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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Did you watch it? I did and cried my eyes out

Mrs

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By *he Mac LassWoman  over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

Yup. It had me sobbing. Such a well crafted film. The cast are perfect.

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

Leeds

Yes. And so did I. So much so I thought about posting on here about it so I'm pleased that you have. This film will stick with me for a long time, and not just because I have Geordie connections

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Shit I missed it. Was it on bbc? iplayer perhaps?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Shit I missed it. Was it on bbc? iplayer perhaps? "

Yes it was on BBC and it should b on iPlayer

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I broke my heart

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No i didnt watch daniel thanks for asking

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shit I missed it. Was it on bbc? iplayer perhaps?

Yes it was on BBC and it should b on iPlayer"

Cheers. Will watch it tomorrow night.

x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I broke my heart"

I feel like I know the film title but can't remember what it's about could somebody enlighten me please.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No i didnt watch daniel thanks for asking "

Lol trust you. Honestly was so emtional.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

"I am not a client, a customer, nor a service user. I am not a shirker, a scrounger, a beggar nor a thief.

I am not a national insurance number, nor a blip on a screen. I paid my dues, never a penny short, and was proud to do so.

I don’t tug the forelock but look my neighbour in the eye. I don’t accept or seek charity.

My name is Daniel Blake, I am a man, not a dog. As such I demand my rights. I demand you treat me with respect.

I, Daniel Blake, am a citizen, nothing more, nothing less. Thank you."

#IamDanielBlake

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By *albec26Man  over a year ago

Great Yarmouth

A perfectly crafted film that depicts real life for so many.... x heart breaking x

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By *s_bettyboopWoman  over a year ago

-3

Watched it when it was first released, so sad and it made me cry. Everyone should watch it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""I am not a client, a customer, nor a service user. I am not a shirker, a scrounger, a beggar nor a thief.

I am not a national insurance number, nor a blip on a screen. I paid my dues, never a penny short, and was proud to do so.

I don’t tug the forelock but look my neighbour in the eye. I don’t accept or seek charity.

My name is Daniel Blake, I am a man, not a dog. As such I demand my rights. I demand you treat me with respect.

I, Daniel Blake, am a citizen, nothing more, nothing less. Thank you."

#IamDanielBlake"

Oh yes now I remember haven't seen it but I've heard a lot about it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Watched it when it was first released, so sad and it made me cry. Everyone should watch it. "

Agreed. It's the harsh reality for many people. I bet there is loads of people on here who have been through it or going through t

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


""I am not a client, a customer, nor a service user. I am not a shirker, a scrounger, a beggar nor a thief.

I am not a national insurance number, nor a blip on a screen. I paid my dues, never a penny short, and was proud to do so.

I don’t tug the forelock but look my neighbour in the eye. I don’t accept or seek charity.

My name is Daniel Blake, I am a man, not a dog. As such I demand my rights. I demand you treat me with respect.

I, Daniel Blake, am a citizen, nothing more, nothing less. Thank you."

#IamDanielBlake

Oh yes now I remember haven't seen it but I've heard a lot about it. "

You should watch it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No i didnt watch daniel thanks for asking

Lol trust you. Honestly was so emtional. "

trust me what you kindly asked me a question even named me

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By *0cksuckerMan  over a year ago

Coventry

Yes, so sad

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No i didnt watch daniel thanks for asking

Lol trust you. Honestly was so emtional. trust me what you kindly asked me a question even named me"

.this is why i like you. Your sense of humour , ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I sobbed at this film.

So sad.

It stayed with me for a long time after

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London

Must be a cold cow as I watched it couple years ago and was unmoved...just found it grim.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I saw it in the cinema when it came out and bought the DVD to watch it again with my husband. It was nearly 2 years before I could actually watch it again because it broke my heart so badly!

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Yes it's a very sad and frustrating film to watch. Thankfully there for the grace of God,I haven't been in that position yet and I'm praying I never will be. It looks soul destroying.

When she opened the can at the food bank as her child watched on...

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I was reading Twitter and someone said Ken Loach admitted that the worst bits were left out simply because nobody would believe it was real if it included them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've been on the receiving end of the so-called 'system'. Everyone really should watch this film, and try to imagine their life if it happened to them.

Like most of us, I never thought it would happen to me.

They call it the DWP a reason - it's the Department for Wiping out the Poor.

Bastards.

//end rant

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I've been on the receiving end of the so-called 'system'. Everyone really should watch this film, and try to imagine their life if it happened to them.

Like most of us, I never thought it would happen to me.

They call it the DWP a reason - it's the Department for Wiping out the Poor.

Bastards.

//end rant "

Thats a great name to call them

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I was reading Twitter and someone said Ken Loach admitted that the worst bits were left out simply because nobody would believe it was real if it included them. "

The worst bits wow there some heart wrenching moments when she opened that tin in the food bank got me and couldn't afford sanitary products awful

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No I didn't, I don't like political fiction.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

The big wigs sat at the government couldn't give a floss about us commoners and some times your not even better off working. The economy is worth jack

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The big wigs sat at the government couldn't give a floss about us commoners and some times your not even better off working. The economy is worth jack"

And woe betide if you should fall ill, have an accident or suffer some other form of misfortune.

They try to make out like they care, but all they really care about is keeping the rich rich, and the poor poorer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The big wigs sat at the government couldn't give a floss about us commoners and some times your not even better off working. The economy is worth jack

And woe betide if you should fall ill, have an accident or suffer some other form of misfortune.

They try to make out like they care, but all they really care about is keeping the rich rich, and the poor poorer. "

Yes we been there was awful

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman  over a year ago

stourbridge area

Thankyou folks for bringing this film to my attention.

I watched it on I player last night... an excellent film , everyone needs to watch it ..

If you haven't already , please do .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I now know what I am doing for the next couple of hours

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

About to watch it now.

But political fiction? And it’s grim?

honestly shaking my head right now. But I get that there’s lots wrong in this world so expect it. Got some balls

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How anyone can not be moved by this and not see there is clearly a massive fuck up with this government being in power is beyond me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's so wrong people are treated like this and I sometimes see the conditions people live in due to my job and it's so sad.

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By *ack4goodMan  over a year ago

Area

I watched it this morning and have to admit when the little one asked for new trainers because the girls at school were laughing at her, it had me in floods ....

Such a sad film but probably a true reflection

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Politicians of all colours should be made to watch this record of what their half-cocked, half-assed ideas have done to people who need help in times of need.

Perhaps then it would be shown whether they are actually human too - or just money-obsessed aliens who leech on any way to put the lesser well-off down while protecting their interests and lining their own pockets.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’m half way thru...

That guy giving the mum his number...?

Do I need to guess what his help may entail?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politicians of all colours should be made to watch this record of what their half-cocked, half-assed ideas have done to people who need help in times of need.

Perhaps then it would be shown whether they are actually human too - or just money-obsessed aliens who leech on any way to put the lesser well-off down while protecting their interests and lining their own pockets."

It’s just awful. Shameful. Nothing Great about Great Britain.

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By *ooliganMan  over a year ago

Preston

I watched it, I've got to say I thought it was a bit shit... The acting is truly awful, the directing was non-existant... I really don't understand how it received so many plaudits.

It could very easily have been far more powerful.

But yep, I think I got sommat in my eye when she ate beans at the food bank...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This was such a moving film. It made me feel so sad at how people are treated. God I hope I never have to be in that situation, but one never knows what's round the corner!

Love thy neighbour... if you can

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I watched it, I've got to say I thought it was a bit shit... The acting is truly awful, the directing was non-existant... I really don't understand how it received so many plaudits.

It could very easily have been far more powerful.

But yep, I think I got sommat in my eye when she ate beans at the food bank..."

Because it’s not about the acting or the directing

My god. Actually have no words.

You win the award for stupidest comment 2019

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By *ooliganMan  over a year ago

Preston


"Because it’s not about the acting or the directing

My god. Actually have no words.

You win the award for stupidest comment 2019 "

What? It's a film, not a fucking documentary!! Jesus...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because it’s not about the acting or the directing

My god. Actually have no words.

You win the award for stupidest comment 2019

What? It's a film, not a fucking documentary!! Jesus..."

Think you’re missing the point. No worries probably for the best..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's far more factual than you'd believe!

The realness of the subject matter doesn't need a Stephen Spielberg workover!


"What? It's a film, not a fucking documentary!! Jesus..."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've got it on DVD and it's one of the most honest and realistic films I've ever seen. I was a single mum for a long time and can relate to this film. When youre in a vulnerable position and your life suddenly changes....the system bites you HARD.

There were many nights I slept with a winter coat on becasuse I couldn't afford gas, went days without eating so my son could. This was a weekly occurance in my house for YEARS.

Political fiction? No....

Harsh reality for many through no fault of Thier own? YES.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's far more factual than you'd believe!

The realness of the subject matter doesn't need a Stephen Spielberg workover!

What? It's a film, not a fucking documentary!! Jesus..."

Exactly. It’s meaning is what’s important.

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By *ooliganMan  over a year ago

Preston


"Think you’re missing the point. No worries probably for the best.."

No, YOU are missing the point, you're just reading what you want to read and then being fucking rude!

I said it was poorly acted and could have been made more powerful. In what way is that a stupid comment? I think there's only one contendor for that on this thread!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's far more factual than you'd believe!

The realness of the subject matter doesn't need a Stephen Spielberg workover!

What? It's a film, not a fucking documentary!! Jesus...

Exactly. The storylines are based on the experiences of real people. Ken Loach did a LOT of research for this film.

Exactly. It’s meaning is what’s important. "

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

Just Wikipedia’d the plot. Too close to my childhood to make comfortable viewing for me.

Won’t be watching sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is on my watch list tonight

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will watch it on catch up this week, though it’s a bit close to home for me. X

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"I watched it, I've got to say I thought it was a bit shit... The acting is truly awful, the directing was non-existant... I really don't understand how it received so many plaudits.

It could very easily have been far more powerful.

But yep, I think I got sommat in my eye when she ate beans at the food bank..."

Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

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By *ooliganMan  over a year ago

Preston


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me."

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me."

Maybe,I think the message comes out loud and clear inspite of it though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me."

Ok. I thought your opinion was a little insensitive.

I actually thought the acting was good, it felt real. Almost like it was a real life documentary. But that’s just my take on it..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me.

Maybe,I think the message comes out loud and clear inspite of it though."

This I 100% agree with

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me.

Ok. I thought your opinion was a little insensitive.

I actually thought the acting was good, it felt real. Almost like it was a real life documentary. But that’s just my take on it.."

Actually I agree with that second sentence.

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By *ooliganMan  over a year ago

Preston


"Ok. I thought your opinion was a little insensitive. "

Insensite to whom? It's a forum thread about a film... Maybe you should take a look at yourself before being so rude to people - I posted an honest critic of the film... If you find my opinion of a fucking film insensitive, perhaps you need a break from the internet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok. I thought your opinion was a little insensitive.

Insensite to whom? It's a forum thread about a film... Maybe you should take a look at yourself before being so rude to people - I posted an honest critic of the film... If you find my opinion of a fucking film insensitive, perhaps you need a break from the internet."

You’ve sworn twice at me. I think it is you who needs the break.

Have a nice day

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman  over a year ago

stourbridge area


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me."

Oh dear...

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By *ky19Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

Haven't seen it, bit too close to me too.

I've not quite been in that situation but am not a million miles from it. I do know people who have been affected, and have paid for them with money I don't have so I know well enough.

I'm glad plenty of people understand this isn't acceptable.

Nice Department of Wiping out the Poor comment up there

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By *ky19Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

Also, I just thought I'd post this true story again about how the offices are given bonuses based on how many peoples' benefits they can sanction.

A woman missed 2 meetings in a 12 month period due to needing to chase after her troublesome teenage daughter. This resulted in a full sanction and losing all her money.

Some months later she got a letter through her door telling her she was being taken to court for benefit fraud. Arriving at the office for an explanation, she was told coldly the reason why is because "you're still alive! So obviously you've had another source of income."

Now what had happened was that family and friends had been helping out as much as they could in the meantime, but this shows the inhuman mindset of those at the offices, and even more so up the order, to those we vote in every 5 years (because we can't vote someone in who said something offensive - or whatever other narrative is given).

Thankfully there is still hope because the judge threw that case out along with many others like it.

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By *ky19Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

And also, people with a serious disability or illness affecting their life which could result in death are often told they have to give an approximate date on a form "when you expect you're going to die".

This date needs to be in the near future or they don't pay (well you can't be that ill if you're going to live longer). And if this date is exceeded they can again, expect to be dragged up for benefit fraud.

Interesting mindset of the people who come up with these things.

This isn't the case everywhere but it is sometimes.

Without having seen the film I will nevertheless say there probably isn't much danger of it being political fiction.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester

As a result of seeeing this thread I just finished watching this film .

I cried , I felt for him , for her , for the kids and for anyone who has to live like this .

And I’m a very typical middle class , Tory voting , well off bloke who had a heart attack a year ago and who hasn’t been back to work because I don’t need to . I’m financially comfortable enough and may not go back at all .

This programme has made me feel ashamed that I don’t do enough to help others . And I know I can’t make a difference on my own , but if a few hundred like me or even better a few thousand like me try and do something to help because we can , then the film has been worthwhile .

It’s a bloody crazy society we live in where this happens all too often . Absolutely crazy and we can make a difference if we just change the way we think .

The system is geared to make life as hard as possible for good and honest people to get what they are entitled to get . Surely it’s not too hard to tell who is genuine and who isn’t ? I know it was a film , but it felt real , and was surely based on facts .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I broke my heart

I feel like I know the film title but can't remember what it's about could somebody enlighten me please. "

Think 'boys from the black stuff' without the black humour.

Society doesn't give a shit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As a result of seeeing this thread I just finished watching this film .

I cried , I felt for him , for her , for the kids and for anyone who has to live like this .

And I’m a very typical middle class , Tory voting , well off bloke who had a heart attack a year ago and who hasn’t been back to work because I don’t need to . I’m financially comfortable enough and may not go back at all .

This programme has made me feel ashamed that I don’t do enough to help others . And I know I can’t make a difference on my own , but if a few hundred like me or even better a few thousand like me try and do something to help because we can , then the film has been worthwhile .

It’s a bloody crazy society we live in where this happens all too often . Absolutely crazy and we can make a difference if we just change the way we think .

The system is geared to make life as hard as possible for good and honest people to get what they are entitled to get . Surely it’s not too hard to tell who is genuine and who isn’t ? I know it was a film , but it felt real , and was surely based on facts . "

This

This is the kind of response the film is meant to illicit.

Never make the mistake of thinking it won't happen to you. Because it can. It happened to me.

And don't ever think that there's a net there to catch you if it does. Because there isn't.

This government truly does not care about you or your family, unless of course you happen to be a wealthy donor.

Goodnight

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By *acko9568Man  over a year ago

saltburn


"As a result of seeeing this thread I just finished watching this film .

I cried , I felt for him , for her , for the kids and for anyone who has to live like this .

And I’m a very typical middle class , Tory voting , well off bloke who had a heart attack a year ago and who hasn’t been back to work because I don’t need to . I’m financially comfortable enough and may not go back at all .

This programme has made me feel ashamed that I don’t do enough to help others . And I know I can’t make a difference on my own , but if a few hundred like me or even better a few thousand like me try and do something to help because we can , then the film has been worthwhile .

It’s a bloody crazy society we live in where this happens all too often . Absolutely crazy and we can make a difference if we just change the way we think .

The system is geared to make life as hard as possible for good and honest people to get what they are entitled to get . Surely it’s not too hard to tell who is genuine and who isn’t ? I know it was a film , but it felt real , and was surely based on facts . "

Please, could you message me, as I have your circumstance timewise, but could NOT afford to stop work.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman  over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

Ken Loach is an activist, he has done many films on poverty and social issues.

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By *andom2chatMan  over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain


"As a result of seeeing this thread I just finished watching this film .

I cried , I felt for him , for her , for the kids and for anyone who has to live like this .

And I’m a very typical middle class , Tory voting , well off bloke who had a heart attack a year ago and who hasn’t been back to work because I don’t need to . I’m financially comfortable enough and may not go back at all .

This programme has made me feel ashamed that I don’t do enough to help others . And I know I can’t make a difference on my own , but if a few hundred like me or even better a few thousand like me try and do something to help because we can , then the film has been worthwhile .

It’s a bloody crazy society we live in where this happens all too often . Absolutely crazy and we can make a difference if we just change the way we think .

The system is geared to make life as hard as possible for good and honest people to get what they are entitled to get . Surely it’s not too hard to tell who is genuine and who isn’t ? I know it was a film , but it felt real , and was surely based on facts . "

If it’s that good I must watch it.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman  over a year ago

stourbridge area

I didnt watch it for its "acting"

But for its realism ... this film was made in 2016 .... and its coming true unfortunately ... we are the 5th richest country in the world .. and still families have to use food banks to feed their children .....once again the government are robbing from the poor..... shame on you .

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By *ophiaCDTV/TS  over a year ago

St Asaph


"I was reading Twitter and someone said Ken Loach admitted that the worst bits were left out simply because nobody would believe it was real if it included them. "

Ken should bring out a director’s cut

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By *ophiaCDTV/TS  over a year ago

St Asaph

Ken Loach has made loads of films “Cathy come Home” changed the way we looked at single mothers and housing in the 60’s let’s hope this film changes the way we look at our society in the 2020’s

Check,out all his other films and documentaries

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""I am not a client, a customer, nor a service user. I am not a shirker, a scrounger, a beggar nor a thief.

I am not a national insurance number, nor a blip on a screen. I paid my dues, never a penny short, and was proud to do so.

I don’t tug the forelock but look my neighbour in the eye. I don’t accept or seek charity.

My name is Daniel Blake, I am a man, not a dog. As such I demand my rights. I demand you treat me with respect.

I, Daniel Blake, am a citizen, nothing more, nothing less. Thank you."

#IamDanielBlake"

Absolutely fantastic. Such a sad film with all truth of what they system is like!

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By *radleywigginsMan  over a year ago

northwest


"Politicians of all colours should be made to watch this record of what their half-cocked, half-assed ideas have done to people who need help in times of need.

Perhaps then it would be shown whether they are actually human too - or just money-obsessed aliens who leech on any way to put the lesser well-off down while protecting their interests and lining their own pockets."

This is exactly what some middle aged, sandal wearing bleeding heart liberal vegetation communist shouted at the screen when I watched this at the cinema on a Sunday morning.

I had to point out that if every dole scrounging, work-shy scally ‘was made to watch it’ then the government maybe wouldn’t have been forced to make the changes to the benefit system in which the subjects of the film find themselves trapped.

Well acted, brilliantly written and certainly punches home it’s point. But, superb film as it is, it’s one-sided and politically motivated.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I didn't watch it. It's a reality for some people.

We saw it coming though, with so many people shouting "scrounger" and "benefit cheats" at the television after those "eye-opening" channel 4 documentaries about 1 street in the UK.

We fell for it and people are now suffering. Maybe some of those people who complained about too much money going to lazy people are now suffering after going onto Universal Credit.

We told the Government we wanted to cut the benefits bill, and they did. Luckily for them the banks tossed all the countries money away so they used austerity as a cover.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's kinda scary that so many of us are only a few steps away from poverty. I for one just live month to month. Sad as fuck really.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Have just watched it

Harrowing story

Had a small experience with social and fortunate was only small

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By *acko9568Man  over a year ago

saltburn

Had an experience with the dole. Sanctioned because someone decided I hadn’t sent 36 job applications one week. It was “only” £72 per week for 6 weeks. Still had to pay my bills, had to eat and heat. But the govt decide that their miracle cure is to live on fresh air.

No-one should be made to endure such appalling treatmentt in one of the richest countries in the world.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I watched it. It’s so easy for people to lose everything. Conservatives are gleefully keen to trample on those less well off.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Absolutely brilliant portrayel off our fucked up society!!!

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By *terling2017Woman  over a year ago

birmingham


"I've got it on DVD and it's one of the most honest and realistic films I've ever seen. I was a single mum for a long time and can relate to this film. When youre in a vulnerable position and your life suddenly changes....the system bites you HARD.

There were many nights I slept with a winter coat on becasuse I couldn't afford gas, went days without eating so my son could. This was a weekly occurance in my house for YEARS.

Political fiction? No....

Harsh reality for many through no fault of Thier own? YES."

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By *andom2chatMan  over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain

Thanks to this thread & reading the comments posted I’ve just finished watching this film on the BBC iPlayer.

In the end credits there’s a “very special thanks to the workers within the DWP & PCS Union who provided us with invaluable information but who must remain anonymous” presumably because they might get sacked & find themselves in the same position as the title character Daniel Blake.

For those who haven’t seen it, Daniel is a 59 yo carpenter, a tradesman with skills, who after a heart attack finds himself having to claim benefits from a system he’s contributed to throughout his working life. However the system is now set up in order to help ensure he fails.

Along the way we meet his neighbour, China who sells knock off training shoes out the back of a car (today’s young entrepreneur the Govt like to boast about as counting as self-employed), & Katie a single Mum with two kids who moved from London to the only area she can find social housing.

The film tracks Dan’s attempts to claim the pittance he thinks the system’s catchnet is supposed to pay until such times as he can return to the work place. However he finds the social contract he thought he’d been paying into through his tax is harder to claim than he thought. We see how he tries to maintain his dignity, helping others where he can & voicing his opinions when he sees others who now don’t “give a shit”. We see how his frustration grows as he has a meltdown in a Michael Douglas type “Falling Down” scene, until finally the denouement plays itself out.

There were many standout scenes that others here have highlighted. The scene with Katie in the Foodbank comes to mind here. The scene with her daughter who is taunted by schoolmates for needing new shoes struck a note for me too. There’s many other scenes too that will force viewers to confront the society we’ve helped to create either through our apathy, our selfishness or by the votes bribed from us (only to be instantly forgotten about once power has been attained. Until the next election).

I won’t give away the entire plot but if you watch the film I hope most will sympathise with how easy the vast majority of us are only a single pay cheque away from being caught in a similar trap. If, like myself, you’re fortunate enough to be more than one pay cheque away from the trap our Government have put in place then I’d at least hope they could feel compassion for the central characters & wonder how we found ourselves being so uncompassionate in the 5th or 6th (I think we slipped) richest country in the world.

I don’t subscribe that the vast majority of those who need benefits are scroungers as per the media’s propaganda machine would have me believe. The biggest chunk of the DWP’s budget is actually for Pensions, & money we allocate to Benefits is a minuscule figure compared to say the legal loopholes we see Governments allow individuals & corporations avoid in tax through tax havens or other tax avoidance schemes.

When confronted with the fact that successive Governments have broken their social contract with the electorate I can’t help but feel cheated as Daniel Blake does. I can’t help but wonder that the money we pay into the system (whether for Benefits, Pensions, Health Care, Education, or our infrastructure - roads, rail, utilities) is being diverted to help make more money for the tiny percentage of our population that avoids paying tax altogether. The very people who least need a helping hand when times get rough, who have never realised the effect when entire towns or communities lose their jobs, or have never witnessed generations of benefit claimants in the same family.

I found “I Daniel Blake” a powerful docudrama along the lines of Ken Loach’s earlier work “Cathy Come Home” which itself helped change the debate on homelessness in the 60’s. Perhaps this film will change the debate on how we can change the benefit system effectively so that in 21st Century Britain we address why the Working Class have become the Working Poor, the Middle Class are now the Working Class, our poorest are considered Scroungers, whilst 1% of the population hide money across the globe rather than invest in Britain.

In closing, I’d urge you to look up the BBC iPlayer & watch the movie. Then ask yourself how you would cope if you found yourself in Dan’s position.

My apologies for the long winded post, but I felt we really do need to be nicer to people if we want a better society.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

^^^ Great post

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By *ky19Man  over a year ago

Plymouth


"^^^ Great post "

This. Especially the last sentence. I do agree we helped create this situation by falling for the benefit fraud propaganda.

No-one wants scroungers taking the P, but I'd rather show some compassion to those in need even if it means some scroungers get through - rather than how it is now, like a third world country.

I ain't watching the film cos I'm one of the many who are one paycheck away...

Hoping popular opinion will change and things get better.

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By *ky19Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

Oohhh I had to post back here cos I heard some good warming news today.

None other than Amber Rudd says she's going to make improvements to benefits/universal credit to try to make it a little fairer!

I know better than to get too excited just yet. Lets hope this is for real and doesn't end up being even more cynical.

I've never been on benefits but feel very much for people trapped in a 3rd world situation.

If enough of us have enough of a voice and realise we maybe went a bit too far after the Benefits St debacle, things could get a little bit easier and the suffering of too many people lessened.

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By *andom2chatMan  over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain


"Oohhh I had to post back here cos I heard some good warming news today.

None other than Amber Rudd says she's going to make improvements to benefits/universal credit to try to make it a little fairer!

I know better than to get too excited just yet. Lets hope this is for real and doesn't end up being even more cynical.

I've never been on benefits but feel very much for people trapped in a 3rd world situation.

If enough of us have enough of a voice and realise we maybe went a bit too far after the Benefits St debacle, things could get a little bit easier and the suffering of too many people lessened."

Saw it mentioned on lunchtime news. Let’s see if they stick to their word before we cheer.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me."

Oh aye, He's a rank amateur that Ken Loach.

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By *acko9568Man  over a year ago

saltburn


"Far more powerful?! Bloody hell I think it was powerful enough and scared the hell out of me.

I felt like the "actors" were making the script up as they went along, they weren't in the slightest bit convincing, so it came across like a really bad made-for-TV production.

If it had been better acted/directed, I think it would have been more believable, ergo, more powerful. That's how it came across to me.

Oh aye, He's a rank amateur that Ken Loach. "

Yeah, hasn’t got a clue about how the “real” public are treated.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Politicians of all colours should be made to watch this record of what their half-cocked, half-assed ideas have done to people who need help in times of need.

Perhaps then it would be shown whether they are actually human too - or just money-obsessed aliens who leech on any way to put the lesser well-off down while protecting their interests and lining their own pockets.

This is exactly what some middle aged, sandal wearing bleeding heart liberal vegetation communist shouted at the screen when I watched this at the cinema on a Sunday morning.

I had to point out that if every dole scrounging, work-shy scally ‘was made to watch it’ then the government maybe wouldn’t have been forced to make the changes to the benefit system in which the subjects of the film find themselves trapped.

Well acted, brilliantly written and certainly punches home it’s point. But, superb film as it is, it’s one-sided and politically motivated."

What the actual.....?

Perhaps have a good, long think about who the actual "scroungers" are.

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By *elloIntrigueMan  over a year ago

North West UK

I worked in this system for the DWP for 16 years and stood it for as long as I could.

I always tried to help people, I thought being a civil servant, that was part of the make-up until things started happening against my politics from 2010.

We moved away from helping people to becoming benefit police. That was never my style. I used to genuinely be upset when people were having their money stopped, because sanctions don't work, IMO. You push people further away from the job market.

Pressure was put on staff to refer more people to sanctions.

I can assure people that the contents of this film are happening to people out in the real world, which is shameful for the 7th richest country in the world.

The mere existence of foodbanks I find abhorrent.

The system has a lot to answer for.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman  over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


" Conservatives are gleefully keen to trample on those less well off. "

I think i know why.

If everyone had the chances they had then many more of us are capable of doing their jobs and in a better way. And they themselves would bethe ones struggling.

I don't believe in the theory that attaining wealth or power causes people to change, i believe people attain power and wealth because of the morals they have in the first place and are fine retaining.

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