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"Humans are very adaptable. Climate change will be gradual and humans will adapt to the changes." Have you glanced at the UN IPCC report? Or just paid attention. Climate change is happening very very quickly and a small change in temy erasure is going to have cataclysmic effects. How will we adapt to say 165million Bangladeshi refugees when their country goes under water? How do you adapt to species extinction and it's impact on the food chain? To water shortage and the social unrest when resources run thin? | |||
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"It’s ok the Americans will save us! "Team america world savers the sequal | |||
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" Is climate change the only thing we should be concerning ourselves with? " Nope just the pure fecking stupidity of a species that thinks that growth can go on for ever in a finite world. | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. " Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next | |||
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"Humans are very adaptable. Climate change will be gradual and humans will adapt to the changes." I reckon planet earth will cope just fine, it's us humans that will struggle to survive the consequences of our reckless consumerism | |||
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"Meh... put some more coal on the fire Ethel" But turn up the air-con in case it gets too hot | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next" How many of those same climate scientists are funded off the back of an ideology centred around the whole global environment spin? | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next" They have to keep themselves in a job somehow I suppose  | |||
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"I do think about it. I wonder how much of our island will disappear or if we really will have another ice age." our island is still changing shape and level as a consequence of the last ice age sheet and isostatic rebound. More interesting is the sawtooth pattern in stadial /interstadial Climate changes, period of calm, then quickly rising temperatures before a steep drop into an ice age. So a good question is, are the temps going up because of global warming or going up as the prelude to global cooling. | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next They have to keep themselves in a job somehow I suppose "You clearly have no idea how science works | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next How many of those same climate scientists are funded off the back of an ideology centred around the whole global environment spin?" Who's interest is it in to 'spin' environmental collapse? And what do they gain by telling such 'lies'? Capitalism and the powers that be have a strong vested interest in keeping everything the same, deny climate change and consume, consume, consume. | |||
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""If you believe in climate change then you should fear it – and I don’t just mean worry about it when you hear the words on the news, I mean dread it, be terrified by it on an existential level, or perhaps a mass extinction level. If you don’t– if you sit and fret about Brexit or Scottish independence more than you do the planet’s rising temperature -–then you may as well be worrying about your mortgage repayments while there’s a killer in your house with a gun at your child’s head." https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17234582.neil-mackay-why-climate-change-should-be-the-only-story-that-matters/ "Of course believe why you want but, climate change is something that happens every few millennia or so. We are just living through that same “change” now, granted as moderately advanced humans we aren’t helping things but it’s not as drastic as the media makes you believe. To quote the fat prick Alex Jones “stay woke folks” | |||
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""If you believe in climate change then you should fear it – and I don’t just mean worry about it when you hear the words on the news, I mean dread it, be terrified by it on an existential level, or perhaps a mass extinction level. If you don’t– if you sit and fret about Brexit or Scottish independence more than you do the planet’s rising temperature -–then you may as well be worrying about your mortgage repayments while there’s a killer in your house with a gun at your child’s head." https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17234582.neil-mackay-why-climate-change-should-be-the-only-story-that-matters/
Of course believe why you want but, climate change is something that happens every few millennia or so. We are just living through that same “change” now, granted as moderately advanced humans we aren’t helping things but it’s not as drastic as the media makes you believe.
To quote the fat prick Alex Jones “stay woke folks”"The media say fuck all. Did you see anything about the UN IPCC report? I chose to believe thousands of climate scientists rather than a Fab forum post or Dave down the pub. | |||
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"" I chose to believe thousands of climate scientists rather than a Fab forum post or Dave down the pub." 'Ere.. don't knock my mate Dave innit... he nos everyfink he dose innit cos he's vewy integni...intelweliw...erm intewect... er. clever .. yeah clever dats it innt | |||
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"No what about the price of fuel, it’s getting ridiculous " .. I don't care because I no longer drive lol | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next They have to keep themselves in a job somehow I suppose
You clearly have no idea how science works"The planet will do whatever it does regardless of us, it’s happened many times before and it will again simple as | |||
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""If you believe in climate change then you should fear it – and I don’t just mean worry about it when you hear the words on the news, I mean dread it, be terrified by it on an existential level, or perhaps a mass extinction level. If you don’t– if you sit and fret about Brexit or Scottish independence more than you do the planet’s rising temperature -–then you may as well be worrying about your mortgage repayments while there’s a killer in your house with a gun at your child’s head." https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17234582.neil-mackay-why-climate-change-should-be-the-only-story-that-matters/
Of course believe why you want but, climate change is something that happens every few millennia or so. We are just living through that same “change” now, granted as moderately advanced humans we aren’t helping things but it’s not as drastic as the media makes you believe.
To quote the fat prick Alex Jones “stay woke folks”"You call yourself "woke"? Which voices are you listening to? | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next They have to keep themselves in a job somehow I suppose
You clearly have no idea how science works
The planet will do whatever it does regardless of us, it’s happened many times before and it will again simple as "No not simple as. You just wish it were. | |||
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"There have been 5 known ice ages. We are about 100,00 years overdue for the next one. I can accept we are contributing to it, but it's going to happen anyway." Total hogwash | |||
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"No what about the price of fuel, it’s getting ridiculous " Well enjoy it while it lasts | |||
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"There have been 5 known ice ages. We are about 100,00 years overdue for the next one. I can accept we are contributing to it, but it's going to happen anyway. Total hogwash " We're saved! You know how to stop an ice age..  | |||
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"There have been 5 known ice ages. We are about 100,00 years overdue for the next one. I can accept we are contributing to it, but it's going to happen anyway. Total hogwash We're saved! You know how to stop an ice age.. "No one's talking about an ice age | |||
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"" I chose to believe thousands of climate scientists rather than a Fab forum post or Dave down the pub. 'Ere.. don't knock my mate Dave innit... he nos everyfink he dose innit cos he's vewy integni...intelweliw...erm intewect... er. clever .. yeah clever dats it innt " maybe he should teach you to type | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next" just like religion that | |||
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"I feel for the op and people like him who get all het up over climate change etc..... because the fact is that most of us don’t give a fuck . And it’s so much easier to not give a fuck . Nothing will change irrespective of how we think or even do . So why waste your time and effort on it ? Pointless ." That's the attitude | |||
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"I feel for the op and people like him who get all het up over climate change etc..... because the fact is that most of us don’t give a fuck . And it’s so much easier to not give a fuck . Nothing will change irrespective of how we think or even do . So why waste your time and effort on it ? Pointless . That's the attitude "Well the thing is , I’m not getting stressed out about something I can’t do anything about . So perhaps my attitude is more than
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"Don't worry be happy, your going to die eventually anyhow! "Exactly | |||
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"There have been 5 known ice ages. We are about 100,00 years overdue for the next one. I can accept we are contributing to it, but it's going to happen anyway." The last one was only 15,000 years ago so don't know where you get 100,000 years overdue? | |||
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"There have been 5 known ice ages. We are about 100,00 years overdue for the next one. I can accept we are contributing to it, but it's going to happen anyway. The last one was only 15,000 years ago so don't know where you get 100,000 years overdue? " . Technically we're still in one, this bit of it is called the Holocene interglacial | |||
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"There have been 5 known ice ages. We are about 100,00 years overdue for the next one. I can accept we are contributing to it, but it's going to happen anyway. The last one was only 15,000 years ago so don't know where you get 100,000 years overdue? . Technically we're still in one, this bit of it is called the Holocene interglacial "You need to get out more lol | |||
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"Don't worry be happy, your going to die eventually anyhow! "That's just a pig headed disgusting attitude As the people who are currently in power of what we put into the atmosphere it's our duty to ensure future generations don't suffer from ignorance shown today. | |||
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"Stop worrying about irrational fears. Focus on and worry instead about that fucking huge meteorite hurtling it’s way to earth to wipe us all out! Sleep tight." Actually one is statistically due, on the earth geological scale that is. | |||
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"Don't worry be happy, your going to die eventually anyhow!
That's just a pig headed disgusting attitude
As the people who are currently in power of what we put into the atmosphere it's our duty to ensure future generations don't suffer from ignorance shown today. "Blimey! I was going to put my input in here, but that needs to be reposted. Well said
We should all be concerned about climate change. It is not looking good at all. | |||
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"There have been 5 known ice ages. We are about 100,00 years overdue for the next one. I can accept we are contributing to it, but it's going to happen anyway. The last one was only 15,000 years ago so don't know where you get 100,000 years overdue? . Technically we're still in one, this bit of it is called the Holocene interglacial
You need to get out more lol ". 5th year geography!. Although your right, I do need to get out more | |||
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"I feel for the op and people like him who get all het up over climate change etc..... because the fact is that most of us don’t give a fuck . And it’s so much easier to not give a fuck . Nothing will change irrespective of how we think or even do . So why waste your time and effort on it ? Pointless ." Man-bear-pig is real, I'm super cereal | |||
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"the planet is changing and always have been changing, yes we can change but it takes the world largest country's to change and help, not the small country's. china india is the main two who pollute. the honest truth is it will be too late when a natural disaster happens again or ice age or major change in the planet, no country listens to the past mistakes on any matter. overpopulation and food sources are the major problem this planet has and will happen i think i read it was by 2025-2030 we wont have enough food to feed everyone as more farms are closing and population is increasing at a alarming rate. anyway we are doomed, no jobs when artificial intelligence takes over, time for war to wipe most off the planet." #bollucks | |||
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""If you believe in climate change then you should fear it – and I don’t just mean worry about it when you hear the words on the news, I mean dread it, be terrified by it on an existential level, or perhaps a mass extinction level. If you don’t– if you sit and fret about Brexit or Scottish independence more than you do the planet’s rising temperature -–then you may as well be worrying about your mortgage repayments while there’s a killer in your house with a gun at your child’s head." https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17234582.neil-mackay-why-climate-change-should-be-the-only-story-that-matters/ "Thanks for the party political broadcast. Just what I wanted while browsing swingers chat. | |||
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"The first ice age was not caused by Fred and Wilma Flintstone driving V8 It's natural and we can do bugger all about it " The last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere homosapiens didn't exist and the oceans were 100 ft higher .Its irrefutable that the extra co2 in the atmosphere is man made as it has completely different isotopic fingerprint than co2 released from natural sources. But hey fuck the science let's use Fred an Wilma and some irrelevant reference to the first ice age when homosapiens weren't even around .. | |||
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"The first ice age was not caused by Fred and Wilma Flintstone driving V8 It's natural and we can do bugger all about it The last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere homosapiens didn't exist and the oceans were 100 ft higher .Its irrefutable that the extra co2 in the atmosphere is man made as it has completely different isotopic fingerprint than co2 released from natural sources. But hey fuck the science let's use Fred an Wilma and some irrelevant reference to the first ice age when homosapiens weren't even around .. "I think that the time to start worrying, is coming | |||
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"The first ice age was not caused by Fred and Wilma Flintstone driving V8 It's natural and we can do bugger all about it " Ah. It’s just natural. Care to share what you know that virtually every climate expert doesn’t know? It’s always amazing that random people on the internet seem to know the most about things.  | |||
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"Climate change is an issue. In part its a natural process but one that has been accelerated by human action. But other concerns should be: Moor's law is falling over as we are reaching the densisty limits on computer chips Rare earth elements are becomming increasingly scarse and expensive. Antibiotic resistance is growing fast. Biodiversity is shrinking fast. Climate change is just one of a number of things to be aware of." The antibiotic thing is actually pretty scary. There was a positive story in the news quite recently though about some new breakthrough. | |||
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"What actually is it about climate change that makes people not believe it or think it’s some sort of hoax, despite the overwhelming consensus of peer reviewed science? Do you also not believe that cancer kills people, or that gravity is a hoax? I hear the Earth is flat too. ". It's not the problem that's the problem, it's the solution!. Good luck with that | |||
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"Climate change has been happening thought out earths history " yes and I'm all for the British climate getting warmer | |||
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"Climate change has been happening thought out earths history yes and I'm all for the British climate getting warmer " Not today here it isn't its freezing. | |||
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"Climate change has been happening thought out earths history yes and I'm all for the British climate getting warmer Not today here it isn't its freezing. "yes but what a great summer | |||
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"What actually is it about climate change that makes people not believe it or think it’s some sort of hoax, despite the overwhelming consensus of peer reviewed science? Do you also not believe that cancer kills people, or that gravity is a hoax? I hear the Earth is flat too. .
It's not the problem that's the problem, it's the solution!.
Good luck with that "Exactly, I'd rather lose a few third world countries than turn vegan | |||
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"What actually is it about climate change that makes people not believe it or think it’s some sort of hoax, despite the overwhelming consensus of peer reviewed science? Do you also not believe that cancer kills people, or that gravity is a hoax? I hear the Earth is flat too. .
It's not the problem that's the problem, it's the solution!.
Good luck with that
Exactly, I'd rather lose a few third world countries than turn vegan "The problem with losing third world countries to climate change is that once the country becomes uninhabitable that population ups sticks and move.They don't wait to die unfortunately.They migrate in their hundreds of millions. | |||
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"Climate change has been happening thought out earths history yes and I'm all for the British climate getting warmer Not today here it isn't its freezing. yes but what a great summer "We are going to have some great summers ahead.Well have the climate of the south of France by mid century and we'll grow some of the best wines in Europe.The French will have a similar climate to North Africa which will make their wine shit!! Win Win!  | |||
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"Climate change is just a hoax "Indeed. The Earth goes through extreme heating and cooling cycles. There have been several ice ages thus far, and obviously the Earth comes out of these and heats up, quite dramatically, until it hits a peak. Then the cooling process begins. It's a repetitive cycle. Now, according to various Governments, we're all to blame for it! And guess what, they're using it to make money with various "green taxes" and "stealth taxes". Who'd have thought... | |||
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"Its bollocks just a tax " What tax? So all the science is wrong? Don’t tell me. It’s all global conspiracy? | |||
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"Climate change is just a hoax
Indeed. The Earth goes through extreme heating and cooling cycles. There have been several ice ages thus far, and obviously the Earth comes out of these and heats up, quite dramatically, until it hits a peak. Then the cooling process begins. It's a repetitive cycle.
Now, according to various Governments, we're all to blame for it! And guess what, they're using it to make money with various "green taxes" and "stealth taxes".
Who'd have thought...
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"Climate change is just a hoax
Indeed. The Earth goes through extreme heating and cooling cycles. There have been several ice ages thus far, and obviously the Earth comes out of these and heats up, quite dramatically, until it hits a peak. Then the cooling process begins. It's a repetitive cycle.
Now, according to various Governments, we're all to blame for it! And guess what, they're using it to make money with various "green taxes" and "stealth taxes".
Who'd have thought...
"No. According to virtually all peer reviews science on the subject. Yes, there have been heating and cooling cycles before, but I suppose it’s a massive coincidence that we’re seeing particularly extreme heating cycle which has coincided with the time since the industrial revolution? | |||
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"I think over population of the planet will be a bigger problem in the future than climate change " Nothing can be done about overpopulation in the short to mid term. That die gas already been cast. But if we don't do anything to stop global warming NOW then we are in deep, deep trouble. | |||
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"What actually is it about climate change that makes people not believe it or think it’s some sort of hoax, despite the overwhelming consensus of peer reviewed science? Do you also not believe that cancer kills people, or that gravity is a hoax? I hear the Earth is flat too. .
It's not the problem that's the problem, it's the solution!.
Good luck with that
Exactly, I'd rather lose a few third world countries than turn vegan "That's a bit of a shitty thing to say. Are you doing it for effect or is that a deeply held view? | |||
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"Climate change has been happening thought out earths history " Not in the space of 30 years it hasn't. And it's accelerating to the point of no return. | |||
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"Well some people always need something to worry about... If it wasnt climate change it would be a meteorite hitting us... And yes it is all about tax and how much cows fart will make no difference" Please read the article in the OP or glance at the UN IPCC report. This isn't speculation. | |||
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""If you believe in climate change then you should fear it – and I don’t just mean worry about it when you hear the words on the news, I mean dread it, be terrified by it on an existential level, or perhaps a mass extinction level. If you don’t– if you sit and fret about Brexit or Scottish independence more than you do the planet’s rising temperature -–then you may as well be worrying about your mortgage repayments while there’s a killer in your house with a gun at your child’s head." https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17234582.neil-mackay-why-climate-change-should-be-the-only-story-that-matters/ "I don’t care. | |||
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"Well some people always need something to worry about... If it wasnt climate change it would be a meteorite hitting us... And yes it is all about tax and how much cows fart will make no difference Please read the article in the OP or glance at the UN IPCC report. This isn't speculation. " Dude the climate deniers are always wilfully ignorant regarding facts and data . A snow storm in march is all It takes for the dribbling minds to scream "climate change is a hoax ". Standard play from the wilfully ignorant loons... | |||
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" A snow storm in march is all It takes for the dribbling minds to scream "climate change is a hoax ". Standard play from the wilfully ignorant loons..." It must be so wonderful to be this intelligent ... | |||
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"I think over population of the planet will be a bigger problem in the future than climate change Nothing can be done about overpopulation in the short to mid term. That die gas already been cast. But if we don't do anything to stop global warming NOW then we are in deep, deep trouble." . Nothing can be done about climate change in that time scale either!. If the science is right there's a 25 year lag on c02 so if we produced zero (which we never will) c02 from now on we've still got the 25 year lag to take into effect (short to mid term). | |||
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"While you are worrying about saving a species then I will be moving to higher ground to save myself... And carrying a case of Fosters with me...." Jesus titty fucking Christ ...fosters....Really ...That explains soooo much. | |||
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"Well some people always need something to worry about... If it wasnt climate change it would be a meteorite hitting us... And yes it is all about tax and how much cows fart will make no difference" A meteorite hitting us is pretty unlikely. Climate change is actually happening! | |||
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"It's not in my remit to decide which animals survive and which go extinct, we all go extinct sooner or later for various reasons. There's some sort of God delusion with socialists where they just can't grasp the reality of life. It's why they've always been hell bent on atheism, they need to destroy God so they can take it's place." Is that what you'll say to future generations when they ask you why you chose not to address climate change? "Well extinction was bound to happen sooner or later". Why not just murder someone and tell their mother "Well they were going to die EVENTUALLY!" | |||
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" A meteorite hitting us is pretty unlikely. Climate change is actually happening!" Most of us may agree on that and there's bugger all we can do.. as I said earlier.. the first one was not caused by Fred Flintstone driving a V8. I will fiddle while Rome burns and leave the vegans to save the planet. The less meat they eat then the more for my table | |||
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"What actually is it about climate change that makes people not believe it or think it’s some sort of hoax, despite the overwhelming consensus of peer reviewed science? Do you also not believe that cancer kills people, or that gravity is a hoax? I hear the Earth is flat too. .
It's not the problem that's the problem, it's the solution!.
Good luck with that
Exactly, I'd rather lose a few third world countries than turn vegan
The problem with losing third world countries to climate change is that once the country becomes uninhabitable that population ups sticks and move.They don't wait to die unfortunately.They migrate in their hundreds of millions.
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"Nobody really gives a fuck about the environment .I mean a whale washed up this week with 6 kg of plastic in its gut and not a fuck is given.We've got to make decision on what species we just let go extinct .The big mammals and predators will be gone in our lifetime but some we might be able to save." Because the lefties were busy this week protesting about M&S knickers and other higher priority concerns | |||
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"Nobody really gives a fuck about the environment .I mean a whale washed up this week with 6 kg of plastic in its gut and not a fuck is given.We've got to make decision on what species we just let go extinct .The big mammals and predators will be gone in our lifetime but some we might be able to save. Because the lefties were busy this week protesting about M&S knickers and other higher priority concerns " The right were to busy this week shooting African animals to mount above the fire place .So they can conserve them for future generations to see.Caring Conservatism at its best.. | |||
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"What actually is it about climate change that makes people not believe it or think it’s some sort of hoax, despite the overwhelming consensus of peer reviewed science? Do you also not believe that cancer kills people, or that gravity is a hoax? I hear the Earth is flat too. .
It's not the problem that's the problem, it's the solution!.
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Exactly, I'd rather lose a few third world countries than turn vegan
The problem with losing third world countries to climate change is that once the country becomes uninhabitable that population ups sticks and move.They don't wait to die unfortunately.They migrate in their hundreds of millions.
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"I think we should be concerned about putting plastic and poision in the ocean, but not climate change. The reason there are different colour humans is so we can survive different climates, we basically spotted this coming what, thousands of years ago? If you built a house where it will flood, that sucks, but the dinosaurs lived where it is desert now, and we didnt do that." You seem concerned about poisoning the ocean which is start. So climate change means more carbon in the atmosphere which is absorbed by the ocean which makes the ocean acidic.Ocean acidification is a greater threat to the oceans ecosystem than plastic and poisons dumped in it. If it continues all corals will go.Theyll basically dissolve.. | |||
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"I don’t believe it, therefore no fear here. I don’t subscribe to forced ideology and propoganda. Propaganda of 6000 climate scientists? You'll be telling me the earth is flat next How many of those same climate scientists are funded off the back of an ideology centred around the whole global environment spin?" You tell us. How many of them are funded off the back of an ideology centred around the whole global environment spin? And how does that change the peer reviewed data? It’s like trying to argue that smoking doesn’t cause cancer because a lot of cancer research is funded by an anti smoking lobby. Ie a complete straw man. | |||
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"Stop worrying about irrational fears. Focus on and worry instead about that fucking huge meteorite hurtling it’s way to earth to wipe us all out! Sleep tight. Actually one is statistically due, on the earth geological scale that is. "They're like buses.... You wait 75 million years and then 2 pop up at the same time! | |||
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"It's not in my remit to decide which animals survive and which go extinct, we all go extinct sooner or later for various reasons. There's some sort of God delusion with socialists where they just can't grasp the reality of life. It's why they've always been hell bent on atheism, they need to destroy God so they can take it's place. Is that what you'll say to future generations when they ask you why you chose not to address climate change? "Well extinction was bound to happen sooner or later". Why not just murder someone and tell their mother "Well they were going to die EVENTUALLY!". Your being pedantic the two are not even remotely the same are they, I mean as a leftist I bet your for abortion right, I don't go round saying because your for abortion why don't you just kill your granny!. Lets say I'll go along with your assumption on climate change and it's a mega bad deal we're going to get? What's your solution, I mean what do we have to do according to the science you keep going on about to stop it? This isn't going to get an answer is it. Lefties never really get past the 'raising awareness' stage of much. They are good with their chants, protests and signs but not so much with the policy if you happen to agree with them. Why is the term ‘leftie’ always bandied about as a derogatory term, as though things like fairness and equality are bad things? I think that’s all a very cliched view to be honest - there are plenty of solutions to plenty of problems." It's the language of the extreme far right knuckle draggers...Some cunts just want to lynch motherfuckers and watch the world burn.. | |||
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"We are at this very moment in time in the middle to end phase of the 5th Ice age on Earth. Our aerosols or exhaust fumes didn't melt the last Four, and they won't melt this one. It will melt, absolutely no doubt, but it's through nature, not Lynx Africa or Chanel No5. No it's not.You just made all that up now didn't you.. "Do you think I made that up Bobdoesntbang? Learn your history my friend, don't just throw random comments. | |||
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"It's not in my remit to decide which animals survive and which go extinct, we all go extinct sooner or later for various reasons. There's some sort of God delusion with socialists where they just can't grasp the reality of life. It's why they've always been hell bent on atheism, they need to destroy God so they can take it's place. Is that what you'll say to future generations when they ask you why you chose not to address climate change? "Well extinction was bound to happen sooner or later". Why not just murder someone and tell their mother "Well they were going to die EVENTUALLY!". Your being pedantic the two are not even remotely the same are they, I mean as a leftist I bet your for abortion right, I don't go round saying because your for abortion why don't you just kill your granny!. Lets say I'll go along with your assumption on climate change and it's a mega bad deal we're going to get? What's your solution, I mean what do we have to do according to the science you keep going on about to stop it? This isn't going to get an answer is it. Lefties never really get past the 'raising awareness' stage of much. They are good with their chants, protests and signs but not so much with the policy if you happen to agree with them. Why is the term ‘leftie’ always bandied about as a derogatory term, as though things like fairness and equality are bad things? I think that’s all a very cliched view to be honest - there are plenty of solutions to plenty of problems. It's the language of the extreme far right knuckle draggers...Some cunts just want to lynch motherfuckers and watch the world burn.." The language of the anti-human extreme left is to call humans a plague on the earth and complain its overpopulated. The only thing it's over populated with is vegans. | |||
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"It's not in my remit to decide which animals survive and which go extinct, we all go extinct sooner or later for various reasons. There's some sort of God delusion with socialists where they just can't grasp the reality of life. It's why they've always been hell bent on atheism, they need to destroy God so they can take it's place. Is that what you'll say to future generations when they ask you why you chose not to address climate change? "Well extinction was bound to happen sooner or later". Why not just murder someone and tell their mother "Well they were going to die EVENTUALLY!". Your being pedantic the two are not even remotely the same are they, I mean as a leftist I bet your for abortion right, I don't go round saying because your for abortion why don't you just kill your granny!. Lets say I'll go along with your assumption on climate change and it's a mega bad deal we're going to get? What's your solution, I mean what do we have to do according to the science you keep going on about to stop it? This isn't going to get an answer is it. Lefties never really get past the 'raising awareness' stage of much. They are good with their chants, protests and signs but not so much with the policy if you happen to agree with them. Why is the term ‘leftie’ always bandied about as a derogatory term, as though things like fairness and equality are bad things? I think that’s all a very cliched view to be honest - there are plenty of solutions to plenty of problems." Your version of fairness and equality are bad things (i.e. dragging everyone down to the same shitty standard). How about we hear some of the solutions since you have plenty... | |||
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"We are at this very moment in time in the middle to end phase of the 5th Ice age on Earth. Our aerosols or exhaust fumes didn't melt the last Four, and they won't melt this one. It will melt, absolutely no doubt, but it's through nature, not Lynx Africa or Chanel No5. No it's not.You just made all that up now didn't you..
Do you think I made that up Bobdoesntbang? Learn your history my friend, don't just throw random comments. "The first ice age started 2.4 million years ago you lemon.Homosapians didn't exist then so how the fuck could they melt the ice. | |||
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"It's not in my remit to decide which animals survive and which go extinct, we all go extinct sooner or later for various reasons. There's some sort of God delusion with socialists where they just can't grasp the reality of life. It's why they've always been hell bent on atheism, they need to destroy God so they can take it's place. Is that what you'll say to future generations when they ask you why you chose not to address climate change? "Well extinction was bound to happen sooner or later". Why not just murder someone and tell their mother "Well they were going to die EVENTUALLY!". Your being pedantic the two are not even remotely the same are they, I mean as a leftist I bet your for abortion right, I don't go round saying because your for abortion why don't you just kill your granny!. Lets say I'll go along with your assumption on climate change and it's a mega bad deal we're going to get? What's your solution, I mean what do we have to do according to the science you keep going on about to stop it? This isn't going to get an answer is it. Lefties never really get past the 'raising awareness' stage of much. They are good with their chants, protests and signs but not so much with the policy if you happen to agree with them. Why is the term ‘leftie’ always bandied about as a derogatory term, as though things like fairness and equality are bad things? I think that’s all a very cliched view to be honest - there are plenty of solutions to plenty of problems. It's the language of the extreme far right knuckle draggers...Some cunts just want to lynch motherfuckers and watch the world burn.. The language of the anti-human extreme left is to call humans a plague on the earth and complain its overpopulated. The only thing it's over populated with is vegans. " Stop with the lies .There is no problem with population.Infact fertility has fallen off a cliff..Strawman | |||
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" It's the language of the extreme far right knuckle draggers...Some cunts just want to lynch motherfuckers and watch the world burn.. The language of the anti-human extreme left is to call humans a plague on the earth and complain its overpopulated. The only thing it's over populated with is vegans. Stop with the lies .There is no problem with population.Infact fertility has fallen off a cliff..Strawman" Fertility, the natural capacity to produce offspring, is absolutely fine. Rich countries just choose to have less children. There's one solution for the left, help everyone get rich by embracing capitalism and then the population would plummet. | |||
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"We are at this very moment in time in the middle to end phase of the 5th Ice age on Earth. Our aerosols or exhaust fumes didn't melt the last Four, and they won't melt this one. It will melt, absolutely no doubt, but it's through nature, not Lynx Africa or Chanel No5. No it's not.You just made all that up now didn't you..
Do you think I made that up Bobdoesntbang? Learn your history my friend, don't just throw random comments.
The first ice age started 2.4 million years ago you lemon.Homosapians didn't exist then so how the fuck could they melt the ice. "Read my post again Lemon, or at least get the understanding of it. It's such hard work having to deal with eejits like you. FFS. | |||
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" If it continues all corals will go.Theyll basically dissolve.. And this is a disaster? Why ? About 25% of all marine life would die as a result. You could compare it with killing 25% of all land animals. Of course it also has a financial cost to fishing and food supplies.Which will be devastating to many economies. It's all interlinked.If you shit in a river upstream those down stream drink your shit. "I don't eat fish. There are films galore on coral from Jacques Cousteau to Richard Attenborough.. Preserved forever.. | |||
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"We are at this very moment in time in the middle to end phase of the 5th Ice age on Earth. Our aerosols or exhaust fumes didn't melt the last Four, and they won't melt this one. It will melt, absolutely no doubt, but it's through nature, not Lynx Africa or Chanel No5. No it's not.You just made all that up now didn't you..
Do you think I made that up Bobdoesntbang? Learn your history my friend, don't just throw random comments.
The first ice age started 2.4 million years ago you lemon.Homosapians didn't exist then so how the fuck could they melt the ice.
Read my post again Lemon, or at least get the understanding of it. It's such hard work having to deal with eejits like you. FFS. "Lets stop with the personal insults and stick to caricatures and cliches please | |||
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" It's the language of the extreme far right knuckle draggers...Some cunts just want to lynch motherfuckers and watch the world burn.. The language of the anti-human extreme left is to call humans a plague on the earth and complain its overpopulated. The only thing it's over populated with is vegans. Stop with the lies .There is no problem with population.Infact fertility has fallen off a cliff..Strawman Fertility, the natural capacity to produce offspring, is absolutely fine. Rich countries just choose to have less children. There's one solution for the left, help everyone get rich by embracing capitalism and then the population would plummet. " Wrong again. Research in the Lancet shows that 91 of 195 nations now have fertility rates below replacement level . Global fertility rate has halved since 1950.In 2018 worldwide total fertility rate is 2.4 births per woman, down from around five in the 1960s. Just sayin... | |||
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" If it continues all corals will go.Theyll basically dissolve.. And this is a disaster? Why ? About 25% of all marine life would die as a result. You could compare it with killing 25% of all land animals. Of course it also has a financial cost to fishing and food supplies.Which will be devastating to many economies. It's all interlinked.If you shit in a river upstream those down stream drink your shit.
I don't eat fish.
There are films galore on coral from Jacques Cousteau to Richard Attenborough..
Preserved forever..
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" It's the language of the extreme far right knuckle draggers...Some cunts just want to lynch motherfuckers and watch the world burn.. The language of the anti-human extreme left is to call humans a plague on the earth and complain its overpopulated. The only thing it's over populated with is vegans. Stop with the lies .There is no problem with population.Infact fertility has fallen off a cliff..Strawman Fertility, the natural capacity to produce offspring, is absolutely fine. Rich countries just choose to have less children. There's one solution for the left, help everyone get rich by embracing capitalism and then the population would plummet. Wrong again. Research in the Lancet shows that 91 of 195 nations now have fertility rates below replacement level . Global fertility rate has halved since 1950.In 2018 worldwide total fertility rate is 2.4 births per woman, down from around five in the 1960s. Just sayin... " Honey that's birth rate. Fertility means that if daddy puts his rocket in mummys nest, the explosion can make a baby. The vast majority of women are perfectly capable of having many babies, visit Blackpool, but most choose not to. | |||
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"Sorry I'm banned from responding to any of your comments by order of the management ...Same reason you can't respond to mine .. .This post wasn't directed to anyone in particular .. ". There's no ban, the lady just asked us to behave and stop the name calling, I'm quite capable of that!. | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS??" They want you to go vegan. You're supposed to arrive at that conclusion yourself so it doesn't feel like brainwashing. | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS??" Well, assuming a big part of the problem is the amount of CO2 emissions, I’m guessing a big part of the solution is a reduction in CO2 emissions. Remember when there was all the stuff about the hole in the ozone layer? A big part of that problem was the amount of CFCs. There was a crackpot theory that reducing the use of CFCs would help reverse the damage. Which is precisely what is now happening. This notion that there are no solutions to problems is nonsense. | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS?? They want you to go vegan. You're supposed to arrive at that conclusion yourself so it doesn't feel like brainwashing. " Who is they .Communists or Marxist . | |||
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"I'm beginning to think there is no solution and the good lord just wants us all to live in fear forever while he reaps our taxes "What are some if the worst green taxes you have to pay? | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS?? Well, assuming a big part of the problem is the amount of CO2 emissions, I’m guessing a big part of the solution is a reduction in CO2 emissions. Remember when there was all the stuff about the hole in the ozone layer? A big part of that problem was the amount of CFCs. There was a crackpot theory that reducing the use of CFCs would help reverse the damage. Which is precisely what is now happening. This notion that there are no solutions to problems is nonsense." The ozone has recovered but unfortunately they all think that was a liberal Marxist tree hugging cunts trick to ban CFCs.. I miss CFCs. .. | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS?? They want you to go vegan. You're supposed to arrive at that conclusion yourself so it doesn't feel like brainwashing. " . It's like pulling teeth with these lefties .
1 I like bacon(it's the greatest thing ever invented)
2 I like my car and drive 30,000 miles a year.
3 I fly, alot, for work and pleasure.
4 I don't want to live with six old charity shop jumpers on living like beatnik.
5 I've already booked a 3 week cruise for next year.
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"No ....if the population...cars ..heating .etc etc keep growing then there has to be change ....caused by people not climate ..if the sea rises by a metre in 100 years ...i could not give a shit" Youll be dead in 100 years you'll be fine . | |||
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"You seem concerned about poisoning the ocean which is start. So climate change means more carbon in the atmosphere which is absorbed by the ocean which makes the ocean acidic.Ocean acidification is a greater threat to the oceans ecosystem than plastic and poisons dumped in it. If it continues all corals will go.Theyll basically dissolve.." But the sea- and sea-grass suck the carbon out of the water and thrive. On one side of australia the sea grass is growing at a magnificent rate which is benefiting sea turtles enormously, and on the other the sea coral is struggling. Off the coast of africa they can not recall seeing sea forrest so vibrant ever. They are full of octopus, and fish and small sharks now, and with protection for otters the otters are thriving. If we lived a long time ago, and the sea grass/ was vanishing as obviously it must have, we would have been in a panic to get it back too. But sea coral came to the rescue. | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS?? Well, assuming a big part of the problem is the amount of CO2 emissions, I’m guessing a big part of the solution is a reduction in CO2 emissions. Remember when there was all the stuff about the hole in the ozone layer? A big part of that problem was the amount of CFCs. There was a crackpot theory that reducing the use of CFCs would help reverse the damage. Which is precisely what is now happening. This notion that there are no solutions to problems is nonsense." . Could I have specifics please, how much c02 reduction do we need to avoid this, time scale, what your plan for alternative energys are, how much is it going to cost and lastly how do you plan on stopping the carbon cycle?. | |||
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"You seem concerned about poisoning the ocean which is start. So climate change means more carbon in the atmosphere which is absorbed by the ocean which makes the ocean acidic.Ocean acidification is a greater threat to the oceans ecosystem than plastic and poisons dumped in it. If it continues all corals will go.Theyll basically dissolve.. But the sea- and sea-grass suck the carbon out of the water and thrive. On one side of australia the sea grass is growing at a magnificent rate which is benefiting sea turtles enormously, and on the other the sea coral is struggling. Off the coast of africa they can not recall seeing sea forrest so vibrant ever. They are full of octopus, and fish and small sharks now, and with protection for otters the otters are thriving. If we lived a long time ago, and the sea grass/ was vanishing as obviously it must have, we would have been in a panic to get it back too. But sea coral came to the rescue. " Your right the carbon is also greening the planet.However the oceans have been holding off climate change by absorbing all the excess carbon but if it's not by absorbed by plants its dissolved into the ocean creating acidification. More trees would help prevent ocean acidification but the rapid deforestation of the earth is adding to the problem. | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS?? They want you to go vegan. You're supposed to arrive at that conclusion yourself so it doesn't feel like brainwashing. . It's like pulling teeth with these lefties .
1 I like bacon(it's the greatest thing ever invented)
2 I like my car and drive 30,000 miles a year.
3 I fly, alot, for work and pleasure.
4 I don't want to live with six old charity shop jumpers on living like beatnik.
5 I've already booked a 3 week cruise for next year.
6 on a scale of things in my life that matter coral comes last (I know, I'm the antichrist) "I think electric planes are quite exciting actually. Yes i know they aren't zero pollution, but you basically can't live in slough if you have any respect for your lungs so I'd believe in man-bear-pig for that reason alone. I'll never reduce my meat intake though, not for all the pussy in Amsterdam. | |||
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"it took out the word for unwanted plants in a garden, or a very weak type of person from the post above sea.." Weed ? | |||
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS?? They want you to go vegan. You're supposed to arrive at that conclusion yourself so it doesn't feel like brainwashing. . It's like pulling teeth with these lefties .
1 I like bacon(it's the greatest thing ever invented)
2 I like my car and drive 30,000 miles a year.
3 I fly, alot, for work and pleasure.
4 I don't want to live with six old charity shop jumpers on living like beatnik.
5 I've already booked a 3 week cruise for next year.
6 on a scale of things in my life that matter coral comes last (I know, I'm the antichrist)
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"TELL US ALL WHAT THE SOLUTION IS?? Well, assuming a big part of the problem is the amount of CO2 emissions, I’m guessing a big part of the solution is a reduction in CO2 emissions. Remember when there was all the stuff about the hole in the ozone layer? A big part of that problem was the amount of CFCs. There was a crackpot theory that reducing the use of CFCs would help reverse the damage. Which is precisely what is now happening. This notion that there are no solutions to problems is nonsense.. Could I have specifics please, how much c02 reduction do we need to avoid this, time scale, what your plan for alternative energys are, how much is it going to cost and lastly how do you plan on stopping the carbon cycle?." I’m not sure what your point is. I’m not claiming to be enough of an expert to know stuff like that. But presumably amongst all the scientific data a lot of that will be known, or at least reasonably estimated. It’s the equivalent of me telling you that you would probably die if you jumped off a tall building, and you asking for specifics about your rate of acceleration as you fell, your terminal velocity, and the energy created by your impact with ground. You don’t need to know those things to realise that not jumping is probably a good idea. I disagree with the notion that that unless we know that data exactly, then it’s a waste of time to do anything. | |||
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" Remember when there was all the stuff about the hole in the ozone layer? A big part of that problem was the amount of CFCs. There was a crackpot theory that reducing the use of CFCs would help reverse the damage. Which is precisely what is now happening. " Have you considered that the so called hole in the ozone layer has been expanding and contracting for millions of years... | |||
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" Remember when there was all the stuff about the hole in the ozone layer? A big part of that problem was the amount of CFCs. There was a crackpot theory that reducing the use of CFCs would help reverse the damage. Which is precisely what is now happening. Have you considered that the so called hole in the ozone layer has been expanding and contracting for millions of years..." Are you disagreeing with the scientific consensus that CFCs were a major factor? | |||
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" Remember when there was all the stuff about the hole in the ozone layer? A big part of that problem was the amount of CFCs. There was a crackpot theory that reducing the use of CFCs would help reverse the damage. Which is precisely what is now happening. Have you considered that the so called hole in the ozone layer has been expanding and contracting for millions of years..." Did you read that in a scientific paper. So what your saying is the by banning CFCs this had no effect on the ozone layer .?? You do realise that it's a scientific fact that CFCs destroy ozone particles. CFCs are anthropogenic.Which means they don't occur naturally they are man made.. | |||
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"What actually is it about climate change that makes people not believe it or think it’s some sort of hoax, despite the overwhelming consensus of peer reviewed science? Do you also not believe that cancer kills people, or that gravity is a hoax? I hear the Earth is flat too. .
It's not the problem that's the problem, it's the solution!.
Good luck with that
Exactly, I'd rather lose a few third world countries than turn vegan "Really??? | |||
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" Are you disagreeing with the scientific consensus that CFCs were a major factor?" 100% I disagree | |||
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"There is no solution, it's as simple as that. It's called evolution. As I previously said, there have been 4 Ice age melts on Earth, we are in the 5th Ice Age at this very moment, the 4 others melted without human interference and what ever you all think about saving the Earth this one will melt aswell. If you want to believe buying electric cars, or non use of aersols, or anything else will stop the melt then good for you. " So the overwhelming scientific consensus is wrong, and you know better? Is that what you would have is believe? | |||
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" Are you disagreeing with the scientific consensus that CFCs were a major factor? 100% I disagree " Is the moon made of cheese...Or the earth flat... just checking to find out what level of don't give a fuck about facts we are at | |||
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"Climate change has been happening thought out earths history Not in the space of 30 years it hasn't. And it's accelerating to the point of no return. " The last ice-age ended aduptly | |||
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