over a year ago

Lanarkshire


"The idea that there was a Golden Age when human life was valued and people were not cruel and heartless is a myth I'm afraid. Humans particularly the poor and vulnerable are used pieces of spent trash to many.

My Mum's parents died of TB in the 1930s (her dad had been gassed in the 1st World War and his lungs wrecked). It was a disease of the poor back in the 20s and 30s before the NHS. The only thing that saved the poor from disease & slum landlords was the building of Council Housing from the 1930s on and the NHS. Council Housing went with Thatcher and the NHS is being dismantled by the Tories. We're left with homelessness, slum landlords, rack rents and Grenfell.

As for the scum who'd pour petrol on a homeless vagrant? David Cameron (pig fucker), Clegg, Boris and the Bullingdon Boys Club would assault and insult the Poor, any working people serving them and burn £50 notes in front of a homeless person. It was your threshold for becoming a member of the Bullingdon Club. If THEY are the people who rule you then THAT is the Society they create... so what surprise other scum learn from the likes of Cameron, Clegg and Boris Johnson.

May they rot in Hell.

Ooh bullshit lol, that's pure class hatred, and just as bad as any hatred on the planet.

It will never get better while people hate. "

The hatred comes from ONE Ideological direction. It is not the sick who are dismantling the NHS. It is not the homeless or poor who destroyed, sold off and dismantled the Council Housing stock in this country. It was the Tories who hated what it represented... a way out of slum landlords clutches.

If the Tories could put a cash collection gate on the way into hospitals they would... oh yeah they have. They charge you to park. Now there's a Golden Goose Contract.

I have no hatred for anyone. But when Boris and Clegg and Cameron burned £50 notes in front of poor people sleeping on the streets... I think those Bullingdon Boys were showing pure hatred. May they rot in the same Hell that they created for others.

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By *hatYorkLadMan  over a year ago

York

I live in a city where they used to mount people's heads on spikes on the city walls or hang them in gibbets so the public could watch them rot, as someone said above there has sadly never been a golden age where society didn't contain nasty people who enjoy carrying out violence on others. You just hear more about it now with 24 hour rolling news.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"The idea that there was a Golden Age when human life was valued and people were not cruel and heartless is a myth I'm afraid. Humans particularly the poor and vulnerable are used pieces of spent trash to many.

My Mum's parents died of TB in the 1930s (her dad had been gassed in the 1st World War and his lungs wrecked). It was a disease of the poor back in the 20s and 30s before the NHS. The only thing that saved the poor from disease & slum landlords was the building of Council Housing from the 1930s on and the NHS. Council Housing went with Thatcher and the NHS is being dismantled by the Tories. We're left with homelessness, slum landlords, rack rents and Grenfell.

As for the scum who'd pour petrol on a homeless vagrant? David Cameron (pig fucker), Clegg, Boris and the Bullingdon Boys Club would assault and insult the Poor, any working people serving them and burn £50 notes in front of a homeless person. It was your threshold for becoming a member of the Bullingdon Club. If THEY are the people who rule you then THAT is the Society they create... so what surprise other scum learn from the likes of Cameron, Clegg and Boris Johnson.

May they rot in Hell.

Ooh bullshit lol, that's pure class hatred, and just as bad as any hatred on the planet.

It will never get better while people hate.

The hatred comes from ONE Ideological direction. It is not the sick who are dismantling the NHS. It is not the homeless or poor who destroyed, sold off and dismantled the Council Housing stock in this country. It was the Tories who hated what it represented... a way out of slum landlords clutches.

If the Tories could put a cash collection gate on the way into hospitals they would... oh yeah they have. They charge you to park. Now there's a Golden Goose Contract.

I have no hatred for anyone. But when Boris and Clegg and Cameron burned £50 notes in front of poor people sleeping on the streets... I think those Bullingdon Boys were showing pure hatred. May they rot in the same Hell that they created for others. "

QED. I hear nothing but bitter hatred in your words. Funny, I never heard any from the aristocracy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I lost a friend who was killed in work.

His colleagues thought it woukd be funny to pour petrol on him and throw lit matches at his feet to make him dance.

People are cunts at times.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I lost a friend who was killed in work.

His colleagues thought it woukd be funny to pour petrol on him and throw lit matches at his feet to make him dance.

People are cunts at times."

Unbelievable.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"The idea that there was a Golden Age when human life was valued and people were not cruel and heartless is a myth I'm afraid. Humans particularly the poor and vulnerable are used pieces of spent trash to many.

My Mum's parents died of TB in the 1930s (her dad had been gassed in the 1st World War and his lungs wrecked). It was a disease of the poor back in the 20s and 30s before the NHS. The only thing that saved the poor from disease & slum landlords was the building of Council Housing from the 1930s on and the NHS. Council Housing went with Thatcher and the NHS is being dismantled by the Tories. We're left with homelessness, slum landlords, rack rents and Grenfell.

As for the scum who'd pour petrol on a homeless vagrant? David Cameron (pig fucker), Clegg, Boris and the Bullingdon Boys Club would assault and insult the Poor, any working people serving them and burn £50 notes in front of a homeless person. It was your threshold for becoming a member of the Bullingdon Club. If THEY are the people who rule you then THAT is the Society they create... so what surprise other scum learn from the likes of Cameron, Clegg and Boris Johnson.

May they rot in Hell.

Ooh bullshit lol, that's pure class hatred, and just as bad as any hatred on the planet.

It will never get better while people hate.

The hatred comes from ONE Ideological direction. It is not the sick who are dismantling the NHS. It is not the homeless or poor who destroyed, sold off and dismantled the Council Housing stock in this country. It was the Tories who hated what it represented... a way out of slum landlords clutches.

If the Tories could put a cash collection gate on the way into hospitals they would... oh yeah they have. They charge you to park. Now there's a Golden Goose Contract.

I have no hatred for anyone. But when Boris and Clegg and Cameron burned £50 notes in front of poor people sleeping on the streets... I think those Bullingdon Boys were showing pure hatred. May they rot in the same Hell that they created for others.

QED. I hear nothing but bitter hatred in your words. Funny, I never heard any from the aristocracy."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

I’m afraid it’s always been this way .

Tragic that we were granted free will and a greater level of intelligence and this is what some choose to do with it "

I don't re call it always being this way .

I'm born n bred London ..

There was rarely stabbings or shootings

It's every other day at the minute .

The problem is the punishment .

Prison educates them more and they live a free life .no rent no bills .free food free everything !!

Why not put them on the army ..not to go to war but to learn manners respect and discipline

Turn them into real men ..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think some people aren't capable of facing reality therefore they imagine when life had worth and People were noble.

The reality is we've always been brutal but hundreds of years of social progression can easily be undone, society is no different than an eco system, it's finally balanced and one or two things astray can send it spiralling into catastrophe and lifelessness.

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By *hispers-40Woman  over a year ago

up the garden path


"when did it become so worthless. what with all the random stabbings going on everywhere. Ive just read two guys poured petrol on and set fire to a homeless person as he slept. He has survived but has severe burns. I despair i really do

But for every evil act, there's some Saint doing something good.. Think positive or we may as well climb into bed and never get up..

Oh, and give your loved ones an extra hug.. They're lucky to have someone that cares.. Xx"

do very true

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By *innie The MinxWoman  over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"The bad stuff always makes the news, the good stuff doesn't always."

Agree.

Also news doesn't just fall into the papers or news feeds by accident, the stories you read are picked and positioned for maximum impact.

Why does one missing child story make the news but the other 112,000 yearly in the UK not (and I've rounded that figure down)

Why does one murder make the news but the 139 women killed in domestic violence cases in 2018 not?

Why aren't the 7000plus deaths yearly directly attributed to alcohol news while obesity is?

Why aren't all the good things that happen in your community, your country, the world given as much daily coverage as the bad?

We are manipulated by the media on a daily basis.

The main aim is to keep the public fearful, to keep us divided, and ultimately to keep us in our place.

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