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"I am noticing a big increase in Big Issue sellers who are Romanian women. Is it: a. just up here in the Greater Manchester area b. a pattern across the country c. just my imagination " maybe it's the same one stalking you lol | |||
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"I am noticing a big increase in Big Issue sellers who are Romanian women. Is it: a. just up here in the Greater Manchester area b. a pattern across the country c. just my imagination " did you check their passports then? | |||
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"A. How many big issue sellers are there in your area? B. How many of them do you see? C. Are they all Romanian" a 2 or 3 b 2 or 3 (obviously?) c have not checked passports. | |||
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"there is one lady here in my town,,she has one big issue,,you try to buy it and she says thanks for the donation,,yes she is romany" Romany is not the same as Roma. | |||
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"Because selling the big issue is classed as self employment. Person's from certain countries are limited to claiming benefits if they have not worked in the UK. So for example a person from Romania has to of worked for a certain amount of time before being able to claim benefits. So they sell the Big Issue A. To get work B to obtain a reference C. To intigrate with society D. To claim benefits so that they can obtained housing benefit so they can obtain a decentl home... " and bring their mum and grandmum and brothers and sisters .......... | |||
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"why does the nationality of the seller matter? not knocking your thread, just wondering ta " Good question. Mainly for two reasons: Firstly, people from European Accession countries have limits on work permit status. Secondly - and call me all the names you want here - I do believe the Big Issue should be to help people who have become homeless *whilst already living in the UK* and not for people to enter the country and declare themselves homeless. | |||
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"Because selling the big issue is classed as self employment. Person's from certain countries are limited to claiming benefits if they have not worked in the UK. So for example a person from Romania has to of worked for a certain amount of time before being able to claim benefits. So they sell the Big Issue A. To get work B to obtain a reference C. To intigrate with society D. To claim benefits so that they can obtained housing benefit so they can obtain a decentl home... and bring their mum and grandmum and brothers and sisters .........." Why would they do that.. they won't be entitled to benefits either | |||
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"why does the nationality of the seller matter? not knocking your thread, just wondering ta Good question. Mainly for two reasons: Firstly, people from European Accession countries have limits on work permit status. Secondly - and call me all the names you want here - I do believe the Big Issue should be to help people who have become homeless *whilst already living in the UK* and not for people to enter the country and declare themselves homeless." Do you buy the big issue? If so buy it off someone who fits your required demographic. I'ts a buyers market | |||
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"why does the nationality of the seller matter? not knocking your thread, just wondering ta Good question. Mainly for two reasons: Firstly, people from European Accession countries have limits on work permit status. Secondly - and call me all the names you want here - I do believe the Big Issue should be to help people who have become homeless *whilst already living in the UK* and not for people to enter the country and declare themselves homeless." don't buy it from them then, choose another vendor. god forbid, I ever have to sell it. mind ya, I feel similar about all the Brits in Rhodes, Canaries, Majorca, Benidorm etc etc.... giving out tickets for nightclubs to get drinks for the summer... | |||
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" Secondly - and call me all the names you want here - I do believe the Big Issue should be to help people who have become homeless *whilst already living in the UK* and not for people to enter the country and declare themselves homeless." Has it not occured to you that they probably didnt "enter the country and declare themselves homeless"? Do you think possibly that they had some plan beyond that? Do you think that maybe their circumstances have changed since they arrived? Incidentally, do you actually buy The Big Issue? | |||
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"Because selling the big issue is classed as self employment. Person's from certain countries are limited to claiming benefits if they have not worked in the UK. So for example a person from Romania has to of worked for a certain amount of time before being able to claim benefits. So they sell the Big Issue A. To get work B to obtain a reference C. To intigrate with society D. To claim benefits so that they can obtained housing benefit so they can obtain a decentl home... and bring their mum and grandmum and brothers and sisters .......... Why would they do that.. they won't be entitled to benefits either " oh they do it. we have lots around costa del medway. The ones I know are very clever, but very lazy. Not all mind but it does seem to be a pattern. They share information. | |||
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"God forbid anyone here becomes homeless... Stats say that you are 3 paychecks from becoming homeless... " I think many people forget this. I was very, very close to being homeless 2 1/2 years ago. We are talking hours. A job offer fell through, on benefits and job hunting, benefits agency screwed up my application for Housing benefit, landlord served notice but agreed I could stay if I was upto date before end of the notice period. Housing benefit arrived on the final day. I was single and have no family, I'm not sure what would have happened as there is only so long you can sleep on friends sofas. | |||
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"God forbid anyone here becomes homeless... Stats say that you are 3 paychecks from becoming homeless... I think many people forget this. I was very, very close to being homeless 2 1/2 years ago. We are talking hours. A job offer fell through, on benefits and job hunting, benefits agency screwed up my application for Housing benefit, landlord served notice but agreed I could stay if I was upto date before end of the notice period. Housing benefit arrived on the final day. I was single and have no family, I'm not sure what would have happened as there is only so long you can sleep on friends sofas." Homeless non priority and prob ended up in a hostel or shared private housing... | |||
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"so did that answer your OP?" yes, even though it is the Telegraph, it did | |||
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"Mind you, ALL the benefits and magazine sales of ALL the Romanian and Bulgarian B.I. sellers in the UK combined won't match the bonus paid to Fred Goodwin at RBS or Adam Applegarth at Northern Rock as reward for screwing up. But two wrongs don't make a right." correct!. | |||
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"Does it matter? People that tend to sell the Big Issue are usually in, or trying to escape from a pretty desperate place. Surely their nationality is irrelevent. I await the inevitable "not even proper homelss, living a big flash house etc etc" post with a sense of resigned inevitability..." you forgot FLATSCREEN TV'S | |||
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"plenty of them in idderminster and in birmingham too!,i know they are rumanian because when i asked "where are you from?" they replied "romania!" seem to be coining it in with all the benefits thrown at them they do!." they arent eligible for benefits which is why they are selling the big issue | |||
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" you forgot FLATSCREEN TV'S " Do people still say "flatscreen TVs"? It's a bit like saying the radio a wireless these days | |||
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" they arent eligible for benefits which is why they are selling the big issue " But today a court has ruled that by selling the BI they are classed as self-employed and are therefore entitled to apply for housing and income support benefits. | |||
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" they arent eligible for benefits which is why they are selling the big issue But today a court has ruled that by selling the BI they are classed as self-employed and are therefore entitled to apply for housing and income support benefits. " EXACTLY!. they are bloody coining it in!. | |||
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"so we moan about people sitting on there arses doing nothing then some moan because people are trying to do something with their life. We have a big issue seller her and she is there in all bloody weathers, good luck to her" exactly, standing still in the freezing cold is not one they do to enjoy themselves..... | |||
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" But today a court has ruled that by selling the BI they are classed as self-employed and are therefore entitled to apply for housing and income support benefits. " Purely coincidentally on the same day you started a thread about it!yet you didn't mention the court ruling in your OP. I wonder why? | |||
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" But today a court has ruled that by selling the BI they are classed as self-employed and are therefore entitled to apply for housing and income support benefits. Purely coincidentally on the same day you started a thread about it!yet you didn't mention the court ruling in your OP. I wonder why?" Because I found out about today's case as I googled the search that brought up the Telegraph article I quoted. | |||
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"so we moan about people sitting on there arses doing nothing then some moan because people are trying to do something with their life. We have a big issue seller her and she is there in all bloody weathers, good luck to her exactly, standing still in the freezing cold is not one they do to enjoy themselves....." Was thinking that all the way through reading this thread. Glad someone had mentioned it before I got to the end. Right or wrong, its fookin freezing and I wouldnt want to stand outside for hours selling it | |||
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"I have had to take the Guardian article off....Admin don't mind you posting a link to it and even pasting a bit of it, but they would rather the whole article wasn't on the forums." Fair enough. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8527950/Romanian-families-use-Big-Issue-loophole.html | |||
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"Would prefer the Daily Mails version as I value there unbiassed reporting on our european friends" I have the "Tea and Kittens" plugin on my browser so if I click a link that takes me to the Daily Fail it gets replaced with a lovely picture of a cup of tea and cute kitten. I detest the Mail. The Telegraph has some bonkers right wing columnists but sometimes even a broken clock tells the correct time. Like as I said earlier, the biggest leeches of public money generally live in Knightsbridge and are called Tarquin. | |||
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