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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ? |
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"I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ?"
If only that had been done at the very beginning. |
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"I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ?"
This tribe are known not to welcome outsiders. In fact he broke the law by going there.
From their perspective they were protecting themselves. To be honest, I think it serves him right.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Was this the island near India. Where people have been killed going to it.
And India has made it illegal to land on it.
The only metal on the island was from a ship that was ship wrecked years ago.
No one outside the island knows how many people are on it.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He was very arrogant or misguided to think they should have a religion visited upon them.
They should be left the fuck alone. "
Exactly.
Why is always the religious nut nuts that behave this way?
Leave them alone! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ?"
He didn’t canoe... he was taken out by fishermen  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He didn’t canoe... he was taken out by fishermen
The fishermen towed his canoe and when close he paddled to shore in his canoe"
Ah well only half a report posted originally though, I wasn’t aware they towed him |
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"I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ?"
I don't understand why the god he believed in did not save him  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They ain’t even retrieving his body. You can find his letters home that he gave to the fishermen that got him near the island. He made contact a few times and then let the boat go, then they cane back and saw he was dead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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He knew the risk he was taking and paid the ultimate price. Missionaries like this belong in the 19th Century.
Leave these extraordinary people to live the way they choose, or their culture will be lost forever. |
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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago
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So from the inhabitants point of view this guy was an illegal immigrant and they killed him.
And most people on here support their right to do so.
Wonder if the US border guards will get the same support if they have to shoot a few of those in the "Caravan" attempting to enter the USA? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So from the inhabitants point of view this guy was an illegal immigrant and they killed him.
And most people on here support their right to do so.
Wonder if the US border guards will get the same support if they have to shoot a few of those in the "Caravan" attempting to enter the USA?"
More like he invaded their sovereign territory to force his religion, views, morality and will upon them.  |
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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago
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"So from the inhabitants point of view this guy was an illegal immigrant and they killed him.
And most people on here support their right to do so.
Wonder if the US border guards will get the same support if they have to shoot a few of those in the "Caravan" attempting to enter the USA?
More like he invaded their sovereign territory to force his religion, views, morality and will upon them. "
Possibly your right, good job that will never happen here !!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So from the inhabitants point of view this guy was an illegal immigrant and they killed him.
And most people on here support their right to do so.
Wonder if the US border guards will get the same support if they have to shoot a few of those in the "Caravan" attempting to enter the USA?
More like he invaded their sovereign territory to force his religion, views, morality and will upon them.
Possibly your right, good job that will never happen here !! "
I only briefly skimmed the story - I don't want to get into politics because I'm happy in my bubble
But people forcing their religion will and morality upon others is a very real thing wherever you live.
We just can't shoot them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So from the inhabitants point of view this guy was an illegal immigrant and they killed him.
And most people on here support their right to do so.
Wonder if the US border guards will get the same support if they have to shoot a few of those in the "Caravan" attempting to enter the USA?
More like he invaded their sovereign territory to force his religion, views, morality and will upon them.
Possibly your right, good job that will never happen here !!
I only briefly skimmed the story - I don't want to get into politics because I'm happy in my bubble
But people forcing their religion will and morality upon others is a very real thing wherever you live.
We just can't shoot them "
Well they missed him a few times according to his account, and he was last seen being dragged up and down the sand at the end of a rope, so ya know maybe they didn’t shoot him full of arrows. |
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"Religion should never be bestowed upon anyone.
Got what he deserved"
Actually no he did not
No one deserves to be murdered ! Please remember you are a civilised human and NOT a trump supporter xxx
He should have expected to die
He should not have gone
It is wrong to try and impose a religion
However none of these wrong things deserve death
Are they responsible or culpable for their actions, are they immoral for killing another:human that's a different debate
He however did not deserve to die and they were wrong to take a human life
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The woman who explored the spider infested out back , the man who climbed the impossible mountain
Both died
Both should have expected to die
Neither deserved to die or deserve to be ridiculed for their deaths
Remember our civilised humanity ?
A murder being murdered , a paedophile, a r pist or torturer, all it could be articulated deserve a death
Beyond that a human death is or should be considered a loss ? |
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"I go with majority on this one, not really a murder when you are told not to go there."
I'm an atheist and think Christians who tell me ,it was Christianity and a god that told humans killing is wrong are wrong ?
Are you agreeing with the Christians?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So from the inhabitants point of view this guy was an illegal immigrant and they killed him.
And most people on here support their right to do so.
Wonder if the US border guards will get the same support if they have to shoot a few of those in the "Caravan" attempting to enter the USA?
More like he invaded their sovereign territory to force his religion, views, morality and will upon them. "
Sounds a bit like what has happened in this country ! |
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"So from the inhabitants point of view this guy was an illegal immigrant and they killed him.
And most people on here support their right to do so.
Wonder if the US border guards will get the same support if they have to shoot a few of those in the "Caravan" attempting to enter the USA?
More like he invaded their sovereign territory to force his religion, views, morality and will upon them.
Sounds a bit like what has happened in this country !"
1066 was a long time ago |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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Should leave them be.
Apparently he had been warned not to go there before but chose to ignore advice.
Forcing any religion on any person / group is wrong. We can't go back and correct historic events but people should bloody well know better these days.
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"Should leave them be.
Apparently he had been warned not to go there before but chose to ignore advice.
Forcing any religion on any person / group is wrong. We can't go back and correct historic events but people should bloody well know better these days.
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Indeed fancy writing a newspaper column criticizing Saudi Arabia? Anyone who does so deserves to die! Not just that any right thinking USA president should support such a murder
Again I'll reiterate
His demise was to be expected , it is within context understandable
However humans taking other human life is fundamentally wrong
The Christian was meddling idiot
I sincerely hope humanity fights against supporting the killing of idiots, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Legally, it's at least manslaughter. I don't know much about this case, but the country of the victim could insist under international law that the country who owns the island investigate the case, and bring charges if applicable. The country who own the island may then be forced under IL to legally define how a person can be lawfully murdered just because that person was told he can't go somewhere. |
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"Legally, it's at least manslaughter. I don't know much about this case, but the country of the victim could insist under international law that the country who owns the island investigate the case, and bring charges if applicable. The country who own the island may then be forced under IL to legally define how a person can be lawfully murdered just because that person was told he can't go somewhere."
I certainly do not think , in this case anyone or any tribe or country should be pursued for the action , I'm not even suggesting it should be classed as a crime per se. Only , however idiotic he was death is a severe punishment to wish upon or condone as reasonable x
Next some will say a girl wearing a short skirt deserves to be r ped |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ?
I don't understand why the god he believed in did not save him "
HE was busy..... giving cancer to children |
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"I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ?
I don't understand why the god he believed in did not save him
HE was busy..... giving cancer to children"
Indeed , not only that but one reason we KNOW a god exists is something as complex as life could not come from chance , thus
Malaria , tuberculosis, hiv sars are fiendishly complex . The time taken to meticulously design their every action and consequence must take the Lord one hell of a lot of time to perfect x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Legally, it's at least manslaughter. I don't know much about this case, but the country of the victim could insist under international law that the country who owns the island investigate the case, and bring charges if applicable. The country who own the island may then be forced under IL to legally define how a person can be lawfully murdered just because that person was told he can't go somewhere."
However. You need in most countries that are ‘civilised’ to prove that someone accused of a crime is competent to stand trial.
That means they can communicate, understand what’s happening and be able to make decisions.
Also there are no witness that speak any language that’s understandable.
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"Legally, it's at least manslaughter. I don't know much about this case, but the country of the victim could insist under international law that the country who owns the island investigate the case, and bring charges if applicable. The country who own the island may then be forced under IL to legally define how a person can be lawfully murdered just because that person was told he can't go somewhere.
I certainly do not think , in this case anyone or any tribe or country should be pursued for the action , I'm not even suggesting it should be classed as a crime per se. Only , however idiotic he was death is a severe punishment to wish upon or condone as reasonable x
Next some will say a girl wearing a short skirt deserves to be r ped "
There’s always one I guess ....
Pretty much everyone has said the guy deserved to die . He could have given them diseases they weren’t in a position to cope with . He wanted to convert them to a religion they will have no idea about . He wasn’t invited , he was trespassing despite being told not to go . For all the reasons we’ve looked at , he really did deserve to die . And it’s no great loss . Why defend that ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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He knew the Island existed as he went to a lot of trouble to get himself there. If he had researched even a little bit, he would know that it was illegal to visit the island, both for the protection of the inhabitants and potential visitors.
They keep themselves to themselves and do not impact on others unless they intrude.
They have learnt that if they kill a visitor, no.one will visit again.
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We cannot impose our societal norms upon them just because we don't like it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a group of hippies set up in North Wales and had been there for decades then after 60 years of being self sufficient then would we feel the same way.. if they bumped off an outsider ?"
Your hippie analogy is absurd .They are an uncontacted Stone Age culture.
The sentinelese have been there up to 55,000 years .Its their island and they've made it clear they don't want contact.Respect that and you don't die.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a group of hippies set up in North Wales and had been there for decades then after 60 years of being self sufficient then would we feel the same way.. if they bumped off an outsider ?"
North Wales is not an isolated part of the World, cut off from contact with any developed civilisations and inhabited by wild tribes..........oh, wait!.. |
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"I saw the story about a man who canoed to an island to convert the warlike tribe to Christianity. They have little contact with the outside world. Sadly, some of them killed him. Should the guilty be charged with murder or left to their own way of life ?
This tribe are known not to welcome outsiders. In fact he broke the law by going there.
From their perspective they were protecting themselves. To be honest, I think it serves him right.
Nita"
Agreed. He was warned not to go. It is tragic no doubt but the tribe had no idea who he was plus any cold/virus/disease he may have been carrying would be a danger to them. |
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