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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
  Hows that for control!! |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!"
Doesn't surprise me though...  |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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"That's the UN migration Pact. Will only be for the Countries that sign up to it on 12th December. A lot of EU member states have turned it down. "
I'm not surprised, it's so blatant! Shut the media down if they criticize, jeeesh?!!! |
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So far Hungary Poland Italy Slovakia USA Israel have refused the pact. Slovenia is holding a referendum for the people to decide.
It goes much further than sensoring the press. It means the UN will be giving out Visa's to the 3Rd world. Effectively making illegal migration legal and disposing of any kind of visa system |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!"
Well seeing as the media have used rhetoric when talking about migration similar to Nazi Germany talking about jews. I am not shocked really, it was coming. |
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Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is. |
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Australia are refusing to sign it saying that it undermines borders and "the Compact fails to adequately distinguish between people who enter Australia illegally and those who come to Australia the right way, particularly with respect to the provision of welfare and other benefits," |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is. "
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today. |
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Hungary are demanding answers from the UN and EU after finding pre paid debit cards on Illegal migrants supplied to them by the UN.
This is social dumping tbh |
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Migration is a repeat of the Ottoman Empire that led to a huge European war.
Hence Hungary has dug it heels in. Has been there before and not going down that path again |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today. "
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour win the next election then I'll start to panic. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic. "
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
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Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal. |
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You mean the Nazis that were defeated by nationalists from around the globe?
Every army is full of nationalists that are willing to die for their country. Nationalism has delivered the freedom you enjoy today
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"You mean the Nazis that were defeated by nationalists from around the globe?
Every army is full of nationalists that are willing to die for their country. Nationalism has delivered the freedom you enjoy today
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It was a joint effort. If only one nation stood against Germany it would have lost. It was pride of we we are humans and the atrocities being carried out we do not agree with. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal. "
In a nation where the majority of people do not dictate the vote (some states have more people) trump wasn't voted in by majority people but majority of states. Hence the back lash. Clinton can go to jail all those who break laws go to jail its pretty simple. He did not win fair and square otherwise the whole new data protection act that has sweeped the western world recently and the fact facebook went to court due to how Russia used its interface to effect the US elections would not have come to pass. |
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Like blowing children up at a concert or running them down with a truck.
Does not make a person a Nazi to discuss the issues of migration. Especially when horrendous act of atrocities are being committed by migrants 1st 2nd or even 3rd generations |
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"Like blowing children up at a concert or running them down with a truck.
Does not make a person a Nazi to discuss the issues of migration. Especially when horrendous act of atrocities are being committed by migrants 1st 2nd or even 3rd generations"
You're clutching at straws as I did not call anyone a Nazi. I said when the media use rhetoric similar to that of Nazi Germany I am not surprised this new act is in place. There is a difference |
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Freedom of speech is a corner stone of democracy.
You do realise the concentration camps the Nazis used were built by the socialists to imprison nationalists?
So when you get down to it. The rise of the Nazi was directly a result of liberalism and curtailing the nation's basic rights of freedom of speech.
It's a slippery slope. The liberals are fueling division and only want predetermined approved conversations to take place. That is also know as facsism |
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"Freedom of speech is a corner stone of democracy.
You do realise the concentration camps the Nazis used were built by the socialists to imprison nationalists?
So when you get down to it. The rise of the Nazi was directly a result of liberalism and curtailing the nation's basic rights of freedom of speech.
It's a slippery slope. The liberals are fueling division and only want predetermined approved conversations to take place. That is also know as facsism"
So are you saying because the UN stops your freedom of speech you're going to have to start a concentration camp in your local YMCA gym. See I can clutch at straws too.
Wait and are you saying every concentration camp the germans used they did not build, put the maintenance and pipe works in. Build direct train systems from the Jewish migrant ghettos they created straight into or adjacent to a concentration camp. Yep on that note my middle name is not like and I am not following you down that rabbit hole and I'm off to bed.
Women were not allowed to vote/work and speak out about as their freedoms were stripped. They didnt become violent and had the men instead they protested peacefully now they only need to sort out pay and the masculine air conditioning in work places. Try that route if the UN thing doesnt go your way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You say the wrong thing the UN is going to put you in a concentration camp
You have it backwards. You need to read and understand the migrant pact.
This pact is only going to be signed by a few countries. UK being one of them, it will be flooded. They will need housing healthcare and benefits. You the taxpayer is going to pay for that. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal. "
The name of the party was a flat-out lie. National Socialist German Workers Party - a deliberate attempt to be all things to all people and appeal to anyone who fekt marginalised or let down. Judged on their actions, the Nazis were anything but socialist. |
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"You mean the Nazis that were defeated by nationalists from around the globe?
Every army is full of nationalists that are willing to die for their country. Nationalism has delivered the freedom you enjoy today
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You're describing patriots, not nationalists. |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!"
Just FYI, I've downloaded the text of the Global Compact for migration. The 'quotes' given in the OP aren't in it. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal.
The name of the party was a flat-out lie. National Socialist German Workers Party - a deliberate attempt to be all things to all people and appeal to anyone who fekt marginalised or let down. Judged on their actions, the Nazis were anything but socialist."
Every time there's a proper socialist government, the lefties reply with "that wasn't real scoailism". Whether it's maos china or the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Venezuela or every other anti-capitalist shit hole. They were socialist to the core. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!
Just FYI, I've downloaded the text of the Global Compact for migration. The 'quotes' given in the OP aren't in it."
That was an EU Parliament speaker quoted. |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!"
Absolute rubbish and nothing to do with the EU
Fake news presented as fact.
Funny how no one shouts about the fact that the UK has always had powers (from the EU) to have taken back control of our borders under European Parliament and Council Directive 2004/38/EC, which allows EU member states to repatriate EU nationals after three months if they have not found a job or do not have the means to support themselves.
The UK government has just never undertaken to apply this directive. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!
Just FYI, I've downloaded the text of the Global Compact for migration. The 'quotes' given in the OP aren't in it.
That was an EU Parliament speaker quoted."
And filmed saying those words..... |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!
Just FYI, I've downloaded the text of the Global Compact for migration. The 'quotes' given in the OP aren't in it.
That was an EU Parliament speaker quoted.
And filmed saying those words..... "
Found the clip. It was Marcel de Graaf. He's a member of Geert Wilders Party For Freedom. Far-right nationalist xenophobic populists. Opposed to immigration on principal, particularly when the immigrant doesn't eat pork or has skin darker than weak tea. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal.
The name of the party was a flat-out lie. National Socialist German Workers Party - a deliberate attempt to be all things to all people and appeal to anyone who fekt marginalised or let down. Judged on their actions, the Nazis were anything but socialist.
Every time there's a proper socialist government, the lefties reply with "that wasn't real scoailism". Whether it's maos china or the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Venezuela or every other anti-capitalist shit hole. They were socialist to the core. "
All of the examples you just gave have implemented forms of authoritarian socialism. The Nazis, which we were discussing before you tried to move the goalposts, did not. Socialism requires that industry and production be largely or completely owned/controlled by the workers, the state or society as a whole. The Nazis didn't even go dar enough down that route to create a proper war economy; Britain under Churchill was more socialist than Nazi Germany. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal.
The name of the party was a flat-out lie. National Socialist German Workers Party - a deliberate attempt to be all things to all people and appeal to anyone who fekt marginalised or let down. Judged on their actions, the Nazis were anything but socialist.
Every time there's a proper socialist government, the lefties reply with "that wasn't real scoailism". Whether it's maos china or the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Venezuela or every other anti-capitalist shit hole. They were socialist to the core.
All of the examples you just gave have implemented forms of authoritarian socialism. The Nazis, which we were discussing before you tried to move the goalposts, did not. Socialism requires that industry and production be largely or completely owned/controlled by the workers, the state or society as a whole. The Nazis didn't even go dar enough down that route to create a proper war economy; Britain under Churchill was more socialist than Nazi Germany."
The Nazis didn't last very long! If you actually read their philosophy then it's indisputable that they would only tolerate private ownership temporarily and when it was already doing what the state would have done with those assets anyway. Where it wasn't then they were perfectly happen to seize the assets to use them for the national interest. Socialism 101. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal.
The name of the party was a flat-out lie. National Socialist German Workers Party - a deliberate attempt to be all things to all people and appeal to anyone who fekt marginalised or let down. Judged on their actions, the Nazis were anything but socialist.
Every time there's a proper socialist government, the lefties reply with "that wasn't real scoailism". Whether it's maos china or the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Venezuela or every other anti-capitalist shit hole. They were socialist to the core.
All of the examples you just gave have implemented forms of authoritarian socialism. The Nazis, which we were discussing before you tried to move the goalposts, did not. Socialism requires that industry and production be largely or completely owned/controlled by the workers, the state or society as a whole. The Nazis didn't even go dar enough down that route to create a proper war economy; Britain under Churchill was more socialist than Nazi Germany."
"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy. |
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It's the thin end of the wedge for free speech, not just migration. This type of nonsense by the EU has been a major factor to why Brexit exists, many British people would rather sit in their own mess, than one imposed on them. |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal.
The name of the party was a flat-out lie. National Socialist German Workers Party - a deliberate attempt to be all things to all people and appeal to anyone who fekt marginalised or let down. Judged on their actions, the Nazis were anything but socialist.
Every time there's a proper socialist government, the lefties reply with "that wasn't real scoailism". Whether it's maos china or the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Venezuela or every other anti-capitalist shit hole. They were socialist to the core.
All of the examples you just gave have implemented forms of authoritarian socialism. The Nazis, which we were discussing before you tried to move the goalposts, did not. Socialism requires that industry and production be largely or completely owned/controlled by the workers, the state or society as a whole. The Nazis didn't even go dar enough down that route to create a proper war economy; Britain under Churchill was more socialist than Nazi Germany.
"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy. "
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently. |
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"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy.
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently."
Exactly the same as Jeremy Corbyn then! |
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"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy.
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently.
Exactly the same as Jeremy Corbyn then! "
I'm sorry, was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha!"? I've no love for Corbyn, or Venezuela, or Cuba, or any of the other socialist bogeymen you seem to want to attach to me. Populists of all persuasions are dangerous. That doesn't mean they're all the same. The Nazis weren't socialists, they just dressed up as socialists to lure in the working class. |
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If you are all so pumped up about journalists being gagged then I'm sure you'll all support Mark Lamont Hill who has just been sacked from CNN for calling for a free Palestine
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"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy.
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently.
Exactly the same as Jeremy Corbyn then!
I'm sorry, was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha!"? I've no love for Corbyn, or Venezuela, or Cuba, or any of the other socialist bogeymen you seem to want to attach to me. Populists of all persuasions are dangerous. That doesn't mean they're all the same. The Nazis weren't socialists, they just dressed up as socialists to lure in the working class."
What was unemployment like under the national socialists? |
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"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy.
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently.
Exactly the same as Jeremy Corbyn then!
I'm sorry, was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha!"? I've no love for Corbyn, or Venezuela, or Cuba, or any of the other socialist bogeymen you seem to want to attach to me. Populists of all persuasions are dangerous. That doesn't mean they're all the same. The Nazis weren't socialists, they just dressed up as socialists to lure in the working class."
What bit of Nazism wasn't socialist? |
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"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy.
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently.
Exactly the same as Jeremy Corbyn then!
I'm sorry, was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha!"? I've no love for Corbyn, or Venezuela, or Cuba, or any of the other socialist bogeymen you seem to want to attach to me. Populists of all persuasions are dangerous. That doesn't mean they're all the same. The Nazis weren't socialists, they just dressed up as socialists to lure in the working class.
What bit of Nazism wasn't socialist? "
The fact that they killed and imprisoned socialists and communists. Outlawed trade unions, persecuted and murdered people because of there race religion or sexuality and put the country on a war footing to name a few |
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"Think the issue is more people being called Nazis for discussing the issues that come from migration. Which does not fit the globalist narrative. So now they want to shut it down. Luckily a lot of countries have seen it for what it is.
History repeats itself, before Nazi Germany there were other massacres in the middle east or eastern Europe. All of them fueled through media outlets to stoke the masses. Certain people at the top just don't want history repeating itself especially with advanced tech we have today.
The nazis were anti-capitalists who hated free speech, but won a democratic election. If Labour wins the next election then I'll start to panic.
Have you researched the media build-up to that "democratic election" it's like saying Trump won the democratic election when they were clear evidence of media tampering and falsified information. In case you forgot about the first world war that impoverished Germany due to sanctions and debts they had to pay. The Nazi Germans were fueled nationalist pride as to why they needed to pay the other nations reparations including Britain. Went against signed treaties because of poor ill-informed germans thought as long as they follow Hitler their poverty would end and he would make Germany like it was...he would make Germany great again. When history echo's it's past mistakes, precautions are taken.
Yes the Nazis were nationalists. National socialists in fact. The clue is in the name. In policy they have a lot more in common with the Labour party than Trump. Trump won the election fair and square, Clinton is lucky not to be in jail in case you forgot about her email scandal.
The name of the party was a flat-out lie. National Socialist German Workers Party - a deliberate attempt to be all things to all people and appeal to anyone who fekt marginalised or let down. Judged on their actions, the Nazis were anything but socialist.
Every time there's a proper socialist government, the lefties reply with "that wasn't real scoailism". Whether it's maos china or the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Venezuela or every other anti-capitalist shit hole. They were socialist to the core.
All of the examples you just gave have implemented forms of authoritarian socialism. The Nazis, which we were discussing before you tried to move the goalposts, did not. Socialism requires that industry and production be largely or completely owned/controlled by the workers, the state or society as a whole. The Nazis didn't even go dar enough down that route to create a proper war economy; Britain under Churchill was more socialist than Nazi Germany.
"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy. "
Well choose another quote, Hitler had Strasser killed in the Night of the Long Knives in 1934 for holding such opinions. So hardly indicative of Nazism. |
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"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy.
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently.
Exactly the same as Jeremy Corbyn then!
I'm sorry, was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha!"? I've no love for Corbyn, or Venezuela, or Cuba, or any of the other socialist bogeymen you seem to want to attach to me. Populists of all persuasions are dangerous. That doesn't mean they're all the same. The Nazis weren't socialists, they just dressed up as socialists to lure in the working class.
What bit of Nazism wasn't socialist?
The fact that they killed and imprisoned socialists and communists. Outlawed trade unions, persecuted and murdered people because of there race religion or sexuality and put the country on a war footing to name a few"
Was that all in their manifesto? |
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"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling." - Gregor Strasser
One of many quotes I could have chosen. The idea that the Nazis were right wing is a lie propagated by the left wing academics who loved every bit of their economic policy.
That's the kind of nonsense they pumped out to appeal to unemployed and disaffected workers, and to justify their anti-Semitic policies. When they were talking to business leaders they said the opposite, apart from getting rid of Jews. Like all populists, they said whatever their audience wanted to hear. Their actions say differently.
Exactly the same as Jeremy Corbyn then!
I'm sorry, was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha!"? I've no love for Corbyn, or Venezuela, or Cuba, or any of the other socialist bogeymen you seem to want to attach to me. Populists of all persuasions are dangerous. That doesn't mean they're all the same. The Nazis weren't socialists, they just dressed up as socialists to lure in the working class.
What bit of Nazism wasn't socialist?
The fact that they killed and imprisoned socialists and communists. Outlawed trade unions, persecuted and murdered people because of there race religion or sexuality and put the country on a war footing to name a few
Was that all in their manifesto?"
Manifestos are just the face a party presents to the public. It's their actions in power that tell you their character. |
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"If you are all so pumped up about journalists being gagged then I'm sure you'll all support Mark Lamont Hill who has just been sacked from CNN for calling for a free Palestine
https://goo.gl/images/jHgLQg
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He didn't just call for a free Palestine, he called for a free Palestine "from the river to the sea". That's a code phrase used by Hamas among others - "from the river to the sea" means the entire territory of Israel. Knowingly or unknowingly, he was calling for the Jews of Israel to be driven into the sea. |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!"
omg freedom of speech has ended |
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If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
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"If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
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The quote was accurate, that is what the man said. |
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"If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
The quote was accurate, that is what the man said."
Ok, I didn’t word my response correctly. Whilst the quote itself may have been accurate and attributable to one person, the quote was not attributable to the EU as a whole as asserted. |
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"If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
The quote was accurate, that is what the man said.
Ok, I didn’t word my response correctly. Whilst the quote itself may have been accurate and attributable to one person, the quote was not attributable to the EU as a whole as asserted. "
No, I accepted I was misled in that, it is a UN initiative which several EU countries are signing up to.
This is the clip - I have no idea who all these people are or what their agenda is, I was simply astonished at the implication of the quote I heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySb-BTUa9E |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!"
So glad I voted leave.
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!
So glad I voted leave.
We finally agree on something, Frisky. Have a biscuit on me "
Is it an M&S bisquit?? |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!
So glad I voted leave.
We finally agree on something, Frisky. Have a biscuit on me
Is it an M&S bisquit??"
Not just a biscuit... |
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"The EU is set to criminalize speech that criticizes migration.
“The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
“Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration,can be shut down.“
Hows that for control!!
So glad I voted leave.
We finally agree on something, Frisky. Have a biscuit on me
Is it an M&S bisquit??
Not just a biscuit..."
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"Australia are refusing to sign it saying that it undermines borders and "the Compact fails to adequately distinguish between people who enter Australia illegally and those who come to Australia the right way, particularly with respect to the provision of welfare and other benefits,""
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It's an interesting thought - I've certainly not investigated the ideas/proposals. I hate anyone, or any media outlet, that demonises people who are displaced from the place they've called home, as well as their family and friends - including refugees. The post-Brexit hate that was projected towards EU citizens and others in the UK was abominable.
With climate change seemingly less likely to have its effects mitigated sufficiently to restrain warming to within 1.5 to 2.0 Celsius, there is going to be greater displacement of people around the world, due to inhospitable and crisis conditions. It's important that the world readies itself for global warming catastrophe (I'd prefer the world to be working to limit the damage that humans are imposing on the world but it appears to be a diminishing possibility that enough will be done in time).
I'm certainly in favour of greater media outlet control on the hate that can be fostered towards outsiders though - I'm unsure just what form this would take. |
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"If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
The quote was accurate, that is what the man said.
Ok, I didn’t word my response correctly. Whilst the quote itself may have been accurate and attributable to one person, the quote was not attributable to the EU as a whole as asserted.
No, I accepted I was misled in that, it is a UN initiative which several EU countries are signing up to.
This is the clip - I have no idea who all these people are or what their agenda is, I was simply astonished at the implication of the quote I heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySb-BTUa9E"
That's becsuse the implications of the quote are nonsense. The very unbelievability of what you were hearing should have made tou cautiois about believing it. Instead, you repeated a piece of pure propaganda. |
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The implications of the quota are severe. It means economic migrants can falsely claim asylum in their home countries and be flown into the west. Given housing & benefits.
We have to work hard for our lives. No one should be given it for free. That is not what we pay tax for |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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"If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
The quote was accurate, that is what the man said.
Ok, I didn’t word my response correctly. Whilst the quote itself may have been accurate and attributable to one person, the quote was not attributable to the EU as a whole as asserted.
No, I accepted I was misled in that, it is a UN initiative which several EU countries are signing up to.
This is the clip - I have no idea who all these people are or what their agenda is, I was simply astonished at the implication of the quote I heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySb-BTUa9E
That's becsuse the implications of the quote are nonsense. The very unbelievability of what you were hearing should have made tou cautiois about believing it. Instead, you repeated a piece of pure propaganda."
I find your posting very biased and dogmatic so I certainly won't believe you, I will remain open minded on the matter until it becomes clear over time. People have always denied globalist and federalist intent, and yet it becomes increasingly clear. |
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"If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
The quote was accurate, that is what the man said.
Ok, I didn’t word my response correctly. Whilst the quote itself may have been accurate and attributable to one person, the quote was not attributable to the EU as a whole as asserted.
No, I accepted I was misled in that, it is a UN initiative which several EU countries are signing up to.
This is the clip - I have no idea who all these people are or what their agenda is, I was simply astonished at the implication of the quote I heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySb-BTUa9E
That's becsuse the implications of the quote are nonsense. The very unbelievability of what you were hearing should have made tou cautiois about believing it. Instead, you repeated a piece of pure propaganda.
I find your posting very biased and dogmatic so I certainly won't believe you, I will remain open minded on the matter until it becomes clear over time. People have always denied globalist and federalist intent, and yet it becomes increasingly clear."
The federalist intent was made clear in the Treaty of Rome, which specifically refers to a commitment to “ever closer union”.
We really do agree on this . |
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"If you read the whole thread, you would realise that the thread title of Unbelievable, was more accurate than the text quoted by the OP.
I’m saddened to read threads like this, as the very conflicts referred to, were mostly brought about by stirring up hatred. “Hatred must be learned” and whatever the political divide one is on, there is no place for hate.
The quote was accurate, that is what the man said.
Ok, I didn’t word my response correctly. Whilst the quote itself may have been accurate and attributable to one person, the quote was not attributable to the EU as a whole as asserted.
No, I accepted I was misled in that, it is a UN initiative which several EU countries are signing up to.
This is the clip - I have no idea who all these people are or what their agenda is, I was simply astonished at the implication of the quote I heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySb-BTUa9E
That's becsuse the implications of the quote are nonsense. The very unbelievability of what you were hearing should have made tou cautiois about believing it. Instead, you repeated a piece of pure propaganda.
I find your posting very biased and dogmatic so I certainly won't believe you, I will remain open minded on the matter until it becomes clear over time. People have always denied globalist and federalist intent, and yet it becomes increasingly clear.
The federalist intent was made clear in the Treaty of Rome, which specifically refers to a commitment to “ever closer union”.
We really do agree on this . "
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