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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control." There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control." Jesus... | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control." But it's not. A lot of these hunts actually help breed foxes for the sole purpose of a hunt. They use fox cubs to train the hounds. They are not helping anything. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick " If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. But it's not. A lot of these hunts actually help breed foxes for the sole purpose of a hunt. They use fox cubs to train the hounds. They are not helping anything." Except their own bloodlust  | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now." Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick I understand the Natural world mate | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick I understand the Natural world mate " Lots of people think we are freaks and deviance this just how you guy's are seeing fox hunting. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now." Nothing natural about it. Hell, domesticated animals aren't even naturalare they? | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick I understand the Natural world mate Lots of people think we are freaks and deviance this just how you guy's are seeing fox hunting. " What the fuck? | |||
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"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was. When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it. It's the thrill of the chase after all. Bastards !" I saw plenty of coverage of the fox hound killed on the road over Xmas. No mention that it had been lured there by hunt sabs...... A | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick I understand the Natural world mate " It would appear not. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick I understand the Natural world mate It would appear not." Why would it appear not ? Lol | |||
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"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was. When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it. It's the thrill of the chase after all. Bastards !" Have you seen that piece of shit kicking his horse in the stomach?? Before chasing a fox down!! Filth!!! | |||
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"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was. When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it. It's the thrill of the chase after all. Bastards !" Bloody tree huggers gosh  | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. " Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A | |||
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"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was. When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it. It's the thrill of the chase after all. Bastards ! Bloody tree huggers gosh "I'm going out to hug one now after starting this thread  | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. | |||
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"You’re more likely to see a fox in the city/ town centres , munching on a mucky ‘D , an over weight fox you city people are creating obese foxes with health problems " | |||
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"You’re more likely to see a fox in the city/ town centres , munching on a mucky ‘D , an over weight fox you city people are creating obese foxes with health problems "True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes. | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. " I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A | |||
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" True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes." Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ? | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A " I don’t doubt that. I don’t have FBook so I haven’t seen anything. Violence is not something I can stomach anyway. There has always been violence associated with fox hunting that won’t ever change. Violence is never acceptable. | |||
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" True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes. Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ? " I’m sure they would have given the foxes a 5 minute head start | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A" I agree soon as those chippy middle class uni drop outs mention 'posh cunts' you know it is about class and not animal welfare. Hare coursing and dog fighting is a problem but where is the outrage. | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A I agree soon as those chippy middle class uni drop outs mention 'posh cunts' you know it is about class and not animal welfare. Hare coursing and dog fighting is a problem but where is the outrage." Yes and cock fighting too | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A " | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A " I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A I agree soon as those chippy middle class uni drop outs mention 'posh cunts' you know it is about class and not animal welfare. Hare coursing and dog fighting is a problem but where is the outrage." No ones mentioned class mate | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class." How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike? | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class." Beg all you like. How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at? It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity? When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava? The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing? A | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike? "It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at. But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A" Seeing as in a lot of cases we have encroached onto their habitat by building on green belt land and the countryside thus forcing them to adapt. Yes they may well do damage to wildlife, lambs and chickens (disagree about cats only read the other day an article about this and pretty much disproved this) but how can you justify chasing them and ripping them apart? Yes there are better ways of controlling them but like a lot of things this needs to be done correctly as the eco system will become unbalanced elsewhere. I’m speaking from experience of an equestrian and a granddaughter of farmers as well as being a townie in later life. | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Seeing as in a lot of cases we have encroached onto their habitat by building on green belt land and the countryside thus forcing them to adapt. Yes they may well do damage to wildlife, lambs and chickens (disagree about cats only read the other day an article about this and pretty much disproved this) but how can you justify chasing them and ripping them apart? Yes there are better ways of controlling them but like a lot of things this needs to be done correctly as the eco system will become unbalanced elsewhere. I’m speaking from experience of an equestrian and a granddaughter of farmers as well as being a townie in later life. " Would you mind pointing out where in any of my comments I justify hunting foxes or state I support it? Just one example? A | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. Beg all you like. How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at? It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity? When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava? The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing? A" Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife. And as I’ve already explained, staying within the confines of the law is also part of their remit. Otherwise they’re prevented from doing the job they set out to do. The task is difficult enough as it is without giving reason to be caught up in battles that are unnecessary. Most sabs wear head and body cams for their own protection these days too as well as for evidence purposes. There is more than enough footage to counteract your argument. | |||
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It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. Beg all you like. How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at? It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity? When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava? The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing? A Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife. And as I’ve already explained, staying within the confines of the law is also part of their remit. Otherwise they’re prevented from doing the job they set out to do. The task is difficult enough as it is without giving reason to be caught up in battles that are unnecessary. Most sabs wear head and body cams for their own protection these days too as well as for evidence purposes. There is more than enough footage to counteract your argument." My turn to beg to differ then. I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns. Because those hunting wear cameras too. A | |||
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It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.
But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. Beg all you like. How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at? It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity? When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava? The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing? A Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife. And as I’ve already explained, staying within the confines of the law is also part of their remit. Otherwise they’re prevented from doing the job they set out to do. The task is difficult enough as it is without giving reason to be caught up in battles that are unnecessary. Most sabs wear head and body cams for their own protection these days too as well as for evidence purposes. There is more than enough footage to counteract your argument. My turn to beg to differ then. I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns. Because those hunting wear cameras too. A" And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage? | |||
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" How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?
It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.
But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets
I don't follow.
If you are behaving within the law then why hide?
It’s got nothing to do with the law. Its the people within the hunt and their thugs, who quite frankly aren’t very nice people."I'm a nice person and i go hunting | |||
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" How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?
It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.
But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets
I don't follow.
If you are behaving within the law then why hide?
It’s got nothing to do with the law. Its the people within the hunt and their thugs, who quite frankly aren’t very nice people. I'm a nice person and i go hunting"Maybe so Polly, but the thugs that are brought along most definitely aren’t. Although I admit to finding nice and hunting difficult to come to terms with in the same post. | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. Beg all you like. How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at? It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity? When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava? The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing? A Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife. And as I’ve already explained, staying within the confines of the law is also part of their remit. Otherwise they’re prevented from doing the job they set out to do. The task is difficult enough as it is without giving reason to be caught up in battles that are unnecessary. Most sabs wear head and body cams for their own protection these days too as well as for evidence purposes. There is more than enough footage to counteract your argument. My turn to beg to differ then. I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns. Because those hunting wear cameras too. A And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage?" I don't attend. Do you? But I know and encounter people who do on a regular basis. I've seen footage provided by both hunters and sabs. And I know both sides are guilty of editing said footage to present what They want the viewer to see. If you believe that sabs are innocent parties and purely acting out of motivation for animal welfare then you're delusional. A | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control." Fuck all to do with Control. All to do with stuck up pricks vandalising the countryside. Committing offences by trespassing and breaking the law on the roads. All in the name of sport. AND being allowed to get away with it Sick arrogant bastards  | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. Beg all you like. How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at? It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity? When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava? The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing? A Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife. And as I’ve already explained, staying within the confines of the law is also part of their remit. Otherwise they’re prevented from doing the job they set out to do. The task is difficult enough as it is without giving reason to be caught up in battles that are unnecessary. Most sabs wear head and body cams for their own protection these days too as well as for evidence purposes. There is more than enough footage to counteract your argument. My turn to beg to differ then. I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns. Because those hunting wear cameras too. A And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage? I don't attend. Do you? But I know and encounter people who do on a regular basis. I've seen footage provided by both hunters and sabs. And I know both sides are guilty of editing said footage to present what They want the viewer to see. If you believe that sabs are innocent parties and purely acting out of motivation for animal welfare then you're delusional. A" Yes. Not delusional, just passionate. | |||
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"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted. But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes. It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights. To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats. Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill. A Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. I don't hunt but I know people who do. It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it. Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces. A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family. For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs. A I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them. Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them. This is nothing to do with class. Beg all you like. How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at? It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity? When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava? The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing? A Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife. And as I’ve already explained, staying within the confines of the law is also part of their remit. Otherwise they’re prevented from doing the job they set out to do. The task is difficult enough as it is without giving reason to be caught up in battles that are unnecessary. Most sabs wear head and body cams for their own protection these days too as well as for evidence purposes. There is more than enough footage to counteract your argument. My turn to beg to differ then. I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns. Because those hunting wear cameras too. A And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage? I don't attend. Do you? But I know and encounter people who do on a regular basis. I've seen footage provided by both hunters and sabs. And I know both sides are guilty of editing said footage to present what They want the viewer to see. If you believe that sabs are innocent parties and purely acting out of motivation for animal welfare then you're delusional. A Yes. Not delusional, just passionate." So you can hand on heart say no sab has ever broken the law, been convincted of an offence, behaved in a violent or threatening manner, trespassed, caused criminal damage or caused the death of a hound? A | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now." So in the 'natural world' as you put it, it's all part of nature to chase smaller animals on horseback with packs of dogs to rip them apart is it? I think sir David Attenborough may have missed this somewhere along the line in his nature documentaries then. Perhaps you should enlighten him?  | |||
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" So you can hand on heart say no sab has ever broken the law, been convincted of an offence, behaved in a violent or threatening manner, trespassed, caused criminal damage or caused the death of a hound? A" No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere. What I have said is that sabs are aware of the laws involved around the illegalities of fox hunting, trespassing and public rights of way. They need to make sure to operate within the law at all times. Being violent, operating outside of the law doesn’t help their cause. That’s not to say it doesn’t or hasn’t happened. I cannot and am not responsible for everyone. | |||
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"I applaud saboteurs really. If people are still mindlessly torturing animals despite it being a criminal offense what other option is there? These people need to be fucking punished. Utter cunts." Really?? Saboteurs are themselves very likely to commit crimes in their pursuit of defending foxes! EG. I once worked at a country house Hotel location. The local Hunt met as they did as a Social meet, not for hunting purposes. But saboteurs arrived en-masse into the village. Their mood was anything but polite and to get their way around, they rampaged their way through private houses gardens; some even scaled fences around the hotel's grounds but when asked to leave, we got a volley of abuse, threats of violence and so on. One of our security team was assaulted. Some got arrested in the area for Breach of the Peace and other charges including the assault as mentioned. Yes, the local Hunt had some of their members behave totally negativemy, all as regrettable as what the Saboteurs did. But as in any fight, it takes 2 sides to create the problem and cause a fight. Saboteurs aren't innocent. Their supporters are just as bad. | |||
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" So you can hand on heart say no sab has ever broken the law, been convincted of an offence, behaved in a violent or threatening manner, trespassed, caused criminal damage or caused the death of a hound? A No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere. What I have said is that sabs are aware of the laws involved around the illegalities of fox hunting, trespassing and public rights of way. They need to make sure to operate within the law at all times. Being violent, operating outside of the law doesn’t help their cause. That’s not to say it doesn’t or hasn’t happened. I cannot and am not responsible for everyone." So we can agree that there are bad elements to both sides. Out of interest why do sabs protest at drag hunts where no foxes are being hunted? I know plenty of people who would never hunt foxes yet enjoy drag hunting. There is a difference. Yet each time they attend a meet they are confronted by verbally abusive protesters, many from LACS. A | |||
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"Foxes killed by hunting per year - 20 000. Foxes killed by cars each year - 100 000 - because every car journey is essential, right? I wonder if the foxes really give a shit about how they're killed."20,000 where on earth did you find that statistic? | |||
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" So you can hand on heart say no sab has ever broken the law, been convincted of an offence, behaved in a violent or threatening manner, trespassed, caused criminal damage or caused the death of a hound? A No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere. What I have said is that sabs are aware of the laws involved around the illegalities of fox hunting, trespassing and public rights of way. They need to make sure to operate within the law at all times. Being violent, operating outside of the law doesn’t help their cause. That’s not to say it doesn’t or hasn’t happened. I cannot and am not responsible for everyone. So we can agree that there are bad elements to both sides. Out of interest why do sabs protest at drag hunts where no foxes are being hunted? I know plenty of people who would never hunt foxes yet enjoy drag hunting. There is a difference. Yet each time they attend a meet they are confronted by verbally abusive protesters, many from LACS. A" Because it is very easy to jump to conclusions I suppose. As an aside, "drag hunts" makes an image of Lilly Savage on horseback pop in to my head. Probably says quite a bit about me I guess... | |||
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"Foxes killed by hunting per year - 20 000. Foxes killed by cars each year - 100 000 - because every car journey is essential, right? I wonder if the foxes really give a shit about how they're killed."Plus the fact you can legally shoot or trap then kill foxes to keep their numbers down. | |||
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" So you can hand on heart say no sab has ever broken the law, been convincted of an offence, behaved in a violent or threatening manner, trespassed, caused criminal damage or caused the death of a hound? A No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere. What I have said is that sabs are aware of the laws involved around the illegalities of fox hunting, trespassing and public rights of way. They need to make sure to operate within the law at all times. Being violent, operating outside of the law doesn’t help their cause. That’s not to say it doesn’t or hasn’t happened. I cannot and am not responsible for everyone. So we can agree that there are bad elements to both sides. Out of interest why do sabs protest at drag hunts where no foxes are being hunted? I know plenty of people who would never hunt foxes yet enjoy drag hunting. There is a difference. Yet each time they attend a meet they are confronted by verbally abusive protesters, many from LACS. A" I can’t make any comment about what happens in your area, I’ve never been. But certainly the areas I do know it’s mainly trails as opposed to drags that are targeted. Drag hunts will have a runner that is chased. A trail hunt is often a cover for a real hunt and that is why they are targeted. I don’t know if LACS has a particular stance on that, it’s not an organisation I’m part of so couldn’t comment. Go along to one of the drags yourself rather than getting your information always from someone else, find out personally what happens. | |||
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"As far as I'm aware, the only successful prosecutions for hunting with dogs have been for here coursing. Because, of course it's something that "undesirables" like working class lads and gypsies do. I also notice that nobody cares about the fortunes of rats killed by terriers." I do! I like rats x | |||
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"As far as I'm aware, the only successful prosecutions for hunting with dogs have been for here coursing. Because, of course it's something that "undesirables" like working class lads and gypsies do. I also notice that nobody cares about the fortunes of rats killed by terriers. I do! I like rats x" What ever next ? People will complain about kulling badgers next | |||
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" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. " Drag hunting is not the same!! A scent trail is laid over land where permission had been given to go or over land where horses are allowed. Hounds hunt the trail and the riders follow. They certainly do not rampage over the country side. And on the subject of shooting...that only works if the rifle man is skilled and gets a clean and decisive shot. Too many foxes get wounded by amateurs and go off to die a slow painful death? I certainly don't agree with that! | |||
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" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. Drag hunting is not the same!! A scent trail is laid over land where permission had been given to go or over land where horses are allowed. Hounds hunt the trail and the riders follow. They certainly do not rampage over the country side. And on the subject of shooting...that only works if the rifle man is skilled and gets a clean and decisive shot. Too many foxes get wounded by amateurs and go off to die a slow painful death? I certainly don't agree with that! " oh really well a guy who told them to get off his land was assaulted and the next day his car and shed burned out. Tell they aren't thugs? This was last week btw and i know cause i follow anti hunt pages on facebook | |||
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" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. Drag hunting is not the same!! A scent trail is laid over land where permission had been given to go or over land where horses are allowed. Hounds hunt the trail and the riders follow. They certainly do not rampage over the country side. And on the subject of shooting...that only works if the rifle man is skilled and gets a clean and decisive shot. Too many foxes get wounded by amateurs and go off to die a slow painful death? I certainly don't agree with that! oh really well a guy who told them to get off his land was assaulted and the next day his car and shed burned out. Tell they aren't thugs? This was last week btw and i know cause i follow anti hunt pages on facebook" And an anti hunt page on Facebook would never lie or put a slant on anything? | |||
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks" How do you know about the wealth of people who follow hunts? And what power do they have? | |||
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" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area. However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. Drag hunting is not the same!! A scent trail is laid over land where permission had been given to go or over land where horses are allowed. Hounds hunt the trail and the riders follow. They certainly do not rampage over the country side. And on the subject of shooting...that only works if the rifle man is skilled and gets a clean and decisive shot. Too many foxes get wounded by amateurs and go off to die a slow painful death? I certainly don't agree with that! oh really well a guy who told them to get off his land was assaulted and the next day his car and shed burned out. Tell they aren't thugs? This was last week btw and i know cause i follow anti hunt pages on facebook And an anti hunt page on Facebook would never lie or put a slant on anything?" Well consideri g the post was shared on the page from the telegraph newspaper. But he papers lie too. I. Sure the guy set fire to his own stuff then reported it to the police and took photos and sent them in | |||
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks How do you know about the wealth of people who follow hunts? And what power do they have?" So you're telling me there's working class fox hunters? Haha Tell me which political party flirted with the idea of lifting the ban? | |||
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunter" Just love to know how someone can make a sweeping statement about someone's wealth and power how does he know? | |||
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunter" im working class spent half my life hunting rabbits And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick " Totally agree
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks How do you know about the wealth of people who follow hunts? And what power do they have? So you're telling me there's working class fox hunters? Haha Tell me which political party flirted with the idea of lifting the ban? " Yes trucks drivers factory workers even police officers. Our postman hunts too! | |||
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct" my fried is working class and he shoots too. As he explaind to me once the animals he shoots live a normal life then bam dead. They don't even know its coming. Where as a fox suffer so much terror and pain for what need? So these cunts on horse back get their kicks | |||
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"Oh, I meant to say when the Conservatives successfully duped the public of getting rid of the Liberal Democrats in 2015, the first thing they did was repeal the fox hunting ban. We should hunt David Cameron and have him chased by a gang of hoodies, all while he's going on about "extremism"." No they didn’t. | |||
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct my fried is working class and he shoots too. As he explaind to me once the animals he shoots live a normal life then bam dead. They don't even know its coming. Where as a fox suffer so much terror and pain for what need? So these cunts on horse back get their kicks" Erm things that are shot die in pain too, also the fox more often than not is grabbed by the neck or spine and shook by the first hound that hits it. Then thrown back and torn apart, so it’s usually dead anyway when the others get too it. So I’m led to beleive. Plus have you seen how big fox hounds are? It’s a mix of greyhound fox terrier and bulldog | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick Totally agree
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct my fried is working class and he shoots too. As he explaind to me once the animals he shoots live a normal life then bam dead. They don't even know its coming. Where as a fox suffer so much terror and pain for what need? So these cunts on horse back get their kicks" Foxes is harsh as its not a tasty meat trust me iv tried it its gross so nobody will eat it | |||
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"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry? Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends. A plumber terrier will kill rats much faster and effectively than some muppet with an air rifle. "rabbit tastes hood hare not too bad either bit chewy tho not tried rat but happy for killing them with a boot and the dogs were designed to kill those animals | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. Jesus..." Does he fox hunt too  | |||
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"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry? Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends. A plumber terrier will kill rats much faster and effectively than some muppet with an air rifle. rabbit tastes hood hare not too bad either bit chewy tho not tried rat but happy for killing them with a boot and the dogs were designed to kill those animals "Fox hounds are a especially for foxes, would you beleive? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxhound | |||
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"Should be illegal. They won't ban it because of the rich who like to hunt like the royals and government" I thought illegal was a sick bird ? | |||
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"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry? Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends. A plumber terrier will kill rats much faster and effectively than some muppet with an air rifle. rabbit tastes hood hare not too bad either bit chewy tho not tried rat but happy for killing them with a boot and the dogs were designed to kill those animals
Fox hounds are a especially for foxes, would you beleive?
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" True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes. Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ? " Once they are trapped they are destroyed, usually by shooting. No point in passing the problem on. | |||
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"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry? Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends. " Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals. | |||
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"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry? Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends. Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals. " guess im a lawbreaker as well as a heartbreaker then  | |||
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"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are. Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything ...you don't know me
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"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are. Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything ...you don't know me
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"Should be illegal. They won't ban it because of the rich who like to hunt like the royals and government" So how do you know they are rich? | |||
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"Should be illegal. They won't ban it because of the rich who like to hunt like the royals and government So how do you know they are rich?" I’d love too see the whole of parliament on horseback, | |||
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"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry? Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends. Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals. " Using dogs to hunt rats or rabbits is totally legal. Falconers most certainly do hunt animals, especially using birds such as Harris Hawks (although to be pedantic, someone flying a hawk should rightly be called an austringer. | |||
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"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power. If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately More bollocks Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct" what else can we do with are whippets | |||
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"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are. Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything ...you don't know me
There you go. Point proven.
What point ? I think your seeing what you want to see mate ..like I said you don't me
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"I think fox hunting is disgusting..... Then don't do it " | |||
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"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are. Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything ...you don't know me
There you go. Point proven.
What point ? I think your seeing what you want to see mate ..like I said you don't me
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"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are. Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything ...you don't know me
There you go. Point proven.
What point ? I think your seeing what you want to see mate ..like I said you don't me
You told me what to do, or rather what not to do, dictated what I should think, whilst branding a whole group of people you’ve never met bastards.
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"If any animal needs to be culled due to over population, damage to livestock, crops etc. It should be done cleanly & humanely by a expert marksman. One shot one kill. Not chased till it drops & the ripped apart by dogs owned by rich inbred twats who think they are better than the working man. " From an interview with Miles Cooper. A former hunt sab who's now a hunt master. "Further, LACS state clearly that shooting is always better than hunting. There’s no evidence to support this view at all but that doesn’t seem to put the LACS off one tiny jot. There is only one piece of peer-reviewed and published research that I am aware of in the UK. It was original research entitled “Wounding rates in shooting foxes” led by Dr Nick Fox in 2003 and it indicates that wounding rates could well be very much higher than previously anticipated. I worked on the project as a researcher to Dr Fox and contributed to establishing the initial field trials, protocols and recording of the data sets. Crucially, having been peer-reviewed and published in the Universities Federation for Animal Welfare journal “Animal Welfare” in 2005 it has been judged to have scientific or evidential merit and is replicable. This means that if the LACS really wanted to engage in a serious scientific debate they could easily fund for the study to be replicated in order to verify or counter the data legitimately. Of course LACS has no interest in this. I suspect because there’s far too high a risk that the results would demonstrate that when foxes are shot, they are not all killed as cleanly as is portrayed by the LACS and that wounding followed by starvation is an inevitably." So no. Shooting is not more humane. A | |||
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"Going to sit this one out.. I fecking hate basil brush " You forgot the Boom Boom | |||
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"fox hunting is like the forums. your ripped apart by a bunch of people up their own arseholes while everyone else stands around enjoying it to fit in." This.
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"One shot one kill? Expert marksman? Where are such master marksmen verses in ‘humanely’ shooting animals? Recreationally hunting my son, that’s where they are. Deer stalking, rabbit shooting, rat shooting, grouse shooting, just blowing stuff away with rifle, shot gun and air gun. "And grey squirrels, they’re killing our native reds | |||
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"May the sounds of hounds never die.. During a drag hunt of course, which is all we do nowadays. I’m not posh and I’m not a thug. My whole family hunt, shoot and fish. We are all passionate about our countryside and our animals "Couldn’t agree more. They are also those who help maintain the countryside, hedgerows etc | |||
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"May the sounds of hounds never die.. During a drag hunt of course, which is all we do nowadays. I’m not posh and I’m not a thug. My whole family hunt, shoot and fish. We are all passionate about our countryside and our animals "Same here | |||
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"May the sounds of hounds never die.. During a drag hunt of course, which is all we do nowadays. I’m not posh and I’m not a thug. My whole family hunt, shoot and fish. We are all passionate about our countryside and our animals
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" True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes. Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ? Once they are trapped they are destroyed, usually by shooting. No point in passing the problem on. " Also, it's illegal to release trapped vermin. (Wildlife and Countryside act, 1984) | |||
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"I had a slice of game pie some English cheese and a glass of port. "Not sure about the port but you can't go wrong with a nice game pie. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now." Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world' About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify. I am completely against hunting with dogs as a celebratory sport and wiping blood on kids cheeks. But not against humane vermin and pest control. People that can't see the difference on either side have an issue. As always it's the rabid for and antis that are the problem and the issue. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world' About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify. I am completely against hunting with dogs as a celebratory sport and wiping blood on kids cheeks. But not against humane vermin and pest control. People that can't see the difference on either side have an issue. As always it's the rabid for and antis that are the problem and the issue. " David Bellamy turned pro hunting with hounds after he spent time researching it. Also there are no red coats on the hunting field and "blooding in" does not exist. Hunts now have to work within the law. It's a class war as hunting people wrongly are deemed as rich and privileged. The countryside has serious issue with people who were born in rural areas unable to afford to buy a home and rents are crazy. The countryside is a huge food factory and without meat,cereal and vegetables being produced we will need to import more and Brexit will push food costs up. Hunts do help with social supply and rural jobs. They help support feed murchants, vets, farriers and local pubs. | |||
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"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry? Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends. Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals. Using dogs to hunt rats or rabbits is totally legal. Falconers most certainly do hunt animals, especially using birds such as Harris Hawks (although to be pedantic, someone flying a hawk should rightly be called an austringer. " Animal control with dogs ie rats and rabbits is not "hunting". It's pest control. | |||
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"Look am not for it but if you wish to hunt you should able to do and how you wish . Number will always need controlled as leaving the population unchecked only create more suffering for a large number of animals without apex predator controlling numbers. The price of freedom.." Why do it the most cruel way instead of more humain? It's because of the sickos "enjoyment" The animals they predate are usually domestic animals heading to an abittoir or to be shot by toffs | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world' About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify. I am completely against hunting with dogs as a celebratory sport and wiping blood on kids cheeks. But not against humane vermin and pest control. People that can't see the difference on either side have an issue. As always it's the rabid for and antis that are the problem and the issue. David Bellamy turned pro hunting with hounds after he spent time researching it. Also there are no red coats on the hunting field and "blooding in" does not exist. Hunts now have to work within the law. It's a class war as hunting people wrongly are deemed as rich and privileged. The countryside has serious issue with people who were born in rural areas unable to afford to buy a home and rents are crazy. The countryside is a huge food factory and without meat,cereal and vegetables being produced we will need to import more and Brexit will push food costs up. Hunts do help with social supply and rural jobs. They help support feed murchants, vets, farriers and local pubs. " The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt. Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world' About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify. I am completely against hunting with dogs as a celebratory sport and wiping blood on kids cheeks. But not against humane vermin and pest control. People that can't see the difference on either side have an issue. As always it's the rabid for and antis that are the problem and the issue. David Bellamy turned pro hunting with hounds after he spent time researching it. Also there are no red coats on the hunting field and "blooding in" does not exist. Hunts now have to work within the law. It's a class war as hunting people wrongly are deemed as rich and privileged. The countryside has serious issue with people who were born in rural areas unable to afford to buy a home and rents are crazy. The countryside is a huge food factory and without meat,cereal and vegetables being produced we will need to import more and Brexit will push food costs up. Hunts do help with social supply and rural jobs. They help support feed murchants, vets, farriers and local pubs. The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt. Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts" No red on hunts and no bloodung in. You mean now when that's illegal or ever, the latter I have seen and was appalled by first hand, one of the, sickest things I have ever seen. Any arguments about supporting the local community are utter tosh to justify the vile sport. | |||
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"If any animal needs to be culled due to over population, damage to livestock, crops etc. It should be done cleanly & humanely by a expert marksman. One shot one kill. Not chased till it drops & the ripped apart by dogs owned by rich inbred twats who think they are better than the working man. " There is no legally required test of marksmanship for anyone who wants to shoot live quarry. I have seen a fox shot at 50m with a .223 rifle. It broke the foxes back but didn't kill it. The fox was dispatched by the shooter cruelly stamping on it's neck. He no longer has a firearm certificate. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world' About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify. I am completely against hunting with dogs as a celebratory sport and wiping blood on kids cheeks. But not against humane vermin and pest control. People that can't see the difference on either side have an issue. As always it's the rabid for and antis that are the problem and the issue. David Bellamy turned pro hunting with hounds after he spent time researching it. Also there are no red coats on the hunting field and "blooding in" does not exist. Hunts now have to work within the law. It's a class war as hunting people wrongly are deemed as rich and privileged. The countryside has serious issue with people who were born in rural areas unable to afford to buy a home and rents are crazy. The countryside is a huge food factory and without meat,cereal and vegetables being produced we will need to import more and Brexit will push food costs up. Hunts do help with social supply and rural jobs. They help support feed murchants, vets, farriers and local pubs. The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt. Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts No red on hunts and no bloodung in. You mean now when that's illegal or ever, the latter I have seen and was appalled by first hand, one of the, sickest things I have ever seen. Any arguments about supporting the local community are utter tosh to justify the vile sport. " Hunting pink I think you will find is the colour and not all hunts wear this colour it's easier to count buttons to denote the people in charge. See there is alot more too it than just a pack of hounds and people on horse back. | |||
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"Law does nothing about it. Saw a thing the other day something like "if a gang of teenagers on bikes were chasing a fox with staffies the police would be all over it" Sick blood sport. " Good point. | |||
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"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control. There's humane methods though mate Fox hunting is just sick If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now. Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world' About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify. I am completely against hunting with dogs as a celebratory sport and wiping blood on kids cheeks. But not against humane vermin and pest control. People that can't see the difference on either side have an issue. As always it's the rabid for and antis that are the problem and the issue. David Bellamy turned pro hunting with hounds after he spent time researching it. Also there are no red coats on the hunting field and "blooding in" does not exist. Hunts now have to work within the law. It's a class war as hunting people wrongly are deemed as rich and privileged. The countryside has serious issue with people who were born in rural areas unable to afford to buy a home and rents are crazy. The countryside is a huge food factory and without meat,cereal and vegetables being produced we will need to import more and Brexit will push food costs up. Hunts do help with social supply and rural jobs. They help support feed murchants, vets, farriers and local pubs. The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt. Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts No red on hunts and no bloodung in. You mean now when that's illegal or ever, the latter I have seen and was appalled by first hand, one of the, sickest things I have ever seen. Any arguments about supporting the local community are utter tosh to justify the vile sport. Hunting pink I think you will find is the colour and not all hunts wear this colour it's easier to count buttons to denote the people in charge. See there is alot more too it than just a pack of hounds and people on horse back. " It’s still scarlet. And yes I do know that some hunts wear other colours; green, mustard or whatever and I do know to count the buttons, how pathetic like working in mcDonalds and earning your stars. I just. Ever knew there was a Mcfox sandwich | |||
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