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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
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Numbers old chap, numbers.
Women aren’t afraid of upsetting men as it won’t harm their chances. Men don’t don’t have the same luxury. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think either is right tbf. Everyone should have the right to go about their fab business without criticism or shame.
Fwiw, it's a shame that different genders get different responses to similar situations. I always try and be objective regardless. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We don't all think it's acceptable. The amount of threads by women, criticising men, compared to men criticising women doesn't reflect the demograph on Fab.
Maybe because men don't want to upset women and women don't give a shit. Or women are naturally more nasty and moany than men.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not acceptable but it happens. Women get away with it because they think they can/aren't as challenged on shitty views as men are - fewer women than men. "
This is pretty much it. Also not all women on here are like that. Just like general everyday situations some people are just hostile and is just in their nature. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"It's not acceptable but it happens. Women get away with it because they think they can/aren't as challenged on shitty views as men are - fewer women than men.
This is pretty much it. Also not all women on here are like that. Just like general everyday situations some people are just hostile and is just in their nature. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Numbers old chap, numbers.
Women aren’t afraid of upsetting men as it won’t harm their chances. Men don’t don’t have the same luxury. "
Men do upset women on here though (me being one) and I have seen women body shamed and criticised to. It happens to us all. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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Couldn't care less if you have tits or a dick.
Nobody is superior based on gender and I'll gladly treat both the same.
It's just numbers that make it seem uneven, but there are probably more men not helping their own cause by sucking up to some women when they'd be better served being honest and disagreeing with them. Never in the history of fab has a white knight snaffled themselves a shag by sucking up in the forums...trust me.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
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Lots of women criticise other women on here too and that's not right either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t think it’s acceptabke to slag off men. There’s a thread going at the moment that slagging off a willy and the op is getting a telling off for it. |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
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Don't forget the sacred couples starting threads about men who can't perform.......
Thankfully they get shot down quite quickly though.
We don't start threads criticising women or we'd never get a shag.
Them the breaks..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Couldn't care less if you have tits or a dick.
Nobody is superior based on gender and I'll gladly treat both the same.
It's just numbers that make it seem uneven, but there are probably more men not helping their own cause by sucking up to some women when they'd be better served being honest and disagreeing with them. Never in the history of fab has a white knight snaffled themselves a shag by sucking up in the forums...trust me.
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I shag all the white knights. Forums are my hunting ground. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Couldn't care less if you have tits or a dick.
Nobody is superior based on gender and I'll gladly treat both the same.
It's just numbers that make it seem uneven, but there are probably more men not helping their own cause by sucking up to some women when they'd be better served being honest and disagreeing with them. Never in the history of fab has a white knight snaffled themselves a shag by sucking up in the forums...trust me.
A"
The sucking up on the forums gets to another level sometimes.
Flirting is one thing- or a bit of banter, but some comments are uncomfortable to read. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I see everyone critising everyone mostly of late! Same sex and opposite. Shut up! Nobody asked you, you're always sticking your beak in. "
Oh ffs, I wanted to fix that spelling mistake asshole ! |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"I see everyone critising everyone mostly of late! Same sex and opposite. Shut up! Nobody asked you, you're always sticking your beak in.
Oh ffs, I wanted to fix that spelling mistake asshole !" Snooze you lose |
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As people have said...
If you have a vagina and have a go at men, you'll still have a long queue of men wanting to fuck you.
If you don't have a vagina and have a go at women, your slim chances will get slimmer.
It will also be thus as long as men vastly outnumber women on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Don't forget the sacred couples starting threads about men who can't perform.......
Thankfully they get shot down quite quickly though.
We don't start threads criticising women or we'd never get a shag.
Them the breaks....."
Occasionally, a man with the confidence to do it has done. There's fireworks on those threads; mostly because of the wording. |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Don't forget the sacred couples starting threads about men who can't perform.......
Thankfully they get shot down quite quickly though.
We don't start threads criticising women or we'd never get a shag.
Them the breaks.....
Occasionally, a man with the confidence to do it has done. There's fireworks on those threads; mostly because of the wording. "
Or a man who doesn't really worry about getting a shag. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Don't forget the sacred couples starting threads about men who can't perform.......
Thankfully they get shot down quite quickly though.
We don't start threads criticising women or we'd never get a shag.
Them the breaks.....
Occasionally, a man with the confidence to do it has done. There's fireworks on those threads; mostly because of the wording.
Or a man who doesn't really worry about getting a shag. "
'Cos he's a stud who gets it away from the forums. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Men can say what they want
It doesn't bother me.
If you saw the messages women get may be you would understand how women complain so much
If I get treated like dirt I will treat like dirt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Men can say what they want
It doesn't bother me.
If you saw the messages women get may be you would understand how women complain so much
If I get treated like dirt I will treat like dirt "
Agreed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"its not really aceptable for anybody to criticise anyone ....
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But many people think it's quite acceptable and have no thought for anyone else or their feelings which is why it always goes on... |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Don't forget the sacred couples starting threads about men who can't perform.......
Thankfully they get shot down quite quickly though.
We don't start threads criticising women or we'd never get a shag.
Them the breaks.....
Occasionally, a man with the confidence to do it has done. There's fireworks on those threads; mostly because of the wording.
Or a man who doesn't really worry about getting a shag.
'Cos he's a stud who gets it away from the forums. "
There is that possibility.....
Not me obvs...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Regardless of who it is that's doing it. It should earn them an automatic ban from the site. Will start ing out the bastard especially if they have paid a subscription |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Don't forget the sacred couples starting threads about men who can't perform.......
Thankfully they get shot down quite quickly though.
We don't start threads criticising women or we'd never get a shag.
Them the breaks.....
Occasionally, a man with the confidence to do it has done. There's fireworks on those threads; mostly because of the wording.
Or a man who doesn't really worry about getting a shag.
'Cos he's a stud who gets it away from the forums. " Obviously, you can't rely on this site alone. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Couldn't care less if you have tits or a dick.
Nobody is superior based on gender and I'll gladly treat both the same.
It's just numbers that make it seem uneven, but there are probably more men not helping their own cause by sucking up to some women when they'd be better served being honest and disagreeing with them. Never in the history of fab has a white knight snaffled themselves a shag by sucking up in the forums...trust me.
A
The sucking up on the forums gets to another level sometimes.
Flirting is one thing- or a bit of banter, but some comments are uncomfortable to read. "
Yep.
It's always been the same. From both genders. There'll always be flirting - fuck me - I was as guilty as any back in the day. But the depth to which tongues dive into arseholes in the hope of gaining brownie points has certainly increased.
The simple fact remains that some feel superior because of looks, cock size, tit size or apparent 'popularity' in the forums. Others think that because their inboxes are overflowing they can afford to put others down without affecting their chances of a meet. Some couples think singles don't belong in the world of swinging, so see men as easy targets of disdain.
There's no pecking order. No rank of superiority. Those that think they're above others will one day find themselves on the recieving end of the same treatment they dish out. And any guy who puts up with being treated as a second class citizen in pursuit of a shag has nobody to blame but himself.
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored " Harsh but fair I think. |
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BUT....I do believe it is acceptable to challenge anyone on their behaviour, male or female, and there is plenty of unacceptable behaviour on fab, from both sexes.
And yes, more women will all agree a certain behaviour is wrong, whereas the white knights will simply ignore it to chance their arm. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Men can say what they want
It doesn't bother me.
If you saw the messages women get may be you would understand how women complain so much
If I get treated like dirt I will treat like dirt "
You’re extrapolating a few shitty messages to be a reflection on the majority of men. How can that be right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s all good
I very proud of my limp two inches
I will need to see photographic evidence to be sure this is the case Fireman Sam "
I’m not gonna lie.
It’s impressive.
You will need a life jacket handy, there’s a danger you could drown in your own knickers |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other! "
Critique is fine. It should be welcomed. I agree though.
Some people instantly take things personal or misinterpret something that is said. Some people make sweeping generalisations. Some people get very rude and hostile over things. And some people do all of the above and feel the need to shout about it sometimes quite aggressive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's never acceptable OP. Anyone who criticises or belittles another can never be sure what impact it has whether female or male.
It also speaks volumes about the person doing it and how they might be during a meet. Take it as an early warning signal to decide if it's a risk worth taking. |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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"It’s all good
I very proud of my limp two inches
I will need to see photographic evidence to be sure this is the case Fireman Sam
I’m not gonna lie.
It’s impressive.
You will need a life jacket handy, there’s a danger you could drown in your own knickers "
Because you pee yourself with laughter. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"It’s all good
I very proud of my limp two inches
I will need to see photographic evidence to be sure this is the case Fireman Sam
I’m not gonna lie.
It’s impressive.
You will need a life jacket handy, there’s a danger you could drown in your own knickers "
I’m willing to take my chances |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored "
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz |
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"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other! "
Yup. Belittling is a different matter, that's never necessary and I do actually feel men do that more on fab, every thread from a guy complaining he can't get a meet from the fat munters he wouldn't look at down the pub does that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s all good
I very proud of my limp two inches
I will need to see photographic evidence to be sure this is the case Fireman Sam
I’m not gonna lie.
It’s impressive.
You will need a life jacket handy, there’s a danger you could drown in your own knickers
Because you pee yourself with laughter."
*Says Meli whilst wringing hers out* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"its not really aceptable for anybody to criticise anyone ....
But many people think it's quite acceptable and have no thought for anyone else or their feelings which is why it always goes on..."
It's funny that you say that as people were quick to criticise Hooves on her threads recently. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think its acceptable for women to criticise men just because they are men or vise versa. However some behavior needs challenging. Having said that sometimes its easy to misunderstand someone's point or get the wrong impression of someone. Iv been guilty this a few times. I think the key is, its perfectly possible to strongly disagree with someone and put your point across without deliberately try to Shame, belittle or offend. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I can take criticism from a few people in my life. But not strangers on a web forum. How do you really know anyone on text alone. Your a better person than me "
Those are the people I don't care what they say about me. |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz" Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other! "
I'm open to criticism if it isn't borne out of anger, jealousy, spite or revenge.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored Harsh but fair I think."
Why is that harsh?
My mother told me I was a arrogant child that challenged teachers and any authority figure...
If I wanted to be anything in life , I need to learn how to respect my elders and learn from their life experience....
This was harsh but true |
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"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other!
Yup. Belittling is a different matter, that's never necessary and I do actually feel men do that more on fab, every thread from a guy complaining he can't get a meet from the fat munters he wouldn't look at down the pub does that. "
My local status updates are often a wall of, err, not very nice things about women. It's a useful filter sometimes, and my block list is enormous. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here."
I do great for a middle aged fat bird |
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"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other!
I'm open to criticism if it isn't borne out of anger, jealousy, spite or revenge.
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True. Hard to know in this context. |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored Harsh but fair I think.
Why is that harsh?
My mother told me I was a arrogant child that challenged teachers and any authority figure...
If I wanted to be anything in life , I need to learn how to respect my elders and learn from their life experience....
This was harsh but true "
Don't play dumb Bigboy. |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here.
I do great for a middle aged fat bird " I rest my case |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz"
No white Knight, but she is a legit model....
I know exceptional black guys that know her before she had the baby.....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other!
I'm open to criticism if it isn't borne out of anger, jealousy, spite or revenge.
True. Hard to know in this context. "
Men (and some women) tend to make abusive remarks about women's physical appearance on here. Women (and some men) tend to moan about men's behaviour. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here.
I do great for a middle aged fat bird "
https://youtu.be/GFDzQD-LR80
Xx
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"its not really aceptable for anybody to criticise anyone ....
But many people think it's quite acceptable and have no thought for anyone else or their feelings which is why it always goes on...
It's funny that you say that as people were quick to criticise Hooves on her threads recently. "
So true. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here.
I do great for a middle aged fat bird I rest my case "
Away from here too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here.
I do great for a middle aged fat bird "
But you don’t take yourself seriously and you know how to tell jokes... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here.
I do great for a middle aged fat bird
https://youtu.be/GFDzQD-LR80
Xx
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I'll have to listen to that later, when I'm in bed x |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here.
I do great for a middle aged fat bird
But you don’t take yourself seriously and you know how to tell jokes..." Yeah personality goes a long way. |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that."
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"The power some women get on here I think goes to their heads.
It's not out of turn for me to say in the real world some of these women wouldn't get a look in with these men. On here they are looked up to like some super model.
Once they log off ,It's back to being ignored
Says a web cam girl. Mega lolz Come on though. Jo Brand would go down a storm on here.
I do great for a middle aged fat bird
But you don’t take yourself seriously and you know how to tell jokes..."
Laugh them into bed then they fall in lust with my sexual skills |
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"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other!
I'm open to criticism if it isn't borne out of anger, jealousy, spite or revenge.
True. Hard to know in this context.
Men (and some women) tend to make abusive remarks about women's physical appearance on here. Women (and some men) tend to moan about men's behaviour. "
Yup, that's the difference I see, one is behaviour the other is personal identity and much nearer the bone. |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right"
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk." |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that."
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Because men, centuries ago were (and some presently of course) total assholes does not mean women need to use that voice to give out the same abuse for the sake of it.
Continuing the "it happened in the past" theme, should it not make more sense that women try to remove forms of abuse instead of Contributing to it.
It is possible for women to have and use that voice without resorting to dishing out abuse at all.
Nobody should - that is the point the majority of us here are saying. We don't all have to get along but we can do so without being hostile and throwing insults and abuse. |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk." "
Agree with that ... just hate the justification that some have toward their behaviour being well "x" had been doing this to "y" for centuries |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
" I disagree with your original premise that it is fine for women to criticise men on here. The biggest sin of all isn't not being able to take what is dished. The biggest sin is unabashed arrogance.
Anyway- if you dish it, you need to be able to take it. |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk."
Agree with that ... just hate the justification that some have toward their behaviour being well "x" had been doing this to "y" for centuries "
I'll agree with that.
I rarely say it, particularly not making it personal, but I do wonder if guys think "huh, maybe this is what women are complaining about. It sucks, doesn't it? And they have to put up with it everywhere, not just on one website" |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk."
Agree with that ... just hate the justification that some have toward their behaviour being well "x" had been doing this to "y" for centuries "
Do certain races in this world also have to be put into servitude to make reparation for the wrongs of their ancestors ... be it the British Raj in India ... or slavery ... or how native Americans were treated?
Learn from past wrongs and make the world better ... don't dish the same back because you can |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk."
Agree with that ... just hate the justification that some have toward their behaviour being well "x" had been doing this to "y" for centuries
Do certain races in this world also have to be put into servitude to make reparation for the wrongs of their ancestors ... be it the British Raj in India ... or slavery ... or how native Americans were treated?
Learn from past wrongs and make the world better ... don't dish the same back because you can"
This is exactly my view too. |
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I received a message off someone the other day thanking me for the fabs on her pics only to have her follow it up with calling me ugly. Completely unprovoked too, I just blocked her and left it at that. |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk."
Agree with that ... just hate the justification that some have toward their behaviour being well "x" had been doing this to "y" for centuries
Do certain races in this world also have to be put into servitude to make reparation for the wrongs of their ancestors ... be it the British Raj in India ... or slavery ... or how native Americans were treated?
Learn from past wrongs and make the world better ... don't dish the same back because you can
This is exactly my view too. "
I'm not dishing anything. I'm just not sympathetic when they act like certain crap, that men have been telling me isn't a big deal since I was prepubescent, is the end of the world. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"I received a message off someone the other day thanking me for the fabs on her pics only to have her follow it up with calling me ugly. Completely unprovoked too, I just blocked her and left it at that."
I hope you went back and unfabbed them.
That'll show her.
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk."
Agree with that ... just hate the justification that some have toward their behaviour being well "x" had been doing this to "y" for centuries
Do certain races in this world also have to be put into servitude to make reparation for the wrongs of their ancestors ... be it the British Raj in India ... or slavery ... or how native Americans were treated?
Learn from past wrongs and make the world better ... don't dish the same back because you can
This is exactly my view too.
I'm not dishing anything. I'm just not sympathetic when they act like certain crap, that men have been telling me isn't a big deal since I was prepubescent, is the end of the world. "
Sorry if you misunderstood ... I wasn't saying you were in particular ... it was a general comment about both justifying behaviour because others did it to them |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a dong" |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right"
Very true but this isn't about wrong or right. If we collectively believed that we would be Angels |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
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As one female member here said..everything here stinks of despair. She was referring to men on fabs and she was totally right.
It's sad how many men pathetically crawl in online communities just to get something. Of course some women see this and behave like they do.
So the thing you are asking developed mostly from that.
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
As one female member here said..everything here stinks of despair. She was referring to men on fabs and she was totally right.
It's sad how many men pathetically crawl in online communities just to get something. Of course some women see this and behave like they do.
So the thing you are asking developed mostly from that.
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Is that including yourself? |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
As one female member here said..everything here stinks of despair. She was referring to men on fabs and she was totally right.
It's sad how many men pathetically crawl in online communities just to get something. Of course some women see this and behave like they do.
So the thing you are asking developed mostly from that.
Is that including yourself? "
Luckily no |
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"BUT....I do believe it is acceptable to challenge anyone on their behaviour, male or female, and there is plenty of unacceptable behaviour on fab, from both sexes.
And yes, more women will all agree a certain behaviour is wrong, whereas the white knights will simply ignore it to chance their arm."
I've been trying to behave unacceptably for over 2 years and It's still not happened! |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Lots of women criticise other women on here too and that's not right either."
Weren't you criticising Hooves on her thread the other day for being positive about her body? |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
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It's not just on here mate.
A work colleague of mine went to a job and the woman there spoke to him like a piece of shit because he had the audacity to defend himself,she put in a complaint and the company I work for put him on a final warning.
Even though he did absolutely nothing wrong and was not rude to her !
In my humble opinion the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction in terms of equality.
It should be dead center. |
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"I don't think either is right tbf. Everyone should have the right to go about their fab business without criticism or shame.
Fwiw, it's a shame that different genders get different responses to similar situations. I always try and be objective regardless."
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that."
This is what feminist programming gets us.
Some idiotic sense of whacktivism combined with childish revenge motives. |
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I'd say the reason is pretty basic and goes back to the ratio of men:women on here.
Guys have to compete to speak to any woman really, where as women of all shapes and sizes have the power therefore can speak their mind. Guys don't wanna put any women off by being perceived as nasty.
Fab is different from most walks of life. Best not to take seriously. |
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"God boys stop fucking moaning. The females of our species have been abused by the males for centuries and now they have a voice to take some of that abuse back. The sum of abuse men take here doesn't come close to that.
2 wrongs don't make a right
No. But sometimes I do see men moaning about some things here and think "when you can handle that with the grace and maturity society demands of a ten year old girl, come back to me and we'll talk."
Agree with that ... just hate the justification that some have toward their behaviour being well "x" had been doing this to "y" for centuries
Do certain races in this world also have to be put into servitude to make reparation for the wrongs of their ancestors ... be it the British Raj in India ... or slavery ... or how native Americans were treated?
Learn from past wrongs and make the world better ... don't dish the same back because you can
This is exactly my view too.
I'm not dishing anything. I'm just not sympathetic when they act like certain crap, that men have been telling me isn't a big deal since I was prepubescent, is the end of the world. "
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This thread really got derailed fast haha. How did we end up talking about sexism, patriarchy revenge and whatever other shit.
Really i was just talking about attitudes on this site and nothing deeper.
There are some really bitter replies though. And some reasonable ones too. Interesting. |
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"This thread really got derailed fast haha. How did we end up talking about sexism, patriarchy revenge and whatever other shit.
Really i was just talking about attitudes on this site and nothing deeper.
There are some really bitter replies though. And some reasonable ones too. Interesting."
A lot of threads get derailed into people's own personal agendas |
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"This thread really got derailed fast haha. How did we end up talking about sexism, patriarchy revenge and whatever other shit.
Really i was just talking about attitudes on this site and nothing deeper.
There are some really bitter replies though. And some reasonable ones too. Interesting."
It may not have gone the way you hoped OP but it’s an interesting read just the same. Funny how people justify things and how others seem to forget that we have read their previous posts on other threads
I maintain that it is unacceptable and unnecessary no matter what gender you are I’m sure everyone can afford to be a little nicer |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
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Men are a fault unto themselves. So are some women. But your probably only reading the forums, and generalisation is rife on here. |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Men are a fault unto themselves. So are some women. But your probably only reading the forums, and generalisation is rife on here. "
So ALL men are a fault, but just some women?!
To be honest I never see the point in threads like these. There are good and bad in all walks of life. It’s your choice how you react. |
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Its been this way since i can remember.
Does it make it right? Absolutley not, jumped up keyboard warriors, its full of them...
But those that criticise are of course perfect in everyway. its an ugly trait. |
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"So - one thing I’ve noticed on here.... It seems to be fine for women to criticise men and belittle them. But if the reverse is done it’s the absolute biggest sin of all. In fact, I don’t really think I’ve seen it happen in the reverse that often.
Why is that?
Men are a fault unto themselves. So are some women. But your probably only reading the forums, and generalisation is rife on here.
So ALL men are a fault, but just some women?!
To be honest I never see the point in threads like these. There are good and bad in all walks of life. It’s your choice how you react. "
I agree with these ‘them and us’ threads. (Men v women). Far too many times does the thread meander away from the initial point and turn into a way to justify why each member personally treats the opposite sex a certain way on Fab.
I don’t message because im always ignored... etc |
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"It’s not acceptable or necessary. "
I thought we were talking about criticism rather than abuse. Criticism is how we learn and how we get better.
Criticism is okay, so long as it's constructive. Otherwise it's abuse and that can't be tolerated. |
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"It’s not acceptable or necessary.
I thought we were talking about criticism rather than abuse. Criticism is how we learn and how we get better.
Criticism is okay, so long as it's constructive. Otherwise it's abuse and that can't be tolerated. "
What if someone is adept at saying borderline abusive things in a crowd friendly way?
"I'm not misandrist but...." |
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"It’s not acceptable or necessary.
I thought we were talking about criticism rather than abuse. Criticism is how we learn and how we get better.
Criticism is okay, so long as it's constructive. Otherwise it's abuse and that can't be tolerated. "
Some people have trouble telling the two apart. Which is where a lot of this stems from - then there are of course the people to just love to be abusive in everything they do. |
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''Criticism is how we learn and how we get better''
very much depends who's giving it ?? who has a rights to ?? family close friends yeah ok can accept that ..but stranger's on a clicky forum where most think they are the best and above the rest... erm no chance |
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Blimey! Enjoyed reading this thread.
"I think everyone should be able to criticise everyone. Some behaviour isn't acceptable and we should talk about who does what and why. We might even learn about each other!
I'm open to criticism if it isn't borne out of anger, jealousy, spite or revenge.
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^ Bingo ^
Forums are great to learn about each other. |
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"It’s not acceptable or necessary.
I thought we were talking about criticism rather than abuse. Criticism is how we learn and how we get better.
Criticism is okay, so long as it's constructive. Otherwise it's abuse and that can't be tolerated. "
The OP referred to belittling as well as criticism and women doing that to men so I have interpreted it in that context.
There is such a thing as constructive criticism obviously, would you find that on here? On occasion yes, but do you really want a group of strangers on a sex site to criticise you? I’m not sure how constructive that would be. Who knows. |
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I have on many occasions called out women on thread's where they have said a comment that everyone has ignored,but if a male had said it ww3 would have broken out.
An example of double standards.
In the thread said female commented on if a guy had a small penis and said if a guy had a cock the size of a button mushroom and so on..
Very derogatory and frankly rude.
Problem is the white Knights and hopefuls who always side with the female no matter how vile the comments,how good-looking or not the female is they think that it will look good on them siding with the female in the hope of a shag or maybe other who may like their sycophantic nature.
I think if a few guy's grew a backbone and actually started calling women out on their comments it may not happen so much.
Ironically all this about equality and so on.
And in the real world in India thousands of women are protesting for real reasons and genuinely deserve equality with men.
Whilst on fabs, forum go into meltdown if a guy dare use the f word in a post.
Fat !! Omg
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