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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Back again with more advice for my puppy lol
Has anyone had any experience with having a dog castrated?
Im thinking of having mine done to see if it calms him down, hes just turned 6 months so now old enough, hes so very hyperactive and a little bit snappy to be honest which is obviously someone i need to get sorted before he reached an adult
Ive spoken to my vet but was told it works for some dogs but not for other but worth giving it a go to see how he reacts
So i just wanted to ask you fab people on fab of if anyone has had theirs done and what was the out come of the op? did it calm the dogs down or did you not really see any change at all  |
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"Back again with more advice for my puppy lol
Has anyone had any experience with having a dog castrated?
Im thinking of having mine done to see if it calms him down, hes just turned 6 months so now old enough, hes so very hyperactive and a little bit snappy to be honest which is obviously someone i need to get sorted before he reached an adult
Ive spoken to my vet but was told it works for some dogs but not for other but worth giving it a go to see how he reacts
So i just wanted to ask you fab people on fab of if anyone has had theirs done and what was the out come of the op? did it calm the dogs down or did you not really see any change at all "
Having my dog 'done' was a stipulation of being able to 'adopt' him from a local dog's home.
Couldn't tell you if it made him calmer but they reckoned if everyone had it done then there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of unwanted pups destroyed every year.
I cried like i'd been totally disloyal to him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Tends to work when the dogs young at calming them down. However, it can take a bit of their character away too.
If it's a breed like terrier, spaniel, boxer etc expect it to be rather energetic to say the least.
I personally would rather train the dog out of it rather than chop it's plums off. Most areas have puppy training courses. Some breeds mature quicker than others.
Good luck but please look into it before you chop 'em off (male half here sat with legs crossed). |
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Hello nn i had my staffy puppy done last month aged 6 months as well. had the same problems as you with yours a bit snappy and hyper and not listening to me, but what a turn around i have had with him. alot calmer plays nice with the children doesn,t roam away no humping either lol..and is alot better with commands. just still a bit hyper when people vist but once had a fuss settles down
hope thats helped with the discussion about your puppy |
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By *ddiddyMan
over a year ago
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hi i had a german shepard that was very wicked and kept jumping the wall around the garden well i had him done he stopped jumping the wall but dident quiten him down did him no harm what so ever i had my two bitches neutered too its very safe and had no adverse effects on any of them so my advice would be to go for it oh by the way i had it done to myself first just to see if it was ok lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Probably better to get advice from properly trained behaviourist. Might be hormones depending on breed and castration might help or moderate but might still need behavvioural changes. Is an anti testesterone injection vet might tyn if you want try that. Is temporary. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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He goes to puppy training classes, hes not a bad dog just very hypo and as i said snaps a lot, its more the snapping i want to stop as the classes dont seem to be helping with that, but was told by having his bits removed it would take away the testosterone so stop any aggressive behaviour which is obviously better than risking him not out growing it
Its not to bad at the mo as with him being young hes not much of a threat when he does it but time will change that is not sorted now |
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It is better to get a dog castrated at around 6 months if you dont intend to breed from him. It does take a while for the hormones to decrease, we would recommend you would get a good dog trainer in if he is nippy sometimes ut just takes a little training to sort out these things . your local vet should be able to recommend someone local . I have a local police dog trainer she does all our puppies. good luck |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd agree with the training out. You don't mention what breed of dog it is as already mentioned that makes a big difference to how hyper they are. If it's something like a springer, which are naturally hyper, then you need to tyre it out by taking it for a good walk.
As for being snappy you need to make sure you socialise it with other dogs and people early on so it gets used to it before it gets bigger otherwise you'll have problems  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I haven't read the other replies so apologies if I am just echoing someone else.
Yes, get him castrated. The later it is done, the more chance there has been for testosterone to flood his system, making him more likely to stray, to be aggressive and/or to behave in a territorial manner. Also, obviously, it will mean that there won't be any chance of him being responsible for bringing unwanted puppies into the world.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So what kind of dog IS it? Snappiness can be fear, dominance, bad training, experience, bad/wrong handling. I don't think anyone here can answer your question tbh ie. Will it help? Someone has to assess the dog and your interaction with it, to be able to advise you. Be aware not all behaviourists know what hey think they know. Get one for a one to one from a recognised source |
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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago
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I had my bitch spayed as she started having epilieptic fits, and was told by the vet it was due to hormoes. However, it has not changed her in the slightest, just dont get as many boy dogs appearing out of nowhere.
She's just as randy and as moody as she was before hand and shes 9.
Dont know if its different for boy dogs though. You could speak to your vet or trainer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bitches only have flushes of hormones every 6 to 1x months (lucky things) so neutering doesn't make behavioural changes unless something abnormal. Male dogs live with testosterone all the time, hence the difference in behaviour once castrated |
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As above... bitches are only female when they are in season, in between time they are effectively asexual.
An entire male dog can tend towards dominance but that also goes hand-in-hand with poor management of the dog.
An entire male dog will tend to stray to seek a mate this also goes with poor management.
Castration has a 50% success rate in improving behaviour, probably because of management issues.
So it might help it might not but it won't make things worse. The dog has no need for them, he is not aware (like humans) that they exist and he certainly won't miss them when they are gone.
The 'nipping' is him starting to control you! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If he is nipping he needs firmer handling or aversion techniques.try having a water spray bottle and give him a firm no and little spray then place him in a quiet room or his crate he will soon get the message |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hes a greyhound, so i know they quite energetic dogs but hes something else lol they are not a know aggressive dog infact they usually quite timid, ive had him since he was 6 weeks old which i have been told could be the problem as he was taken away from his mother to young and it could have had a effect on his behaviour, but also know that because ive had him since that age hes not a rescue dog and hes never been ill treated, he does not just go for you un provoked as such, he wouldnt just come and snap at you if your sat on the sofa or cuddling him, but certain things seem to trigger it, going to hold his collar to put his lead on seens to be the biggest, if he run off with my daughter toys and you try to take it off him is another
I know nobody on here can give me a answer and as i have said he does go to training classed and i have spoken to my vet but people like that never want to give you a definitive answer its always "well it could help but its not 100%" lol so i was really just interested in other peoples experiences that have had the same and theres been a couple of helpful replys  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Thanks for more info. As you say, the answer is not cut and dried but from what u've just said, I'd castrat him, wait a couple of months, then have a one to one with a behaviourist. Dogs are quitelike teenagers about 3-7 months of age. Some need their knackers off right away, others, a few tactical changes lol. Good luck! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Greyhounds can be quite snappy, although loyal too. It may also be a surprise to know that adult greyhounds don't need a great deal of exercise, quite low maintenance pets for you.
I was advising against the snip purely from a blokes point of _iew lol, I mean what bloke would advise to have the plums chopped off his fellow male.
However, the argument for too many puppies about is a far more sensible approach lol. Just don't have them pickled in a jar next to his bed. Also make sure you there when he first cleans himself after the op, our friends german shepard was totally perplexed when he went down to clean his plums only to find out they'd been stolen lol. |
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By *waymanMan
over a year ago
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"Hes a greyhound, so i know they quite energetic dogs but hes something else lol they are not a know aggressive dog infact they usually quite timid, ive had him since he was 6 weeks old which i have been told could be the problem as he was taken away from his mother to young and it could have had a effect on his behaviour, but also know that because ive had him since that age hes not a rescue dog and hes never been ill treated, he does not just go for you un provoked as such, he wouldnt just come and snap at you if your sat on the sofa or cuddling him, but certain things seem to trigger it, going to hold his collar to put his lead on seens to be the biggest, if he run off with my daughter toys and you try to take it off him is another
I know nobody on here can give me a answer and as i have said he does go to training classed and i have spoken to my vet but people like that never want to give you a definitive answer its always "well it could help but its not 100%" lol so i was really just interested in other peoples experiences that have had the same and theres been a couple of helpful replys "
My dog is entire - and a happy and content lap dog because that's what he's been brought up to be - he can be territorial, and I have had to haul him off a labrador he thought was trying to attack me, but both things are perfectly reasonable.(if comical given that the little fella is tiny next to a labrador...)
Castration as a way of changing behaviour is little better than quackery - it may improve behaviour, not because of hormonal changes, merely because the poor bloody dog is terrified of what'll get hacked off next!
As someone says above, success rate for surgery in changing behaviour is 50% - far better to exhaust the behavioural route first, especially as you're describing things that sound like associative behaviour (collar / lead) and neediness / misdirected play (the toys...) |
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By *waymanMan
over a year ago
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"As others have said get him done anyway, it is the responsible thing to do, there are too many unwanted dogs as it is.
Sorry i cant help more specifically, we only had bitches "
Not letting them shag is always an answer
Although you have to try not to laugh when a polite lady says 'You have to pull them off before they get going...' |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Like others have said, get him done !
It may reduce his hyperctivity, it may not but there are other reasons too.
Feeling horny and never being able to act on it is frustrating in itself and may lead to him to act in a negative manner towards yourself and others.
It should also stop the sniff and piss at every lamp post associated with a lot of male dogs.
It may also reduce the wish to be 'out there' when there is a local bitch on heat so reduce the chance of him getting out /running off.
I was brought up round dogs as my grandad used to breed whippets and boxers (how northern ? lol)
I have owned greyhounds and they are not normally hyperactive dogs - in fact they are generally quite lazy dogs - they need a good walk of say 45 minutes, 2 or 3 times a day and ideally somewhere to run (a local field or quiet park), but more often than not are quite happy to curl up in front of the fire or at your side.
Is he getting enough walks ? If not, that may account for some of his hyperactivity too.
The biting thing may be down to lack of things to chew, especially bearing in mind his age - always ensure that he has something to chew on - the nylon bones you can buy that are meat flavoured are ideal.
It may well also be down to play fighting / top dog status.
My current dog (a staffie cross) mouths quite a lot, but it is in play and is always accompanied by a waggy tail.
However, I cannot encourage that as whilst I am comfy with it, stangers are likely not to be.
Pushing him away etc can sometimes be miscounstrued as play, so I just leave my hand there and after a few seconds he gets fed up as he knows I'm not interested in his game.
Good luck with him.
Don't feel guilty about having him castrated - as many men will tell you on here, there's nothing worse than having a full sack and not being able to empty it  |
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"Like others have said, get him done !
It may reduce his hyperctivity, it may not but there are other reasons too.
Feeling horny and never being able to act on it is frustrating in itself and may lead to him to act in a negative manner towards yourself and others.
It should also stop the sniff and piss at every lamp post associated with a lot of male dogs.
It may also reduce the wish to be 'out there' when there is a local bitch on heat so reduce the chance of him getting out /running off.
I was brought up round dogs as my grandad used to breed whippets and boxers (how northern ? lol)
I have owned greyhounds and they are not normally hyperactive dogs - in fact they are generally quite lazy dogs - they need a good walk of say 45 minutes, 2 or 3 times a day and ideally somewhere to run (a local field or quiet park), but more often than not are quite happy to curl up in front of the fire or at your side.
Is he getting enough walks ? If not, that may account for some of his hyperactivity too.
The biting thing may be down to lack of things to chew, especially bearing in mind his age - always ensure that he has something to chew on - the nylon bones you can buy that are meat flavoured are ideal.
It may well also be down to play fighting / top dog status.
My current dog (a staffie cross) mouths quite a lot, but it is in play and is always accompanied by a waggy tail.
However, I cannot encourage that as whilst I am comfy with it, stangers are likely not to be.
Pushing him away etc can sometimes be miscounstrued as play, so I just leave my hand there and after a few seconds he gets fed up as he knows I'm not interested in his game.
Good luck with him.
Don't feel guilty about having him castrated - as many men will tell you on here, there's nothing worse than having a full sack and not being able to empty it "
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"Hes a greyhound, so i know they quite energetic dogs but hes something else lol they are not a know aggressive dog infact they usually quite timid, ive had him since he was 6 weeks old which i have been told could be the problem as he was taken away from his mother to young and it could have had a effect on his behaviour, but also know that because ive had him since that age hes not a rescue dog and hes never been ill treated, he does not just go for you un provoked as such, he wouldnt just come and snap at you if your sat on the sofa or cuddling him, but certain things seem to trigger it, going to hold his collar to put his lead on seens to be the biggest, if he run off with my daughter toys and you try to take it off him is another
I know nobody on here can give me a answer and as i have said he does go to training classed and i have spoken to my vet but people like that never want to give you a definitive answer its always "well it could help but its not 100%" lol so i was really just interested in other peoples experiences that have had the same and theres been a couple of helpful replys
My dog is entire - and a happy and content lap dog because that's what he's been brought up to be - he can be territorial, and I have had to haul him off a labrador he thought was trying to attack me, but both things are perfectly reasonable.(if comical given that the little fella is tiny next to a labrador...)
Castration as a way of changing behaviour is little better than quackery - it may improve behaviour, not because of hormonal changes, merely because the poor bloody dog is terrified of what'll get hacked off next!
As someone says above, success rate for surgery in changing behaviour is 50% - far better to exhaust the behavioural route first, especially as you're describing things that sound like associative behaviour (collar / lead) and neediness / misdirected play (the toys...)"
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we are talking dogs here arent we
haha dont make me laugh my head still hurts "
little story ...i wanted a leash, and in the interests of economy wondered if Sir had a choke chain...he replied in horror "Using those on dogs is cruel... you will have to buy yourself one off ebay" |
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we have a rescue parsons jack russell, very snappy and extremely hyper when we first had him.
he is 3 yrs old now and we had him done and its been brilliant since.
he now just growls instead of snapping and is a much happier dog.
we do know he was mistreated before we had him as he has no lower k9 teeth, the vet has said from the xrays taken that they did not fall out!!!
i would advise you to speak to not only your regular vet in more detail, but also other vets in your area. |
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If you're going to do it then its best before his hormones get him into bad habits! My friends dog didn't get snipped till he was two and he carried on humping things after - not great in a 9 stone Rottweiler! 
But he was calmer in other ways - much better on the lead.
My opinion with my cats, other than population control, was that it was better that they never knew what they'd be missing! |
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By *averiMan
over a year ago
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"Back again with more advice for my puppy lol
Has anyone had any experience with having a dog castrated?
Im thinking of having mine done to see if it calms him down, hes just turned 6 months so now old enough, hes so very hyperactive and a little bit snappy to be honest which is obviously someone i need to get sorted before he reached an adult
Ive spoken to my vet but was told it works for some dogs but not for other but worth giving it a go to see how he reacts
So i just wanted to ask you fab people on fab of if anyone has had theirs done and what was the out come of the op? did it calm the dogs down or did you not really see any change at all "
You can have him chemically castrated to see if it works...the jab lasts about 3 months I think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sounds like you have a pup with ideas above his station, you have to stop him thinking he's the alpha. I find that the reduction in hormones will help calm him but you have to assert yourself as alpha in his eyes. When ever he snaps put his lead on, lead him to a room away from the family and leave him with his lead on in the room alone for a short time. Don't let him sit on your lap or the furniture as he will see himself as being higher in the pecking order. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yh I had a dog from the rspca, castration helps a lot for certain type of behaviours.
But over behaviours need to be controlled by the pack leader(you), he needs to know he's at the bottom of the pack. Never give in don't let him on ur bed and certain area's of the house. He always eats after you. etc etc it takes a while but is important to have a dog that is obediant, the dog will also respect your position more and will be far happier, its what dogs need. They are also far more intellegient when brough up that way and begin to think instead of been daft dogs just running about getting what they want.
My dog from the rspca was out of control, and seriously damaged mentally, he was even terrified of the grass when we first took him out. Now he loves to be part of the pack, he does as he is told, he is immensley happy and has bags of confidence now and extremely clever. Loves his walks too now, he'll sit at the door looking at his lead same time everyday when his walk is due |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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OP- forum advice is great but... If you try the wrong tactic with the wrong dog you will make things worse. Get face to face advice. Nothing else will help properly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would presume the best thing you can do is concentrate on his training. He MUST be trained to see you as top dog.
Our dog was boisterous as a puppy but he mellowed by 2 yrs. He had the snip after he and his "missus", our other dog, had a couple of litters. It did not change his personality so I would imagine if he had been agressive beforehand he would have remained so.
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By (user no longer on site)
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having ur puppy castrated will help him in other ways 2 ,not likely 2 get prostrate cancer ,,they tend 2 live longer yes behave alot calmer ,n wen he steals toys play the game of swap offer him a toy of his own rubber ball,they lv a game of fetch i have 3 dogs 2males n a bitch n all have been nuetured ,,,, also c in ur area if there is a local agility classes ,,remarkable advice n grt fun 2 ,,,, gud luk ,,,  |
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I had a 4 month old staffy from a rescue centre. I was very clear in the first few months of his life whoever owned him had not treated him very well. If you picked up a newspaper he pissed where he stood and couldn’t stop shaking…. I found that one out when my dad walked through the door carrying a paper. The biggest problem was other dogs, no matter how big he went for them will full on aggression. If he was off the lead on the park he’d be off chasing them and wouldn’t give a shit how much you called him back.
By 6 months he could be around other dogs and not pay any attention. By the time he was 1 year he never went on the lead. He’d walk to heel and wait to be told he could go and run about, always coming back when called.
You can train out behaviour no matter how boisterous.
He kept his nuts.
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interesting topic..
our rescue collie is to be done as that was part of the agreement in homing him etc..
his temperament and behaviour is fine, training him the same way we did our airedale..
allways thought, perhaps wrongly that the 'op' would reduce any testosterone and inhibit any aggression or aggressive tendencies..
but if the dog never had any as it has been trained in a certain way ie. the correct one, then there would not be any aggression post the 'op' anyway perhaps?..
just a thought..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a 4 month old staffy from a rescue centre. I was very clear in the first few months of his life whoever owned him had not treated him very well. If you picked up a newspaper he pissed where he stood and couldn’t stop shaking…. I found that one out when my dad walked through the door carrying a paper. The biggest problem was other dogs, no matter how big he went for them will full on aggression. If he was off the lead on the park he’d be off chasing them and wouldn’t give a shit how much you called him back.
By 6 months he could be around other dogs and not pay any attention. By the time he was 1 year he never went on the lead. He’d walk to heel and wait to be told he could go and run about, always coming back when called.
You can train out behaviour no matter how boisterous.
He kept his nuts.
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that's interesting polo
i have the same issue with my x-staffie in terms of aggression towards other dogs
soft as buggery with humans, just wants to get fed, play fetch and tug o'war, chew his toys and get some cuddles
no trouble at all once we got over the wee'ing in the house thing he had initially (which i can only assume was part of him settling down)
but his problem doesn't lie with all dogs, he may walk past 4 and then go for the 5th.
never barks or growls or exhibits any outward signs and then BOOF he's at em
how did you train that aggressive side out of him ? |
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" how did you train that aggressive side out of him ?"
Instinct says keep him away from other dogs… but as you know avoidance isn’t the answer. I could tell when he was worked up, as a little patch of fur on the top of his tail would stand on end, even when he was still some distance from other dogs. As soon as that happened he was reprimanded firmly. If that didn’t work it was a firmer reprimand with a moderate tap on the nose. I kept him on a very short lead, so as to keep control and gradually allowed other dogs to get closer and closer. …. and of course rewarded him lots when he managed to pass a dog without trying to go for it. I spent hours and hours on the park repeating this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally speaking, I'd try a more intensive training.
We have owned dogs since year dot and always been around them growing up.
Castration might not be the answer, if he continues to be unruly you have wasted money in having it done and still got a bugger of a pup! lol
Youtube or google training tips and give the dog more one to one attention and training. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Glad this worked for you, Polo but there are a couple things I'd never recommend, as a dog trainer. One is smacking a dog on the nose for any reprimand, the other, keeping a tight leash on a dog with aggressive issues with other dogs. There are lots of reasons for both but this isn't the place to go into detail. Good luck everyone with their dogs xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I had my first dog castrated eellbut it didn't make any difference to his behaviour what so ever.
My dad used to breed dogs when I was a kid and was well against it. His advice to me was to train the dog and exercise it well.
My old dog died and I got another and I took my dads advice. I went to puppy training classes, and I made sure that when I take him out, I really give him plenty of exercise.
My dog is a lurcher type mongrel, quite a big dog, greyhound size, so it's a big ask sometimes. But he's really well behaved, he's well trained and obedient and it's a pleasure to be in his company.
We live in a rural community now, and I know not everyone can give their pet the same amount of attention that I can give mine.
As long as I'm fit and able, my dog, and any future dogs too will always be "intacto"
Castration doesn't always have the desired effect.
Mind you, if they cut my nuts off, it'd quieten me down a bit |
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What breed is he?
I would reccommend if you do not intend to breed from him to definately get him castrated. Majority calm down after they have had it done. It's important though to keep the training up and persevering with it to stop any naughty puppy tricks. |
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Also to add lots of exercise is important can make Huge difference, obviously taking care not to do lots untill he has reached full maturity as he will still be growing. Once had to go to call and found a German Shepheard the owner thought a run in the garden would be enough. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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I was advised mine would calm down...
was told a year
was told 18 months
was told after castration, I said to the vet after 4 months post Operation that I see no difference... the reply ' if they were daft dogs before, they will be daft dogs after'..... my £300 bill helped not a jot.
now 29 months.... a baby step improvement.
my fault tho as I didn't see thro the training but they are FAB dogs tho |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Had to share the vision with you all- my 14 year old dog lying, totally knackered and panting having spent the last half hour bonking his two nieces, who are in season. (The dog run door blew open, he got in and I've just rescued him). Point is, he was castrated at 3months old because I bred dogs. And he still managed an impressive fifth leg. Some things are not necessarily bollock-led lol |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Had to share the vision with you all- my 14 year old dog lying, totally knackered and panting having spent the last half hour bonking his two nieces, who are in season. (The dog run door blew open, he got in and I've just rescued him). Point is, he was castrated at 3months old because I bred dogs. And he still managed an impressive fifth leg. Some things are not necessarily bollock-led lol "
good on the old boy |
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Sorry I haven't read all the replies but did read where you mentioned that you've had him since 6 weeks old, that's most likely why he is biting and snapping.
Puppies have to learn from their mother and siblings that biting is not appropriate and this is most likely to happen around the 6 week mark.
Castration may help with his hyperactivity, it may not. Seek one on one advice from a recommended trainer and work with the issues one at a time.
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Hence he had the chop as advised by the vet.
