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They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere... |
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By *afadaoMan
over a year ago
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"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere..."
Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe |
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"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere...
Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe "
Plus, not knowing who exactly is responsible, the drones could contain explosives or bacterial agents creating even more chaos |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere...
Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe
Plus, not knowing who exactly is responsible, the drones could contain explosives or bacterial agents creating even more chaos "
Capturing who is responsible whilst in flight would allow collection of forensic evidence.
Just shooting it down allows the pilot to claim "oh it got hijacked when I was flying it but didn't bother reporting the fact as the police are too busy to deal with theft".
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"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere..."
Safety distance for a clay ground is @275yards. I think Gatwick has the space. It's more a matter of opportunity. Could be done safely from a helicopter above at @ 50m, shooting down, but these drones are highly manoueverable and if the operator sees a chopper up they are unlikely to fly the drone. |
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"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere...
Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe "
A shotgun's maximum effective range is only about 40 meters, and the pellets will all drop within 120 meters, no matter what angle they're fired at. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"one flew over our farm during the summer i shot it down"
Then you are lucky you didn't lose your certificate over it as the law states you have no right to the airspace above your property. Personally I think that is shit and you should be able to, but you can't under current law. |
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They are flying too high.
A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..
Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.
There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.
I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market. |
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"They are flying too high.
A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..
Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.
There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.
I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market. "
What shotgun are you shooting that has a range of 200 meters?  If you use a sabot slug you might get 150 meters, but horribly inaccurate at that distance. |
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The shotgun is ineffective.
A sniper would be more effective but a high velocity round would strike the drone then fly off in any direction.
If you hit a large target, the energy from the round is largely dissipated. For a drone, it would damage / disable it but the round would continue to travel. There's the issue. |
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"They are flying too high.
A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..
Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.
There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.
I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market.
What shotgun are you shooting that has a range of 200 meters? If you use a sabot slug you might get 150 meters, but horribly inaccurate at that distance."
Current in service assault shotguns have a range of up to 200m (not effective), however the recoil from those high velocity rounds would make hitting a target impossible. They are used for breaching and not designed for anything else..
There are no weapons designed for taking out Drones beyond medium to large missile systems which is not going to be deployed in London.
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.
Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!
Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone. |
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"Everyone is assuming they're going to shoot it down when the chances are they'll just use an ECM and jam the signal to it so it falls out of the sky  "
ECM kit is available and offered, but it's not licensed for UK use. They might want to review that sharpish! |
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"They are flying too high.
A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..
Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.
There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.
I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market.
What shotgun are you shooting that has a range of 200 meters? If you use a sabot slug you might get 150 meters, but horribly inaccurate at that distance.
Current in service assault shotguns have a range of up to 200m (not effective), however the recoil from those high velocity rounds would make hitting a target impossible. They are used for breaching and not designed for anything else..
There are no weapons designed for taking out Drones beyond medium to large missile systems which is not going to be deployed in London.
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Not so. There are launchers, a bit like baton guns that fire cartridges containing nets that spread out and entangle the drone. I doubt your average Police armoury has them though.....yet. |
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"On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.
Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!
Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone."
I wish they'd find them. Why disrupt things and put people's lives in danger at any time... but at Christmas... 
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It did make me laugh when a reporter on the radio announced that they had been given the go ahead to shoot them down. He slipped it in that if this had happened in Israel it would of been shot down within the first 5 minutes. |
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"On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.
Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!
Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone.
I wish they'd find them. Why disrupt things and put people's lives in danger at any time... but at Christmas...
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It's got people talking though |
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"On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.
Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!
Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone.
I wish they'd find them. Why disrupt things and put people's lives in danger at any time... but at Christmas...
It's got people talking though "
The Russians are doing it  |
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