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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Various factors. The demand for pubs has been declining for years. Very hard to make a living running a pub especially if you don't own the leasehold. The land is worth a lot of money for building on and it is classed as a brownfield site so easy to get planning permission on. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Why are so many pubs closing down ?
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Lots of reasons.
Rising cost of a pint encourages ppl to drink at home.
Increase in social media means that the boozers and nightclubs are no longer the social hubs they once were.
The increase in healthy living and body image is a factor too.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Where i live there are 2 pubs within 2 minutes walk and a further 5 within 10 minutes walk, and one of those is a Wetherspoons..
Recently 2 pubs were rescued from certain closure by a dedicated bunch of locals and all are thriving..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wetherspoons I suppose.
Good old capitalism."
I agree......Wetherspoons sit like greedy toads in town centres sucking the livelihood and character from what was once the hub of communities.
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Whatever else, it wasn’t the smoking ban.
I think a lot of pubs were probably just a bit crap, and didn’t, or couldn’t, adapt fast enough when pubs started to become more family friendly and food oriented. Just less demand for the typica bloke’s spit and sawdust type place.
Factor in the sort of stuff already mentioned above, and it was always going to be hard going for a lot of places. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wetherspoons I suppose.
Good old capitalism.
I agree......Wetherspoons sit like greedy toads in town centres sucking the livelihood and character from what was once the hub of communities.
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I disagree.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was talking about this to my dad the other day and I think the biggest factor is its not socially acceptable to drink every night of the week anymore, and rightly so.
Plus what I've seen round mine (not saying this applies everywhere) but the one closing down tend to be the old run down pubs with old men in, only carling on draught and a hostile atmosphere towards any new faces.
Theres obviously other factors too but I feel like the tired run down places didn't adapt and I don't feel too bothered if they go out of business.
It's like uber, I'd never use another type of taxi unless I absolutely had to. The market changed and the old taxis didn't adapt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wetherspoons I suppose.
Good old capitalism.
I agree......Wetherspoons sit like greedy toads in town centres sucking the livelihood and character from what was once the hub of communities.
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Wetherspoons have a great selection of drinks with their different ale festivals etc and at good prices, they are always clean and have good facilities and the staff tend to be friendly and helpful.
They are pushing out small independent pubs but they are doing it by providing a good service in a lot of cases I've seen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"30 second walk to our local. Proper country pub with a lovely fire going at this time of the year. I'm going down in 10 minutes. "
See that's a pub worth saving. Enjoy pour pint  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wetherspoons I suppose.
Good old capitalism.
I agree......Wetherspoons sit like greedy toads in town centres sucking the livelihood and character from what was once the hub of communities.
Wetherspoons have a great selection of drinks with their different ale festivals etc and at good prices, they are always clean and have good facilities and the staff tend to be friendly and helpful.
They are pushing out small independent pubs but they are doing it by providing a good service in a lot of cases I've seen. "
Well, yeah thats how capitalism works. I dont think anyone would deny they are good. They just end up having huge monopolies and influence.
WALMART, Starbucks, Spoons etc. Whatever. None of it is good for locals really.
I have never felt good about being in a spoons they're absolutely abysmal in my opinion. No real atmosphere, no sense of community. Not like a local pub. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The younger generation don’t go to pubs like my generation,we used to go to local every night as nothing else to do ,now they have PlayStation internet etc so locals are becoming a thing of the past. |
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"30 second walk to our local. Proper country pub with a lovely fire going at this time of the year. I'm going down in 10 minutes.
See that's a pub worth saving. Enjoy pour pint "
Cheers. Its only small but friendly and always has a couple of guest ales. It never gets overly busy but landlady does a quiz on a Monday. They have a darts and dominos team on a Tuesday and one of the 2 football teams comes in every Saturday after a game. I do my best to help keep it going too lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wetherspoons I suppose.
Good old capitalism.
I agree......Wetherspoons sit like greedy toads in town centres sucking the livelihood and character from what was once the hub of communities.
Wetherspoons have a great selection of drinks with their different ale festivals etc and at good prices, they are always clean and have good facilities and the staff tend to be friendly and helpful.
They are pushing out small independent pubs but they are doing it by providing a good service in a lot of cases I've seen.
Well, yeah thats how capitalism works. I dont think anyone would deny they are good. They just end up having huge monopolies and influence.
WALMART, Starbucks, Spoons etc. Whatever. None of it is good for locals really.
I have never felt good about being in a spoons they're absolutely abysmal in my opinion. No real atmosphere, no sense of community. Not like a local pub."
You are right about atmosphere, although where I grew up most the pubs were rough as arseholes with regular fights, drugs etc so I didn't shed a tear when those 'locals' got tore down. |
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"The younger generation don’t go to pubs like my generation,we used to go to local every night as nothing else to do ,now they have PlayStation internet etc so locals are becoming a thing of the past."
Exactly, pubs made money because there was literally nowhere else to go.
If I wanna meet with a friend now we could go to loads of different places which don't involve alcohol |
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"Wetherspoons I suppose.
Good old capitalism.
I agree......Wetherspoons sit like greedy toads in town centres sucking the livelihood and character from what was once the hub of communities.
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I'm not too sure about that, Wetherspoons aren't perfect but at least they offer reasonable prices and often operate pubs which might have closed otherwise.
I'd say you have to blame the pub companies more than wetherspoons. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wetherspoons I suppose.
Good old capitalism.
I agree......Wetherspoons sit like greedy toads in town centres sucking the livelihood and character from what was once the hub of communities.
I'm not too sure about that, Wetherspoons aren't perfect but at least they offer reasonable prices and often operate pubs which might have closed otherwise.
I'd say you have to blame the pub companies more than wetherspoons."
They just literally can't compete. That's the nature of capitalism in the end really. One or two corporations end up with a vice like grip on everything.
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Drinking culture has totally changed . Today’s generation drink at home with supermarket booze , then turn out much later to socialise . I also think gaming , the internet and the greed of the brewery’s have also had a detrimental impact . |
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By *good-being-badMan
over a year ago
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I worked for a major brewer, record year for their sales '74.
There have been massive socio economic changes in the JK over the past 40 years or so. All have played a part in the decline of the pub trade.
The same was said of cinema forty years ago video has or will kill it, come forward and here has been a resurgence in cinema attendance now record numbers chances are the pub as we know it today will need to evolve into what it needs to be for the next generation(s) same as the cinema turned into the multiplex.
Dryanuary.. oh wait too late I'm having a glass of hiccup juice.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I worked for a major brewer, record year for their sales '74.
There have been massive socio economic changes in the JK over the past 40 years or so. All have played a part in the decline of the pub trade.
The same was said of cinema forty years ago video has or will kill it, come forward and here has been a resurgence in cinema attendance now record numbers chances are the pub as we know it today will need to evolve into what it needs to be for the next generation(s) same as the cinema turned into the multiplex.
Dryanuary.. oh wait too late I'm having a glass of hiccup juice. "
Good example. Adaptation is the key |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So the government has us where they want us,,,,off the streets,,,sitting at home infront of flat screens drinking cut price supermarket booze.... minimal socialising,,,,They give us WiFi,,,,want Alexa in every home...
Ever felt like we're being manipulated?. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lots of people don't even have homes to sit in or televisions to site in front of like docile cows.
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They're docile...they don't need to be programmed.  |
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"Lots of people don't even have homes to sit in or televisions to site in front of like docile cows.
They're docile...they don't need to be programmed. "
You ever tried to get a cow to go to the supermarket? They really aren't keen |
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Personally I blame cheap drink in supermarkets for the decline of pubs. I would love to see a return to the days of alcohol only being sold at pubs/off-licenses and restaurants... and make off-licenses close at 10pm.
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"So the government has us where they want us,,,,off the streets,,,sitting at home infront of flat screens drinking cut price supermarket booze.... minimal socialising,,,,They give us WiFi,,,,want Alexa in every home...
Ever felt like we're being manipulated?."
Not really, no. You’re lucky where you are though, as we don’t get our WiFi from the government round here. |
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By *IG08Man
over a year ago
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Another big reason I think is there are so many more things for people to do than when I was a kid in the 80's. Back then the pub was the only social thing I remember adults doing other than going to people's houses. No shops were open on a Sunday or late in the evening, no massive retail parks and multiplexes, no internet and limited tv/computing options, no millions of coffee shops or fast good chains to hand out in
To interact you had to go to the pub with the kids being left in the snooker room or pub garden
There are so many choices of things to do, that pubs in some degree are no longer the hub of the community
Also, we're all miserable gits and don't like chatting to new people
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A really nice micro-pub opened up before Christmas just 5 mins walk away from me.
It's lovely inside, only serves a few beers and ciders (and gin) from a few local small breweries but it's busy every night.
It's a lovely quiet and friendly pub, going there in a bit xx |
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