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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill "Depends how keen you are to see them again  | |||
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"I always pay if its a meal. Not a question for debate. If we go for drinks after, maybe can accept some of those." I always pay, wouldn’t have it any other way | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill "The man or he isn't. | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't. "What if it's two people of the same gender? | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't.
What if it's two people of the same gender? "Haha, well you've got me there  I guess the butch one, and before you say what if, I have no idea | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand." Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill "This is why I only date men with chauvinist qualities then I dont have to bother taking cash out! | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
Depends how keen you are to see them again "If the person your seeing is that obsessed with you paying then give them a pass on another date. Someone who is keen or had manners would always split it . | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't.
What if it's two people of the same gender?
Haha, well you've got me there I guess the butch one, and before you say what if, I have no idea "I understand why etiquette and manners exist, it's to avoid embarrassment and to make social interaction easier and smoother. I do think though that in a changing world manners and etiquette should evolve with it. I genuinely believe that the sooner we start treating each other as equal beings. That doesn't mean rigidly sticking to sharing everything but to just respecting each other, opening a door if it makes things easier for someone, paying half a bill without offending someone's masculinity etc | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't.
What if it's two people of the same gender?
Haha, well you've got me there I guess the butch one, and before you say what if, I have no idea
I understand why etiquette and manners exist, it's to avoid embarrassment and to make social interaction easier and smoother. I do think though that in a changing world manners and etiquette should evolve with it. I genuinely believe that the sooner we start treating each other as equal beings. That doesn't mean rigidly sticking to sharing everything but to just respecting each other, opening a door if it makes things easier for someone, paying half a bill without offending someone's masculinity etc"Until I'm paid the same as my male colleague my purse is staying in my bag. Chauvinists apply within please | |||
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"I always pay if its a meal. Not a question for debate. If we go for drinks after, maybe can accept some of those." I need to add a caveat on this. Just because I would pay doesn't imply would expect anything in return. Hmmmm | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. " Totally agree. | |||
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"I'm. A gent never let the lady pay even if it don't work out. " Totally agree | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't.
What if it's two people of the same gender?
Haha, well you've got me there I guess the butch one, and before you say what if, I have no idea
I understand why etiquette and manners exist, it's to avoid embarrassment and to make social interaction easier and smoother. I do think though that in a changing world manners and etiquette should evolve with it. I genuinely believe that the sooner we start treating each other as equal beings. That doesn't mean rigidly sticking to sharing everything but to just respecting each other, opening a door if it makes things easier for someone, paying half a bill without offending someone's masculinity etc
Until I'm paid the same as my male colleague my purse is staying in my bag.
Chauvinists apply within please"I am paid the same as my male colleagues who do the same job as me. | |||
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"I'd always insist on paying even if the dates not gone well. If it's gone good hopefully the night is still young in witch case I'd say you can buy me a drink where we off too? Cocktails "Back to mine, the drinks are free  | |||
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"I always pay if its a meal. Not a question for debate. If we go for drinks after, maybe can accept some of those. I always pay, wouldn’t have it any other way" What if the person you were meeting wanted it 'their way'? Personally I'm perfectly capable of paying my own way unless I was specifically being taken out by a loved one, however allowing a total stranger to pay would create all sorts of issues around entitlement! | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills?" No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when | |||
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"I'd always insist on paying even if the dates not gone well. If it's gone good hopefully the night is still young in witch case I'd say you can buy me a drink where we off too? Cocktails
Back to mine, the drinks are free "So glad I picked up the bill just the answer I was hoping for | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when " Would you feel emasculated if a woman insisted on paying the whole bill? | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill "Gentleman should pay...  | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when " I understand what you're saying, I even understand that a guy paying can make a woman feel "special" and a man feel "manly". I personally think it's time we moved away from that especially in swinging and casual sex where I think all genders should play on a level field. I also understand the offering expecting to be refused dance. | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when Would you feel emasculated if a woman insisted on paying the whole bill?" Actually I would, if she's insistent I'd suggest we split it, wouldn't argue about it but definitely would not except her paying the whole bill. | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't.
What if it's two people of the same gender?
Haha, well you've got me there I guess the butch one, and before you say what if, I have no idea
I understand why etiquette and manners exist, it's to avoid embarrassment and to make social interaction easier and smoother. I do think though that in a changing world manners and etiquette should evolve with it. I genuinely believe that the sooner we start treating each other as equal beings. That doesn't mean rigidly sticking to sharing everything but to just respecting each other, opening a door if it makes things easier for someone, paying half a bill without offending someone's masculinity etc
Until I'm paid the same as my male colleague my purse is staying in my bag.
Chauvinists apply within please"Hmmm. How good is your cooking? | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when I understand what you're saying, I even understand that a guy paying can make a woman feel "special" and a man feel "manly". I personally think it's time we moved away from that especially in swinging and casual sex where I think all genders should play on a level field. I also understand the offering expecting to be refused dance. " I meant to go on to say that insisting that you would always pay the bill but thinking it says something about the woman if she doesn't actually offer is sending out a confused message. It's as if you insist on paying but if she accepts she's a gold digger unless she makes an insincere offer to split the bill  | |||
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"When taking someone out, I always go to Macdonalds drive thru, and I reverse drive so it's on the passengers side to pay "Plan! | |||
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"When taking someone out, I always go to Macdonalds drive thru, and I reverse drive so it's on the passengers side to pay " | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when I understand what you're saying, I even understand that a guy paying can make a woman feel "special" and a man feel "manly". I personally think it's time we moved away from that especially in swinging and casual sex where I think all genders should play on a level field. I also understand the offering expecting to be refused dance. " I'm not sure we should move away from it. I think it makes an interesting debate so thanks op but I like the tradition and don't think it's sexist or unequal in any way. Now a woman expecting the man to pick up the bill, that's different. In the case of a couple, I don't know. I've not had that experience, yet I suppose I'd suggest we go dutch or split it 3 ways | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't.
What if it's two people of the same gender?
Haha, well you've got me there I guess the butch one, and before you say what if, I have no idea
I understand why etiquette and manners exist, it's to avoid embarrassment and to make social interaction easier and smoother. I do think though that in a changing world manners and etiquette should evolve with it. I genuinely believe that the sooner we start treating each other as equal beings. That doesn't mean rigidly sticking to sharing everything but to just respecting each other, opening a door if it makes things easier for someone, paying half a bill without offending someone's masculinity etc
Until I'm paid the same as my male colleague my purse is staying in my bag.
Chauvinists apply within please"What if you're paid more than the person you're on a date with? Chivalry isn't, never has been and never will have about money. | |||
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"When you meet someone for dinner or something else, should it be split or is it the one who contact you that should? I reckon both should pay half the bill
The man or he isn't.
What if it's two people of the same gender?
Haha, well you've got me there I guess the butch one, and before you say what if, I have no idea
I understand why etiquette and manners exist, it's to avoid embarrassment and to make social interaction easier and smoother. I do think though that in a changing world manners and etiquette should evolve with it. I genuinely believe that the sooner we start treating each other as equal beings. That doesn't mean rigidly sticking to sharing everything but to just respecting each other, opening a door if it makes things easier for someone, paying half a bill without offending someone's masculinity etc
Until I'm paid the same as my male colleague my purse is staying in my bag.
Chauvinists apply within please
What if you're paid more than the person you're on a date with?
Chivalry isn't, never has been and never will have about money. " | |||
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" I meant to go on to say that insisting that you would always pay the bill but thinking it says something about the woman if she doesn't actually offer is sending out a confused message. It's as if you insist on paying but if she accepts she's a gold digger unless she makes an insincere offer to split the bill "I don't insist from the start so I'm not really sending out any message throughout the date in regards to that. It's when the bill arrives, it's the dance that happens and it can tell you a bit about the person as has everything else during the time. Body language, responces etc... they are all part of the personality. Not all occasions do they have to offer to pay either. You can usually tell when you've been used for a free dinner token. When a man offers to pay, take it as a compliment even if you're not that into him. It's those occasions when you know you're not going to be seeing him again although he's as keen as mustard that you probably should offer to pay half. Occasionally at that split offer I've realised I'm probably not getting a second date and I'd still offer to pay the lot if I've enjoyed myself and similarly I've got the bill without her saying anything and I've not been taken for a freebie. It's different in every situation, | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills?" Part of yes. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. Totally agree. " Just the modern man’s get out of jail card  | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? Part of yes. " The mark of a gentleman is that he might offer to pay but acquieces politely if the female offers to pay or contribute to the payment. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. Totally agree. Just the modern man’s get out of jail card "Why is he in jail in the first place? Women work and earn just as much. | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when I understand what you're saying, I even understand that a guy paying can make a woman feel "special" and a man feel "manly". I personally think it's time we moved away from that especially in swinging and casual sex where I think all genders should play on a level field. I also understand the offering expecting to be refused dance. " It’s an informative dance | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when I understand what you're saying, I even understand that a guy paying can make a woman feel "special" and a man feel "manly". I personally think it's time we moved away from that especially in swinging and casual sex where I think all genders should play on a level field. I also understand the offering expecting to be refused dance. It’s an informative dance" So it seems. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. Just the modern man’s get out of jail card
Why is he in jail in the first place? Women work and earn just as much. "Earnings are irrelevant..it’s about giving respect and showing old fashioned manners to a woman. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. Just the modern man’s get out of jail card
Why is he in jail in the first place? Women work and earn just as much.
Earnings are irrelevant..it’s about giving respect and showing old fashioned manners to a woman.
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. Just the modern man’s get out of jail card
Why is he in jail in the first place? Women work and earn just as much.
Earnings are irrelevant..it’s about giving respect and showing old fashioned manners to a woman.
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand." Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? " Because (subconsciously), he expects the woman will 'pay' later | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? Because (subconsciously), he expects the woman will 'pay' later "As with most things today zero effort Everything expected from today’s gifted generation. It’s just a good old fashioned mark of respect. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? Because (subconsciously), he expects the woman will 'pay' later
As with most things today zero effort
Everything expected from today’s gifted generation.
It’s just a good old fashioned mark of respect."Nice cliche, now as I suggested could you articulate why it is respectful ? | |||
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"I take a calculator. Always split the bill. I'm not an escort. " Is that truely how it would make you feel if say we went for lunch and I paid for it? | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? Because (subconsciously), he expects the woman will 'pay' later
As with most things today zero effort
Everything expected from today’s gifted generation.
It’s just a good old fashioned mark of respect.
Nice cliche, now as I suggested could you articulate why it is respectful ?"Just a side note The ladies I generally would meet , certainly the ones I date , and all of my friends would NOT see it as respect and some could articulate why they may even find it disrespectful All of them indeed would find it old fashioned you are right there A work house for children and no vote for women are also old fashioned no idea of its relevance here though ? | |||
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"Split. This isn't dating. " He didn't specify if he meant from here or not. Would you pay for everything for someone you met from a dating site? | |||
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"Split. This isn't dating. He didn't specify if he meant from here or not. Would you pay for everything for someone you met from a dating site? " I stand corrected! | |||
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"I take a calculator. Always split the bill. I'm not an escort. Is that truely how it would make you feel if say we went for lunch and I paid for it? " You wouldn't pay for it. You'd respect my wishes and go halves. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? Because (subconsciously), he expects the woman will 'pay' later
As with most things today zero effort
Everything expected from today’s gifted generation.
It’s just a good old fashioned mark of respect."It's really only a mark of respect when the man offers to pay rather than insisting which seems to be the position of some contributors to this thread. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? Because (subconsciously), he expects the woman will 'pay' later
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Everything expected from today’s gifted generation.
It’s just a good old fashioned mark of respect.
It's really only a mark of respect when the man offers to pay rather than insisting which seems to be the position of some contributors to this thread."It’s personal choice and just shows how much people use equality when it suits. | |||
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"There's so much weirdness around money. With friends we usually take turns ( taking into account each others financial position ) With a date or a meet I would offer to split the bill or take it in turns getting drinks etc .. Anyone that is overly conscious about money shouldn't go for meals etc .. it just makes it embarassing if someone gets a calculator out or makes it into a big deal "Oh god yes I hate that when it’s like well I didn’t have a starter or I didn’t have this etc. Just split it between how many of you there are or pay your own share simples! | |||
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"There's so much weirdness around money. With friends we usually take turns ( taking into account each others financial position ) With a date or a meet I would offer to split the bill or take it in turns getting drinks etc .. Anyone that is overly conscious about money shouldn't go for meals etc .. it just makes it embarassing if someone gets a calculator out or makes it into a big deal
Oh god yes I hate that when it’s like well I didn’t have a starter or I didn’t have this etc. Just split it between how many of you there are or pay your own share simples!
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Chivalry ? I wonder if any of the men with,their chests puffed out can actually explain why I woman does not deserve the respect that being considered an equal party ? I wonder if they could articulate without cliche (manners , it's right, chivalry tradition) why in their opinion the man should pay ? Because (subconsciously), he expects the woman will 'pay' later
As with most things today zero effort
Everything expected from today’s gifted generation.
It’s just a good old fashioned mark of respect.
It's really only a mark of respect when the man offers to pay rather than insisting which seems to be the position of some contributors to this thread.
It’s personal choice and just shows how much people use equality when it suits."Sorry you've lost me with that response. Men 'insisting' on paying are imposing their will on individuals who might prefer to pay, therefore removing their choice, nothing whatsoever to do with equality or any other social agenda. | |||
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"Must be an age thing or just today’s men are tight. Chivalry died with today’s generation, mind you the gold digger is also a more recent appearance so can sort of understand. Blame the feminists, you can’t pick and choose equality. " Get back in your box...... Not ONE word of anything above is based on one piece of fact | |||
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"So the mark of a gentleman is that he pays the bills? No it's not, paying the bill on a first date does not mean you will carry them for the rest of their days, it doesn't even mean you'll get the next one. For me it's about showing I've appreciated the time, enjoyed the date. But even if I haven't I suppose I like to show I'm generous and perhaps a bit of the I am man, I provide (caveman ancestry) if that makes sense. Now if she doesn't offer to split it (even though I won't accept the offer) that may say something about the lady, not always but you can tell when " Fuck me....... Cavemen did NOT provide. Trust me..... They especially did NOT pay in restaurants. The women you take out are in for one hell of a psychological shite night.... She MUST NOT pay ..... but if she doesn't offer ..... WELL ... you can tell what kind of lady she is. Are you sure you are reading yourself | |||
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"I prefer to be paid for, but it's up to the couple to decide between themselves. There is no law saying anyone should have to pay." Why do you prefer not to pay for food you consume ? | |||
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"If i invite someine out they are my guest and I expect to pay. I'd that disturbs them in any way and they wish to share the costs then it's only polite to take their wishes into account .." Does not disturb me, I'll find a way to cope | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one." Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. | |||
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I have however paid before not only for drinks and food but also hotel bills and the man ( note not gentleman ) hasn't offered a penny. In these cases another meet is never on the cards. | |||
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"Oh, and the amount of guys on fab here who have taken me out for a meal? 1. And he did it coz i was on a downer and was being nice and didn't even do it for sexual reasons. So yeah my reply was probably a moot point for fabswingers, any socials i've had have been drinks that i paid for myself. I'm in a relationship and not desperate for a fuck, am looking more for a regular fuck buddy to trust and socialise with. I'm doing the hotwaife/cuckold thing, and i'd like to be the hotwife type who gets taken out and dated. So i don't even care and won't get arrested for wanting or particiapting in that." Love your new avatar btw, you look very pretty. I enjoy being treated. When I was in partnership with my (now ex) husband, I probably earned more of our income, but he always went to the bar or paid the bill. Just feels right to me. If someone earns way more than me and wants me to join him in an evening/event/whatever that I could not afford, that is his perogative, I will graciously accept, I would do the same the other way round. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually." I've asked my ex and my parents if they want to go for a meal and I've paid the full bill. Even drove so they could have a drink! I will admit I've never asked a guy out but only because I've never had the chance. I've either had my friends set me up with their husbands friend or I've done the real internet dating sites, whereas I've always had messages waiting for me to reply too. On fab, at times I've done the searching and asked guys out for a social...I paid for the drinks. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually." This is the point. If men paid whenever they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. " I doubt the feminists would ask men out too.
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. " Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you." But we want sex | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. But we want sex "Buy a sex robot doll. Hire an escort. Buy sex toys. Ann summers isn't only a friend to the ladies | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. But we want sex
Buy a sex robot doll. Hire an escort. Buy sex toys. Ann summers isn't only a friend to the ladies "Nothing beats the real thing. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you." I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though! | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. But we want sex
Buy a sex robot doll. Hire an escort. Buy sex toys. Ann summers isn't only a friend to the ladies "Not when I can get the real thing! | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though! "Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem. "Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me. I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill. I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again. We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years). | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years). "So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply. "No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above. It’s just dinner: no more, no less. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less. "I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing. "I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex. Haha we are indeed . | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing. "There are a lot of argumentative so and so’s on here who will just enjoy arguing for the sake of it, its best to ignore those characters! | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?"Probably. But that really has nothing to do with whose bought dinner. I’ve had sex with people who’ve bought me dinner! I just think it’s quite dangerous to link buying dinner (or anything else financial) to sex. It’s not a big step from that to “I’ve bought you dinner, therefore you owe me sex”. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?"He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
Probably. But that really has nothing to do with whose bought dinner. I’ve had sex with people who’ve bought me dinner!
I just think it’s quite dangerous to link buying dinner (or anything else financial) to sex. It’s not a big step from that to “I’ve bought you dinner, therefore you owe me sex”. "I agree to an extent about the whole feeling obliged or being expectant but then I genuinely don't see the issue with a guy or a woman wanting to pay for dinner and if the other person feels obligated or entitled then the problem really is with them as individuals. I've had guys by me dinner or drinks sometimes it's lead to more sometimes it hasn't but the paying in itself doesn't come into it. I haven't worded that very well but I hope you understand what I mean. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed. "Exactly. I don’t get how people don’t get this!  | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed.
Exactly. I don’t get how people don’t get this! "Some women do. If sex happens then happy days but I wouldn't feel entitled to it. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
Probably. But that really has nothing to do with whose bought dinner. I’ve had sex with people who’ve bought me dinner!
I just think it’s quite dangerous to link buying dinner (or anything else financial) to sex. It’s not a big step from that to “I’ve bought you dinner, therefore you owe me sex”.
I agree to an extent about the whole feeling obliged or being expectant but then I genuinely don't see the issue with a guy or a woman wanting to pay for dinner and if the other person feels obligated or entitled then the problem really is with them as individuals. I've had guys by me dinner or drinks sometimes it's lead to more sometimes it hasn't but the paying in itself doesn't come into it. I haven't worded that very well but I hope you understand what I mean. "Kind of... Maybe we are slightly talking at cross purposes. I have no issue if people want to pay, but I don’t think I’d want to date someone who felt it was my duty to pay because otherwise they’d be having sex for free... The quid pro quo to that attitude is the entitlement I mentioned above. That’s certainly not an attitude I recognise from the people I’ve dated (all of whom earn their own money and expect a partnership of equals). I don’t think there’s any link between paying for dinner and getting sex (or not). | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed.
Exactly. I don’t get how people don’t get this! Some women do. If sex happens then happy days but I wouldn't feel entitled to it. "No I know. Nobody should feel entitled to it but I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. Blimey if I thought about it this much it’d be time to go home! He offers to pay I then offer to pay half, sometimes he accepts sometimes he doesn’t. It’s really not rocket science | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed.
Exactly. I don’t get how people don’t get this! " | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed. "Just so you know, I will be buying you dinner (I owe you dinner), I won’t be expecting you to put out . | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed.
Exactly. I don’t get how people don’t get this! Some women do. If sex happens then happy days but I wouldn't feel entitled to it.
No I know. Nobody should feel entitled to it but I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. Blimey if I thought about it this much it’d be time to go home! He offers to pay I then offer to pay half, sometimes he accepts sometimes he doesn’t. It’s really not rocket science "I didn't say it was and actually I'm entitled to an opinion. If you don't agree with my comment that's absolutely fine but you don't need to try making belittling comments like it's not rocket science. | |||
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"Cant help imagining being the waiter standing with the bill while this debate rages on !"That’s what I was thinking! | |||
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"Cant help imagining being the waiter standing with the bill while this debate rages on !
That’s what I was thinking! "Funny how it’s never this difficult in the real world isn’t it!? | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed.
Exactly. I don’t get how people don’t get this! Some women do. If sex happens then happy days but I wouldn't feel entitled to it.
No I know. Nobody should feel entitled to it but I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. Blimey if I thought about it this much it’d be time to go home! He offers to pay I then offer to pay half, sometimes he accepts sometimes he doesn’t. It’s really not rocket science
I didn't say it was and actually I'm entitled to an opinion. If you don't agree with my comment that's absolutely fine but you don't need to try making belittling comments like it's not rocket science. "Wow ok
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"Cant help imagining being the waiter standing with the bill while this debate rages on !
That’s what I was thinking! "Think I'd have probably just took it out my own tips and wished them well on their escapades by now! | |||
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"Cant help imagining being the waiter standing with the bill while this debate rages on !
That’s what I was thinking! "stop being ridiculous and actually so offensive I'm entitled to an opinion and I don't expect bitching nasty comments. | |||
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"If a date invites me out to dinner , then sorry but I would expect he's paying. Reason being he's asked me out. I'll be his guest, so I don't think it's right to make your guest pay anything. If your guests / date offers to pay for themselves, then that's fair though. When I've asked men on here if they want to meet me for a social in Starbucks etc, I've paid for both our drinks. There's been times he has arrived early and had brought the drink instead. I'd buy the second drink if he wants one. Yeah but how often do women ask men out? The men have to take the initiative usually. This is the point. If men paid every time they asked a woman out, they would be paying virtually every time. Then stop asking lots of women out. It's perfectly fine to stay single and not even date. Take time out and please yourself. You never know a woman may find you. I’m aware it’s ok to be single and I’m in no rush. I’ve been dating for years. The women I tend to date (and the ones I’ve met from fab so far) tend not to expect the guy to pay for everything and often want to split the bill. They also invariably expect the guy to show the initiative and do the asking out. Thanks for the relationship advice though!
Its all turning a bit ugly again. If I guy wants to buy a woman (or the other way round) diner/drinks and she/he wants to accept I understand the problem.
Is it? Seems like a reasonable discussion to me.
I often pay for the first meal, but not always. The majority of women I meet offer to split the bill.
I don’t normally suggest dinner unless I’ve at least met them over a drink first. I’m far more inclined to pay for someone I want to see again.
We can only speak from our own experience, that’s mine (and I’ve been dating for years).
So earlier when a very nasty comment was made and you said it wasn't a financial transaction! But you would pay if you wanted to meet again. I think that's a very big contradiction from what you were saying earlier. I appreciate it wasn't you that made the particularly nasty comment and I wasn't suggesting it was you I was just referring back to it regarding your reply.
No contradiction. If I buy a woman dinner I certainly don’t think that entitles me to sex. That was the “financial transaction” I was referring to which seemed to be implied above.
It’s just dinner: no more, no less.
I appreciate it's not exactly the same but it's still a contradiction in my opinion. We are getting quite good at this whole having different opinions and arguing about stuff thing.
I guess if I like someone, want to impress them, I’m more inclined to want to pay. But that’s simply because I want to see them again, not because it will necessarily lead to sex.
Haha we are indeed .
no ultimately if you like the person is that not where it's going to end up leading anyway?
He means he will do it because he enjoys their company and not doing it to impress them into bed.
Just so you know, I will be buying you dinner (I owe you dinner), I won’t be expecting you to put out . "Thank you and I appreciate the friendship. You listen to my problems on a daily basis and I thank you for that x | |||
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